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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #210 on: September 26, 2017, 06:23:10 PM »
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U2 have never been experimental, they have explored the experiments of others and used them to produce their own sound.

Only if you purely associate experimentality with contribution to the entire music scene.

Even so, you can argue that Achtung Baby was partly responsible for bringing sampling to the forefront of popular music, as the technique was moreso involved with hip-hop at the time.  Plus, Edge's varied guitar sounds were unlike that of most other band's... he was quite the innovator in a time where New Wave and Post-Punk dominated radio. It took years for his tones to be replicated in an easy and efficient way, thanks to the advancement of music technology.

But overall, I do concede that U2 have not been especially vital in furthering the overall experimentation of music (if we are talking about the music exclusively and ignoring other aspects of thus band's output, liking touring and whatnot).

However, by nature, U2 were (and hopefully still are) an experimental band. Pursuing a more adventurous sound, even for personal gain, is still experimentation. U2 have toyed with genre-bending, unique instruments and synthesizers, abnormal time-signatures, sampling, etc.

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #211 on: September 27, 2017, 05:18:25 PM »
ATYCLB completed the aesthetic arc of U2's career.  Some very good songs aside, every album since has been a failed attempt to add to, or reopen, a meaningful creative narrative that ended in 2000. 


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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #212 on: September 27, 2017, 05:24:21 PM »
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U2 have never been experimental, they have explored the experiments of others and used them to produce their own sound.

Only if you purely associate experimentality with contribution to the entire music scene.

Even so, you can argue that Achtung Baby was partly responsible for bringing sampling to the forefront of popular music, as the technique was moreso involved with hip-hop at the time.  Plus, Edge's varied guitar sounds were unlike that of most other band's... he was quite the innovator in a time where New Wave and Post-Punk dominated radio. It took years for his tones to be replicated in an easy and efficient way, thanks to the advancement of music technology.

But overall, I do concede that U2 have not been especially vital in furthering the overall experimentation of music (if we are talking about the music exclusively and ignoring other aspects of thus band's output, liking touring and whatnot).

However, by nature, U2 were (and hopefully still are) an experimental band. Pursuing a more adventurous sound, even for personal gain, is still experimentation. U2 have toyed with genre-bending, unique instruments and synthesizers, abnormal time-signatures, sampling, etc.

Does "experimenting" mean trying something that has never been done, or trying something YOU'VE never done? I might "experiment" with LSD or cross-dressing without claiming to have invented them.

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #213 on: September 27, 2017, 07:47:41 PM »
Not sure how Controversial this is, but I always thought it would be cool if U2 went heavy metal and put out a metal record. They'd  probably never do it especially nowadays, but it would come out of left field and really test fan loyalty. Anyone ever think this would be cool?

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #214 on: September 27, 2017, 09:52:40 PM »
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U2 have never been experimental, they have explored the experiments of others and used them to produce their own sound.

Only if you purely associate experimentality with contribution to the entire music scene.

Even so, you can argue that Achtung Baby was partly responsible for bringing sampling to the forefront of popular music, as the technique was moreso involved with hip-hop at the time.  Plus, Edge's varied guitar sounds were unlike that of most other band's... he was quite the innovator in a time where New Wave and Post-Punk dominated radio. It took years for his tones to be replicated in an easy and efficient way, thanks to the advancement of music technology.

But overall, I do concede that U2 have not been especially vital in furthering the overall experimentation of music (if we are talking about the music exclusively and ignoring other aspects of thus band's output, liking touring and whatnot).

However, by nature, U2 were (and hopefully still are) an experimental band. Pursuing a more adventurous sound, even for personal gain, is still experimentation. U2 have toyed with genre-bending, unique instruments and synthesizers, abnormal time-signatures, sampling, etc.

Does "experimenting" mean trying something that has never been done, or trying something YOU'VE never done? I might "experiment" with LSD or cross-dressing without claiming to have invented them.

Ha, well as long as you don't bring a DVD out on the outcome then we're all good.

Back to the point, to be truly experimental you have to produce a new output. U2 have always follwed a trend, their strength has always been that they outdo the artists that inspire and influence them, which must be insanely annoying for said artists.

So, as much as it may seem like a detour from the normal (I'm guessing here) for you to be whacked off your ti*s whilst wearing your best Sunday dress, you're probably not the first person to take a walk on the wild side. So, you are exploring a known substance and dress code, not experimenting them. Now, if you were to tell me you added a gas mask, a Cape, fire and pretended to ride an cloven hoofed animal by sitting on its back whilst steering with a paper plate, then I would concede you were being experimental. It's all about novel outputs.

I'm sure there's better ways of getting my point across, but worryingly I can't think of any right now.  ;D
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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #215 on: September 27, 2017, 10:18:21 PM »
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U2 have never been experimental, they have explored the experiments of others and used them to produce their own sound.

Only if you purely associate experimentality with contribution to the entire music scene.

Even so, you can argue that Achtung Baby was partly responsible for bringing sampling to the forefront of popular music, as the technique was moreso involved with hip-hop at the time.  Plus, Edge's varied guitar sounds were unlike that of most other band's... he was quite the innovator in a time where New Wave and Post-Punk dominated radio. It took years for his tones to be replicated in an easy and efficient way, thanks to the advancement of music technology.

But overall, I do concede that U2 have not been especially vital in furthering the overall experimentation of music (if we are talking about the music exclusively and ignoring other aspects of thus band's output, liking touring and whatnot).

However, by nature, U2 were (and hopefully still are) an experimental band. Pursuing a more adventurous sound, even for personal gain, is still experimentation. U2 have toyed with genre-bending, unique instruments and synthesizers, abnormal time-signatures, sampling, etc.

Does "experimenting" mean trying something that has never been done, or trying something YOU'VE never done? I might "experiment" with LSD or cross-dressing without claiming to have invented them.

I think that the term is dependent on context. U2 are experimental for trying new things for themselves. U2 are not especially experimental from a broader, more historical view of music as a whole.

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #216 on: September 28, 2017, 01:16:00 AM »
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U2 have never been experimental, they have explored the experiments of others and used them to produce their own sound.

Only if you purely associate experimentality with contribution to the entire music scene.

Even so, you can argue that Achtung Baby was partly responsible for bringing sampling to the forefront of popular music, as the technique was moreso involved with hip-hop at the time.  Plus, Edge's varied guitar sounds were unlike that of most other band's... he was quite the innovator in a time where New Wave and Post-Punk dominated radio. It took years for his tones to be replicated in an easy and efficient way, thanks to the advancement of music technology.

But overall, I do concede that U2 have not been especially vital in furthering the overall experimentation of music (if we are talking about the music exclusively and ignoring other aspects of thus band's output, liking touring and whatnot).

However, by nature, U2 were (and hopefully still are) an experimental band. Pursuing a more adventurous sound, even for personal gain, is still experimentation. U2 have toyed with genre-bending, unique instruments and synthesizers, abnormal time-signatures, sampling, etc.

Does "experimenting" mean trying something that has never been done, or trying something YOU'VE never done? I might "experiment" with LSD or cross-dressing without claiming to have invented them.

I think that the term is dependent on context. U2 are experimental for trying new things for themselves. U2 are not especially experimental from a broader, more historical view of music as a whole.

Yeah that's pretty much what I was trying to say in the post above but in many more words  :)

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #217 on: September 28, 2017, 06:57:04 AM »
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ATYCLB completed the aesthetic arc of U2's career.  Some very good songs aside, every album since has been a failed attempt to add to, or reopen, a meaningful creative narrative that ended in 2000.

Spot on. U2 could have ended their career perfectly on that album and tour in my opinion.

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #218 on: September 28, 2017, 10:49:01 AM »
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ATYCLB completed the aesthetic arc of U2's career.  Some very good songs aside, every album since has been a failed attempt to add to, or reopen, a meaningful creative narrative that ended in 2000. 



I've felt this way for a while as well.

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #219 on: September 29, 2017, 12:44:20 PM »
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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #220 on: September 29, 2017, 01:19:11 PM »
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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #221 on: September 29, 2017, 02:37:56 PM »
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Bono needs a personal trainer.

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He needs to be slim enough to float on down for what he desires

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #222 on: September 29, 2017, 03:36:10 PM »
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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #223 on: September 29, 2017, 04:37:09 PM »
That's a good one 8)

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #224 on: October 01, 2017, 09:33:59 AM »
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Bono needs a personal trainer.

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