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Which of the new proposals to reduce gun violence do you support?

Universal background checks on those purchasing firearms
29 (26.1%)
A restriction on the sale of high-capacity gun magazines
24 (21.6%)
A ban on the purchase of new military-grade assault weapons
27 (24.3%)
Research into ways to prevent and deal with gun violence
28 (25.2%)
None of the Above
3 (2.7%)

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Offline Maximus

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Re: Never Again: The Fight to prevent massacres is beginning
« Reply #180 on: February 14, 2013, 06:32:06 AM »
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Legally, of course, abortions are exactly as constitutionally protected as guns, even if the right to an abortion is less explicitly spelled out. That burns up a lot of people a lot, but that is the legal reality.

You need to show me where in the constitution that is

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Re: Never Again: The Fight to prevent massacres is beginning
« Reply #181 on: February 14, 2013, 09:44:13 AM »
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Re: Never Again: The Fight to prevent massacres is beginning
« Reply #182 on: February 14, 2013, 03:44:24 PM »
I do love that every US citizen is a constitutional lawyer

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Re: Never Again: The Fight to prevent massacres is beginning
« Reply #183 on: February 14, 2013, 09:22:39 PM »
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I do love that every US citizen is a constitutional lawyer

Not this US citizen........ ;D

I still remember the days of saying what you thought and not having google at your hands.

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Re: Never Again: The Fight to prevent massacres is beginning
« Reply #184 on: February 15, 2013, 02:47:27 AM »
is this the thread for questions about catholicism?

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Re: Never Again: The Fight to prevent massacres is beginning
« Reply #185 on: February 15, 2013, 06:20:30 AM »
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is this the thread for questions about catholicism?

Pro Life/Pro Choice I think.

perhaps.

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Re: Never Again: The Fight to prevent massacres is beginning
« Reply #186 on: February 15, 2013, 06:42:45 AM »
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is this the thread for questions about catholicism?

Glad to see your paying attention..  ;)

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Re: Never Again: The Fight to prevent massacres is beginning
« Reply #187 on: February 16, 2013, 02:19:09 PM »
I like you're response
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Re: Never Again: The Fight to prevent massacres is beginning
« Reply #188 on: February 18, 2013, 05:37:13 PM »
Colorado has followed New York on the path towards some form of sanity with gun safety laws. Although it is the mountain west and the exact sort of region where we're told that it should be impossible to do anything on guns, Colorado is instating four measures, all of them opposed by the NRA:

1) Background Checks on Private Sales
2) Limiting gun magazines to fifteen rounds
3) Requiring gun buyers to pay for their own background checks
4) Banning concealed weapons on college campuses.

These are small measures, but they are big steps forward after so long when any gun laws at all were considered politically toxic. 

In addition, it is now looking likely that a ban on high capacity magazines will join expanded mental health screening and universal background checks at the core of a new gun safety law expected to come before the Senate with bipartisan support. If passed, it would be the first substantive national piece of gun safety legislation passed since 1994, the first major legislative defeat for the NRA since the same year, and represent the passage of what President Obama and his Administration have described as the "core" of his plan and what most liberal think tanks and research groups consider to be the measures which would have the most significant effect on gun crime.

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Re: Never Again: The Fight to prevent massacres is beginning
« Reply #189 on: February 19, 2013, 12:43:51 AM »
Well those won't change anything so they're a good way to get the ball rolling towards their long term goal.

Actually they are driving a few businesses out of Colorado but I have a feeling they'll head for Texas sadly, if they came here I'd love to apply.

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Re: Never Again: The Fight to prevent massacres is beginning
« Reply #190 on: February 19, 2013, 06:22:23 AM »
You think they'll change nothing, basically every think tank or researcher who has looked into gun crime thinks that they will, although not nearly as much as doing the same things nationally would. Fair enough; but I think most people will take their chances with the experts' side of the argument.

And again with the paranoia about long-term goals... when handguns still haven't been banned in New York or Colorado or any of these other states in a few decades, and aren't even close to being banned, we all know you still won't admit you're wrong or drop the fantasy.

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Re: Never Again: The Fight to prevent massacres is beginning
« Reply #191 on: February 19, 2013, 06:30:20 AM »
They've been passed before, never had an effect.     "Experts" can speculate all they want, history has shown otherwise.  Statistics don't have that agenda bias.

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Re: Never Again: The Fight to prevent massacres is beginning
« Reply #192 on: February 19, 2013, 06:38:57 AM »
If strict gun laws make absolutely no difference on gun violence, why do you not see the same per capita gun violence in nations with similar cultures with strict gun laws (ie the UK, Canada)?

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Re: Never Again: The Fight to prevent massacres is beginning
« Reply #193 on: February 19, 2013, 08:59:06 AM »
I don't know, why is the London homicide rate the same as San Diego?  Why is Japans homicide rate half of what the UK's is despite gun control in both?   Maybe it's the people.
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Re: Never Again: The Fight to prevent massacres is beginning
« Reply #194 on: February 19, 2013, 11:04:43 AM »
Democrat makes insanely stupid remark about women & guns on campus.I think Todd Skin has just been usurped!

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So, rapists will run away at the sight of a whistle and women should move around only in rape free safe zones? Don't forget the rapist-repelling call boxes!!

Here's the policy for avoiding rape from the University of Colorado:

What To Do If You Are Attacked

These tips are designed to help you protect yourself on campus, in town, at your home, or while you travel.  These are preventative tips and are designed to instruct you in crime prevention tactics.

Be realistic about your ability to protect yourself.
Your instinct may be to scream, go ahead!  It may startle your attacker and give you an opportunity to run away.
Kick off your shoes if you have time and can't run in them.
Don't take time to look back; just get away.
If your life is in danger, passive resistance may be your best defense.
Tell your attacker that you have a disease or are menstruating.
Vomiting or urinating may also convince the attacker to leave you alone
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Yelling, hitting or biting may give you a chance to escape, do it!
Understand that some actions on your part might lead to more harm
Remember, every emergency situation is different.  Only you can decide which action is most appropriate


So, women of Colorado, you now have to learn to pee at will to frighten off a rapist, tell him you have AIDS or just let the rape happen for your "best defense".Then again, if you hurt yourself fighting off the rapist it's your fault!

I think Salazar should be locked in a room with four rapists and he can defend himself with either a whistle, his penis----or a .38 Special.Which one would he choose, I wonder?  ;)

Wouldn't it be great if rape was unlawful then women wouldn't feel the need to carry a gun for protection at college......oh wait  :-\