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Offline robert

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the staggering realization of the greatness of achtung baby
« on: October 04, 2018, 02:08:03 PM »
I've listened to U2 my whole life, mainly I got into them, because of the 2000s singles.
I'm 27.
A realtively young fan.
But just recently, and even though, I bought the remaster in 2011, I've realized how great achtung baby is.
And what I don't understand is, what on earth was influencing bono? Who was their Muse?
Does anyone know much about the Berlin years?
And the time away and what happened after Rattle n Hum?
It seems like it's a secret amongst U2 and a uncovered period of time. Like 1995-96.
I just don't get how Bono can write such great lyrics.
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Re: the staggering realization of the greatness of achtung baby
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2018, 03:00:52 PM »
Watch the excellent documentary U2 From The Sky Down. It has some of that story in it. Bet youíll enjoy it.

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Re: the staggering realization of the greatness of achtung baby
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2018, 06:41:32 PM »
Read Bill Flanagan's book "U2: At the End of the World".  That provides some nice insight, too...

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Re: the staggering realization of the greatness of achtung baby
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2018, 03:55:07 AM »
Yeah, I'll watch from the sky down!
good call!
And the book to.


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Re: the staggering realization of the greatness of achtung baby
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2018, 08:16:00 AM »
Totally agree with Bill Flanagan's book "U2: At the End of the World" that's the closest anyone has ever gotten into the world of U2 and it doesn't disappoint. FROM THE SKY DOWN I enjoyed as well.

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Re: the staggering realization of the greatness of achtung baby
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2018, 04:39:19 PM »
This is and will always be my favorite album of all time.

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Re: the staggering realization of the greatness of achtung baby
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2018, 04:53:59 PM »
They were coming from a period of great discord when they suddenly found unity and coherence.  Seems to me a synergy thing that comes and goes of its own accord.

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Re: the staggering realization of the greatness of achtung baby
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2018, 08:40:37 PM »
Edges divorce played a large role

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Re: the staggering realization of the greatness of achtung baby
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2018, 10:28:08 PM »
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This is and will always be my favorite album of all time.
THIS times 1,000,000!

This is the album I was listening to when I met my future-husband, when I studied in Europe for a year, when I came back home and tried to get into Zooropa.  It has been this forever and ever and ever.

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Re: the staggering realization of the greatness of achtung baby
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2018, 03:21:08 PM »
So Cruel hasnít been played (in any real form). Thatís astonishing to me.

Up there with U2ís best lyrics. Fantastic song.

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Re: the staggering realization of the greatness of achtung baby
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2018, 04:26:44 PM »
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So Cruel hasnít been played (in any real form). Thatís astonishing to me.

Up there with U2ís best lyrics. Fantastic song.

I'm chuckling because we have different tastes in lyrics!

Not that I am some high and mighty lyric critic: bring on the moles! But leave the similes at the door please.

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Re: the staggering realization of the greatness of achtung baby
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2018, 05:51:20 PM »
I remember the night the zoo tv tour played the Hartford Civic Center and I was not allowed to go to young I was 14 and listening to the cd with the lights off in my room pretending I was there.

Itís such an amazing album it reached me at 14 and still does at 42

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Re: the staggering realization of the greatness of achtung baby
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2018, 06:38:42 AM »
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So Cruel hasnít been played (in any real form). Thatís astonishing to me.

Up there with U2ís best lyrics. Fantastic song.

I'm chuckling because we have different tastes in lyrics!

Not that I am some high and mighty lyric critic: bring on the moles! But leave the similes at the door please.

ďWeíre cut adrift, but still floating, Iím only hanging on, to watch you go downĒ

You donít think thatís any good? 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Re: the staggering realization of the greatness of achtung baby
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2018, 06:54:34 AM »
I got into U2 when I was 14 in '87 when JT came out, and by the time AB came along, I was in college enjoying my life as a college student. I always associate the JT-R&H-AB period and up to the ZooTV tour with my fun school and college days (not that my life is in any way less "fun" now in my mid 40s, but I a bit more reserved about it these days!!)

I always thought was it the fact AB and ZooTV fitted my college way of life, and would I be as enthused about it if the album came out now?

The answer is probably yes. I'm probably not alone (I hope) but I found myself getting less and less engaged in each album after Pop. I kinda felt the best ten songs off ATYCLB, HTDAAB and No Line, should have been their first album of the 00s, but as three separate albums spread over the decade, I couldn't get into them as much as previous albums.I think an AB type album would re-invent them again properly, but Im not sure we'll ever get another of its type again.

Maybe I'm getting old!! :)

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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2018, 07:22:26 AM »
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So Cruel hasnít been played (in any real form). Thatís astonishing to me.

Up there with U2ís best lyrics. Fantastic song.

I'm chuckling because we have different tastes in lyrics!

Not that I am some high and mighty lyric critic: bring on the moles! But leave the similes at the door please.

ďWeíre cut adrift, but still floating, Iím only hanging on, to watch you go downĒ

You donít think thatís any good? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yeah, that's good. Point.

Counterpoint: "Love, like a screaming flower." Hmm?