From The Sky Down : scenes not on the DVD

[u2edy]

Naysayers and all can watch the full director's cut at no extra cost at achtungbabyuberbonus.u2.com

[shorne]

Nope... need a code.

[u2edy]

People are complaining about having to purchase the director's cut if they've already bought the uber deluxe.  If they've bought the uber deluxe, they have a code and can watch the director's cut, in HD, from the site for no extra cost.

[soapit]

People are complaining about having to purchase the director's cut if they've already bought the uber deluxe.  If they've bought the uber deluxe, they have a code and can watch the director's cut, in HD, from the site for no extra cost.

so long as they have an internet capable tv

[The Unknown Caller]

People are complaining about having to purchase the director's cut if they've already bought the uber deluxe.  If they've bought the uber deluxe, they have a code and can watch the director's cut, in HD, from the site for no extra cost.

While you are right, it's worth noting that actually, the people complaining most loudly and consistently are those who never bought it in any form and never intended to, and thus aren't and never were losing anything.

[soapit]

People are complaining about having to purchase the director's cut if they've already bought the uber deluxe.  If they've bought the uber deluxe, they have a code and can watch the director's cut, in HD, from the site for no extra cost.

While you are right, it's worth noting that actually, the people complaining most loudly and consistently are those who never bought it in any form and never intended to, and thus aren't and never were losing anything.

yes the people who were most upset at the 'gouging' to begin with to the point of not purchasing any of them (like me) are obviously going to be the people most annoyed by any additional 'gouging' that comes up. it makes sense.

[bwm231163]

yes the people who were most upset at the 'gouging' to begin with to the point of not purchasing any of them (like me) are obviously going to be the people most annoyed by any additional 'gouging' that comes up. it makes sense.

But you haven't bought it, so how can you possibly complain about being gouged? It actually makes no sense whatsoever.

[soapit]

yes the people who were most upset at the 'gouging' to begin with to the point of not purchasing any of them (like me) are obviously going to be the people most annoyed by any additional 'gouging' that comes up. it makes sense.

But you haven't bought it, so how can you possibly complain about being gouged? It actually makes no sense whatsoever.

i'm not complaining about BEING gouged (of course). if i have complained it's relating to the fact that this band that been so important to me is engaging in such flagrant super/uber fan gouging (and especially relating to an anniversary release of a super important album to me personally).

so it does actually make perfect sense. whether or not you understand it is another question.

[singnomore]

yes the people who were most upset at the 'gouging' to begin with to the point of not purchasing any of them (like me) are obviously going to be the people most annoyed by any additional 'gouging' that comes up. it makes sense.

But you haven't bought it, so how can you possibly complain about being gouged? It actually makes no sense whatsoever.

i'm not complaining about BEING gouged (of course). if i have complained it's relating to the fact that this band that been so important to me is engaging in such flagrant super/uber fan gouging (and especially relating to an anniversary release of a super important album to me personally).

so it does actually make perfect sense. whether or not you understand it is another question.

I think bwm does understand what your saying but is simply trying to balance of the emotional impact your feeling with the physical gouging of the pocket?

[bwm231163]

i'm not complaining about BEING gouged (of course). if i have complained it's relating to the fact that this band that been so important to me is engaging in such flagrant super/uber fan gouging (and especially relating to an anniversary release of a super important album to me personally).

so it does actually make perfect sense. whether or not you understand it is another question.

So let me get this straight, I bought the Super Deluxe set (great set by the way, and worth the money to me). You are angry with the band for selling me a boxset I wanted to buy? In addition, even though I like the set and am happy with it, but you think I've been exploited in some way?

It seems absurd that you are so upset about something you didn't purchase. Also, it's rather condescending to justify the outrage by claiming you are defending fans like me. Believe it or not, we are able to make our own decisions about what U2 products we want to buy.

I have no problem with them releasing a standalone version of FTSD, especially as it is aimed at fans who did not buy the boxset but may want to own the documentary. I have no interest in buying the separate version myself (it's only a few minutes longer and the extra performances have been made available online). But I certainly don't object to them offering it as an option for other fans who want it.

[soapit]

i'm not complaining about BEING gouged (of course). if i have complained it's relating to the fact that this band that been so important to me is engaging in such flagrant super/uber fan gouging (and especially relating to an anniversary release of a super important album to me personally).

so it does actually make perfect sense. whether or not you understand it is another question.

So let me get this straight, I bought the Super Deluxe set (great set by the way, and worth the money to me). You are angry with the band for selling me a boxset I wanted to buy? In addition, even though I like the set and am happy with it, but you think I've been exploited in some way?

It seems absurd that you are so upset about something you didn't purchase. Also, it's rather condescending to justify the outrage by claiming you are defending fans like me. Believe it or not, we are able to make our own decisions about what U2 products we want to buy.

I have no problem with them releasing a standalone version of FTSD, especially as it is aimed at fans who did not buy the boxset but may want to own the documentary. I have no interest in buying the separate version myself (it's only a few minutes longer and the extra performances have been made available online). But I certainly don't object to them offering it as an option for other fans who want it.

ah so i was right you are not interested in closely reading/understanding what i have written.

i) i have never claimed i am defending fans like you. if i am condescending its because i see people who make things up about others as beneath me.
ii) you are free to think my opinion is absurd, though it might have something to do with the level of upset you have assigned to me from your imagination.
iii) yes you have been exploited. all boxset rereleases are exploitative by design. its not the problem we're discussing here though.

as it seems the rest of your post consists of "i'm happy with everything the band has done wrt this" and i think thats just great for you and everyone like you, i don't think there's much more i need to say. plus i'm not really convinced your understanding much of this anyway.

[soapit]

yes the people who were most upset at the 'gouging' to begin with to the point of not purchasing any of them (like me) are obviously going to be the people most annoyed by any additional 'gouging' that comes up. it makes sense.

But you haven't bought it, so how can you possibly complain about being gouged? It actually makes no sense whatsoever.

i'm not complaining about BEING gouged (of course). if i have complained it's relating to the fact that this band that been so important to me is engaging in such flagrant super/uber fan gouging (and especially relating to an anniversary release of a super important album to me personally).

so it does actually make perfect sense. whether or not you understand it is another question.

I think bwm does understand what your saying but is simply trying to balance of the emotional impact your feeling with the physical gouging of the pocket?

no, he said it didnt make any sense. so i explained how it did. thats all. the confusion might have come from him imagining things i have wrote which i did not (in this case that i was being gouged). he seems to do this a bit. he doesnt seem to read others posts very carefully.

to address your point...its all based on some kind of emotion isnt it? we're not talking about physical ie. literal gouging here.

[shorne]

In defense of soapit, independant of whether or not he/she has a point, you don't have to have paid for something to have an opinion as to whether or not the price or something, or the way in which something is marketed, is effectively gouging someone.  It's just an opnion and in that sense, makes sense, but one is not bound to agree with the opinion.

[bwm231163]

“yes the people who were most upset at the 'gouging' to begin with to the point of not purchasing any of them (like me) are obviously going to be the people most annoyed by any additional 'gouging' that comes up.”

“This band that been so important to me is engaging in such flagrant super/uber fan gouging.”

ah so i was right you are not interested in closely reading/understanding what i have written.

i) i have never claimed i am defending fans like you. if i am condescending its because i see people who make things up about others as beneath me.
ii) you are free to think my opinion is absurd, though it might have something to do with the level of upset you have assigned to me from your imagination.
iii) yes you have been exploited. all boxset rereleases are exploitative by design. its not the problem we're discussing here though.

plus i'm not really convinced your understanding much of this anyway.

So you are “upset” and “annoyed” that U2 are engaging in “gouging” of fans who buy the AB boxset. You have not bought the boxset. You are “upset” and annoyed” on behalf of the fans who have. Those are clearly stated opinions from your first two posts.

Then you contradict them in you third post where you state that you are not really that upset about the boxset (I imagined that part) and you are not trying to defend the fans who bought it (I made that up apparently).

So I don’t think it is a lack of understanding on my part, but rather you being inconsistent in your stated views. Ultimately, you did not buy the set, so why would you be “upset” and “annoyed” about it. I did buy it and like it and don’t feel “gouged” or “exploited”. In fact, I really enjoy it.

[soapit]

“yes the people who were most upset at the 'gouging' to begin with to the point of not purchasing any of them (like me) are obviously going to be the people most annoyed by any additional 'gouging' that comes up.”

“This band that been so important to me is engaging in such flagrant super/uber fan gouging.”

ah so i was right you are not interested in closely reading/understanding what i have written.

i) i have never claimed i am defending fans like you. if i am condescending its because i see people who make things up about others as beneath me.
ii) you are free to think my opinion is absurd, though it might have something to do with the level of upset you have assigned to me from your imagination.
iii) yes you have been exploited. all boxset rereleases are exploitative by design. its not the problem we're discussing here though.

plus i'm not really convinced your understanding much of this anyway.

So you are “upset” and “annoyed” that U2 are engaging in “gouging” of fans who buy the AB boxset. You have not bought the boxset. You are “upset” and annoyed” on behalf of the fans who have. Those are clearly stated opinions from your first two posts.

Then you contradict them in you third post where you state that you are not really that upset about the boxset (I imagined that part) and you are not trying to defend the fans who bought it (I made that up apparently).

So I don’t think it is a lack of understanding on my part, but rather you being inconsistent in your stated views. Ultimately, you did not buy the set, so why would you be “upset” and “annoyed” about it. I did buy it and like it and don’t feel “gouged” or “exploited”. In fact, I really enjoy it.

why do you feel the need to paraphrase me? my opinion is there in black and white yet you translate this into something else you seem to think i really meant.

my only clearly stated opinions are the unmodified ones in my posts. pulling single words from someones post and strategically placing them in a sentence proves nothing except you can't rely on my existing sentences to meet the image you are creating of me. those sentences you created for me really do contradict that third post of mine but please stop embellishing my words. 

theres no point adding more when you seem to be struggling with the existing material but i'll give you one last hint to help you....

....can you imagine a world where someone can be annoyed and upset about what they perceive as a band engaging in flagrant price gouging for a box set (and as a side effect not buying this box set), but isnt really that upset at all (its just a band) and they are more than happy for people who dont feel the same way to buy and enjoy the set?