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Re: The first single of SOE is...
« Reply #45 on: May 19, 2017, 01:56:28 PM »
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If The Best thing IS the proposed next single...then i have no objection to the band never releasing it all. I think its yet another sub par offering from the band. Id be hacked off if it has got a space on the new album. SO much for the next album being in the same vein as Zooropa :'(

Was 'Boots' supposed to be a return to U2 attempting experimentation ? It was certainly different to the other noughties songs.

Be careful what you wish for.

The only experiment they were conducting with "Boots" is "Can we get people to not notice we are releasing Vertigo again?"

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Re: The first single of SOE is...
« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2017, 01:58:57 PM »
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Knowing U2, "The Best Thing" might be a completely different song from what we've heard in that collab with Kygo.

But next year? Here we go.

The chances of this are pretty much certain. If this version is on the album, then the only album they could release is a full on 4/4 dance album. This was the kygo remix and the album version will be a mix between pop/rock

I hope to god that it isn't the version we heard coming out of Bono's beach house windows.  That was a piece of LiteFM schlock.  At least the Kygo version was SOMETHING, instead of some big puff ball of nothing.

Probably an early draft of some sort, if you could hear the same tune now chances are it's drastically different. Was it a rocker or another EBW ballad?

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Re: The first single of SOE is...
« Reply #47 on: May 19, 2017, 02:06:58 PM »
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Knowing U2, "The Best Thing" might be a completely different song from what we've heard in that collab with Kygo.

But next year? Here we go.

The chances of this are pretty much certain. If this version is on the album, then the only album they could release is a full on 4/4 dance album. This was the kygo remix and the album version will be a mix between pop/rock

I hope to god that it isn't the version we heard coming out of Bono's beach house windows.  That was a piece of LiteFM schlock.  At least the Kygo version was SOMETHING, instead of some big puff ball of nothing.

Probably an early draft of some sort, if you could hear the same tune now chances are it's drastically different. Was it a rocker or another EBW ballad?

EBW is a good example of not going all-in on a song. The way they performed it on MTV is what it should have been on the album.  If you want to do a haunting, spare song about your dead father trying to hold you back, DO IT.  Don't add in pretty pieces to make it a little more middle-of-the-road. 

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Re: The first single of SOE is...
« Reply #48 on: May 19, 2017, 02:11:37 PM »
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If The Best thing IS the proposed next single...then i have no objection to the band never releasing it all. I think its yet another sub par offering from the band. Id be hacked off if it has got a space on the new album. SO much for the next album being in the same vein as Zooropa :'(

Was 'Boots' supposed to be a return to U2 attempting experimentation ? It was certainly different to the other noughties songs.

Be careful what you wish for.

The only experiment they were conducting with "Boots" is "Can we get people to not notice we are releasing Vertigo again?"

The only real resemblance between Boots and Vertigo is the riff.

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Re: The first single of SOE is...
« Reply #49 on: May 19, 2017, 02:13:08 PM »
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If The Best thing IS the proposed next single...then i have no objection to the band never releasing it all. I think its yet another sub par offering from the band. Id be hacked off if it has got a space on the new album. SO much for the next album being in the same vein as Zooropa :'(

Was 'Boots' supposed to be a return to U2 attempting experimentation ? It was certainly different to the other noughties songs.

Be careful what you wish for.

The only experiment they were conducting with "Boots" is "Can we get people to not notice we are releasing Vertigo again?"

The only real resemblance between Boots and Vertigo is the riff.

I'm going to have to agree to disagree there.

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Re: The first single of SOE is...
« Reply #50 on: May 19, 2017, 02:16:48 PM »
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If The Best thing IS the proposed next single...then i have no objection to the band never releasing it all. I think its yet another sub par offering from the band. Id be hacked off if it has got a space on the new album. SO much for the next album being in the same vein as Zooropa :'(

Was 'Boots' supposed to be a return to U2 attempting experimentation ? It was certainly different to the other noughties songs.

Be careful what you wish for.

The only experiment they were conducting with "Boots" is "Can we get people to not notice we are releasing Vertigo again?"

The only real resemblance between Boots and Vertigo is the riff.

I'm going to have to agree to disagree there.

For starters vertigo is a good song Boots is utter gash.

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Re: The first single of SOE is...
« Reply #51 on: May 19, 2017, 02:20:44 PM »
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Knowing U2, "The Best Thing" might be a completely different song from what we've heard in that collab with Kygo.

But next year? Here we go.

The chances of this are pretty much certain. If this version is on the album, then the only album they could release is a full on 4/4 dance album. This was the kygo remix and the album version will be a mix between pop/rock

I hope to god that it isn't the version we heard coming out of Bono's beach house windows.  That was a piece of LiteFM schlock.  At least the Kygo version was SOMETHING, instead of some big puff ball of nothing.

Probably an early draft of some sort, if you could hear the same tune now chances are it's drastically different. Was it a rocker or another EBW ballad?

EBW is a good example of not going all-in on a song. The way they performed it on MTV is what it should have been on the album.  If you want to do a haunting, spare song about your dead father trying to hold you back, DO IT.  Don't add in pretty pieces to make it a little more middle-of-the-road.

I agree, but I think we are long overdue another rocker from U2. Ever since boots we've had really poor attempts at trying to write timeless pop songs. Let's whack out the guitar and delay again Edge and give us some powerful riffs and melodies for SOE

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Re: The first single of SOE is...
« Reply #52 on: May 19, 2017, 02:21:52 PM »
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For starters vertigo is a good song Boots is utter gash.

That's one for sure.

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The only real resemblance between Boots and Vertigo is the riff.

The only real resemblance between Boots and Vertigo is that both have a prominent guitar riff... which, of course, gives the song no hipster street cred amongst the "ambient-only or bust" crowd, but what can you do?
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Re: The first single of SOE is...
« Reply #53 on: May 19, 2017, 02:37:23 PM »
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Knowing U2, "The Best Thing" might be a completely different song from what we've heard in that collab with Kygo.

But next year? Here we go.

The chances of this are pretty much certain. If this version is on the album, then the only album they could release is a full on 4/4 dance album. This was the kygo remix and the album version will be a mix between pop/rock

I hope to god that it isn't the version we heard coming out of Bono's beach house windows.  That was a piece of LiteFM schlock.  At least the Kygo version was SOMETHING, instead of some big puff ball of nothing.

Probably an early draft of some sort, if you could hear the same tune now chances are it's drastically different. Was it a rocker or another EBW ballad?

EBW is a good example of not going all-in on a song. The way they performed it on MTV is what it should have been on the album.  If you want to do a haunting, spare song about your dead father trying to hold you back, DO IT.  Don't add in pretty pieces to make it a little more middle-of-the-road.

I agree, but I think we are long overdue another rocker from U2. Ever since boots we've had really poor attempts at trying to write timeless pop songs. Let's whack out the guitar and delay again Edge and give us some powerful riffs and melodies for SOE

But what is a "rocker" from U2? If a "rocker" has to be Edge with a buzzsaw guitar and Bono shouting "Yeah Yeah" or some such...did U2 ever have a rocker in the 80's? Was SBS a rocker? Was Streets? Was Pride? Imagine that.... Imagine them trying to do something driving and anthemic that wasn't "Yeah yeah yeah rock and roll yeah yeah!". Something that might even have what you'd consider intellectual lyrics and references?

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Re: The first single of SOE is...
« Reply #54 on: May 19, 2017, 04:18:28 PM »
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If The Best thing IS the proposed next single...then i have no objection to the band never releasing it all. I think its yet another sub par offering from the band. Id be hacked off if it has got a space on the new album. SO much for the next album being in the same vein as Zooropa :'(

Was 'Boots' supposed to be a return to U2 attempting experimentation ? It was certainly different to the other noughties songs.

Be careful what you wish for.
It's still better for U2 to experiment than rehash the same concepts repeatedly with each given album.

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Re: The first single of SOE is...
« Reply #55 on: May 21, 2017, 02:47:23 AM »
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But what is a "rocker" from U2? If a "rocker" has to be Edge with a buzzsaw guitar and Bono shouting "Yeah Yeah" or some such...did U2 ever have a rocker in the 80's? Was SBS a rocker? Was Streets? Was Pride? Imagine that.... Imagine them trying to do something driving and anthemic that wasn't "Yeah yeah yeah rock and roll yeah yeah!". Something that might even have what you'd consider intellectual lyrics and references?
I Will Follow? Like a Song...? Out of Control? New Year's Day? I can think of plenty that I'd count as a rocker, though probably not the ones they're best known for, and none that have been decent for a fair while (maybe Beautiful Day at a stretch, Vertigo definitely counts)

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Re: The first single of SOE is...
« Reply #56 on: May 21, 2017, 08:24:28 AM »
I just listened to Kygo,  You're the best thing about me, and I almost feel guilty to say that I don't like the song.  I don't know how much different the album version will be, but that version concerns me.

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Re: The first single of SOE is...
« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2017, 08:54:43 AM »
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But what is a "rocker" from U2? If a "rocker" has to be Edge with a buzzsaw guitar and Bono shouting "Yeah Yeah" or some such...did U2 ever have a rocker in the 80's? Was SBS a rocker? Was Streets? Was Pride? Imagine that.... Imagine them trying to do something driving and anthemic that wasn't "Yeah yeah yeah rock and roll yeah yeah!". Something that might even have what you'd consider intellectual lyrics and references?
I Will Follow? Like a Song...? Out of Control? New Year's Day? I can think of plenty that I'd count as a rocker, though probably not the ones they're best known for, and none that have been decent for a fair while (maybe Beautiful Day at a stretch, Vertigo definitely counts)

Yes, all of those. Even songs like Crumbs from Your Table, City Of Blinding Lights.

Get on Your Boots was their last rocker tune, slightly concerning that "The Miracle" was their best attempt at another one. SOE needs to deliver with another big tune or it could be curtains

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Re: The first single of SOE is...
« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2017, 09:03:13 AM »
I just find that on youtube, Eamon Dunphy speaks about the new U2 song:
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Re: The first single of SOE is...
« Reply #59 on: May 21, 2017, 03:28:11 PM »
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But what is a "rocker" from U2? If a "rocker" has to be Edge with a buzzsaw guitar and Bono shouting "Yeah Yeah" or some such...did U2 ever have a rocker in the 80's? Was SBS a rocker? Was Streets? Was Pride? Imagine that.... Imagine them trying to do something driving and anthemic that wasn't "Yeah yeah yeah rock and roll yeah yeah!". Something that might even have what you'd consider intellectual lyrics and references?
I Will Follow? Like a Song...? Out of Control? New Year's Day? I can think of plenty that I'd count as a rocker, though probably not the ones they're best known for, and none that have been decent for a fair while (maybe Beautiful Day at a stretch, Vertigo definitely counts)

I agree with all of these. My point is that, except for Vertigo, if Bono says something is a "rocker" in the last 10+ years, it's not going to be anything so unique as those sounds. It's going to be edge with a buzzsaw guitar and a lot of Bono shouting. It's like some old man from 1979's attitude of what he thinks "The kids and their rock and roll music" sounds like, coming from the last person on earth who should think that way.