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Offline Vox

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American Soul
« on: February 08, 2018, 07:03:10 PM »
I quite like it.  Ive seen it disparaged here and there among U2 fans.  I dig it lots.  Kind of overlooked on this message board, what with the forum sabbatical and whatnot.  Thoughts?



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Re: American Soul
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2018, 08:13:20 PM »
I am not a huge fan of that album but I think that American soul along with quite a lot of the SOI and SOE songs would lend themselves to a cracking live performance.   I think I would probably enjoy them much more in a live show.

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Re: American Soul
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2018, 08:53:08 PM »
I'm sorry, but American Soul is weak, (not even close to the pantheon of BTBS or SBS or NYD) especially lyrically, as is a lot of S&E.  I REALLY wanted to like it.  Truly.  Have listened to it 30 some times, but just sticks out as... well as Quincy Jones, shaking my head. 

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Re: American Soul
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2018, 10:25:19 PM »
Fair enough responses.  I'm not a huge fan of "Songs of Innocence," but I liked "Volcano."  Tried to listen to "Volcano" tonight and couldn't make it all the way through.  Loved "XXX" on the Kendrick Lamar album.  My 19-year-old, hip-hop-infused son who liked "XXX" and didn't mind "Volcano" doesn't endorse this song, and a lot of U2 fans seem to dismiss it.  But it carries me away.  All the way through Bono sounding agitated with the mmmfing through the buildup to the Refujesus.  I know I seem to be in the minority, but I'm caught up in the vibe.  One thing I like about the latter-day U2 is the chant-thing, they've got going on.  One of the unexpected highlights for me. 

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Re: American Soul
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2018, 11:15:02 PM »
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Fair enough responses.  I'm not a huge fan of "Songs of Innocence," but I liked "Volcano."  Tried to listen to "Volcano" tonight and couldn't make it all the way through.  Loved "XXX" on the Kendrick Lamar album.  My 19-year-old, hip-hop-infused son who liked "XXX" and didn't mind "Volcano" doesn't endorse this song, and a lot of U2 fans seem to dismiss it.  But it carries me away.  All the way through Bono sounding agitated with the mmmfing through the buildup to the Refujesus.  I know I seem to be in the minority, but I'm caught up in the vibe.  One thing I like about the latter-day U2 is the chant-thing, they've got going on.  One of the unexpected highlights for me.

Volcano was one of the tracks on SOI that I didn't mind.  I don't go out of my way to play it but I don't skip it either.  I really found the refujesus thing just did not connect with me in any shape, way or form but it doesn't really surprise me that Bono would write that.  I think a lot of it just sounds very samey.  I would hope the live versions would just have more rawness to them. 

I just connect way better with their much older music, for me that had a lot more magic, it carries many memories and the sonic landscapes are more interesting and beautiful to my ears.     

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Re: American Soul
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2018, 01:10:50 AM »
"refu-jesus" aside, the song is good.

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Re: American Soul
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2018, 05:05:53 AM »
A weak (and re-hash) chorus hurts a good song. Never hated the song, The Showman is my least favourite off SOE.

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Re: American Soul
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2018, 07:51:28 AM »
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The Showman is my least favourite off SOE.
Don't get how 'American Soul' gets so much flack while 'The Showman' gets so much praise...  I mean, I can see how 'The Showman' is superior lyrically but, musically?  'American Soul' rips it to shreds...  Both the 'Innocence' & 'Experience' albums, for me, don't have enough heavy tracks and if it weren't for 'American Soul' & 'Volcano', respectively...  the albums would be significantly weaker, in my opinion...:-)

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Re: American Soul
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2018, 04:30:43 PM »
I think it's an ok song that could have been great if 3 thing were changed:

1. Drop the Refu-jesus thing. I'm sure it sounded like a good idea at the time but its just too lame... sorry
2. Make the chorus more interesting. It's not horrible but definitely not great either.
3. The drums. They are just way too ordinary for a song like this that needs to be stomping.

I actually think the main riff, the verse and the bridge (except the refujesus part) are amazing but the above factors keep the song down.

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Re: American Soul
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2018, 05:02:28 PM »
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The Showman is my least favourite off SOE.
Don't get how 'American Soul' gets so much flack while 'The Showman' gets so much praise...  I mean, I can see how 'The Showman' is superior lyrically but, musically?  'American Soul' rips it to shreds...  Both the 'Innocence' & 'Experience' albums, for me, don't have enough heavy tracks and if it weren't for 'American Soul' & 'Volcano', respectively...  the albums would be significantly weaker, in my opinion...:-)

Agreed. I wish they'd gone with a much heavier sound both for The Showman and for Red Flag Day.

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Re: American Soul
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2018, 11:08:05 PM »
It's one of my favorite songs off the album. It's a song calling to march, calling to focus and pinpointed direction. It's one of the songs I come back to most often from the album. It's rock trying to call America back to itself in an age where rock is the past. Because it's no longer the relevant form of musical communication doesn't mean it's not honest and accurate.