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They’re starting to get really heavy on the 90s material. Stay, wild horses, Acrobat, zoo station, one, even better. And just today, they rehearsed The Fly for tonight’s show. Last year on TJT 2017, they gave us Ultraviolet and occasionally mysterious ways. Are they giving us the AB songs now because they know they don’t want an achtung tour? I think so



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Re: Is U2 overloading AB material because they won’t do a ZOOTV-2 tour?
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2018, 01:02:49 PM »
They know the fans like changes so thats what they doing its got everyone buzzìng wait & see what goes on tonight i guess

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Re: Is U2 overloading AB material because they won’t do a ZOOTV-2 tour?
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2018, 03:43:16 PM »
They loaded sets for 30 years with JT material and that didn't stop them from doing a JT tour. 'Sides, it's three years away.

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Re: Is U2 overloading AB material because they won’t do a ZOOTV-2 tour?
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2018, 11:32:42 AM »
IMO they usually lean too hard on Achtung Baby.  Great album for sure, and the songs are great live.  But I really wish they’d throw in something from POP.

I don’t know if I see this ZOO 2 tour happening.  I think they might be encouraged to do it when the time comes because of the potential earning power.  One thing I do know is that come 2021, a Zoo TV/AB 30 Tour will sell more tickets than if U2 just released another album and toured arenas again.

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Re: Is U2 overloading AB material because they won’t do a ZOOTV-2 tour?
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2018, 08:58:12 AM »
Am I the only one sad to see SOI completely gone from the setlist?

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Re: Is U2 overloading AB material because they won’t do a ZOOTV-2 tour?
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2018, 10:10:47 AM »
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Am I the only one sad to see SOI completely gone from the setlist?

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Re: Is U2 overloading AB material because they won’t do a ZOOTV-2 tour?
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2018, 10:55:48 AM »
No
It would have made a 'good reflection', but I totally understand that we are at the stage now where they are tired and want to have fun. 
I was looking forward to Iris and Cedarwood Road again
But it looks like I might be getting WGRYWH, SATS and maybe EBTTRT which is a bonus.  I'd prefer Red Flag Day over Gloria because I really want to hear RFD live and they played Gloria at the show I was at in 2015.
Actually I'd be a pretty gutted if I didn't get RFD because I don't know when I will hear it live (if they play it again) and it sounds really great live.
I think LIBTAIIW is better live?

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Re: Is U2 overloading AB material because they won’t do a ZOOTV-2 tour?
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2018, 12:17:03 PM »
There's a part of me that thinks if they had really planned this out from the beginning, they could have done a SOI/80's tour and a SOE/90's tour.  Thematically, grouping the 80's to SOI and the 90's to SOE makes a lot of sense.  And while I really did enjoy the "innocence" part of the SOI tour, and I understood why it was being repeated in the E+I tour, it would have been nice to NOT repeat that part exactly--it did kind of seem like watching a rerun or something.

Anyway.  I loved the show I saw in Paris, but it's hard not to be a little jealous of those fans getting to see Stay, UF, Zoo Station, and Horses.  I'd have gladly dropped a lot of the songs for those instead.  Ah well!

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Re: Is U2 overloading AB material because they won’t do a ZOOTV-2 tour?
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2018, 03:20:40 PM »
I think that hearing both "Red Flag Day" and "Gloria" would be awesome.  I got "Gloria" at my show and was happy with that, but would have loved to hear RFD live as well.

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Re: Is U2 overloading AB material because they won’t do a ZOOTV-2 tour?
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2018, 01:49:59 PM »
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Am I the only one sad to see SOI completely gone from the setlist?

I still carry a torch for RBW

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Re: Is U2 overloading AB material because they won’t do a ZOOTV-2 tour?
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2018, 04:05:03 PM »
And they did the Fly.

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Re: Is U2 overloading AB material because they won’t do a ZOOTV-2 tour?
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2018, 04:38:43 PM »
The AB material is getting loaded up for Berlin. But no uteotw

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Re: Is U2 overloading AB material because they won’t do a ZOOTV-2 tour?
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2018, 06:46:22 AM »
I just attended the final Milan show, did not attend I/E (even held out with watching the DVD!).

I feel getting so much AB - and indeed Macphisto - is a good sign for a 2021 AB30 album.  Why ?

- they did JT30 and no doubt fans would love AB30 as well. We all know the band rates AB enough to do it.
- we got Acrobat. Come on ! With half of AB in Milan, add UTEOTW and MW which they can do in hibernation by now, and they only need add Tryin' to throw...Love is blindness (Edge played it acoustically on From the sky down so who says he can't re-learn the album version) and So cruel
- Zoo TV era can age much better than JT. Switch TV overload with fake news, mocking TV/stardom with mocking social media obsession/megacompanies control via internet data (FB, Google etc), mocking Bush with you -know-who and voila.
- it would fit in with the latest news about the band wanting a break next. Take 2019 and 2020 off, AB30 in 2021 and then a new album.
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Re: Is U2 overloading AB material because they won’t do a ZOOTV-2 tour?
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2018, 01:59:40 PM »
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They’re starting to get really heavy on the 90s material. Stay, wild horses, Acrobat, zoo station, one, even better. And just today, they rehearsed The Fly for tonight’s show. Last year on TJT 2017, they gave us Ultraviolet and occasionally mysterious ways. Are they giving us the AB songs now because they know they don’t want an achtung tour? I think so

An Achtung Baby Tour or ZOO TV tour in 2021/2022 was and is very unlikely. The Joshua Tree Tour 2017 was a rare one off for the band. It was easy to do because 1987 tour was all about the album. The ZOO TV tour was about the Achtung Baby album but also a bit more. It was about the future and the recent impact of cable TV over the previous 8 to 10 years. How would you do a retro tour of that? Would the tour being in 2021 or 2022?


Then how many people would actually attend such an event. The Joshua Tree Tour did well, but there were many shows that sold less tickets in the United States than on the 360 tour for the No Line On The Horizon album and, no it wasn't because of the different staging either. Lets be honest, a ZOO TV Tour in 2022 would be less popular than the Joshua Tree tour of 2017.


But the most important thing is that U2 is still a band that cares most about its next new album and new tour. They are a band of the present and the future. They would rather do a new album and new tour in the 2021/2022 time frame than do a retro tour of ZOO TV and I think that's a good thing.

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Re: Is U2 overloading AB material because they won’t do a ZOOTV-2 tour?
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2018, 07:51:49 AM »
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They’re starting to get really heavy on the 90s material. Stay, wild horses, Acrobat, zoo station, one, even better. And just today, they rehearsed The Fly for tonight’s show. Last year on TJT 2017, they gave us Ultraviolet and occasionally mysterious ways. Are they giving us the AB songs now because they know they don’t want an achtung tour? I think so

An Achtung Baby Tour or ZOO TV tour in 2021/2022 was and is very unlikely. The Joshua Tree Tour 2017 was a rare one off for the band. It was easy to do because 1987 tour was all about the album. The ZOO TV tour was about the Achtung Baby album but also a bit more. It was about the future and the recent impact of cable TV over the previous 8 to 10 years. How would you do a retro tour of that? Would the tour being in 2021 or 2022?


Then how many people would actually attend such an event. The Joshua Tree Tour did well, but there were many shows that sold less tickets in the United States than on the 360 tour for the No Line On The Horizon album and, no it wasn't because of the different staging either. Lets be honest, a ZOO TV Tour in 2022 would be less popular than the Joshua Tree tour of 2017.


But the most important thing is that U2 is still a band that cares most about its next new album and new tour. They are a band of the present and the future. They would rather do a new album and new tour in the 2021/2022 time frame than do a retro tour of ZOO TV and I think that's a good thing.

The themes of technology-induced sensory overload and political uncertainty resonate as well now as they did then, if not more so. Swapping in the internet for cable TV, infinite channels for 500, is no problem at all.
The other day I saw an installation of a video art piece from 1987 titled Total Recall, which if it wasn’t used by the band and crew as a source of inspiration would make for a rather large coincidence. What struck me when I went back to watch the opening bits of ZOO TV was that while the concerns and overall technique were the same (audiovisual bombardment across out-of-sync television screens) the media used to tell the story had radically changed from how much the world had shifted in the intervening years.
Point being, the concerns that  motivated ZOO TV are quite persistent and adapt well to changing times.

I think that diminished sales of TJT30 relative to 360 were partially due to audience fatigue from having hit so many of those cities with I+E. However, while the hits from AB are as massive as those from JT, I do think that for a casual audience JT as an album and an idea has more resonance, so I think in terms of tour popularity it could go either way.

I think the new album concerns are what would win out - I don’t think they want to plan a repeat of this overloaded schedule or delay the new album to accommodate an anniversary tour. (Whether they might use the tour to excuse a delay of the album is a different story.) I’m just someone who was born right after ZOO TV ended and would very much love to get a chance to see a reborn version of it .P