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Re: Daddy's gonna pay - it's gross, right? Any hope that it isn't?
« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2018, 08:32:07 PM »
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I'm not intending to step on anybody's toes with regard to the song meaning.

That said, I don't think anyone will change my mind on Babyface.

We can agree to disagree, it's cool.

Back to Daddy, I am 20% of the way through The Screwtape Letters right now, and it sounds a lot like the voice was inspired by (certainly not identical to though) that book. I see there's plenty of room for different interpretations, left open on purpose, but I see even better than before that this is MacPhisto's song. The USSR stuff is also very interesting, though I haven't nearly wrapped my head around it.

Bono was absolutely influenced by The Screwtape Letters. @U2 even has an article about it: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

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Re: Daddy's gonna pay - it's gross, right? Any hope that it isn't?
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2018, 03:18:54 AM »
Thanks for the link; it was an interesting read!

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Re: Daddy's gonna pay - it's gross, right? Any hope that it isn't?
« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2018, 12:49:32 PM »
I never thought anything of the Russian music/imagery of Daddy's Gonna Pay.  It's a very "European" style album.  I just figured it was a bit more flavoring for the tune, without any real "meaning" behind it.

Bono has said the song itself was influenced by aspects of touring.  The rock star is bailed out by the record company.  It can certainly be relevant to other relationships, but I don't think there's anything inherently "gross" about it, unless you choose to interpret it that way.

As for Babyface, if anyone actually thinks Bono would be singing about sex with a minor, I have no idea what to tell them.  Again, I'd say it probably tells more about the interpreter than Bono.

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Re: Daddy's gonna pay - it's gross, right? Any hope that it isn't?
« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2018, 01:13:51 PM »
I love this song.  I’ve always assumed it was about someone who always counts on someone bailing them out every time they get in trouble.  Like any U2 song, I suppose it could be about a child, a spouse, a country, or God.  For me, since the beginning I've interpreted the lyrics as being about a spoiled, adult child who always counts on daddy to fix things when things go wrong.  Think wealthy socialite who's never had responsibility or been held accountable.  I don't find the lyrics gross or sick, but maybe I’m missing something.

As far as “Babyface,” I've always listened to that song as being about someone who’s infatuated with someone in pornography, personally. 

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Re: Daddy's gonna pay - it's gross, right? Any hope that it isn't?
« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2018, 01:30:13 PM »
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As for Babyface, if anyone actually thinks Bono would be singing about sex with a minor, I have no idea what to tell them.  Again, I'd say it probably tells more about the interpreter than Bono.

Is that supposed to be an insult?

You know, some people have been victims of sex abuse and already have enough crap to deal with.

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Re: Daddy's gonna pay - it's gross, right? Any hope that it isn't?
« Reply #35 on: May 31, 2018, 01:45:11 PM »
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As for Babyface, if anyone actually thinks Bono would be singing about sex with a minor, I have no idea what to tell them.  Again, I'd say it probably tells more about the interpreter than Bono.

Is that supposed to be an insult?

You know, some people have been victims of sex abuse and already have enough crap to deal with.

I'm not insulting anybody.  I'm saying it seems highly unlikely Bono would just throw an ode to sex with a minor on an album, and that if someone is interpreting it that way, they may be bringing something from their own experience in order to interpret it that way.  And even if that's the case, it doesn't mean their interpretation of Bono's intentions is accurate.

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Re: Daddy's gonna pay - it's gross, right? Any hope that it isn't?
« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2018, 02:04:14 PM »
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As far as “Babyface,” I've always listened to that song as being about someone who’s infatuated with someone in pornography, personally. 

I'd say your interpretation is possibly accurate.  But I also think it could be infatuation with any celebrity or popular personality, or an exploration of virtual reality.  It seems more about what technology might become in the then-not-too-distant future.

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Re: Daddy's gonna pay - it's gross, right? Any hope that it isn't?
« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2018, 02:50:32 PM »
So I have read thought the whole thread but isn’t it like a sugar daddy?  You know like a young pretty girl with a rich old man?

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Re: Daddy's gonna pay - it's gross, right? Any hope that it isn't?
« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2018, 04:02:29 PM »
Wow, I'm really not catching a "sex with a minor" connotation at all from this song.  I think it's a matter of interpretation; the song is wide open to make it whatever you want to read into it.

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Re: Daddy's gonna pay - it's gross, right? Any hope that it isn't?
« Reply #39 on: May 31, 2018, 04:20:59 PM »
I don’t mean a minor but like a 20 something with a rich 50 something.  Sugar Daddy is this not a universal term?

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Re: Daddy's gonna pay - it's gross, right? Any hope that it isn't?
« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2018, 04:53:29 PM »
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I never thought anything of the Russian music/imagery of Daddy's Gonna Pay.  It's a very "European" style album.  I just figured it was a bit more flavoring for the tune, without any real "meaning" behind it.


It’s “There’s A Rock On The Volga”. It was Vladimir Lenin’s favorite song.

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Re: Daddy's gonna pay - it's gross, right? Any hope that it isn't?
« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2018, 05:39:51 PM »
Yea, I can hear the Sugar Daddy theme.  Someone else mentioned the bit with the minor.

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Re: Daddy's gonna pay - it's gross, right? Any hope that it isn't?
« Reply #42 on: June 01, 2018, 06:35:00 AM »
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I never thought anything of the Russian music/imagery of Daddy's Gonna Pay.  It's a very "European" style album.  I just figured it was a bit more flavoring for the tune, without any real "meaning" behind it.


It’s “There’s A Rock On The Volga”. It was Vladimir Lenin’s favorite song.

Yeah, I knew that it was Lenin's favorite song (though I couldn't name it before)--I'm just not sure it's really there for any other meaningful reason.  It sounds cool, makes a musical statement, but I'm not sure it has anything more to do with the song's themes or anything.

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Re: Daddy's gonna pay - it's gross, right? Any hope that it isn't?
« Reply #43 on: June 01, 2018, 02:32:26 PM »
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I never thought anything of the Russian music/imagery of Daddy's Gonna Pay.  It's a very "European" style album.  I just figured it was a bit more flavoring for the tune, without any real "meaning" behind it.


It’s “There’s A Rock On The Volga”. It was Vladimir Lenin’s favorite song.

Yeah, I knew that it was Lenin's favorite song (though I couldn't name it before)--I'm just not sure it's really there for any other meaningful reason.  It sounds cool, makes a musical statement, but I'm not sure it has anything more to do with the song's themes or anything.

I always took it as related to the breakup of the Soviet Union a few years prior. With the European context, Zooropa and Daddy’s Gonna Pay convey very similar messages to a floundering Europe.

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Re: Daddy's gonna pay - it's gross, right? Any hope that it isn't?
« Reply #44 on: June 01, 2018, 03:43:49 PM »
It’s U2 it means everything and nothing

And it’s definitely political