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Offline mattressjedi

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Re: U2 is losing me
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2012, 04:40:06 PM »
U2 has always seemed to care so much about their current music and what the next music will be that what keeps me interested is just that.

Plus their old stuff aint bad either.  :P

And MOS is likely my favorite song of theirs from the 00's by a wide margin. Shows they still can do some great stuff when they dont overproduce, overdub, and overproduce.

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Re: U2 is losing me
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2012, 05:47:39 PM »
I'm a relative new comer to the U2 game, having just became a fan maybe 6-7 years ago. Actually, prior to that, I pretty much hated U2, though it was for all the wrong reasons. My fandom started with the Joshua Tree album (the very first one I picked up after a recommendation from someone else) and continued with the two Best Of CDs and all of the 00's U2. I have to admit that up til last year, I hadn't even heard Achtung Baby in full, much less any of the pre-Joshua Tree and post AB 90's U2 stuff. Of course, after seeing U2 for the second time in concert last summer, I decided to delve deeper into their catalog.

I'm pretty sure I've been on a U2 binge for the past 10 months or so. Yeah, I've listened to other artists during that time, but I almost always come back to U2 after a couple days of listening to something else. Lately I've been listening to a lot of Zooropa/Pop after having listened to Achtung for probably months.

What keeps me interested is the prospect of more great music in the future (which I think songs like MOS prove they are capable of) plus the idea of seeing them live some more (and hopefully hearing some songs live that I haven't heard yet--namely stuff on Zooropa and Pop) and their massive back catalog of great music. They are one of the few artists that I can truly listen to on repeat and not get sick of.

Of course, I try to balance things to avoid burn out. So I have a lot of other artists I listen to, both new and old (one of my current favorites is Fitz & the Tantrums; another is the Foo Fighters). U2 is still my favorite, though, and unless they release a truly terrible, god awful CD next time around, I can't really see that changing.

But I'd say if you're losing interest, take a step back, listen to some other music, and then maybe return to U2 whenever it feels right.

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Re: U2 is losing me
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2012, 07:19:07 PM »
I still very much am, and feel that I always will very much be, interested in everything the band does in regards to music and other activities.  I like U2 simply for who they are and their music makes me happy when I listen to it.  Bono's outside charity work has inspired me to see the whole world, not just what's outside my front door, and try to help make it a better place. 

I've never been one of those fans, which there seems to be so many on this forum lately, who do nothing but whine about how U2's music sounds now and feels that threatening to quit as a fan will make the band begin to do what this fan wants them to do.  U2 makes music that they like in the hopes that their fans will like it, too.  They are the ones spending hours upon hours in the studio working, so they can release whatever sound they want.  U2 is also going to continue to make business decisions that makes them money.  This is their job and like everyone else with a job, they are allowed to make money from it.  Bono is going to try his best to save the world.  I think it's cool that he is using his status for good.  This is who they are now.  I don't see them ever going back to how they used to be when they first started, nor do I think I would ever want them to.  Like everyone, they've grown and evolved into the men they are today and I like that.  If you no longer like them, that's your prerogative, but I think some of you would have a better time as a U2 fan if you stopped picking them apart and simply liked them and their music for what they are and it is. 

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Re: U2 is losing me
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2012, 07:24:30 PM »
what keeps me interested?




I never got disinterested to begin with.  ;)

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Re: U2 is losing me
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2012, 07:51:55 PM »
I can see your argument about U2s artistry just not being there. They did have such a great artitistic run for so long and it has decresed. Bonos preoccupied with pragmatic networking and causes has oversahdowed the work.

And yes the new Heady Friends album is really inspired an a treat.

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Re: U2 is losing me
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2012, 09:30:28 PM »
See ya.

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Re: U2 is losing me
« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2012, 03:02:42 AM »
I've had a dramatic drop off of how much I care about U2, in general. It's a mix of being tired of Bono's nonstop bs about anything he talks about, the two-albums a decade pace, and the feeling like they are only going to get worse from here. There is so much amazing music being made by bands and producers who care, from Spencer Krug (a member of at least 3 or 4 bands, with at least 1 new album a year) to veterans like the Flaming Lips, who are also releasing inspired music at an all time high pace. I'm overwhelmed with new music, and U2's artistry just seems to be dying a slow death.

What keeps you guys interested?

I'm still interested in listening to their older work. As for the U2 of now, you're spot on. It's one thing a band being in artistic decline (which they clearly are) - it's quite another when said band has the most annoying frontman in history.

Quote from noted music commentator:

'I liked U2 a lot better before Bono was an insufferable douchebag with a moon-sized messiah complex.'
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Re: U2 is losing me
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2012, 05:06:50 AM »
Some of these arguments are going two ways at once. If U2 released and toured every year or every 2 years, they would NEVER be out of the media spolight at all, and you would get ten times the Bono you do now. Either that, or they would just burn out everyone on themselves, themselves included. Even Lady Gaga figured out that she needed to go away for awhile. When you're up and coming, yes, you release at a faster pace. But once you are the kind of famous that some people reach, everywhere you go and everything you say ends up being reported AT LEAST on a website.  I find it amusing when people on these forums complain about hearing Bono say the same thing over and over in interviews, as if everyone didn't say the same thing when asked the same questions a million times, and don't consider that maybe the problem is that they are over-saturating themselves by seeking out that which they are so sick of hearing. 

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Re: U2 is losing me
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2012, 05:11:43 AM »
I've had a dramatic drop off of how much I care about U2, in general. It's a mix of being tired of Bono's nonstop bs about anything he talks about, the two-albums a decade pace, and the feeling like they are only going to get worse from here. There is so much amazing music being made by bands and producers who care, from Spencer Krug (a member of at least 3 or 4 bands, with at least 1 new album a year) to veterans like the Flaming Lips, who are also releasing inspired music at an all time high pace. I'm overwhelmed with new music, and U2's artistry just seems to be dying a slow death.

What keeps you guys interested?

I'm still interested in listening to their older work. As for the U2 of now, you're spot on. It's one thing a band being in artistic decline (which they clearly are)

htdaab -> nloth is not a decline

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Re: U2 is losing me
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2012, 05:20:47 AM »
Some of these arguments are going two ways at once. If U2 released and toured every year or every 2 years, they would NEVER be out of the media spolight at all, and you would get ten times the Bono you do now. Either that, or they would just burn out everyone on themselves, themselves included. Even Lady Gaga figured out that she needed to go away for awhile. When you're up and coming, yes, you release at a faster pace. But once you are the kind of famous that some people reach, everywhere you go and everything you say ends up being reported AT LEAST on a website.  I find it amusing when people on these forums complain about hearing Bono say the same thing over and over in interviews, as if everyone didn't say the same thing when asked the same questions a million times, and don't consider that maybe the problem is that they are over-saturating themselves by seeking out that which they are so sick of hearing.

There are plenty of musicians as famous as Boon who manage to limit their exposure to over-exposure. Here's a quote from RTT from the man himself:

"My sanctimony - I know I can be a pain in the arse. I have an annoying gene; it's in my DNA. I even annoy myself. When righteous anger turns to self-righteous, projectile vomit is the right response."

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Re: U2 is losing me
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2012, 05:24:04 AM »
I've had a dramatic drop off of how much I care about U2, in general. It's a mix of being tired of Bono's nonstop bs about anything he talks about, the two-albums a decade pace, and the feeling like they are only going to get worse from here. There is so much amazing music being made by bands and producers who care, from Spencer Krug (a member of at least 3 or 4 bands, with at least 1 new album a year) to veterans like the Flaming Lips, who are also releasing inspired music at an all time high pace. I'm overwhelmed with new music, and U2's artistry just seems to be dying a slow death.

What keeps you guys interested?

I'm still interested in listening to their older work. As for the U2 of now, you're spot on. It's one thing a band being in artistic decline (which they clearly are)

htdaab -> nloth is not a decline

It's almost a sideways step. Although NLOTH tries harder than HTDAAB, weirdly it ends up being a worse record. There's nothing of the quality of SYCMIOYO or Yahweh on NLOTH. Although NLOTH is an attempt to be more interesting musically. Also, the Vertigo Tour was WAY better than 360.

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Re: U2 is losing me
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2012, 05:24:40 AM »
I've had a dramatic drop off of how much I care about U2, in general. It's a mix of being tired of Bono's nonstop bs about anything he talks about, the two-albums a decade pace, and the feeling like they are only going to get worse from here. There is so much amazing music being made by bands and producers who care, from Spencer Krug (a member of at least 3 or 4 bands, with at least 1 new album a year) to veterans like the Flaming Lips, who are also releasing inspired music at an all time high pace. I'm overwhelmed with new music, and U2's artistry just seems to be dying a slow death.

What keeps you guys interested?

 It's the music. I'll pinch a word you exited with as well - their artistry.

 I'm really enjoying other acts at the moment as well: Florence & The Machine, The Black Keys, The Doves...And the truth of the matter is, I enjoy them because I can hear the notes, the approach and arrangement, sometimes the passion U2 once had cornered the market with.

 I'm "still here" because the same surmounting spirit in their music that's always been there in varying degrees keeps popping up. And whether it's nostalgic melancholy or the perception that their "A-game" is still the best in music, I don't know, but even hiccups like the a few songs on recent albums aren't enough to deter me in the hope that a complete masterpiece is around the corner.  While I wait, I'm content with the 80% rate of great music they seem to be quite capable of producing.

  On the gripe side, I mean I wish Bono would lose the shades, I wish more mystery was brought back, lol call it a want for the masochistic appearance when happy and U2 couldnt be more mutually exclusive. I wish Bono would stop parroting same soundbites and that when an album is released (on a bi-annual basis) that it stop pandering to  urban demographic approval as though if Bono doesn't throw out a gang sign every now and then, that the forever ahead black musical community won't bless the band's offerings. U2 isn't "funky" and never has been nor ever will need to be...I have issues that follow, "If Bono wants relevancy and defines it as will.I am, while progressive acts like Florence and The Machine don't, what musical scene is he following and aspiring to emulate?"

 In the meantime, I listen in appreciation to other acts and hear U2's influence and remain satisfied if not arrogantly so that despite a few qualities I wish were different about the band and their sporadic album production, I'm surrounded by evidence that compels me to remain convinced that their likewise sporadic substandard production is still a pretty lofty summit most bands wish they could reach half of.

 Ive been recently listening to NLOTH again, and the first four tunes as well as the last three are as good as anything by the band in their history.  And to think of the songs passed over, "Mercy", "Winter", etc...NLOTH could have been a record on par with TJT or AB, they were thaaaat close.

 Cause for great optimism I think.

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Re: U2 is losing me
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2012, 05:40:06 AM »
I've had to stop reading most of the non-music related writing about U2, and when the tour comes around I generally try to ignore the setlists (unless they pull out a rarity). Forced lack of knowledge does make what they do a bit more interesting. Regarding the music and their concerts, which are obviously the main reason I like the band, I still think they make better music than anyone else out there, and their concerts are obviously the best in the industry. I just wish they'd get albums out a bit more quickly, but I understand that they can't necessarily do that if they're touring for a couple years at a time. Any band that can still make music as amazing as No Line On The Horizon, Breathe, Winter, and Disappearing Act 37 years after they started playing together has definitely got it together.

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Re: U2 is losing me
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2012, 06:01:22 AM »
I only care about the music but strangely I barely listen to it.

2 years on I can look at the 360 tour and think 'well, perhaps I could have saved some cash and not gone to Perth, Brisbane, Sydney, LA and Vegas', but there in the moment there was nowhere else I'd rather be.

Right now though there is so much in music I'm interested in, U2 are miles down the list. I doubt that concerns them.

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Re: U2 is losing me
« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2012, 09:04:23 AM »
Why am I still interested? Because I know what they're capable of, and U2 mean far more to me than any other artist.

I was very concerned that ATYCLB was the beginning of the end - downhill all the way from here, just as my fan experience was beginning. Then they hit a real peak in 2004/05, and completely restored my faith in them. NLOTH was poor but the tour made up for it, and I see no reason to believe their next album can't be great.

What does worry me is that when the band is paralysed with insecurity, all this griping and doom-mongering will only make things worse.