Let the race for 2012 begin...

[The Unknown Caller]

Its rather difficult to take it seriously when someone brags about how they think an anti-Obama ad will be effective but they don't even believe enough in the alternative to bother voting for them.  Not effective enough to convince a Tea Partier who admits that he will never admit it when he's disproven... so you have to imagine that's not gonna be great on the undecided voter.

[Big Girls Are Best]

Its rather difficult to take it seriously when someone brags about...

Aren't you the one who has been bragging about the recall efforts in Wisconsin?  So what are your thoughts about that (desperate) MoveOn e-mail?  I especially enjoyed this line: "But if Walker survives the recall, we'll have wasted a year of effort."

[The Unknown Caller]

Oh look, a rapid change of subject, you'll have to imagine my Complete shock.

[Big Girls Are Best]

Oh look, a rapid change of subject, you'll have to imagine my Complete shock.

Um, not exactly sure how you can claim this is a "rapid change of subject" since it directly refers to the MoveOn e-mail I posted…

Curious...

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From: Daniel Mintz, MoveOn.org Political Action moveon-help@list.moveon.org
Date: Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Subject: DNC underfunding the Walker recall?

Dear MoveOn member,

BREAKING NEWS FROM WISCONSIN: The Democratic National Committee is refusing requests to fund the massive get out the vote effort planned in Wisconsin to recall Scott Walker.

Wisconsin is ground zero for Democrats this summer—and there are only three weeks before Election Day—which is why this breaking news just doesn’t make sense. Scott Walker and his right-wing allies have spent millions, and they’ll spend millions more in the next few weeks. But Walker’s poll numbers won’t budge and if the Wisconsin Democrats can run the massive field program they have planned, we can win this. Obama for America organizers are hard at work in the state, but the DNC’s lack of support has left a huge hole in the get out the vote budget. So MoveOn members need to step up. Can you help recall Walker?

Chip in $5 to the Wisconsin Democrats on ActBlue to beat Scott Walker.Wisconsin citizens, with the support of activists from all around the country, have accomplished more than anyone thought possible. They’ve inspired all of us, and put fear into the hearts of other governors who wanted to attack the 99%. But if Walker survives the recall, we’ll have wasted a year of effort.

With only a few weeks left, the DNC is feeling the heat and says they may provide more help, but we can’t wait for them. We have to do it ourselves.Can you chip in $5 today via ActBlue to make sure that Scott Walker is finally recalled from office?

Thanks for all you do.

[Big Girls Are Best]

Here is a fun fact from President Obama's literary agency, Acton & Dystel, that remainded unchanged for 16 years (1991 - 2007) through three website updates, four different versions of his biography, and two years of his U.S. Senate career before finally being 'corrected' shortly after he announced his candidacy for the presidency...

[Big Girls Are Best]

From TUC's perspective, this must be viewed as a crushing endorsement...

We recommend Walker; his removal isn't justified (Milwaukee Wisconsin Journal Sentinel, May 19, 2012) 
Scott Walker's policies are controversial, but arguments over policies - no matter how sharp - aren't reason enough to end a governor's term.

No governor in recent memory has been so controversial. No governor in America is so polarizing. Everyone has an opinion about Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin.

Here's ours: We see no reason to remove Walker from office. We recommend him in the June 5 recall election.

Walker's rematch with Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett was prompted by one issue: Walker's tough stance with the state's public-employee unions. It's inconceivable that the recall election would be occurring absent that. And a disagreement over a single policy is simply not enough to justify a vote against the governor...

Even if you disagree with Walker's policies, does that justify cutting short his term as governor? And if so, where does such logic lead? To more recall elections? More turmoil?


So what's your prediction, TUC?  Will Governor Walker survive the recall?

[The Unknown Caller]

I'm calling it right now; the most entertaining part of this thread in the next year will be watching BGABs desperate attempts to discuss anything humanly possible Except the general election choice between Romney and Obama. Look! Wisconsin recalls! A rare favourable attitude poll! A tea party primary! A semi scandal involving someone vaguely Democratic!

Its been fun so far and will only get moreso as he ties himself in knots to avoid discussing Romney. XD

[Big Girls Are Best]

I'm calling it right now; the most entertaining part of this thread in the next year will be watching BGABs desperate attempts to discuss anything humanly possible Except the general election choice between Romney and Obama. Look! Wisconsin recalls! A rare favourable attitude poll! A tea party primary! A semi scandal involving someone vaguely Democratic!

I have no problems talking about Romney, and there will be plenty of time for that in the coming months.  But the immediate issue is the Wisconsin recall election on June 5th of which you have been declaring how important Wisconsin is for democrats.  However, after the latest round of major setbacks in the recall efforts (i.e., no more funding from the DNC; and endorsement of Walker from the largest, liberal paper in Wisconsin) you are doing everything possible to avoid this issue.

Given that Wisconsin is on the path to a budget surplus, and 23,000 jobs have been added, why is it again that Governor Walker should be recalled?

Walker's team expects $154.5 million surplus by 2013 (May 10, 2012)
Gov. Scott Walker's administration released improved budget projections Thursday that would leave the state with a $154.5 million surplus a year from now.  Coming less than four weeks before Walker's June 5 recall election, the projections take the state from a previously estimated $143 million budget deficit in its main account through June 2013 to the surplus.

[The Unknown Caller]

BGAB in a single image;

[Big Girls Are Best]

Given his complete unwillingness to respond to this issue, here is an image that perfectly summarizes TUC's hopes of the Wisconsin recall efforts…

[Big Girls Are Best]

Here's what ryanm said last July…

Obama brought in more money to his re-election campaign and the DNC this last quarter than he did the entire first half of 2007.  Furthermore, he has the support of the entire Democratic Party and a huge chunk of independents.

Meanwhile, the GOP is splintered and can't get the tea party faction and the party establishment to play nicely together.

Here's what the Washington Post wrote on Sunday…

Romney could best Obama in fundraising (May 21, 2012)
Here’s a scary thought for Democrats: It’s entirely possible that former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney and the Republican National Committee will outraise President Obama and the Democratic National Committee in the seven-month sprint to the general election.

In April, the first month in which Romney was untethered by concerns about the primary fight and in which he and the RNC linked up efforts, their combined haul was just north of $40 million — almost the exact amount the president and the DNC gathered in that time frame.

“It’s becoming very clear the president’s opponents are very intent on funding a candidate, regardless of how flawed he is, to win in November,” said Jonathan Mantz, who served as the finance director for then-Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s 2008 presidential bid. “So when you look at the April filing for Romney and then add his super-PAC fundraising to date, Obama’s campaign must maintain if not step up their fundraising pace”…

Add it all up — and throw in a pledge from the leading conservative super PAC to spend better than $200 million— and it becomes possible that Obama, the single greatest fundraiser in the history of American politics, might get outraised (and outspent) between now and Nov. 6.

[AliSPNfan]

It wasn't that long ago that Axelrod, hoping for a distraction from Obama's terrible economy, brought up Romney's dog...but then this happened   

http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/81/2012/04/18/110265_600.jpg 

http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/62/2012/04/18/110222_600.jpg   

[The Unknown Caller]

It wasn't that long ago that Axelrod, hoping for a distraction from Obama's terrible economy, brought up Romney's dog...but then this happened   

...One tweet was intended as a distraction?  The Obama Campaign is perfectly happy to talk about the economy, and to contrast Romney's record of running MA into the ground so that it became the 47th job creator in the nation during a time of relative boom with the President's record of preventing a second great depression. (Although Romney will of course have his Bain record of creating 100,000 jobs. Or was that 10,000 jobs? Or just 'thousands' of jobs. In fact it may have actually cost jobs. But never mind; the point is, jobs were involved in some way even if Mitt can't remember how)

If you seriously think that EITHER campaign (Or any actual voter) cared even remotely about either of the dog nontroversies, you need to get your head back into the real world.

[ryanm]

Here's what ryanm said last July…

Obama brought in more money to his re-election campaign and the DNC this last quarter than he did the entire first half of 2007.  Furthermore, he has the support of the entire Democratic Party and a huge chunk of independents.

Meanwhile, the GOP is splintered and can't get the tea party faction and the party establishment to play nicely together.

Here's what the Washington Post wrote on Sunday…

Romney could best Obama in fundraising (May 21, 2012)
Here’s a scary thought for Democrats: It’s entirely possible that former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney and the Republican National Committee will outraise President Obama and the Democratic National Committee in the seven-month sprint to the general election.

In April, the first month in which Romney was untethered by concerns about the primary fight and in which he and the RNC linked up efforts, their combined haul was just north of $40 million — almost the exact amount the president and the DNC gathered in that time frame.

“It’s becoming very clear the president’s opponents are very intent on funding a candidate, regardless of how flawed he is, to win in November,” said Jonathan Mantz, who served as the finance director for then-Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s 2008 presidential bid. “So when you look at the April filing for Romney and then add his super-PAC fundraising to date, Obama’s campaign must maintain if not step up their fundraising pace”…

Add it all up — and throw in a pledge from the leading conservative super PAC to spend better than $200 million— and it becomes possible that Obama, the single greatest fundraiser in the history of American politics, might get outraised (and outspent) between now and Nov. 6.

Thanks to SuperPAC's, a few millionaires can now outspend the millions who have donated to President Obama's re-election campaign.  The President's campaign will out-raise the Romney campaign, but the pro-Romney SuperPAC's may outspend the President's campaign.

[ryanm]

I'm calling it right now; the most entertaining part of this thread in the next year will be watching BGABs desperate attempts to discuss anything humanly possible Except the general election choice between Romney and Obama. Look! Wisconsin recalls! A rare favourable attitude poll! A tea party primary! A semi scandal involving someone vaguely Democratic!

I have no problems talking about Romney, and there will be plenty of time for that in the coming months.  But the immediate issue is the Wisconsin recall election on June 5th of which you have been declaring how important Wisconsin is for democrats.  However, after the latest round of major setbacks in the recall efforts (i.e., no more funding from the DNC; and endorsement of Walker from the largest, liberal paper in Wisconsin) you are doing everything possible to avoid this issue.

Given that Wisconsin is on the path to a budget surplus, and 23,000 jobs have been added, why is it again that Governor Walker should be recalled?

Walker's team expects $154.5 million surplus by 2013 (May 10, 2012)
Gov. Scott Walker's administration released improved budget projections Thursday that would leave the state with a $154.5 million surplus a year from now.  Coming less than four weeks before Walker's June 5 recall election, the projections take the state from a previously estimated $143 million budget deficit in its main account through June 2013 to the surplus.

As TD would say, "it's just a projection."  And although a surplus is nice, it's not a ton of good if WI's unemployment rate is still above 8%.