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Re: Songs Of Experience sales in the United States
« Reply #135 on: April 28, 2018, 09:29:38 AM »
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I think you can stop now. This is painful. Report back if you have any good news.

Is there any chance sales will pick up with the tour?
... I guess I doubt it. Only the hard cores are going anyway. We already bought the album.
No. Don't stop. I've been enjoying these updates and am curious to see if it picks up when the tour is underway.

Thanks for the updates Wons

I'll keep it up just because I'm naturally curious about U2's sales and this thread is a good place to compile and store this sales information. I think we should get sales information next week, but I don't know if will get information for this past weeks sales. That may remain a question mark, although we know it was lower than the previous weeks sales. There are actually two album charts that the album is on, one for rock albums and one for alternative albums. The album decline from the previous week on both charts.

ROCK ALBUM SALES

TW LW 2W WOC Title Artist
1 Hot Shot Debut 1 Ember  - Breaking Benjamin
2 New 1 The Tree Of Forgiveness  - John Prine
3 47 18 69 Hardwired...To Self-Destruct  - Metallica
4 New 1 Ledger (EP)  - Ledger
5 6 1 43 Evolve  - Imagine Dragons
6 7 19 23 Diamonds  - Elton John
7 4 – 2 Revamp: Reimagining The Songs Of Elton John & Bernie Taupin  - Various Artists
8 1 – 2 America  - Thirty Seconds To Mars
9 11 5 6 Decades  - Nightwish
10 9 3 23 From The Fires  - Greta Van Fleet
11 10 2 4 Boarding House Reach  - Jack White
12 16 12 52 Guardians Of The Galaxy, Vol. 2: Awesome Mix Vol. 2  - Soundtrack
13 21 17 6 Tearing At The Seams  - Nathaniel Rateliff & The Night Sweats
14 20 13 6 Firepower  - Judas Priest
15 13 6 6 Both Sides Of The Sky  - Jimi Hendrix
16 5 – 2 Find A Light  - Blackberry Smoke
17 15 10 20 A Decade Of Destruction  - Five Finger Death Punch
18 22 29 42 Chain Breaker  - Zach Williams
19 17 15 5 I'll Be Your Girl  - The Decemberists
20 New 1 Welcome To Bonkers  - Nekrogoblikon
21 12 – 2 Elvis Presley: The Searcher (Soundtrack)  - Elvis Presley
22 36 28 152 Blurryface  - twenty one pilots
23 24 23 9 By The Way, I Forgive You - Brandi Carlile
24 New 1 Evil Spirits  - The Damned
25 2 – 2 Erase Me  - Underoath
26 Re-Entry 18 Carry Fire  - Robert Plant
27 New 1 Ruiner  - nothing,nowhere.
28 New 1 The Other  - King Tuff
29 New 1 Front And Center: Live From New York  - Beth Hart
30 Re-Entry 37 Woodstock  - Portugal. The Man
31 37 27 6 Outsider  - Three Days Grace
32 New 1 Come Hell (EP)  - Dead Crown
33 45 39 8 Nation Of Two  - Vance Joy
34 40 11 7 Whistle Down The Wind  - Joan Baez
35 29 34 20 Songs Of Experience  - U2
36 31 24 5 Stone Temple Pilots (2018)  - Stone Temple Pilots
37 Re-Entry 41 One More Light  - Linkin Park
38 33 21 22 Atomic Blonde  - Soundtrack
39 Re-Entry 27 After Laughter  - Paramore
40 43 36 24 Sweet Southern Sugar  - Kid Rock
41 New 1 Smalls Change (Meditations Upon Ageing) - Derek Smalls
42 44 30 13 M A N I A  - Fall Out Boy
43 New 1 Pinned  - A Place To Bury Strangers
44 30 35 6 American Utopia  - David Byrne
45 New 1 The Lookout  - Laura Veirs
46 3 – 2 Sister Cities  - The Wonder Years
47 38 4 3 No Mercy In This Land  - Ben Harper And Charlie Musselwhite
48 8 – 2 The Shadow Theory  - Kamelot
49 New 1 Juliana Hatfield Sings Olivia Newton-John  - Juliana Hatfield
50 New 1 Baby Driver, Volume 2: The Score For A Score  - Soundtrack




ALTERNATIVE ALBUM SALES

TW LW 2W WOC Title Artist
1 New 1 Ember  - Breaking Benjamin
2 New 1 Ledger (EP)  - Ledger
3 3 1 43 Evolve  - Imagine Dragons
4 1 – 2 America  - Thirty Seconds To Mars
5 4 2 4 Boarding House Reach  - Jack White
6 10 7 5 Tearing At The Seams  - Nathaniel Rateliff & The Night Sweats
7 7 5 5 I'll Be Your Girl  - The Decemberists
8 21 15 152 Blurryface  - twenty one pilots
9 New 1 Evil Spirits  - The Damned
10 New 1 Ruiner  - nothing,nowhere.
11 5 25 30 Melodrama  - Lorde
12 New 1 The Other  - King Tuff
13 Re-Entry 30 Woodstock  - Portugal. The Man
14 22 14 6 Outsider  - Three Days Grace
15 Re-Entry 7 Nation Of Two  - Vance Joy
16 14 18 20 Songs Of Experience  - U2
17 16 11 5 Stone Temple Pilots (2018)  - Stone Temple Pilots
18 Re-Entry 38 One More Light  - Linkin Park
19 18 9 19 Atomic Blonde  - Soundtrack
20 Re-Entry 24 After Laughter  - Paramore
21 25 16 13 M A N I A  - Fall Out Boy
22 New 1 Pinned  - A Place To Bury Strangers
23 15 19 6 American Utopia  - David Byrne
24 2 – 2 Sister Cities  - The Wonder Years
25 New 1 Juliana Hatfield Sings Olivia Newton-John  - Juliana Hatfield


On the Rock Album Sales chart, the album declined from #29 to #35. On the Alternative album sales chart the album decline from #14 to #16.

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Re: Songs Of Experience sales in the United States
« Reply #136 on: April 28, 2018, 09:39:18 AM »
Please do not stop. I enjoy the updates and am curious about how the tour starting will influence some to buy the album or not.

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Re: Songs Of Experience sales in the United States
« Reply #137 on: April 28, 2018, 10:26:15 AM »
I wasn't really objecting to your posts, Wons, sorry I phrased it that way. It's nice that you're doing it. I'm just griping.

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Re: Songs Of Experience sales in the United States
« Reply #138 on: April 29, 2018, 08:46:16 AM »
Ok, I got a very close estimate for sales this past week based on two exact figures reported for two other albums on the Rock album sales chart that are at #32 and #36. The number 32 album sold just over 1,400 and the number 36 album sold just under 1,200. So I would estimate that SONGS OF EXPERIENCE sold about 1,250 copies. As far as chart position, I think this means SONGS OF EXPERIENCE has dropped off the chart. In most recent weeks, the #200 album sold more than 1,250 copies. I think the tour and the new single "Love is bigger than anything in its way" will bring the album back onto the chart.



Each week of sales so far, with chart position and sales.

01. (#1) 179,772
02. (#6) 32,307
03. (#19) 21,234
04. (#19) 14,028
05. (#23) 5,717
06. (#23) 4,310
07. (#39) 3,549
08. (#57) 2,894
09. (#51) 3,584
10. (#52) 2,774
11. (#84) 2,119
12. (#114) 1,730
13. (#55) 3,257
14. (#130) 1,657
15. (#35) 4,976
16. (#63) 2,705
17. (#115) 1,882
18. (#170) 1,529
19. (#124) 1,754
20. ( --- )   1,218

Total sales after 20 weeks in the United States is 292,996. This includes BOTH physical and digital copies.
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Re: Songs Of Experience sales in the United States
« Reply #139 on: April 30, 2018, 02:57:31 PM »
It is going to be difficult for the tour to give the album any bounce when they aren't playing some of the best songs from it. Really guys? Where in the hell is The Little Things?

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Re: Songs Of Experience sales in the United States
« Reply #140 on: April 30, 2018, 05:11:01 PM »
It's interesting that Timberlake's album has only sold 500,000 copies -- hasn't been certified as a million-seller yet. So it's not just U2 that's seeing a dramatic drop-off in sales.

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Re: Songs Of Experience sales in the United States
« Reply #141 on: April 30, 2018, 09:37:45 PM »
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It is going to be difficult for the tour to give the album any bounce when they aren't playing some of the best songs from it. Really guys? Where in the hell is The Little Things?

The tour has not started yet. If your talking about rehearsals, then that should only be posted in the spoiler thread in the tour section. Personally I'm not looking at any rehearsal stuff or set-list when the tour starts. I want my first show on this tour to be a surprise.

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« Reply #142 on: April 30, 2018, 09:50:39 PM »
A big sales jump this week for the album as the tour is about to begin. Songs Of Experience sold 1,218 copies last week, but this week sees a big sales increase to 2,044 copies sold and a position of #151 on the Top 200 albums sales only chart.


Each week of sales so far, with chart position and sales.

01. (#1) 179,772
02. (#6) 32,307
03. (#19) 21,234
04. (#19) 14,028
05. (#23) 5,717
06. (#23) 4,310
07. (#39) 3,549
08. (#57) 2,894
09. (#51) 3,584
10. (#52) 2,774
11. (#84) 2,119
12. (#114) 1,730
13. (#55) 3,257
14. (#130) 1,657
15. (#35) 4,976
16. (#63) 2,705
17. (#115) 1,882
18. (#170) 1,529
19. (#124) 1,754
20. (#--- ) 1,218
21. (#151) 2,044

Total sales after 21 weeks in the United States is 295,040. This includes BOTH physical and digital copies.
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Re: Songs Of Experience sales in the United States
« Reply #143 on: April 30, 2018, 10:15:19 PM »
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It's interesting that Timberlake's album has only sold 500,000 copies -- hasn't been certified as a million-seller yet. So it's not just U2 that's seeing a dramatic drop-off in sales.

Actually his album has only sold 379,000 copies to date in the United States, both physical and digital copies. The other 162,000 come from streaming and individual digital track downloads. 1,500 streams of a song from the album equals one album sold. 10 individual track downloads equals 1 album sold. But it is the second biggest selling album since the start of the year in January, in the United States. It is the biggest selling album of the year to be released in 2018. But then again, were only 16 weeks into 2018, nearly 1/3 of the year.

Justin Timberlakes new album "Man of The Woods" has seen it sales cool down and was at #74 with 3,175 copies sold this week.
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Re: Songs Of Experience sales in the United States
« Reply #144 on: May 07, 2018, 05:11:36 PM »
So it appears that the start of the tour may have kept Songs Of Experience sales steady this week as it was able to sell 93 copies more than last week with a total of 2,137. By keeping its sales steady, its able to vault on the top 200 album sales chart from #151 to #85! Last week was record store week so a lot of albums were generating higher sales. Sales across the board are down this week, but it appears the start of the tour helped Songs Of Experience avoid that decline.


Each week of sales so far, with chart position and sales.

01. (#1) 179,772
02. (#6) 32,307
03. (#19) 21,234
04. (#19) 14,028
05. (#23) 5,717
06. (#23) 4,310
07. (#39) 3,549
08. (#57) 2,894
09. (#51) 3,584
10. (#52) 2,774
11. (#84) 2,119
12. (#114) 1,730
13. (#55) 3,257
14. (#130) 1,657
15. (#35) 4,976
16. (#63) 2,705
17. (#115) 1,882
18. (#170) 1,529
19. (#124) 1,754
20. (#---  ) 1,218
21. (#151) 2,044
22. (#85) 2,137

Total sales after 22 weeks in the United States is 297,177. This includes BOTH physical and digital copies.

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« Reply #145 on: May 15, 2018, 01:23:05 AM »
Songs Of Experience this week rises on the chart to #67 from #85 and also sees a sales increase of nearly 700 copies. This is enough to finally put Songs Of Experience over the 300,000 in sales mark 23 weeks after release in the United States. Total sales in the United States are now 300,001, which includes both physical and digital copies.



Each week of sales so far, with chart position and sales.

01. (#1) 179,772
02. (#6) 32,307
03. (#19) 21,234
04. (#19) 14,028
05. (#23) 5,717
06. (#23) 4,310
07. (#39) 3,549
08. (#57) 2,894
09. (#51) 3,584
10. (#52) 2,774
11. (#84) 2,119
12. (#114) 1,730
13. (#55) 3,257
14. (#130) 1,657
15. (#35) 4,976
16. (#63) 2,705
17. (#115) 1,882
18. (#170) 1,529
19. (#124) 1,754
20. (#---  ) 1,218
21. (#151) 2,044
22. (#85) 2,137
23. (#67) 2,824

Total sales after 23 weeks in the United States is 300,001. This includes BOTH physical and digital copies.

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Re: Songs Of Experience sales in the United States
« Reply #146 on: May 15, 2018, 09:21:15 AM »
Are you getting this information from the Billboard 200 chart?

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Re: Songs Of Experience sales in the United States
« Reply #147 on: May 15, 2018, 10:01:52 AM »
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Folks. I'm 34. I don't buy music. Its just a waste of money in general. I have an apple music account and listen to  the album there. If I had money to burn, I might have a record player and get a copy. But I don't like collecting stuff anymore. So...thats a bit pointless too.

So no point looking at sales. I presume most people are like me. Look at streams mind you.

Unfortunately, based on youtube, U2's streams for their new music are very low. U2's best performance vs other artist recorded music is still with album sales despite how small the figures are compared to albums released years and decades ago.


On a side issue:

I understand your reasoning for you personally for not purchasing music, plus given what has happened with technology and the internet. But I think artist deserve to be paid for their work. When I purchased Achtung Baby On Compact Disc back in November 1991, it was $15.99 + whatever tax. Adjusted for inflation into 2018 prices, that is $29.21, + whatever tax. The artist deserve to be paid for their work and they used to be paid for their work.

Imagine suddenly not being paid for the work that you do, or only being paid a fraction, maybe 10% of what you used to be paid. How would that effect you and the others like you?

Despite what is fair, technology and the internet seem to have permanently ruined the fair payment of artist for their recorded work. Its just too easy to obtain the music for free thanks to technology and none of the attempts to redress the problem have worked. Plus it is now culturally ingrained that there is nothing wrong with not paying for recorded music.

They may deserve to be paid but how much?  Your Achtung Baby example is not really relevant.  Before the advent of recorded music, there were relatively few “professional” musicians.  Most people who were entertained by music were entertained by music they made themselves or music that was made by their family and friends.  The 1930s to the present-ish may be a brief period of time when a significant number of people could get filthy rich by making and selling recorded music, much as U2 has.  I’m not sure that ever really made sense.  It was an artifact of a publishing business model that is now being disrupted by technology.  The era of dreaming of making it big in an all or nothing way is ending.  On the other hand, there is perhaps more opportunity for a passionate musician to make a small or moderate living off live performances, merchandise, and streaming revenue.  I realize the streaming model is not really doing much for any musicians right now but it may (hopefully) evolve to that point.  I’m in my 50s and I really don’t like collecting cluttering objects either.  Its just so much paper and plastic waste.


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Re: Songs Of Experience sales in the United States
« Reply #148 on: May 15, 2018, 11:51:56 AM »
I don't understand the clutter objections. People are talking about buying record players? Nice if you're an audiophile but for the rest of us, just put it on your preferred device. If you're listening for free, you can license it properly. Ok to check out a new artist or album imho (I tried SOE in YT before I bought it) but if you're listening more than a couple times, buy it - whether the whole album or just a song for a lousy buck.

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« Reply #149 on: May 15, 2018, 02:13:44 PM »
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Are you getting this information from the Billboard 200 chart?

This is the Soundscan chart that used to be the ONLY source for the Billboard 200 chart from 1991 until 2015. Billboard 200 still uses soundscan, but now they add in individual track downloads for individual songs, and streaming, primarily of individual songs. The Billboard 200 from 1955 through 2015 was based strictly on sales of the album. Since 2015 that is no longer the case and with the new Billboard 200 its possible to have a number 1 album without even selling a thousand copies which in my opinion is just wrong.

The most important thing I'm tracking here is the raw sales data of the album in the United States, both physical and digital copies. It just crossed the 300,000 mark, but they need to find a way to sell 200,000 more in order to get that GOLD Award for the album.