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Re: Adam clayton 2019 unlikely
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2018, 07:39:16 AM »
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It's a shame that they no longer care about fans in the Southern Hemisphere and prefer to instead keep giving America figurative blowjobs whilst skipping Australia/NZ/Asia for the third tour in a row. Good way to pi*s off your fanbase.

I think it's a shame that you think they are obliged to travel to where the fans want them to travel!
They guys are almost 60, and traveling to Australia/NZ/Asia is not like traveling to the US, or traveling in Europe. It's a much longer flight to the Southern Hemisphere, and this is much more exhausting.
Maybe they were thinking of adding concerts there to e+I tour, but maybe now they see they can't do it?
Just listen to the interview, they're not getting younger and they need more to be done with them (Physio) prior and after each show, especially Larry. He seems to have slight health problems also due to the drumming, probably back problems and problems with his muscles and every part of his body that is strained by the drumming.

They deserve a break after four years of touring. Hopefully, e+I doesn't become their last tour.


Age 60 is NOT age 80. There are body builders and distance runners in their 60s and 70s that would beat 99% of people at age 20 in those events. The band members are in excellent condition(at least performance wise in concert) and have access to the latest advances to keep them in top shape. U2 are in better shape than most of their fans who are younger.

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Re: Adam clayton 2019 unlikely
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2018, 03:15:52 PM »
Gutted for the fans down under if this too come true people moan in EU about having too fly EJet for a few quid them guys have too take 2wk Holidays too come see them...!!!!

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Re: Adam clayton 2019 unlikely
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2018, 05:30:24 PM »
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Wons, personally I expect the next album to be released much later than that. Start work on the next album in mid-2020, work for a year without coming close to being satisfied with material for the next album, then stop to prep for an AB/Zoo TV 30th anniversary tour. (As much as the band doesn't want to become a nostalgia act, the success of the TJT anniversary tour will compel them to do that for AB as well.) Tour the 30th anniversary for at least six months in 2022, then break toward the end of the year. Resume work on the latest album in 2023 and finally finish in 2024. Release the new album sometime that year (probably in the October/November timeframe), then tour in 2025.

Yeah, I'm being a bit pessimistic based upon past behavioral patterns. I hope I'm wrong.

This is all very presumptuous to assume all these forthcoming albums and tours. There's nothing left for U2 to do as artists that they haven't already done. They struggled to make SOE. They've done the nostalgia tour with TJT 2017.

Read the tea leaves everybody...closing with '13', coming back home, final show of tour in Dublin.

And, Dublin 4 will not only be the last show of the tour, it'll turn out to be their final live show ever. It ends where it all began.

Of course, sure, maybe the band will be re-energized after a long layoff to come up with new material and a tour and all that. But it's gotta end at some point, they've had an amazing career, they're filthy rich (at least Bono), what else is left?

p.s., f yeah, absolutely, I'm going to Dublin 3 and 4. GA.

You could have said that about the Joshua Tree Tour or the ZOO TV tour. They have been doing this for 40 years. Its what they love doing. They are not going to stop because there is NO REASON to stop. They have fun writing and recording new songs and playing them live to their fans. Its why the Rolling Stones are still touring. I expect U2 albums and tours to continue for the next 20 to 25 years. They are performing just as well as they have ever done at the moment.

You're a little too optimistic. They are at the end of an album cycle and thematically, what is left for them as far as new music? + on the record of not wanting to become a nostalgia act like the Stones. TJT 2017 was the exception and only one, and they didn't just do it for musical reasons...they had pressure from Live Nation to do a tour since Bono's health problems derailed the other part of I/E.

Dublin 4 will be it.

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Re: Adam clayton 2019 unlikely
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2018, 07:16:56 PM »
They are not planning for Dublin 4 to be it. Edge and Adam are having fun and want to keep going. Bono would die if he stopped. Who knows about Larry. If Dublin 4 was it, that would be because of an unforeseen event. You could ask what they have left to do musically at pretty pretty much any point in their career and the answer always is "more."

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Re: Adam clayton 2019 unlikely
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2018, 08:04:37 PM »
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It's a shame that they no longer care about fans in the Southern Hemisphere and prefer to instead keep giving America figurative blowjobs whilst skipping Australia/NZ/Asia for the third tour in a row. Good way to pi*s off your fanbase.

I think it's a shame that you think they are obliged to travel to where the fans want them to travel!
They guys are almost 60, and traveling to Australia/NZ/Asia is not like traveling to the US, or traveling in Europe. It's a much longer flight to the Southern Hemisphere, and this is much more exhausting.
Maybe they were thinking of adding concerts there to e+I tour, but maybe now they see they can't do it?
Just listen to the interview, they're not getting younger and they need more to be done with them (Physio) prior and after each show, especially Larry. He seems to have slight health problems also due to the drumming, probably back problems and problems with his muscles and every part of his body that is strained by the drumming.

They deserve a break after four years of touring. Hopefully, e+I doesn't become their last tour.

Are you really arguing they canít perform in Australia because they couldnít handle the flight time? Its a one time flight to get down there and Its not like theyíd be flying economy...

The reality is u2 isnít playing Australia because they donít have to and they really donít want to. Which is disappointing to the fans that have been waiting years. They could easily do concerts there, or even last year or even 3 years ago but they chose not to because itís not that important to them. It doesnít make u2 bad people. Itís just a matter of priority to them and choosing not to extend the tour to perform for that audience does speak to how important the matter is to them.

Yeah, every other band has no trouble flying to Australia... even bands like the Rolling Stones that are a lot older. Hell, even Bon Jovi (similar age band) came 2010, 2013 and again later this year.
It probably comes down to Livenation calling the shots and only selecting the most lucrative markets. But it doesn't seem like the band are fussed either way. What makes it worse was Edge on Australian TV last year swearing that they "absolutely are coming". And now, not even a mention.

Yeah the flying time and age is unlikely to be the reason, heck we had Paul McCartney and Roger Waters in the last year and they are a great deal older.  I just think they probably don't really want to and don't really have to.  I saw an interview with them last year by an Australian journo and when asked about Australia, Bono said that they would like to and maybe they would later, but it was easy enough to read his body language which was saying that it was unlikely.  That's their prerogative.  It is not like I hear any of their new albums on the radio ever.
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Re: Adam clayton 2019 unlikely
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2018, 09:31:34 PM »
U2 will only tour Australia if they are doing stadium shows, as I & E is indoors they probably can't be bothered coming all this way. They are all about the dollars these days and not the Aus/NZ fans.

If they want to play stadiums here they should just play The Joshua Tree tour here that we missed out on in 2017. I think most fans would prefer that rather than the I & E tour and it will be a win win for the band and the fans.




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Re: Adam clayton 2019 unlikely
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2018, 10:20:15 PM »
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They are not planning for Dublin 4 to be it. Edge and Adam are having fun and want to keep going. Bono would die if he stopped. Who knows about Larry. If Dublin 4 was it, that would be because of an unforeseen event. You could ask what they have left to do musically at pretty pretty much any point in their career and the answer always is "more."


Larry and I have 2 degrees of separation, and I've been told through the grapevine that he's had enough of touring. If Larry (or any band member) wants to be done, then the band is done. It just takes one and Larry has one foot out the door.

The band have nothing new artistically to add other than unreleased songs that were rumored to be part of "SOA", the mythical album that'll likely never see the light of day. They've reached the end of the EI IE theme and the shows on this leg at least are closing with '13' (how the song is performed is a big tea leaf, with the model house at the end). The last show of the tour is in Dublin, where it all began. They are confirmed to be taking a long break after those shows. That break will take them to the end of their contract with Live Nation in March 2020. They are not going to do another album retrospective/nostalgia tour, like Zoo TV redux in 2022. It's either new music, which I don't think they will do another long recording an album and accompanying tour cycle, at their age. It all ends after Dublin 4 and that may not be the current plan but I believe with near certainty it'll turn out that way.
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Re: Adam clayton 2019 unlikely
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2018, 01:58:50 AM »
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U2 will only tour Australia if they are doing stadium shows, as I & E is indoors they probably can't be bothered coming all this way. They are all about the dollars these days and not the Aus/NZ fans.

If they want to play stadiums here they should just play The Joshua Tree tour here that we missed out on in 2017. I think most fans would prefer that rather than the I & E tour and it will be a win win for the band and the fans.

Yes I agree that likely the JT tour would go down best.  I know I certainly would prefer that.  However at this stage of their career and lives I suspect that they probably just don't want to bring the JT tour down under.  I don't know if it is just about the money they probably have other priorities in their lives and the Aus/NZ fans and a JT tour are just not one of them but I certainly don't hold that against them lol.  They have lives and families.

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Re: Adam clayton 2019 unlikely
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2018, 02:40:25 AM »
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U2 will only tour Australia if they are doing stadium shows, as I & E is indoors they probably can't be bothered coming all this way. They are all about the dollars these days and not the Aus/NZ fans.

If they want to play stadiums here they should just play The Joshua Tree tour here that we missed out on in 2017. I think most fans would prefer that rather than the I & E tour and it will be a win win for the band and the fans.

Yes I agree that likely the JT tour would go down best.  I know I certainly would prefer that.  However at this stage of their career and lives I suspect that they probably just don't want to bring the JT tour down under.  I don't know if it is just about the money they probably have other priorities in their lives and the Aus/NZ fans and a JT tour are just not one of them but I certainly don't hold that against them lol.  They have lives and families.

They're not doing any more JT tour shows because that tour finished last year in Brazil. They won't be revisiting it.

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Re: Adam clayton 2019 unlikely
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2018, 05:09:34 AM »
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They are not planning for Dublin 4 to be it. Edge and Adam are having fun and want to keep going. Bono would die if he stopped. Who knows about Larry. If Dublin 4 was it, that would be because of an unforeseen event. You could ask what they have left to do musically at pretty pretty much any point in their career and the answer always is "more."


Larry and I have 2 degrees of separation, and I've been told through the grapevine that he's had enough of touring. If Larry (or any band member) wants to be done, then the band is done. It just takes one and Larry has one foot out the door.

The band have nothing new artistically to add other than unreleased songs that were rumored to be part of "SOA", the mythical album that'll likely never see the light of day. They've reached the end of the EI IE theme and the shows on this leg at least are closing with '13' (how the song is performed is a big tea leaf, with the model house at the end). The last show of the tour is in Dublin, where it all began. They are confirmed to be taking a long break after those shows. That break will take them to the end of their contract with Live Nation in March 2020. They are not going to do another album retrospective/nostalgia tour, like Zoo TV redux in 2022. It's either new music, which I don't think they will do another long recording an album and accompanying tour cycle, at their age. It all ends after Dublin 4 and that may not be the current plan but I believe with near certainty it'll turn out that way.

You've read the same rumours on the internet basically. To look at Larry, you could say he was sick of touring back in 1985. These rumours have been doing the rounds since I got into the band

"I know he absolutely loved the tour (TJT) but, I don't know if he loves the new album" - Bono on Larry, December 2017

Having said that, I get the same feeling. Maybe whatever is next will be it
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Re: Adam clayton 2019 unlikely
« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2018, 05:17:14 AM »
Interesting that Larry loved the TJT30 tour and not the new album. There seem to be several instances in their history where he seemed to prefer a different musical direction than the band ended up taking. Also, I would be interested to know if he still wishes they could go back and make Pop the record he, at least at one point, felt it could be.

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Re: Adam clayton 2019 unlikely
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2018, 05:28:50 AM »
Doesn't sound like he's fed up of it...

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Re: Adam clayton 2019 unlikely
« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2018, 12:51:02 PM »
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Doesn't sound like he's fed up of it...

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Final line of the clip from Larry:

"I feel my future is in serenity".

This was a valedictory piece from Larry, a wonderful tribute to the founder of the band. He's not fed up sounding at all, in fact he sounds incredibly passionate about music and being a musician, but on the other hand, there is nothing in that clip to indicate U2 will go on and on after Dublin 4. Dublin 4 is the confirmed end of this tour for U2 and the start of a very long break, one that'll take them past the expiration of their contract with Live Nation (March 2020). After that date, the band have no business obligation to record or tour, and think about it...what else do they have to say musically at this point? They may reissue some anthologies but don't expect a new album or tour based on that album, and certainly not a 30 year retrospective of Achtung Baby and a Zoo TV nostalgia tour. They're done, and Dublin 4 will turn out to be the last show.

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« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2018, 01:45:41 PM »
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Doesn't sound like he's fed up of it...

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Final line of the clip from Larry:

"I feel my future is in serenity".

This was a valedictory piece from Larry, a wonderful tribute to the founder of the band. He's not fed up sounding at all, in fact he sounds incredibly passionate about music and being a musician, but on the other hand, there is nothing in that clip to indicate U2 will go on and on after Dublin 4. Dublin 4 is the confirmed end of this tour for U2 and the start of a very long break, one that'll take them past the expiration of their contract with Live Nation (March 2020). After that date, the band have no business obligation to record or tour, and think about it...what else do they have to say musically at this point? They may reissue some anthologies but don't expect a new album or tour based on that album, and certainly not a 30 year retrospective of Achtung Baby and a Zoo TV nostalgia tour. They're done, and Dublin 4 will turn out to be the last show.

See, whilst I get that feeling myself, you're basing this on your gut feeling and speaking as if it's a fact.

None of us truly know if it's the end or not

You're also basing this on the idea that "well, they have nothing left to say so, that's them finished"
Anyone who starts a band or writes, records, performs music, doesn't do so just on the basis that they have something to say. That includes U2!

Further more, The Edge said recently that they already have some ideas for the next album...

As I said, we're basing this on nothing more than hearsay. Larry and Adam were fed up in 1990, Larry hated Passengers and didn't want to do it, we all heard rumours of the end after 360...

Our gut feeling might prove to be right, it could very well be true what The Edge and Adam have said, none of us know for certain.

If we attached the notion that once you artistically have nothing else left to say it's the end, to every artist, everyone from Ed Sheeran to The Stones should be retired then. Perhaps there won't be big tours anymore and maybe it will be a series of gigs on a smaller scale...I do know however that after a year off, they will be absolutely keen as hell to do something. You can't switch it off.

I do think though it will be awhile before we see or hear from them after this tour
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Re: Adam clayton 2019 unlikely
« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2018, 06:41:37 PM »
Trying to put my bitterness about U2 not touring Australia for so long, I would be genuinely interested to hear the band's honest view of why they do endless laps of the US with the odd European jaunt to break up the US monotony. I'm over the patronising "oh, we'd love to play Australia' guff they've been putting out for years. If they genuinely wanted to tour Australia they'd make it happen. Wouldn't make enough money? Can't be bothered getting on a long-haul flight in First Class or on a private jet? Just a bit of honesty for once would be refreshing...