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Re: Hypocrisy Who are the biggest hypocrites?
« Reply #105 on: January 23, 2013, 03:33:58 PM »
laws become irrelevant under martial law. At the point when an insurgency starts all liberties are outlawed. But you have to be armed in the first place to start—Dig it

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Re: Hypocrisy Who are the biggest hypocrites?
« Reply #106 on: January 23, 2013, 03:55:30 PM »
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laws become irrelevant under martial law. At the point when an insurgency starts all liberties are outlawed. But you have to be armed in the first place to start—Dig it

to start it can you be armed with anything (handguns, knives etc) or does it have to be assault weapons (excuse my ignorance with terminology)?

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Re: Hypocrisy Who are the biggest hypocrites?
« Reply #107 on: January 23, 2013, 03:56:09 PM »
Back to hypocrits:

Why did we sell 4 F-16's to Egypt?

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Re: Hypocrisy Who are the biggest hypocrites?
« Reply #108 on: January 23, 2013, 03:57:57 PM »
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laws become irrelevant under martial law. At the point when an insurgency starts all liberties are outlawed. But you have to be armed in the first place to start—Dig it

to start it can you be armed with anything (handguns, knives etc) or does it have to be assault weapons (excuse my ignorance with terminology)?

You could argue that, but our founders intended that the populace have access to military grade weapons, see the writings of Webster, Pain, et all

You have to last long enough to get outside support

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Re: Hypocrisy Who are the biggest hypocrites?
« Reply #109 on: January 23, 2013, 07:57:59 PM »
Who are the biggest hypocrites?

Anyone who labels another a hypocrite.

YEAH! Get that circular argument inta ya!

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Re: Hypocrisy Who are the biggest hypocrites?
« Reply #110 on: January 23, 2013, 08:03:41 PM »
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You have to last long enough to get outside support

or alternatively plan ahead and ask for outside support (arms) from the outset like the irish.

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Re: Hypocrisy Who are the biggest hypocrites?
« Reply #111 on: January 24, 2013, 10:45:57 AM »
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I argue the Irish revolution is exactly the same as the American revolution and Civil war--

Shark = Jumped.

Actually, even leaving out Ireland, the very fact that you try to claim that the revolution and the civil war are the same is in itself a shark jumping.

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If you watched Secretary Clinton testify this morning, you'd add another to the list...

True; it's quite hard not to add Rand Paul, Ron Johnson and John McCain after they were shellacked by Hillary for their staggering hypocrisy. Good call!

Yeah, they didn't even bring up the illegal arms running operation Ambassador Stevens was meeting about in Benghazi that evening. Why does no one ask WHY he was there to begin with?
With all your knowledge, surely you can enlighten us on this, UC. I think there are now too many sources for it not to "break" but given the lazy media we have these days, it won't matter. And, if Eric Holder still has a job, there will likely be no hearing on this Iran-Contra style operation they were running out of Libya...

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Re: Hypocrisy Who are the biggest hypocrites?
« Reply #112 on: January 24, 2013, 10:54:43 AM »
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You have to last long enough to get outside support

or alternatively plan ahead and ask for outside support (arms) from the outset like the irish.

Apologies for chiming in, perhaps like Donny in "The Big Lebowski" and thus perhaps being out of context.  However, my question is - If the US spends something slightly more than the next 13 countries combined (see chart: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login ), then from where and by whom is this "outside support" going to come from?  Just curious?

IMHO, some people like Alex Jones (and more recently Ted Nugent) have about as much credibility as the notorious Jesus Quintana, whose rant is featured in quote #2.  Note, this link contains explicit language, so click at your own discretion.

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Re: Hypocrisy Who are the biggest hypocrites?
« Reply #113 on: January 24, 2013, 12:31:49 PM »
we're not talking about outside support for the government itself but for US citizens when they inevitably revolt against the government

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Re: Hypocrisy Who are the biggest hypocrites?
« Reply #114 on: January 24, 2013, 04:11:41 PM »
I find it irritating when I see some female pop stars come out and talk about how they feel that pornography and society objectifies women, then they make videos and put on shows that involve them wearing kinky clothing and being overly sexual. Isn't that a contraction and in the process making yourself a watered-down sexual object? I'll never understand that one.

I agree that porn and other media forms are terrible toward women (and men as well). However, you can't speak out against these forms of media and then make something similar to them and label it as being different because you're "in control". I simply don't buy it. You're not showing yourself to be free or any better; you're just using something slightly less-perverse to sell your albums and concert tickets. Watch a video like Rihanna's "S&M" or Christina Aguilera's "Not Myself Tonight" and tell me that those aren't objectifying the singers. They're not doing anything different, yet pop stars will rag on other people for making the same thing. 
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Re: Hypocrisy Who are the biggest hypocrites?
« Reply #115 on: January 25, 2013, 06:18:37 AM »
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I find it irritating when I see some female pop stars come out and talk about how they feel that pornography and society objectifies women, then they make videos and put on shows that involve them wearing kinky clothing and being overly sexual. Isn't that a contraction and in the process making yourself a watered-down sexual object? I'll never understand that one.

I agree that porn and other media forms are terrible toward women (and men as well). However, you can't speak out against these forms of media and then make something similar to them and label it as being different because you're "in control". I simply don't buy it. You're not showing yourself to be free or any better; you're just using something slightly less-perverse to sell your albums and concert tickets. Watch a video like Rihanna's "S&M" or Christina Aguilera's "Not Myself Tonight" and tell me that those aren't objectifying the singers. They're not doing anything different, yet pop stars will rag on other people for making the same thing. 


Good point.  If I were blessed with a beautiful singing voice.  I would dress like Enya.  Especially, on stage.

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Re: Hypocrisy Who are the biggest hypocrites?
« Reply #116 on: January 27, 2013, 06:29:40 AM »
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Watch a video like Rihanna's "S&M" or Christina Aguilera's "Not Myself Tonight"

Just took your advice and I'm very glad I did.

Granted, you need to turn the volume down but after that, not too bad at all.

4 stars.

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Re: Hypocrisy Who are the biggest hypocrites?
« Reply #117 on: January 27, 2013, 03:31:56 PM »
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Watch a video like Rihanna's "S&M" or Christina Aguilera's "Not Myself Tonight"

Just took your advice and I'm very glad I did.

Granted, you need to turn the volume down but after that, not too bad at all.

4 stars.

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Re: Hypocrisy Who are the biggest hypocrites?
« Reply #118 on: January 30, 2013, 04:14:29 PM »
I find the MPAA a bit disturbing although I'm not sure it is hypocritical, but the two items that are the basis of movie ratings are so widely off, it's disturbing.

Nudity and Sex vs. Violence.  Movies are allowed quite a bit of violence yet almost any portrayal of nudity or sex gets you an R rating faster than one can blink.  I find it mostly disturbing because the result is sex and love are vilified while violence is glorified.  I'm not talking porn, but just you typical mainstream movie.  It's ironic because violence is one of the biggest problems in our country as shown in the earlier gun control and 2nd amendment debates.

Interestingly, in regards to that debate, I'm not sure how I feel.  I honestly believe the forefathers anticipated that amendments would evolve over time rather than become fixed into stone like they've become.  I also believe that for the US to become a safer place that people are going have to be willing to give up some of their rights in terms of either the 1st or 2nd amendment.  I'm not sure both can coexist.  As far as the purpose of the 2nd amendment goes arguing that assault weapons keeps you even with the military neglects the fact that today's military would still beat you with its tanks, planes, and bombs.  An assault rifle isn't going to get you much further than a non-assault rifle in a revolution.  As it is, civil unrest in this country is more likely to be successful on a cyber or economic front than a military or battle front.

All that being said... Gun control won't solve anything.  Criminals will get their weapons one way or another.  People think too narrowly; their are issues such as mental health, public perception of violence, etc. that need to be overhauled along with or instead of gun control.

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Re: Hypocrisy Who are the biggest hypocrites?
« Reply #119 on: January 30, 2013, 05:01:17 PM »
It's not just movies. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas got yanked from store shelves over a hidden minigame that couldn't even be accessed by players without hacking the disc where the main character pleasures a woman offscreen by pressing buttons when prompted on time. This was considered so offensive and objectionable that the game got pulled and didn't get rereleased until the data was scrubbed from the code.

This was a game where you could wantonly murder random citizens, have sex with hookers to restore health, deal drugs for money, steal cars, etc. This was all fine and dandy for players to be exposed to, but the Hot Coffee sex minigame? Nuh uh. SCANDAL!

The message implicit in this response is that pleasuring a woman is unacceptable, but murdering them is just fine.