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Re: Is Bono the greatest rock frontman ever?
« Reply #60 on: April 20, 2012, 01:07:14 PM »
I've never really rated Michael Stipe as a frontman.  Sure, he's got a distinctive voice, but I don't think he's all that charismatic.


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Re: Is Bono the greatest rock frontman ever?
« Reply #61 on: April 20, 2012, 01:12:30 PM »
Hutchence another good choice from the younger generations.


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Re: Is Bono the greatest rock frontman ever?
« Reply #62 on: April 20, 2012, 01:13:51 PM »
And yes, everyone really is following Elvis in this department.

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Re: Is Bono the greatest rock frontman ever?
« Reply #63 on: April 20, 2012, 01:16:31 PM »
Liam Gallagher ? That's, uh, an interesting choice.

I think it's hard to rank this because so many people automatically vote for the 60's greats : Jagger, Plant, Daltrey (has he been named yet in this thread?), Morrison and the 70's heir Mercury*. Then the next generation came with Bono/Stipe etc as for 90's and onwards...I guess Vedder is on top ?

*he's made solo albums too but they say Springsteen is up there with the best frontmen live.

I don't consider Springsteen to be a frontman.  The E Street Band, for all of its charm, is just one of his backing bands. He writes, arranges, and produces the material and they play his stuff.
Basically, you cannot count anyone who use their name followed by "and the [insert band name here]   as a front man.
Bruce is, and always has been, at least since the early '70's, a solo artist.

Why not ? Bowie had a backing band, as does Prince - both named in this thread. What about James Brown ?

To me Bruce is too intertwined with E Street band not to be considered their frontman. And while Born to Run is from seventies his real breakthrough was Born in the USA...in the 80's. He was able to go to stadiums only afterwards.

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Re: Is Bono the greatest rock frontman ever?
« Reply #64 on: April 20, 2012, 01:21:19 PM »
Liam Gallagher ? That's, uh, an interesting choice.

I think it's hard to rank this because so many people automatically vote for the 60's greats : Jagger, Plant, Daltrey (has he been named yet in this thread?), Morrison and the 70's heir Mercury*. Then the next generation came with Bono/Stipe etc as for 90's and onwards...I guess Vedder is on top ?

*he's made solo albums too but they say Springsteen is up there with the best frontmen live.

I don't consider Springsteen to be a frontman.  The E Street Band, for all of its charm, is just one of his backing bands. He writes, arranges, and produces the material and they play his stuff.
Basically, you cannot count anyone who use their name followed by "and the [insert band name here]   as a front man.
Bruce is, and always has been, at least since the early '70's, a solo artist.

Why not ? Bowie had a backing band, as does Prince - both named in this thread. What about James Brown ?

To me Bruce is too intertwined with E Street band not to be considered their frontman. And while Born to Run is from seventies his real breakthrough was Born in the USA...in the 80's. He was able to go to stadiums only afterwards.

What's that got to do with this thread?

And the notion that Bruce Springsteen is the E Street Band's 'frontman' is laughable.  They're his sometime backing band of hired musicians.

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Re: Is Bono the greatest rock frontman ever?
« Reply #65 on: April 20, 2012, 01:27:39 PM »
dont know how u can measure something like that . but most of those mentioned above would deserve it for various reasons ..cant really pick one though

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Re: Is Bono the greatest rock frontman ever?
« Reply #66 on: April 20, 2012, 01:28:55 PM »
Liam Gallagher ? That's, uh, an interesting choice.

I think it's hard to rank this because so many people automatically vote for the 60's greats : Jagger, Plant, Daltrey (has he been named yet in this thread?), Morrison and the 70's heir Mercury*. Then the next generation came with Bono/Stipe etc as for 90's and onwards...I guess Vedder is on top ?

*he's made solo albums too but they say Springsteen is up there with the best frontmen live.

I don't consider Springsteen to be a frontman.  The E Street Band, for all of its charm, is just one of his backing bands. He writes, arranges, and produces the material and they play his stuff.
Basically, you cannot count anyone who use their name followed by "and the [insert band name here]   as a front man.
Bruce is, and always has been, at least since the early '70's, a solo artist.

Why not ? Bowie had a backing band, as does Prince - both named in this thread. What about James Brown ?

To me Bruce is too intertwined with E Street band not to be considered their frontman. And while Born to Run is from seventies his real breakthrough was Born in the USA...in the 80's. He was able to go to stadiums only afterwards.

What's that got to do with this thread?

And the notion that Bruce Springsteen is the E Street Band's 'frontman' is laughable.  They're his sometime backing band of hired musicians.

Yep. That's all they are. They're good backing musicians, but Bruce rules the roost. Always.

A frontman typically, traditionally at least, is one of a group or band, who steps out in "front" and leads them. This usually means the singer because he's in the front-center position(traditionally). We are perhaps being technical here but there is a good distinction. Frontmen typically sing and lead a group or band who work together creatively as a unit.
Now you can have groups with frontmen who write the vast majority of the material for them(Sting in The Police).  But you can't have a front man who writes the vast majority of the material and leads a group of musicians who serves as his backing musicians(Prince and NPG or Revolution,etc).

They're solo artists who are like band directors that can use this band or that band depending on what they want to do.

Bono is a member of U2. Bruce is Bruce and leads the E Street band. He's not a member of it. It is not a group. It is his backing band(except when it's not :D).
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Re: Is Bono the greatest rock frontman ever?
« Reply #67 on: April 20, 2012, 01:58:39 PM »
If Bowie/Prince can apply, so can Bruce.

They may not be billed on albums, but they are live. It's always "Bruce AND the E Street band." And they've been playing together since the seventies, no one was hired.

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Re: Is Bono the greatest rock frontman ever?
« Reply #68 on: April 20, 2012, 02:15:00 PM »
If Bowie/Prince can apply, so can Bruce.

Bowie and Prince don't apply, unless you're referring to Tin Machine. :D

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They may not be billed on albums, but they are live. It's always "Bruce AND the E Street band." And they've been playing together since the seventies, no one was hired.

It's not 'always' Bruce & The E Street Band, and all the members of that backing band - in its different composition over the years -  are hired musicians on salary.  Prince has also toured under the monikers: Prince & The Revolution and Prince & The New Power Generation.  It doesn't mean Prince is those bands' 'frontman', anymore than Bruce is the E Street Band's 'frontman'.  It means Prince and Bruce are the BOSS.
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Re: Is Bono the greatest rock frontman ever?
« Reply #69 on: April 20, 2012, 03:00:07 PM »


If Bowie/Prince can apply, so can Bruce.

They may not be billed on albums, but they are live. It's always "Bruce AND the E Street band." And they've been playing together since the seventies, no one was hired.

Bowie and Prince can't be applied. They're not frontmen. They're solo artists with backing bands, not a lead singer of a group. Big distinction.

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Re: Is Bono the greatest rock frontman ever?
« Reply #70 on: April 20, 2012, 03:03:49 PM »


If Bowie/Prince can apply, so can Bruce.

They may not be billed on albums, but they are live. It's always "Bruce AND the E Street band." And they've been playing together since the seventies, no one was hired.

Bowie and Prince can't be applied. They're not frontmen. They're solo artists with backing bands, not a lead singer of a group. Big distinction.

Either way they're still frontmen. There is no distinction. As Adam Calyton said about Boon, 'I'm only famous because I know him'
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Re: Is Bono the greatest rock frontman ever?
« Reply #71 on: April 20, 2012, 03:12:21 PM »


If Bowie/Prince can apply, so can Bruce.

They may not be billed on albums, but they are live. It's always "Bruce AND the E Street band." And they've been playing together since the seventies, no one was hired.

Bowie and Prince can't be applied. They're not frontmen. They're solo artists with backing bands, not a lead singer of a group. Big distinction.

Either way they're still frontmen. There is no distinction. As Adam Calyton said about Boon, 'I'm only famous because I know him'

No, they're not. What are they fronting? What group are they a part of?

They're solo artists. You don't front what isn't there. You front a group.

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Re: Is Bono the greatest rock frontman ever?
« Reply #72 on: April 20, 2012, 03:19:24 PM »


If Bowie/Prince can apply, so can Bruce.

They may not be billed on albums, but they are live. It's always "Bruce AND the E Street band." And they've been playing together since the seventies, no one was hired.

Bowie and Prince can't be applied. They're not frontmen. They're solo artists with backing bands, not a lead singer of a group. Big distinction.

Either way they're still frontmen. There is no distinction. As Adam Calyton said about Boon, 'I'm only famous because I know him'

No, they're not. What are they fronting? What group are they a part of?

They're solo artists. You don't front what isn't there. You front a group.

Alright, calm down. As entertainers the frontmen are the focus of the audiences attention - wether you're Bowie, Prince or the Boss. Or Chris Martin. Larry maybe a part of U2 but he doesn't bring much to the live experience. All eyes are on Boon and the bulge in his tight leather trousers.

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Re: Is Bono the greatest rock frontman ever?
« Reply #73 on: April 20, 2012, 04:08:26 PM »


If Bowie/Prince can apply, so can Bruce.

They may not be billed on albums, but they are live. It's always "Bruce AND the E Street band." And they've been playing together since the seventies, no one was hired.

Bowie and Prince can't be applied. They're not frontmen. They're solo artists with backing bands, not a lead singer of a group. Big distinction.

Either way they're still frontmen. There is no distinction. As Adam Calyton said about Boon, 'I'm only famous because I know him'

No, they're not. What are they fronting? What group are they a part of?

They're solo artists. You don't front what isn't there. You front a group.

Alright, calm down. As entertainers the frontmen are the focus of the audiences attention - wether you're Bowie, Prince or the Boss. Or Chris Martin. Larry maybe a part of U2 but he doesn't bring much to the live experience. All eyes are on Boon and the bulge in his tight leather trousers.

I don't know what you're talking about. At my first and only U2 concert last May, I was in The Pit and Larry gave me a head nod. Yes, he was looking right at me! I'm sure of it! And as a drummer who has had his fair share of time drumming along to many U2 tracks, I can honestly say that was one of the best parts of that day.

...and, of course, Edge was always awesome, as usual. It's not always about Bono.

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Re: Is Bono the greatest rock frontman ever?
« Reply #74 on: April 20, 2012, 04:25:06 PM »


If Bowie/Prince can apply, so can Bruce.

They may not be billed on albums, but they are live. It's always "Bruce AND the E Street band." And they've been playing together since the seventies, no one was hired.

Bowie and Prince can't be applied. They're not frontmen. They're solo artists with backing bands, not a lead singer of a group. Big distinction.

Either way they're still frontmen. There is no distinction. As Adam Calyton said about Boon, 'I'm only famous because I know him'

No, they're not. What are they fronting? What group are they a part of?

They're solo artists. You don't front what isn't there. You front a group.

Alright, calm down. As entertainers the frontmen are the focus of the audiences attention - wether you're Bowie, Prince or the Boss. Or Chris Martin. Larry maybe a part of U2 but he doesn't bring much to the live experience. All eyes are on Boon and the bulge in his tight leather trousers.

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