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Would you prefer U2/Bono keep politics out of the music

Absolutely yes.  Stay away from it completly
6 (12.5%)
Yes on politics but I'm ok with bringing attention to a cause
11 (22.9%)
Don't care either way
7 (14.6%)
No. U2 having a microphone gives them the right to voice thier opinion over others
21 (43.8%)
No. If Bono/U2 don't tell me how to think I wouldn't be able to figure it out on my own.
3 (6.3%)

Total Members Voted: 47

Voting closed: February 24, 2018, 05:19:58 PM

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Offline Hustoninut

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U2 and Politics Take the poll
« on: January 25, 2018, 05:19:58 PM »
Vote on whether or not you are a fan of U2 being involved in politics or if they should stay out of it as far as the band and the music is concerned. 
« Last Edit: January 25, 2018, 05:20:46 PM by Hustoninut »



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Re: U2 and Politics Take the poll
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2018, 06:47:45 PM »
Given the live version of Sunday Bloody Sunday from R&H was what drew me into U2, the politics has been a pretty important ingredient. What did Adam say in R&H before Bullet...

If they didn't do the politics stuff, we would have another 50 songs about Ali.

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Re: U2 and Politics Take the poll
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2018, 08:45:55 AM »
Maybe it's just me, but there seems to be bias tilt in all the response options.

Sure, U2 can say whatever they please.  Everyone has the right to express their opinions.  Artists do it for living.

That being said, in music, for example, you know you're probably going to hear more political songs from Rage Against the Machine than you would with Debbie Gibson.  With U2, you can expect there will be some politics, from time to time.  Always has.  I'm a grown adult -- I can decide whether or not to agree. 

It's not like I listen to Dr. Dre's The Chronic and think that all the topics covered there are something I need to believe in or buy into.  It's music.  It's art.   

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Re: U2 and Politics Take the poll
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2018, 05:07:51 PM »
 I won't vote because of the bias in the poll.  U2 have been political forever and I hope they never change.  In fact, I wish Bono hadn't spent most of this century equivocating about US politics in order to get Republicans on board with debt relief and Aids assistance. 

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Re: U2 and Politics Take the poll
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2018, 11:10:03 AM »
Although I voted for "No. U2 having a microphone gives them the right to voice thier opinion over others" I perceive bias in the wording of the survey so if you want a real answer maybe try this again in a neutral way Hustoninut.

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Re: U2 and Politics Take the poll
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2018, 11:42:00 AM »
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Although I voted for "No. U2 having a microphone gives them the right to voice thier opinion over others" I perceive bias in the wording of the survey so if you want a real answer maybe try this again in a neutral way Hustoninut.

I also voted for this option but with objections over the wording. The correct wording would be more like: “No. U2 have a right to express their opinion just like anybody else.”

I realize that because of their art U2 have a bigger platform than most, and some might feel that’s unfair, which is probably what you’re getting at with your wording.

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Re: U2 and Politics Take the poll
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2018, 02:56:57 PM »
Hate to point out the obvious but we don’t get a vote in this.  And...they have been political for 42 years they are not stoping

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Re: U2 and Politics Take the poll
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2018, 03:40:19 PM »
Of course they have the right to say what they want, that's what being an artist is. I just tend to dislike the political songs, pretty much all of them. Never a huge fan of Bullet, American Soul is the only song I skip on SOE. I know there are political undertones in a lot of their songs, but the obvious ones are usually a dislike for me. I'd much rather hear songs about other universal themes.

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Re: U2 and Politics Take the poll
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2018, 07:14:28 PM »
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Of course they have the right to say what they want, that's what being an artist is. I just tend to dislike the political songs, pretty much all of them. Never a huge fan of Bullet, American Soul is the only song I skip on SOE. I know there are political undertones in a lot of their songs, but the obvious ones are usually a dislike for me. I'd much rather hear songs about other universal themes.
that sucks your missing some of their best music

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Re: U2 and Politics Take the poll
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2018, 11:19:07 AM »
"...voice their opinion over others". With that addition, I can't vote for any of them. They're voicing their opinion in the medium that they've earned after 40 years of work, not over others.

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Re: U2 and Politics Take the poll
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2018, 12:58:56 PM »
OK... Thank you for everyone that has "voted" and replied.  Yes!!!  Of course the answers were biased.  That was the point. :)  I was simply trying to show that U2 has moved from a band whose music united millions, everyone of us here is here because we love the music, to just another, "stuck in a moment" political activist group that is dividing us.  Look at the votes... they are divisive.  Yes... U2 has been a political band since Boy, but boy oh boy have they taken it to a new level.  The past was Bono, taking 10 minutes out of a concert to plug RED or get water to African countries, or to free a political prisoner.  Things that may have only divided a less than 1% of the population from the cause.  That was fine.  Now, however, not a moment goes by where "the message" is not part of the act.  That's sad.  It's sad because U2's music and lyrics have been a huge part of my life. That's because the translation of the songs were left up to me and they had meaning in my life.  For those who say U2 is a "political band, deal with it," I'm sorry, but you're wrong.  If you all make your personal top 10 list of U2 songs ever you won't find the politics in hardly any of them.  What I mean by that is most people don't like the songs for the message.  For example, Sunday Bloody Sunday is a pretty darn hard political song.  But seriously... How many of you when you hear it think, "Darn those British paratroopers!!!  I can't stand England!  Long live the I.R.A."  Really???  How many?  When you hear "Raised by Wolves" are you ticked off that whoever it was that planted the car bomb have never been brought to justice?  NO!!!  You're not. 

SEE!!!  Divisive.  So my little poll here was nothing more than a social experiment and it proved what I thought.  Some of us agree with U2 that President Trump is terrible and a racist and hate filled, etc. etc. and some of us don't believe that at all.  We have been divided by the band that has preached unity over and over again.  Finally, I just have to ask... To all of you who are on the side that believe Trump is the worst thing ever, the following questions???
Is it getting better? Or do you feel the same?  Does it make it easier on you now, you've got someone to blame? 

Here's to hoping U2 gets out of their own way and unites us with music and stops dividing us with words.  Until then.  Rock on!  U2 still the greatest ever.
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Re: U2 and Politics Take the poll
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2018, 08:14:58 PM »
Guys - we avoid getting into political discussion and this is bordering on going the wrong way (hence I’ve edited)

Hustoninet - can I suggest you check out our forum rules if you haven’t already.

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Re: U2 and Politics Take the poll
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2018, 12:36:51 AM »
Sorry.  We can remove the whole post if needed.  I for one won't express any additional political opinions.  Interesting though how it's been argued by so many that U2 is and always has been political and yet the rules in the U2 Forum are to remain non-political.  Why?  Because clearly politics is a dividing topic and division shouldn't be the goal or the result.    I wish Bono could understand that.  Again... Sorry this headed in that direction, it wasn't my intent.

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Re: U2 and Politics Take the poll
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2018, 03:47:49 AM »
I would say that talking dettached about political approach to art instead of our on own political preferences can be a valuable conversation based on existence of it, as for the topic, I find it interesting that U2 are not the only ones so much attached to their political ideology in their music now, many other artists doing the same, to me what is really daring and courageous at this age, and even counter-cultural and punk rock thing to do, is to go against the grain, do the opposite, perhaps turning to politics, but actually sending a message about having faith in good outcome, not to fear about the future, but to trust in God. So easy to be played by the outside noises of the world, if someone else is dividing us, be it governments or artists, why being like them and repeat their deeds , instead it can be us who are turning the tide, there is a reason it's more challenging to turn within and listen to our own voice, a voice that is a lot more uniting and harmonious, that is to me the daring thing to do now, especially for artists.

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Re: U2 and Politics Take the poll
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2018, 02:29:04 PM »
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I would say that talking dettached about political approach to art instead of our on own political preferences can be a valuable conversation based on existence of it, as for the topic, I find it interesting that U2 are not the only ones so much attached to their political ideology in their music now, many other artists doing the same, to me what is really daring and courageous at this age, and even counter-cultural and punk rock thing to do, is to go against the grain, do the opposite, perhaps turning to politics, but actually sending a message about having faith in good outcome, not to fear about the future, but to trust in God. So easy to be played by the outside noises of the world, if someone else is dividing us, be it governments or artists, why being like them and repeat their deeds , instead it can be us who are turning the tide, there is a reason it's more challenging to turn within and listen to our own voice, a voice that is a lot more uniting and harmonious, that is to me the daring thing to do now, especially for artists.

I agree with a lot of what you said Sunchild.  It would be extremely interesting thing to see an artist/band/singer take the "against the popular opinion" and see how that is received mainstream.  Imagine what would have happened at the Grammy's last week if some Hip-Hop artist came out and started rapping about how great this last year has been for the economy of the U.S. and tried to start a "build a wall" chant.  It would have been "counter-culture, punk-rock" to do, for sure, but they probably wouldn't have made it off the stage or out of the building. It sure would have been entertaining though.  : )
Another example and why I have an actual concern about U2.  This past year I finally had the chance to go see Roger Waters in Las Vegas.  Pink Floyd has been a distant 2nd or 3rd behind U2 as far as music that I grew up with.  I decided to skip the Joshua Tree tour and go see Waters because I had never seen him live before and I knew I would be seeing U2 again this year.  I'm SOOO sorry that I did it.  The music was still the music, the guitar still had the same haunting deep sounds, and the voice was still there, but the message was unbearable.  Here was a rock icon, playing to a stadium of people, that typically would have been sold out, but now wasn't because he had turned away from his original message and tried to define another's agenda.  There were actually moments where when video was shown on the great big screen, you could here the audible displeasure of people like me, who had spent over $1,000 to get to this concert.  It should have been a hi-light of my music experiences.  Instead, I just couldn't wait until it was over.  If it were a tangible product I would have returned it and demanded a refund.  I am just worried that we may be in for the same experience with U2's tour.  I really hope not, but from what has been happening lately it wouldn't surprise me.  I for one, just feel if someone, anyone, would like to hold an anti-government rally, should be able to do that anytime they want and I would defend their right AS AMERICANS in America to do so.  If they wanted to invite a band like U2 to come to this rally then by all means... Go for it.  The turn out would be incredible.  But, when I pay my money to go to a concert, the last thing I want it to attend is a political rally.  It should be a time to put the typical cares of the world at the door... An escape from it all and a time to get lost in the memories of the music and the brilliance of the show.  Sure hoping that we end up getting a bit more of the artist and less of the activist at the concerts.  Thanks for your reply. I thought it was quite an insightful take on it all.