I think we should just shut this thread down. Jick, you could always repost your post about Pop on another thread so people can see it.
This thread can be shut down. Because although my second post is nothing but facts and excerpts through over a decade of research in international publications, the first post was made by a creep-like fan of mine.
Hence all discussions after his first post are "fruits from a poisonous tree." A new thread can be started, this time be real members with real identities. But I will not post my research in the POP worship thread because it might be inappropriate for the mood and blind gushing everpresent in that thread.