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Offline tigerfan41

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Re: Your thoughts on Pop and NLOTH
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2012, 12:31:21 PM »
Yeah, it has a lot to do with the timeline. That and the fact that like ATYCLB and HTDAAB before it, NLOTH marked another step away from the sounds of 90's U2. If people were hoping for NLOTH to be a return to the music that U2 was making during the 90's, they were very disappointed.

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Re: Your thoughts on Pop and NLOTH
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2012, 12:42:25 PM »
I felt much of NLOTH sounded more like a Passengers record than U2...

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Re: Your thoughts on Pop and NLOTH
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2012, 12:50:03 PM »
I haven't heard the Passengers record so I have no idea about that. I did really like a few songs on NLOTH, though.

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Re: Your thoughts on Pop and NLOTH
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2012, 01:07:00 PM »
POP had focus - you might not have liked the style of the album but it had a well defined aesthetic. As did its accompanying tour.

NLOTH is an unholy mess of a record with probably the worst middle section of any LP. In some ways this reflected the tour too. I think if they'd thought through the whole project better and been more objective they could have done something really good with NLOTH. Plus poor bono could use someone filtering out his more dubious lyrics. Then there's Boots to consider...

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Re: Your thoughts on Pop and NLOTH
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2012, 01:09:27 PM »
I felt much of NLOTH sounded more like a Passengers record than U2...

Well that's because..........you know the rest.

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Re: Your thoughts on Pop and NLOTH
« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2012, 01:30:51 PM »
personally, I rank Pop and NLOTH as their #2 and #3 albums. Only Zooropa stands higher.

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Re: Your thoughts on Pop and NLOTH
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2012, 01:37:21 PM »
I have Pop and NLOTH at #5 and #6 respectively.


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Re: Your thoughts on Pop and NLOTH
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2012, 01:45:54 PM »
Both are in my Top 10.

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Re: Your thoughts on Pop and NLOTH
« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2012, 01:51:14 PM »

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Oh, I see Pop is apparently not favoured by noisy Bon Jovi fans, an even smaller minority on this forum.

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Re: Your thoughts on Pop and NLOTH
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2012, 02:03:37 PM »
I find it very hard to rank the "in-between" albums, but Pop might be around 4th or 5th for me, with NLOTH at the bottom.

If NLOTH *had* been approached as a Passengers-style side project, I probably would have been a lot more forgiving of it. (Some of the tracks would have been perfectly acceptable as B-sides, too.) But after waiting five long years for a new U2 album, it definitely wasn't what I'd hoped for.

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Re: Your thoughts on Pop and NLOTH
« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2012, 02:03:47 PM »

EDIT:
Oh, I see Pop is apparently not favoured by noisy Bon Jovi fans, an even smaller minority on this forum.

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Which just means our Pop lovin' tastes are spot on!!

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Re: Your thoughts on Pop and NLOTH
« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2012, 02:15:44 PM »
I have to say that Bon Jovi is not favored by this October-loving U2 fan. :)

All of U2 albums are superior to Bon Jovi.

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Re: Your thoughts on Pop and NLOTH
« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2012, 05:19:02 PM »
POP is U2's best album in my opinion. It still sounds fresh to me. The lyrics, the rhythm section, and the Edge's effects are like no other. What I love about it is that the product sounds greater than the parts and doesn't sound like U2 are trying to be U2. All the songs are different and unique, yet they form a cohesive whole. It's the only album I can listen to and not "see through" their motives. They created a sound that, if I remember correctly, Bono said was "not invented yet". It's also the only album where I don't prefer the live to the original recording. I love the production and feel of the album. It's got both an organic and otherworldly feel to it. And to me, it just sounds solid. I have respect of all of U2's music, but this album's got a heavy, solid feel to it that's not present on any other U2 album.

As for NLOTH, I really wanted to love it, but I couldn't. As some have said, MOS is a great song - the best on the album. When I first listened to it, I was into the first three songs, but then Unknown Caller and I'll Go Crazy killed the momentum. Boots was OK and I liked Stand Up, but Fez and White as Snow sounded like unfocused noise and a boring acoustic number, respectively. I liked Breathe and I the mood of Cedars. So I was so-so about the album. I really tried to love it, but it never happened. It's too disjointed.

I believe, though, that U2 can still be great. Edge needs to do some solos, Bono needs to sing about something important to him (hell, maybe he could even sing about wanting to be relevant and make it general enough to apply to anybody wanting to fit it), and the sound should be different.

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Re: Your thoughts on Pop and NLOTH
« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2012, 05:41:17 PM »
Hah, by George I agree with you on many points. Nice summary of Pop, and I like your idea about getting back to personal lyrics.
Bono does need some tighter QC in that department.

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Re: Your thoughts on Pop and NLOTH
« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2012, 06:01:07 PM »
Bono needs to sing about something important to him (hell, maybe he could even sing about wanting to be relevant and make it general enough to apply to anybody wanting to fit it),

He already has:

You can hold onto something so tight
You've already lost it