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Re: Is There Still Any Point In U2 Making A New Album?
« Reply #120 on: May 03, 2012, 02:27:36 PM »
I like CoL, but I'd have a lot more respect for it if  "Brian Eno/Harold Budd" didn't exist.

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Re: Is There Still Any Point In U2 Making A New Album?
« Reply #121 on: May 03, 2012, 03:22:28 PM »
CoL isn't a simple rehash of Budds and Lenos albums together.

They can coexist. Besides, Leno had co writing credits on the song so of course it is going to evoke some of their own works.

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Re: Is There Still Any Point In U2 Making A New Album?
« Reply #122 on: May 03, 2012, 04:30:53 PM »
I like CoL, but I'd have a lot more respect for it if  "Brian Eno/Harold Budd" didn't exist.

Agreed. The sample features more heavily than i thought - CoL is almost like a rock version of it. Thanks for posting, Miryclay!

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Re: Is There Still Any Point In U2 Making A New Album?
« Reply #123 on: May 03, 2012, 09:48:33 PM »
What I am saying is that if Eno's "new" idea is the sample an "old" song he worked on before, then it really isn't something to write about.

U2 still have a point in making a new album if they decide to move out of their comfort zone and try something different by working with different and younger producers who will inject new life to the band's music.

Otherwise, there is no point in making a new album.

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« Reply #124 on: May 04, 2012, 01:49:10 PM »
Agreed. I think Eno and Lanois still have potential, but imo it wasn't realised fully on NLOTH (except for a few songs like MoS). Working with new, younger producers is a great idea, so i'm glad they're recording with Danger Mouse and Redone.

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Re: Is There Still Any Point In U2 Making A New Album?
« Reply #125 on: May 04, 2012, 02:06:51 PM »
Agreed. I think Eno and Lanois still have potential, but imo it wasn't realised fully on NLOTH (except for a few songs like MoS). Working with new, younger producers is a great idea, so i'm glad they're recording with Danger Mouse and Redone.

We all agree!

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Re: Is There Still Any Point In U2 Making A New Album?
« Reply #126 on: May 04, 2012, 02:19:53 PM »
Nice when that finally happens! :)

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« Reply #127 on: May 04, 2012, 02:42:14 PM »
Nice when that finally happens! :)

Yeah well, unless you're The Edge and I'm Bono, it's not going to make much difference. :p

I'm only Adam's bother, Haymish.

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Re: Is There Still Any Point In U2 Making A New Album?
« Reply #128 on: May 04, 2012, 02:45:12 PM »
Good point, it's disagreements like this that'll postpone the album until 2013.
Maybe you can talk some sense into them, Haymish.

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Re: Is There Still Any Point In U2 Making A New Album?
« Reply #129 on: May 04, 2012, 02:50:27 PM »
Good point, it's disagreements like this that'll postpone the album until 2013.
Maybe you can talk some sense into them, Haymish.

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Re: Is There Still Any Point In U2 Making A New Album?
« Reply #130 on: May 04, 2012, 03:11:12 PM »
No really - i bet if they could settle on a 'direction' right now, we'd get a 2012 album... if the larry rumours are true right now, i bet that disagreement is what delays it.

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Re: Is There Still Any Point In U2 Making A New Album?
« Reply #131 on: May 04, 2012, 05:13:05 PM »
Agreed. I think Eno and Lanois still have potential, but imo it wasn't realised fully on NLOTH (except for a few songs like MoS). Working with new, younger producers is a great idea, so i'm glad they're recording with Danger Mouse and Redone.

But I think that was the band's fault.   They wanted something more radio-friendly that what NLOTH was originally going to be.   So you can't pin NLOTH's shortcomings solely or even mostly on the producers.   In which case I highly doubt that engaging someone more 'relevant' is going to change anything much.   We know how stubborn U2 can be; if they want to be radio-relevant at the expense of making truly innovative music, their producer couldn't stop them, as NLOTH amply demonstrates.

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Re: Is There Still Any Point In U2 Making A New Album?
« Reply #132 on: May 04, 2012, 06:49:14 PM »
Agreed. I think Eno and Lanois still have potential, but imo it wasn't realised fully on NLOTH (except for a few songs like MoS). Working with new, younger producers is a great idea, so i'm glad they're recording with Danger Mouse and Redone.

But I think that was the band's fault.   They wanted something more radio-friendly that what NLOTH was originally going to be.   So you can't pin NLOTH's shortcomings solely or even mostly on the producers.   In which case I highly doubt that engaging someone more 'relevant' is going to change anything much.   We know how stubborn U2 can be; if they want to be radio-relevant at the expense of making truly innovative music, their producer couldn't stop them, as NLOTH amply demonstrates.

That's a very good point, something i'd forgotten about. After all, it was the same producer team that saw u2's dramatic overhaul, from the Joshua tree to Achtung baby. I think new producers will definitely change the 'sound' of the band, even if it is to a limited extent. But yeah, you're right, it's up to the band ultimately.
However, if they are willing to change their sound, and are open minded enough, i think new producers could encourage that, as they'll be dealing with very foreign ideas (and a new producer might be less passive than an old one, who's 'grown comfortable' with the band). And given the last we've heard from pretty much all band members, they do seem interested in exploring new sounds.
I think they realised they drained the well dry with the 'classic u2' sound after the (relative) commercial failures of Crazy tonight and Magnificent, which heavily featured that trademark chime. So hopefully they'll be encouraged to offer something new up.

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Re: Is There Still Any Point In U2 Making A New Album?
« Reply #133 on: May 05, 2012, 06:29:17 PM »
No really - i bet if they could settle on a 'direction' right now, we'd get a 2012 album... if the larry rumours are true right now, i bet that disagreement is what delays it.

What Larry rumors?

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Re: Is There Still Any Point In U2 Making A New Album?
« Reply #134 on: May 06, 2012, 07:32:23 AM »

At the end of the day, it is quality that sells.


ummm, no.