From the Sky Down nominated for a Grammy

[Starman]

How in the world is it a music video?  It's a documentary.

They consider feature length stuff as long form music videos. Concert videos and documentaries generally are nominated in this category. I think ZooTV Live From Sydney won or was nominated in 1994.

I understand concert videos.  But documentaries are not musical. How do documentaries demonstrate musical talent?   It's not even performance art.

This is from a category description guide. Which I found via Wikipedia.  Maybe it's outdated :
http://www2.grammy.com/PDFs/Recording_Academy/52guide.pdf

Long Form Music Video Videos Only
Award to the artist and to the video director/video producer.
ELIGIBLE:
• Music videos, released for sale to the public for the first time during the awards eligibility year.
• Music video programs that made a first appearance on broadcast or cable television during the awards eligibility year and which are synchronous or approximately synchronous to a recording commercially released during the awards eligibility year.
• Various artist videos, such as tribute or live performances. (Award would go to director/producer only.)
• Documentaries of musicians if music is a substantive part of the video.
NOT ELIGIBLE:
• Music videos under 20 minutes in length.
• Non-musical programs.
• Compilation of short form or sampler video packages by various artists.
• Theatrical motion pictures which are or have been in general release.
• Any long form videos or promotional clips which were eligible in a previous eligibility year or compilations of such.

I think the key question here, is music a substantive part of From the Sky Down?  I would say no.

Of course it is. It's about an album.

[Starman]

It never ceases to amaze me to observe how different many "forum fans" are from the "real world fans" of U2.

From The Sky Down gets nominated for a Grammy and people diss it.

ATYCLB and HTDAAB wins Grammies - the "militant fans" despise it.

POP wins zero Grammies and sells poorly by U2-standards - the "noisy minority" praise it to the high heavens.

It's almost like I am living in a parallel universe where success by U2 is deemed a "sellout" by the "forum fans" while failure by U2 is considered "genius" by the same group.

Strange by true.

Cheers,

J

I think we're all just U2 hipsters.

[mdmomof7]

Achtung baby lost to eric Clapton unplugged.

Says everything you need to know about Grammies.

Industry awards are meaningless when it comes to judging artistic merit.


Does ANYONE really think "dances with wolves" is a better movie than "goodfellas" for example?

How shallow do you have to be to judge artistic merit by awards shows ?

Oh. Yeah.

At that time, I loved Dances With Wolves and liked GoodFellas. 

[Thunder Peel]

I thought it was a good film and I'd like to see it win. Time will tell.

[jw]

How in the world is it a music video?  It's a documentary.

They consider feature length stuff as long form music videos. Concert videos and documentaries generally are nominated in this category. I think ZooTV Live From Sydney won or was nominated in 1994.

I understand concert videos.  But documentaries are not musical. How do documentaries demonstrate musical talent?   It's not even performance art.

This is from a category description guide. Which I found via Wikipedia.  Maybe it's outdated :
http://www2.grammy.com/PDFs/Recording_Academy/52guide.pdf

Long Form Music Video Videos Only
Award to the artist and to the video director/video producer.
ELIGIBLE:
• Music videos, released for sale to the public for the first time during the awards eligibility year.
• Music video programs that made a first appearance on broadcast or cable television during the awards eligibility year and which are synchronous or approximately synchronous to a recording commercially released during the awards eligibility year.
• Various artist videos, such as tribute or live performances. (Award would go to director/producer only.)
• Documentaries of musicians if music is a substantive part of the video.
NOT ELIGIBLE:
• Music videos under 20 minutes in length.
• Non-musical programs.
• Compilation of short form or sampler video packages by various artists.
• Theatrical motion pictures which are or have been in general release.
• Any long form videos or promotional clips which were eligible in a previous eligibility year or compilations of such.

I think the key question here, is music a substantive part of From the Sky Down?  I would say no.

Of course it is. It's about an album.

Yes, it's "about" an album.  They talk "about" music.  Musical performances are not significant part of the documentary.  It seems to me the bullet point "Documentaries of musicians if music is a substantive part of the video" would not apply in this case.

Well, I've gone on too much about this.  Clearly the documentary qualifies otherwise it wouldn't have been nominated.  I just don't see how it fits the criteria set forth.  Maybe there's more music than I remember.

[zootv]

I thought it was a great documentary and it deserves a grammy.

[BurningDownLove]

Does this mean U2 will be making an appearance at the Grammys?

[Streets]

It never ceases to amaze me to observe how different many "forum fans" are from the "real world fans" of U2.

From The Sky Down gets nominated for a Grammy and people diss it.

ATYCLB and HTDAAB wins Grammies - the "militant fans" despise it.

POP wins zero Grammies and sells poorly by U2-standards - the "noisy minority" praise it to the high heavens.

It's almost like I am living in a parallel universe where success by U2 is deemed a "sellout" by the "forum fans" while failure by U2 is considered "genius" by the same group.

Strange by true.

Cheers,

J

It's called justice. 

[THRILLHO]

It might get loud was sooooo much better.

but yeah. do hope it wins.

Really? Meh.

lol no. FTSD is great. So was IMGL but there's really no comparison, FTSD, hands down.

[Pocket Merlin]

Does this mean U2 will be making an appearance at the Grammys?

Premiere new song and announce new album in acceptance speech!!! Pwahahaha...shows how news-hungry we are.

[dagobah]

Does ANYONE really think "dances with wolves" is a better movie than "goodfellas" for example?

I love both movies.  I concede that Goodfellas is more fun to watch, but Dances With Wolves (especially the 3 hour 56 minute version on the Special Edition DVD) helps me understand how disrespectful my ancestors (here in the United States) treated Native Americans on their land; it helps me understand how we humans are connected to nature (the land, the air, the water, wildlife, to other humans); it's an adventure with some pretty good scenery and an interesting story.  So, yeah, for me . . . . . Dances With Wolves is a better movie than Goodfellas, but I live up in the mountains with the goal of connecting with mother nature . . . . thus, I'm a little biased.

One thing both movies have in common:  quite a few people get killed

I enjoyed From The Sky Down, but I would not have imagined it being nominated for any awards.

[codeguy]

WHO CARES?