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Offline Johnny Feathers

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Re: U2, Please: Get Up Off Your Knees
« Reply #570 on: October 06, 2017, 11:35:38 AM »
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How does the release of multiple versions of The Best Thing reflect the band's quest for relevancy?  Cover enough different types of music to reach a wider audience (adult rock, pop kids, dance crowd, folk/acoustic fans)?

Or is it just the digital version of an EP?  One of my favorite singles/EPs was Discotheque with its multiple dance remixes and stripped down Holy Joe.  Some of those remixes were so different, i.e. vocals of the Howie B. mix, that I had the impression at the time that maybe they'd been thinking of releasing those versions before settling on the album version.

Maybe it's just because I grew up with hard copies (records, cassettes, CDs), but I have a hard time viewing the multiple releases as an EP and wonder if they're trying to hit different types of Spotify playlist categories (or other streaming and radio categories). 

Or is it as simple as Edge told Rolling Stone, they weren't sure about the mix and went with the one they did at the last minute...  Why then the flurry of versions after?

It would be kind of cool if the band declared it a conscious intent at an experiment or even if they said they wanted to reach different audiences, but it just looks like they weren't fully sure.

I'm not sure what the question is exactly, but U2 have had a tradition of releasing different versions of songs as singles.  Most notably WGRYWH, with a distinctly different instrumentation that was, despite the narrative of the time, pretty well-aimed at the "pop" audience they were seemingly dismissive of.  And on through the Pop singles, or the slight tweaks to singles like Streets or EBTTRT.

As for remixes, I think those are best viewed as outsourcing the content for b-sides to DJs and electronic musicians who could take a song U2 already had, mess with it, and create something new to fill up those singles tracklists.  It removed the pressure for U2 to come up with more original material themselves, which was something they and many other bands would struggle to do.  It could be seen as a shrewd way to jump on the dance music bandwagon, but I don't think the band themselves ever had much input or involvement with those.  Not that there aren't some enjoyable versions there.

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Re: U2, Please: Get Up Off Your Knees
« Reply #571 on: October 08, 2017, 04:27:39 PM »
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How does the release of multiple versions of The Best Thing reflect the band's quest for relevancy?  Cover enough different types of music to reach a wider audience (adult rock, pop kids, dance crowd, folk/acoustic fans)?

Or is it just the digital version of an EP?  One of my favorite singles/EPs was Discotheque with its multiple dance remixes and stripped down Holy Joe.  Some of those remixes were so different, i.e. vocals of the Howie B. mix, that I had the impression at the time that maybe they'd been thinking of releasing those versions before settling on the album version.

Maybe it's just because I grew up with hard copies (records, cassettes, CDs), but I have a hard time viewing the multiple releases as an EP and wonder if they're trying to hit different types of Spotify playlist categories (or other streaming and radio categories). 

Or is it as simple as Edge told Rolling Stone, they weren't sure about the mix and went with the one they did at the last minute...  Why then the flurry of versions after?

It would be kind of cool if the band declared it a conscious intent at an experiment or even if they said they wanted to reach different audiences, but it just looks like they weren't fully sure.

This isn't a new concept for the band, the Fly Video has The Lounge Fly mix intro but the most obvious case is NLOTH which had two versions on the same album in some countries.

Apart from the blatant dance mixes, I find it difficult to like both (or more) versions of the same song, especially when they go acoustic. Is almost as if they're saying that we're not sure whether Adam and Larry actually add anything to the song.

Well, The Fly, Alex Descends, and Fly Lounge Remix were on a physical CD single release, and Lounge was kind of a dance remix.  With the albums No Line, Songs Of Innocence, and now Songs Of Experience they move into digital-only releases that aren't even presented as digital singles, EPs, or collections.  I've yet to leave memories of how things used to be behind, so this four version thing feels like something new and kind of weird for them, though not for these digital times.

I mean, if he wanted to, Edge could start a Bandcamp page and post a new mix every night for a year...

Lounge Fly is a different recording in many places (different vocals, phrasing, and lyrics) as well as extra and alternate guitar lines from memory.

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Re: U2, Please: Get Up Off Your Knees
« Reply #572 on: December 02, 2017, 01:49:06 PM »
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I think this was my favorite discussion in my time on the @U2 forum, as it really delved nicely into the evolution of the band from where they came from to where they're headed now.  Too bad we won't get to discuss the new album...

Well, now we do.

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Re: U2, Please: Get Up Off Your Knees
« Reply #573 on: December 02, 2017, 01:52:06 PM »
Well, to me, with this album ....U2 are up off their knees and flying to the stratosphere!

Cheers,

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Re: U2, Please: Get Up Off Your Knees
« Reply #574 on: December 03, 2017, 07:53:36 AM »
Yep, they are up alright.