*deep, dark, laugh*
Hello friends. Hello Jick. I see you're still
For some senior @U2 forum members, you may remember a thread I created a few years ago called "Take It Or Leave It". What was the thread about? Well, if you search it, you will find it. But additionally, it's interesting, that at the time, it was the first of its kind. I can't help but think... I'm responsible for imaginary friend's sentiments in the "Can U2 ever come back" thread.
"not another one of these threads."
Well, you see imaginary friend, perhaps eluding to what U2 is becoming--an image or existence ONLY in my
mind--that's just it. U2 needs these threads. U2 needs these threads more than anything else. They need to know what they're up against. And that's why I'm here today. That's why I've returned. Like a hologram video being played from a droid in Tatooine. Things have only gotten worse since TIOLI Part 1, and the more time eats up the calender, and the more time album release dates are set back, the worse, and worse, and
worse it gets. I'm here today to help save them from suffering the fate of Alderanne. Another one of these threads? Tell me imaginary friend
, is your user name an allusion to what you want? Do you want U2 to be DEAD!?
***light, airy, television station communication broadcast pause music***
BUT WHERE'S THE FUN PART?
There is no fun part. But the other part to this thread, before I get back to U2 and the new album, is Reddit. I'm not sure if everyone knows what Reddit is, but... I'm going to assume that you do.
If you already use Reddit, or ever thought of registering, the U2 sub-reddit on the site could definitely use more users, and activity as a whole. Not trying to stray people away from @U2, but joining the U2 sub-reddit would have a two-prong effect.
1) It would get more U2 fandom out there in the interwebz
2) U2 is actually one Reddit's most hated things
. Though there is a fan base on Reddit, U2 is mostly hated by the majority of regular visitors, whom, make up for the collective opinion of what is deemed "cool" and "acceptable" as good forms of art and culture in the world; deeper ties in North America (having the majority of its users from America). None the less, subscribing to the sub-reddit, and becoming actively involved there, would also obviously see the number of U2 fans rise, but it help overturn the tide that is just demolishing U2's legacy day after day.
The url for Reddit's main page is: www.reddit.com
The url for the U2 sub-reddit is: www.reddit.com/r/u2band
Once logged in, you simply click the subscribe button in the U2 sub-reddit. Currently, there are 19 users. This is scant. Let's up that sh** and, get people talkin'
, as Bono would say.
***Back to TIOLI Part 2***
I suppose I shouldn't make this too long, for I get the impression this is an overly discussed theme on @U2. Fine.
I'll be less dramatic, and just get to the point.
If this sort of topic doesn't concern you think and it's a big waste of time, that's great. Clearly, PLENTY of U2 fans disagree with you. So as the adage goes, "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say it all", I would like alter that slightly. If this thread doesn't concern you, don't say anything! If you comment, have it constructive and conducive TO the topic, not ABOUT the topic as a whole. Thanks.
My absolute sentiments from the last thread stand. I will reiterate them.
Take it or leave it (U2 LTD. Camp): U2 need to stop making Elevation siblings.
Take it or leave it (U2 LTD. Camp): U2's next single, needs to abso-freakin-lutely be an amazing song. It needs to be so good you can see U2 haters twitch as they try to find something negative to say about it. The next U2 single that takes the air-waves as U2's first song in 3 (or 4, or 5) years that people hear, needs to be, HA-MAZING! No less. NO, LESS!
Those two sentiments stand. They are absolute
. Take note, U2 and U2 camp.
This is partially why U2 is taking their sweet ass time. They know this. They know they can't come back with a Get On Your Boots. That would be suicide. They know this. They've used up their credibility
. Do you know what I mean? They've used up their cred
. They can no longer coast on the U2 brand. If they actually want to people to think they are holy like they were in the early 90s, it's time to pull up the socks, and jesus christ, make some good ass music.
Yes. Music. This is the tricky part. Clearly, I think U2 is capable of such a task that is ahead of them, but the longer the wait, the bigger that hill gets. 'cause man... the music.
Music today, is just.
Dude, U2 need to come back with something CRAZY man. In the last year music evolved so much. SO MUCH. It's insane. I have a music blog (not going to plug it; not why I'm here), and this summer I went to Bonnaroo and Osheaga. And if I had the cash, I'd be going to ACL. Anyway, the music that's out today man, at this point, makes NLOTH, and at parts, 'Bomb, look like music made my Rock n Roll dinosaurs. The exact species U2 has declared many times they wish not to be.
I've always been involved with music really, but running a music blog and attending the two festivals this past summer, it's very hard to see U2 as a contemporary to these artists. And by very hard, I'm going to say AT THIS CURRENT STATE, U2 is not a contemporary. Bono once said in an interview (to the effect of): When I look at the Killers, I see them as contemporary. We neither look up, nor down to them. We are together in the same room.
At the time, it was true. Today? Not a chance.
At this current state, U2 would be out of place at Bonnaroo. Just the people, and the music, and the atmosphere, and the culture... I don't know what to say, U2 doesn't fit in with it. And the reason? As Bono once said in an interview in '96 or '97 on
the current state of the music industry then: The records are boring.
Ironic, isn't it?
Not that I think that any of these artists hold even an unlit match to U2's atomic-bomb of a legacy, but when I think of Skrillex, Danny Brown, Ziggurat, Flying Lotus, Animal Collective, to name a few... this... this music is just so crazy... it's effin' crazy man. It's on another level. Heck, it's on 3 other levels. It's just so far out of the realm of pop-rock that U2's been dishing out for the last decade, it doesn't even compare. It's like bring a knife to an atomic bomb fight... and U2's holding the knife!
Even music videos. Check out any videos by Flying Lotus, Metronomy, or Death Grips.
Check out this music video: Deathgrips - I've Seen Footage (http://youtu.be/DigtCrO77L8
) (NOTE the song as well)
Then, check out just the song Deathgrips - Hacker (http://youtu.be/uoZgZT4DGSY
) (NOTE the album art)
I'd like to highlight the song by saying: WTF. But, it's one of my favorite songs of the year. It reminds me of Mofo. But the thing is, it's craaazier
than Mofo. And dudes, this is the sh** that people are listening to these days. This is the stuff that gets people goin' off the deep end at music festivals.
Do you think for a million year, you're gonna see a bunch of people in their 20s and 30s going nuts to Get On Your Boots?!HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Fat effin' chance.
Hell, here's another heart crushing fact. Between the time I found @U2 (around 1998) to NLOTH era, I checked @U2 daily. I, checked @U2, daily. For over 10 years, I visited @U2, dai-ly. Got that? Okay. You ready? (sorry Matt; not your fault). In the last year, year and a half, I proooobably visited @U2 once a month. That's right. Once, a freakin' month. That's a 12 times a year. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW RIDICULOUS THAT IS!? I checked up on my favorite band, multiple times a day (MULTIPLE!) for over 10 years, and in the last 18 months, I could not have been bothered to visit @U2 more than a paltry dozen to two dozen times. And do you know why? It's because I'm BORED! I'm bored with U2 and I'm bored with U2's new album news! I'm not excited to hear about their new album. I'm genuinely, not even in the slightest, not excited. Why? WHY SHOULD I? We always joke how Bono says "Edge is on fire-haha". Haha? No haha. IT'S NOT FUNNY ANYMORE. DUDE, BONO, SERIOUSLY. STOP IT. STOP SAYING YOU GUYS ARE ON and FIRE MAKING YOUR BEST WORK. JUST MAKE IT ALREADY! FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS HOLY, JUST GOD DAMN RECORD IT, AND RELEASE IT! STOP TALKING ABOUT REAPPLYING FOR THE JOB, AND JUST SHOW UP TO WORK ALREADY!
"not another one of these threads"
NO! NO!--well actually, YES! YES! ANOTHER ONE OF THESE GOD DAMN THREADS. YES! Because that's what U2 needs to light the fire under their ass to start making music that will compete with the sh** that's out there. It's not funny anymore. It's not cute. I'm not interested in what Bono, or a producer, or a friend of the band has to say about your album. I'm serious man. That's why I visit @U2 once a month. I don't care anymore. It's not cute. It's not funny. For the first time ever, for the real first time ever, I'm losing god damn interest in you man. IT'S NOT FUNNY, and I'm not interested. Do you know what I am interested in? A NEW ALBUM. A new album. A NEW ALBUM. I'm interested in a new god, damn, album. I'm not necessarily pushing you to make an album. I'm not necessarily demanding a new album tomorrow like I'm entitled (though, the longer they push the album back the more people forget about them), I'm just tired of news of new material, and then being handed something YEARS later, and, speaking of Boots specifically, getting handed a piece of crap.
Take It Or Leave It: U2 can come back. But make it quick, and make it swift, as things have only worsened since 2009. And whatever they do, you better knock the F****** socks off of every man, woman and child when you come back with that lead single and album.
That is all.