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Re: U2 sued for allegedly stealing song (The Fly). Not the Onion
« Reply #75 on: March 04, 2017, 05:38:48 AM »
But seriously.. how big? Worse case scenario they have to part with 5 million and any costs. Pocket change for these boys. And will it damage their brand? Their brand has been damaged for at  10 plus years.

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Re: U2 sued for allegedly stealing song (The Fly). Not the Onion
« Reply #76 on: March 04, 2017, 11:41:45 AM »
They might just choose to settle the case for a couple million bucks and be done with it.

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Re: U2 sued for allegedly stealing song (The Fly). Not the Onion
« Reply #77 on: March 04, 2017, 12:02:27 PM »
Another excuse to delay the album.

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Re: U2 sued for allegedly stealing song (The Fly). Not the Onion
« Reply #78 on: March 04, 2017, 12:59:45 PM »
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But seriously.. how big? Worse case scenario they have to part with 5 million and any costs. Pocket change for these boys. And will it damage their brand? Their brand has been damaged for at  10 plus years.

This is laughable. It won't turn into anything big. The similarities aren't significant enough. Zeppelin won their case and the similarities between their song/the band suing were more marked than The Fly and this song. It won't do any damage to their brand. As far as U2's brand being damaged for 10+ years, in what way? Commercially, they still make crazy amounts of money touring and are considered one of the most successful live acts quite possibly ever. In terms of record sales, yes, those have taken a dive but so have 99% of other artists record sales. Doesn't mean their brands are damaged, though.

They might settle this out of court for a pittance, maybe a million or two or less. No way does any judge rule in this guy's favor.

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Re: U2 sued for allegedly stealing song (The Fly). Not the Onion
« Reply #79 on: March 05, 2017, 04:07:27 AM »
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But seriously.. how big? Worse case scenario they have to part with 5 million and any costs. Pocket change for these boys. And will it damage their brand? Their brand has been damaged for at  10 plus years.

This is laughable. It won't turn into anything big. The similarities aren't significant enough. Zeppelin won their case and the similarities between their song/the band suing were more marked than The Fly and this song. It won't do any damage to their brand. As far as U2's brand being damaged for 10+ years, in what way? Commercially, they still make crazy amounts of money touring and are considered one of the most successful live acts quite possibly ever. In terms of record sales, yes, those have taken a dive but so have 99% of other artists record sales. Doesn't mean their brands are damaged, though.

They might settle this out of court for a pittance, maybe a million or two or less. No way does any judge rule in this guy's favor.

I mean the bono hate that has been much more prevalent in the last 10 years because of the tax, in your face politics and rubbing shoulders with the world's elite etc etcetera. Not trying open up a debate on any of those topics, but just saying whatever this legal case comes to, it will barely register, and unlikely to change the strength of their brand sales live shows.  So pretty much in agreement, although personally I have no idea how this case will pan out so wouldn't comment either way.

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Re: U2 sued for allegedly stealing song (The Fly). Not the Onion
« Reply #80 on: March 05, 2017, 06:12:08 AM »
Thank god U2 don't have you guys on their legal team.

A pub singer threatens to sue (he couldn't afford the lawyer, trust me) and you guys are like "SETTLE FOR 5M AND BE DONE WITH IT!".

U2 themselves won't even be aware of this guys existence and never will.

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Re: U2 sued for allegedly stealing song (The Fly). Not the Onion
« Reply #81 on: March 05, 2017, 08:49:26 AM »
Take him to the cleaners

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Re: U2 sued for allegedly stealing song (The Fly). Not the Onion
« Reply #82 on: March 05, 2017, 11:16:20 AM »
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Thank god U2 don't have you guys on their legal team.

A pub singer threatens to sue (he couldn't afford the lawyer, trust me) and you guys are like "SETTLE FOR 5M AND BE DONE WITH IT!".

U2 themselves won't even be aware of this guys existence and never will.

Nobody's suggesting they give up 5 million that is the figure he's suing for. IF this guy does have credible reason to believe the demo made its way to their studio during AB sessions then can't blame him for having a go, because there definitely is a resemblance no matter how small.

In for a penny, in for a pound. Good luck to the guy.

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Re: U2 sued for allegedly stealing song (The Fly). Not the Onion
« Reply #83 on: March 05, 2017, 12:02:22 PM »
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But seriously.. how big? Worse case scenario they have to part with 5 million and any costs. Pocket change for these boys. And will it damage their brand? Their brand has been damaged for at  10 plus years.

This is laughable. It won't turn into anything big. The similarities aren't significant enough. Zeppelin won their case and the similarities between their song/the band suing were more marked than The Fly and this song. It won't do any damage to their brand. As far as U2's brand being damaged for 10+ years, in what way? Commercially, they still make crazy amounts of money touring and are considered one of the most successful live acts quite possibly ever. In terms of record sales, yes, those have taken a dive but so have 99% of other artists record sales. Doesn't mean their brands are damaged, though.

They might settle this out of court for a pittance, maybe a million or two or less. No way does any judge rule in this guy's favor.

I mean the bono hate that has been much more prevalent in the last 10 years because of the tax, in your face politics and rubbing shoulders with the world's elite etc etcetera. Not trying open up a debate on any of those topics, but just saying whatever this legal case comes to, it will barely register, and unlikely to change the strength of their brand sales live shows.  So pretty much in agreement, although personally I have no idea how this case will pan out so wouldn't comment either way.

I'd say the Bono hate has been more prevalent for 15 years at least. I can remember not being a fan of theirs (back around 2001) and the public feeling generally being "he's a goody two shoes with an ego and won't stop lecturing people." No matter how noble the cause, people don't like being lectured to. The lecturing alone upsets them and then they begin to harshly judge anything else Bono does. Accusations of tax dodging in Ireland? What a bad person! Forget that countless other musicians have setup shop in cheaper countries, too. Forget that U2 do pay significant taxes in Ireland. Bono meets with some unsavory politician? He must be as bad as them! Never mind the fact that he's meeting with them to secure funds for charitable causes and that other musicians have met with shady politicians for their own benefit. And if Bono was ever so much as accused of an affair, people would be quick to judge him for that. Never mind the fact that pretty much every other rock star does it.

Not saying Bono is perfect or that he doesn't deserve some of the criticism he receives. I just think he's held to way too ridiculous of a standard.

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Thank god U2 don't have you guys on their legal team.

A pub singer threatens to sue (he couldn't afford the lawyer, trust me) and you guys are like "SETTLE FOR 5M AND BE DONE WITH IT!".

U2 themselves won't even be aware of this guys existence and never will.

Nobody's suggesting they give up 5 million that is the figure he's suing for. IF this guy does have credible reason to believe the demo made its way to their studio during AB sessions then can't blame him for having a go, because there definitely is a resemblance no matter how small.

In for a penny, in for a pound. Good luck to the guy.

Exactly. I don't see anyone in this thread saying they should give this guy millions of dollars. They shouldn't. If they want to settle and get this thing behind them, no one would fault them for that. They may feel that this could be detrimental to their brand (I don't think it would be) and that alone would be reason to settle.

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Re: U2 sued for allegedly stealing song (The Fly). Not the Onion
« Reply #84 on: March 05, 2017, 03:01:41 PM »
Don't give this clown a dime.

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Re: U2 sued for allegedly stealing song (The Fly). Not the Onion
« Reply #85 on: March 05, 2017, 11:23:21 PM »
I think I can hear a bit of One and Beautiful Day in there too.

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Re: U2 sued for allegedly stealing song (The Fly). Not the Onion
« Reply #86 on: March 07, 2017, 12:37:57 PM »
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But seriously.. how big? Worse case scenario they have to part with 5 million and any costs. Pocket change for these boys. And will it damage their brand? Their brand has been damaged for at  10 plus years.

This is laughable. It won't turn into anything big. The similarities aren't significant enough. Zeppelin won their case and the similarities between their song/the band suing were more marked than The Fly and this song. It won't do any damage to their brand. As far as U2's brand being damaged for 10+ years, in what way? Commercially, they still make crazy amounts of money touring and are considered one of the most successful live acts quite possibly ever. In terms of record sales, yes, those have taken a dive but so have 99% of other artists record sales. Doesn't mean their brands are damaged, though.

They might settle this out of court for a pittance, maybe a million or two or less. No way does any judge rule in this guy's favor.

Good thing for Led Zep all the blues artists they ripped off were dead or they wouldn't have been able to afford the lawyers for their own case. Just saying.

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Re: U2 sued for allegedly stealing song (The Fly). Not the Onion
« Reply #87 on: March 07, 2017, 08:09:35 PM »
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But seriously.. how big? Worse case scenario they have to part with 5 million and any costs. Pocket change for these boys. And will it damage their brand? Their brand has been damaged for at  10 plus years.

This is laughable. It won't turn into anything big. The similarities aren't significant enough. Zeppelin won their case and the similarities between their song/the band suing were more marked than The Fly and this song. It won't do any damage to their brand. As far as U2's brand being damaged for 10+ years, in what way? Commercially, they still make crazy amounts of money touring and are considered one of the most successful live acts quite possibly ever. In terms of record sales, yes, those have taken a dive but so have 99% of other artists record sales. Doesn't mean their brands are damaged, though.

They might settle this out of court for a pittance, maybe a million or two or less. No way does any judge rule in this guy's favor.

Good thing for Led Zep all the blues artists they ripped off were dead or they wouldn't have been able to afford the lawyers for their own case. Just saying.

That's pretty much what I meant. If Zeppelin could get away with their blatant rip offs, U2 doesn't have anything to worry about with the slight similarities between their track and the other guy's.

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Re: U2 sued for allegedly stealing song (The Fly). Not the Onion
« Reply #88 on: March 08, 2017, 03:10:23 AM »
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But seriously.. how big? Worse case scenario they have to part with 5 million and any costs. Pocket change for these boys. And will it damage their brand? Their brand has been damaged for at  10 plus years.

This is laughable. It won't turn into anything big. The similarities aren't significant enough. Zeppelin won their case and the similarities between their song/the band suing were more marked than The Fly and this song. It won't do any damage to their brand. As far as U2's brand being damaged for 10+ years, in what way? Commercially, they still make crazy amounts of money touring and are considered one of the most successful live acts quite possibly ever. In terms of record sales, yes, those have taken a dive but so have 99% of other artists record sales. Doesn't mean their brands are damaged, though.

They might settle this out of court for a pittance, maybe a million or two or less. No way does any judge rule in this guy's favor.

Good thing for Led Zep all the blues artists they ripped off were dead or they wouldn't have been able to afford the lawyers for their own case. Just saying.

That's pretty much what I meant. If Zeppelin could get away with their blatant rip offs, U2 doesn't have anything to worry about with the slight similarities between their track and the other guy's.

Except 'the other guy' is still alive, like Saint1322 just pointed out!

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Re: U2 sued for allegedly stealing song (The Fly). Not the Onion
« Reply #89 on: March 08, 2017, 12:04:54 PM »
Litigiousness in music is already a curse, and has gotten way out of hand.  The idea that anyone is making music that isn't influenced by something that came before it is absurd.