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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2009, 09:22:46 PM »

mate what do we have to do to get some dates for Aus....devastated so far

Maybe build a claw? That is quite a bummer for you guys.


haha fair point...with our Aus dollar trading to US 93c currently, im guessing if their not organising any gigs for down here now we are probs going to miss out

Strong AUD should make it more likely that they'll tour, not less likely. they didn't come down here on the elevation tour because of the weak AUD (was in the mid sixties from memory). An interesting question about the claw though - they've been shipping those things all over the northern hemisphere, but I remember PMcG talking about Popmart and the logistical difficulties of bringing it down here, along the lines of "why are we paying for three antonovs to fly steel to the other side of the world - surely we can source girders down there?".

All fingers and toes crossed.

What if the 5th leg of the tour hits "other" spots and sort of jumps around a bit, with 3 different claws on different sides of the globe.  After NA and Europe, they ship 1 claw to S.Amer., 1 to Aus/NZ and maybe 1 to some permanent location (Dublin, Central Park NYC, etc.).  That way they don't have to move all 3 claws to SA and then move all 3 to Aus.  They have said that each of the 4 sets of speakers could be enough for a whole stadium.  Well, why not use 2 sets (spread out, of course) for the single SA claw and 2 sets for the single Aus/NZ claw.  Then they would only have to fly their instruments and gear back and forth, plus the round video screen (which could be tough - may need to build a second one).  Yes it takes a week to set up and tear down for each show, but that is feasible if they can hop back and forth between continents on their jet.  When they are done, they can leave it there as a permanent stage in the final city for each continent.  They would do 2 shows in a week or 4 shows every 3 weeks, but it could get to those spots, and it has to be cheaper to ship it than it is to build a new claw there.

Probably not going to happen that way, but it would be nice to get them down under for you guys.
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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2009, 09:32:56 PM »

Wait, how many claws are there in total?  Shocked
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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2009, 09:41:36 PM »

Wait, how many claws are there in total?  Shocked

Three.

I doubt they'll play a show or two in Australia, then jet back to Sth America, then back to Aust. The jet lag would be an absolute killer. I'd hazard a guess at them doing two shows in each of four cities (Syd, Melb, Bris, Auck). Unless they plan on taking a week and a half off between each city (there's lots of nice places for a holiday down here boys!!  Cheesy) they'll need at least two claws down here. Same in South America.

Back on topic, will be interested to see what tomorrow brings. It'll be interesting to see what the next leg looks like. I've always thought it odd that they have tended to tour N and S america on separate legs (for both timezone and distance reasons) - surely it would make more sense to integrate S American (or at least Mexican) dates into the N American tour? Looks like the Mexican shows at least will be integrated into the N American tour.
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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2009, 09:41:45 PM »

Wait, how many claws are there in total?  Shocked
3 and they "leapfrog" each other.

I saw them in Charlottesville (2nd claw), when they were finishing tearing down the 1st claw in DC and shipping it to Atlanta.
At the same time, they were setting the 3rd claw up in Raleigh.  4 days to set up and2 to tear it down, that is the only way they can do it.  They did the same thing with the Popmart stage.
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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2009, 09:52:53 PM »

Wait, how many claws are there in total?  Shocked

The jet lag would be an absolute killer. I'd hazard a guess at them doing two shows in each of four cities (Syd, Melb, Bris, Auck). Unless they plan on taking a week and a half off between each city (there's lots of nice places for a holiday down here boys!!  Cheesy) they'll need at least two claws down here. Same in South America.

I've always thought it odd that they have tended to tour N and S america on separate legs (for both timezone and distance reasons) - surely it would make more sense to integrate S American (or at least Mexican) dates into the N American tour? Looks like the Mexican shows at least will be integrated into the N American tour.

I think I had envisioned it in only a handful of Aus/NZ cities that could host 2 shows in each city (which would be cost prohibitive for 2 claws to be shipped for only 4-5 cities).  That way they do a new city in Aus./NZ every 1.5-2 weeks or so.  They then hit a SA city in between (same deal - only 4-6 cities that could host 2 concerts, so you would only need 1 claw) and fly back. 

I agree that there would be jet lag - my flights between LA and Germany took 4-5 days to fully recover from jet lag, but I was functional a day or 2 later.  You are right, there are plenty of places for a vacation, which really makes it feasible.

The reason for the NA/SA split of course is climate - you can do Jan 2011 outdoor shows in the southern hemisphere.  Other than that it would never make sense.
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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2009, 10:02:54 PM »

Wait, how many claws are there in total?  Shocked
3 and they "leapfrog" each other.

I saw them in Charlottesville (2nd claw), when they were finishing tearing down the 1st claw in DC and shipping it to Atlanta.
At the same time, they were setting the 3rd claw up in Raleigh.  4 days to set up and2 to tear it down, that is the only way they can do it.  They did the same thing with the Popmart stage.

I see. Makes sense. So each one takes 120 trucks to move? That's a lot of green house emissions.
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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2009, 10:12:35 PM »

I just pray to God another Foxboro date is announced for the summer, All I Want is that
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« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2009, 10:39:33 PM »

Wait, how many claws are there in total?  Shocked

The jet lag would be an absolute killer. I'd hazard a guess at them doing two shows in each of four cities (Syd, Melb, Bris, Auck). Unless they plan on taking a week and a half off between each city (there's lots of nice places for a holiday down here boys!!  Cheesy) they'll need at least two claws down here. Same in South America.

I've always thought it odd that they have tended to tour N and S america on separate legs (for both timezone and distance reasons) - surely it would make more sense to integrate S American (or at least Mexican) dates into the N American tour? Looks like the Mexican shows at least will be integrated into the N American tour.

I think I had envisioned it in only a handful of Aus/NZ cities that could host 2 shows in each city (which would be cost prohibitive for 2 claws to be shipped for only 4-5 cities).  That way they do a new city in Aus./NZ every 1.5-2 weeks or so.  They then hit a SA city in between (same deal - only 4-6 cities that could host 2 concerts, so you would only need 1 claw) and fly back. 

I agree that there would be jet lag - my flights between LA and Germany took 4-5 days to fully recover from jet lag, but I was functional a day or 2 later.  You are right, there are plenty of places for a vacation, which really makes it feasible.

The reason for the NA/SA split of course is climate - you can do Jan 2011 outdoor shows in the southern hemisphere.  Other than that it would never make sense.

Ah yes, climate, didn't think of that - that would make sense.

As far as the cost of transporting two claws goes, surely there'd be some element of economies of scale: as in, the cost-savings of having two claws in town and therefore being able to do cities three days apart (in terms of a per-day running cost) rather than two weeks apart may offset the extra transportation costs. I'd bet that someone at Principle Management is losing sleep over a very thorough cost-benefit analysis at the moment (probably why we haven't heard, one way or the other, about a antipodean tour yet).
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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2009, 04:39:12 PM »

There's a rumor that they'll announce N. American dates on Monday Oct. 26th!  Can't wait!   Smiley

Yeeehawww!

Going to drink to that on Tuesday... and start planning!!!!

You're going to be totally pissed! ( as in drunk, not mad LOL)  Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2009, 04:47:12 PM »

Wait, how many claws are there in total?  Shocked

The jet lag would be an absolute killer. I'd hazard a guess at them doing two shows in each of four cities (Syd, Melb, Bris, Auck). Unless they plan on taking a week and a half off between each city (there's lots of nice places for a holiday down here boys!!  Cheesy) they'll need at least two claws down here. Same in South America.

I've always thought it odd that they have tended to tour N and S america on separate legs (for both timezone and distance reasons) - surely it would make more sense to integrate S American (or at least Mexican) dates into the N American tour? Looks like the Mexican shows at least will be integrated into the N American tour.

I think I had envisioned it in only a handful of Aus/NZ cities that could host 2 shows in each city (which would be cost prohibitive for 2 claws to be shipped for only 4-5 cities).  That way they do a new city in Aus./NZ every 1.5-2 weeks or so.  They then hit a SA city in between (same deal - only 4-6 cities that could host 2 concerts, so you would only need 1 claw) and fly back. 

I agree that there would be jet lag - my flights between LA and Germany took 4-5 days to fully recover from jet lag, but I was functional a day or 2 later.  You are right, there are plenty of places for a vacation, which really makes it feasible.

The reason for the NA/SA split of course is climate - you can do Jan 2011 outdoor shows in the southern hemisphere.  Other than that it would never make sense.

Ah yes, climate, didn't think of that - that would make sense.

As far as the cost of transporting two claws goes, surely there'd be some element of economies of scale: as in, the cost-savings of having two claws in town and therefore being able to do cities three days apart (in terms of a per-day running cost) rather than two weeks apart may offset the extra transportation costs. I'd bet that someone at Principle Management is losing sleep over a very thorough cost-benefit analysis at the moment (probably why we haven't heard, one way or the other, about a antipodean tour yet).

I can only imagine that the cost to ship one let alone more to Australia/NZ,  would be extraordinary and prohibitive.  They're not making big money on this tour and from projections it looks pretty slim after the 3rd leg for all three tours.  Net about $17M before taxes and split between 5  = $3-4 MIL each before taxes....so maybe $2.5 MIL or more for 2 years touring.  They did for ZOO though so you never know..... 

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« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2009, 05:35:32 PM »

My bold prediction is that U2 will headline the Pemberton Festival this summer outside of Vancouver! It would fit if they played Miami on July 9th!

They are selling tons of tickets this go around in North America, so they will come back for sure!
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« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2009, 05:36:02 PM »

Another Ticketmaster leak: http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/10004353AF4862D2?artistid=736365&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=1

Toronto - 7/3/10
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« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2009, 11:20:16 PM »

I think it just went up on their website

6 June, 2010   Anaheim   CA   US   Angel Stadium
12 June, 2010   Denver   CO   US   Invesco Field   
16 June, 2010   Oakland   CA   US   Oakland Coliseum    
20 June, 2010   Seattle   WA   US   Qwest Field
23 June, 2010   Edmonton      CA   Commonwealth Stadium   
30 June, 2010   East Lansing   MI   US   Spartan Stadium   
3 July, 2010   Toronto   ON   CA   Rogers Centre   
6 July, 2010   Chicago   IL   US   Soldier Field   
9 July, 2010   Miami   FL   US   Land Shark Stadium   
12 July, 2010   Philadelphia   PA   US   Lincoln Financial Field   
16 July, 2010   Montreal   QC   CA   Venue
19 July, 2010   New York   NY   US   New Meadowlands Stadium   

Are they only going to be touring along the coasts and in Chicago?Huh?      
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« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2009, 11:25:47 PM »

YES SO EXCITED!!! Giants Stadium yyayayayaya
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« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2009, 11:26:03 PM »

I am currently crying, Montreal is on the list
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