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Title: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: michaelz on December 29, 2017, 07:12:57 PM
Any rumours out there as to how Bono almost died?

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/bono-feels-luckiest-man-earth-mysterious-death-experience/story?id=52025980
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: connorfin22 on December 29, 2017, 07:47:53 PM
Nope. All we know was it was not the bike accident, and all he said was that it was a "shock to the system"
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: summerholly on December 29, 2017, 07:48:12 PM
Who knows, probably something medical.  When you get to that age that happens and it is scary.  I have had several close male friends in that age group go through a frightening potentially fatal diagnosis and it leaves you vulnerable to your own mortality.  Doesn't matter how close you are to family and friends it is still very much a journey you have to go your own and sometimes it works out and you feel the luckiest person ever and for one friend that was the case, and for 2 of my friends it didn't work out, so I can understand what he is saying. 
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: durk on December 29, 2017, 08:10:41 PM
i'm guessing it was heart.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: chriskellyco on December 29, 2017, 09:35:07 PM
Smoker (even former)/drinker = heart.  Or stroke.  We'd know if it was a stroke.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: summerholly on December 29, 2017, 09:58:10 PM
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Smoker (even former)/drinker = heart.  Or stroke.  We'd know if it was a stroke.

Smoker can equate to a number of things including lung, pancreas and bowel.  A heavy smoker friend of mine died of pancreatic cancer in his fifties as did Patrick Swayze also a heavy smoker.  Other male specific issues tend to also start making themselves known according to my male friends and the mens' health van that comes out to visit farmers in our remote areas.  Could be anything really, not good to dwell on.  Just good he is okay!
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: miryclay on December 30, 2017, 12:12:43 AM
Personally I think that he is over dramatising his health scare. I think that he used the experience as a tool for creative focus.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: summerholly on December 30, 2017, 12:38:40 AM
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Personally I think that he is over dramatising his health scare. I think that he used the experience as a tool for creative focus.

Not necessarily.  Over dramatised when he looked at it in hindsight which is probably one reason he doesn't want to say more, but at the time he was experiencing it probably not.  What he said about it in his interview I recognised that fear as true, I knew what he meant.  I don't believe that you can fake something like that for creative focus.  Either the fear is real or it isn't, there is no in between.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: cocamojoe on December 30, 2017, 02:31:53 AM
My guess is that his bicycle accident was either far more serious than weíve been led to believe; or that it has had some lasting, previously unforeseen long term effects; or that he had a heart attack.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: connorfin22 on December 30, 2017, 02:52:48 AM
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My guess is that his bicycle accident was either far more serious than weíve been led to believe; or that it has had some lasting, previously unforeseen long term effects; or that he had a heart attack.

No, he said it was an event that happened around Christmas 2016.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: ShankAsu on December 30, 2017, 08:12:48 AM
i don't think we will know until a much later date.  Possibly not even until after the band members eventually pass years from now.  Bono has made it clear he thinks it would be disrespectful for him to comment on it to those who dealt with the same thing and didn't survive.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: miryclay on December 30, 2017, 08:43:51 AM
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Personally I think that he is over dramatising his health scare. I think that he used the experience as a tool for creative focus.

Not necessarily.  Over dramatised when he looked at it in hindsight which is probably one reason he doesn't want to say more, but at the time he was experiencing it probably not.  What he said about it in his interview I recognised that fear as true, I knew what he meant.  I don't believe that you can fake something like that for creative focus.  Either the fear is real or it isn't, there is no in between.

The comment sparks fans imagination for sure. U2 are imagineers and that's a good thing. Unless we get the word from the man we'll never know. Please don't deny that death is not a major theme on SOE with the passing of Prince, Bowie etc.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: summerholly on December 30, 2017, 09:30:54 AM
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Personally I think that he is over dramatising his health scare. I think that he used the experience as a tool for creative focus.

Not necessarily.  Over dramatised when he looked at it in hindsight which is probably one reason he doesn't want to say more, but at the time he was experiencing it probably not.  What he said about it in his interview I recognised that fear as true, I knew what he meant.  I don't believe that you can fake something like that for creative focus.  Either the fear is real or it isn't, there is no in between.

The comment sparks fans imagination for sure. U2 are imagineers and that's a good thing. Unless we get the word from the man we'll never know. Please don't deny that death is not a major theme on SOE with the passing of Prince, Bowie etc.

Not sure what you mean about denying death as a major theme? I haven't listened to SOE enough yet to form an opinion on its theme so am in no position to comment on that one. 

My thoughts are that Bono experienced something major in his life which resulted in true fear and the possibility of facing his mortality.  How he described it in his interview left me in no doubt.  It is not something you could ever over dramatise for creativity sake, you wouldn't need to, it is frightening enough and it does indeed make you look deep in to yourself.  I can quite believe that with his experience and the loss of Prince and Bowie would indeed influence his lyrics and music.  That general age group of rock stars seem to departing alarmingly, thinking of the recent loss of Tom Petty, George and Malcolm Young as well.   
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: ian ryan on December 30, 2017, 11:41:01 PM
He said he was arrested. Iím thinking cardiac arrest.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: popsadie on December 31, 2017, 02:14:58 AM
In the RS interview, he also mentioned feeling suffocated, which seems to support the cardiac arrest hypothesis.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: PROJ2823 on December 31, 2017, 03:32:57 AM
Most probably he was not in real mortal danger, but got a health scare. Maybe they found a clogged artery for which they had to place a stent or found something in a routine investigation that was suspect but was actually bening.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: BorneOfSound on December 31, 2017, 09:19:40 AM
Donít know. Itís not important for us to know really. But every time I hear Lights Of Home, I can see someone holding on to life while being presented with the very real possibility of entering a tunnel with a bright light at the end of it (image people whoíve had near death experiences often cite) and not returning. Particularly in the strings version. Itís very immediate and itís like the writer is holding on tightly, knowing that letting go is the end.
I think theyíve always talked about death on pretty much every album in some way. But theyíve never made it more clear and give the feeling like ďoh sh$t this might actually happen to me soon because no one lives foreverĒ. I think it made the music that much better actually.


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Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: missey on December 31, 2017, 01:30:41 PM
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Most probably he was not in real mortal danger, but got a health scare. Maybe they found a clogged artery for which they had to place a stent or found something in a routine investigation that was suspect but was actually bening.

This was my guess as well.  If not taken care of right away a clogged artery can cause death.  It can also cause shortness of breath which would explain the suffocating comment. 
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: connorfin22 on December 31, 2017, 05:09:46 PM
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In the RS interview, he also mentioned feeling suffocated, which seems to support the cardiac arrest hypothesis.

I think that was metaphorical. I doubt he said that to describe a symptom of cardiac arrest.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: miryclay on December 31, 2017, 05:48:22 PM
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In the RS interview, he also mentioned feeling suffocated, which seems to support the cardiac arrest hypothesis.

I think that was metaphorical. I doubt he said that to describe a symptom of cardiac arrest.

So many people take what U2 say literally. I estimate one should about 10 percent. Bono also likes to use the roots of words in his interview word play. See how he does this recently in interviews with 'primates' and 'primaries'.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: miryclay on December 31, 2017, 05:50:37 PM
Here is a video created by a dumbass who thinks RBW is actually about wolves.

https://youtu.be/xt0vGieEWFA
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: summerholly on December 31, 2017, 06:31:31 PM
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In the RS interview, he also mentioned feeling suffocated, which seems to support the cardiac arrest hypothesis.

I think that was metaphorical. I doubt he said that to describe a symptom of cardiac arrest.

That was my thought as well.  When you are waiting on a potentially bad diagnosis that is exactly how you feel.  But who knows.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: ian ryan on January 01, 2018, 11:08:56 AM
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In the RS interview, he also mentioned feeling suffocated, which seems to support the cardiac arrest hypothesis.

I think that was metaphorical. I doubt he said that to describe a symptom of cardiac arrest.

That was my thought as well.  When you are waiting on a potentially bad diagnosis that is exactly how you feel.  But who knows.

He said he had his hands above his head, which I have been told is the position the medics put you in as they try to restart your heart.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: JTNash on January 01, 2018, 11:38:42 AM
No need for hands above your head for AED or CPR
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: flyguy on January 01, 2018, 02:24:05 PM
With respect to the topic under discussion - which is certainly fair game, as Bono's health scare did play a major influencing role in the subject matter of the album - it's important to make a distinction about the cardiac episodes in general:

A heart attack is when the heart muscle is damaged due to a restriction of oxygen/blood flow to the heart itself. The symptoms of a heart attack are chest pain, profuse sweating, nausea (and sometimes vomiting), pain in the jaw/teeth and/or left arm and sometimes across the back, and (in many cases) a sensation of either tightness in the chest (many describe it "like there's an elephant sitting on me"), extreme shortness of breath and impending doom. A heart attack, if severe and left unattended, can lead to cardiac arrest ...

Cardiac arrest is when the heart stops completely (sometimes without warning) and death is imminent UNLESS the heart is either revived or kickstarted back into action via defibrillation, electro-stimulation or (in very, very rare cases) CPR.

That being detailed, and knowing Bono's cleverness in alluding to things via the written word and/or in his song lyrics, I think everything he said in the liner notes of SONGS OF EXPERIENCE makes it clear to those who are keen on reading between the lines that he underwent some kind of cardiac episode and that doctors performed a lifesaving procedure to get him back on track.

This would also explain - and those of us who've had loved ones go through something similar will attest to this - Bono's leaner appearance as of recent days, especially in his face, which is much less puffy and more gaunt-looking (which is to his credit). When both a family member and a colleague of mine suffered a heart attack, doctors put them on medication which served to both help take some weight off their frames and reduce fluid retention in the tissues, which is important for anyone with a heart condition. Anyone who recalls when both Bill Clinton and David Lettermen underwent quadruple bypass to fix their own heart issues, the situation preceding their surgeries were particularly dire. Clinton required emergency surgery and Letterman himself told a story on-air after he recovered from his own that he went to the doctor for what was a routine checkup and was told, after emergency surgery to repair the damage, that he basically had 80 to 90 percent blockage of his coronary arteries and was at the doorstep of death. In terms of cardiac health, both Clinton and Letterman were former smokers and drinkers and had horrible diets. Yet when Clinton was discharged and Letterman returned the air, both men were noticeably leaner, especially in their faces.

Prior to Bono's "health scare" (and I don't think anyone will deny this) he was a well-known bon vivant (he smoked both cigarettes and cigars for years in the 90s, has always enjoyed drink - often to excess - and did not always have the best diet on occasion - as evidenced by his liking for pizza, McDonald's and, yes, In-and-Out burgers). This would likely explain why he seemed a bit puffier facially in the last 15 years or so and carried a bit more weight on him physically - i.e. those who know his propensity for holding the lapel of his jackets/shirts closed around his midsection will know he's always been self-conscious about his weight).

However, given how much better and healthier he looks (and the latest ROLLING STONE cover is the best visual proof of that), whatever ordeal he went through, not to mention surgery, suggests he has been put on meds to lose weight and/or told to change his habits and/or diet. All of that might also explain why he's been so reluctant to talk about it. After all, he's the lead singer of the world's most legendary and headlining rock band, and there's nothing more humbling or un-rock 'n roll than admitting you're a mere mortal with a cardiovascular condition. It's not so inconceivable a concept either, given how his own mum died of a stroke that such an issue could be hereditary.

In any case, I'm very glad he was able to get the medical attention necessary to address and/or fix whatever happened to him. I can only hope he's now living a healthier lifestyle and that it will keep him keen on crooning for a few more albums, at the very least.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: miryclay on January 01, 2018, 03:53:22 PM
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In the RS interview, he also mentioned feeling suffocated, which seems to support the cardiac arrest hypothesis.

I think that was metaphorical. I doubt he said that to describe a symptom of cardiac arrest.

That was my thought as well.  When you are waiting on a potentially bad diagnosis that is exactly how you feel.  But who knows.

He said he had his hands above his head, which I have been told is the position the medics put you in as they try to restart your heart.

When I was with Bono this year he told me to put my hand against the screen.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: miryclay on January 01, 2018, 04:11:04 PM
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With respect to the topic under discussion - which is certainly fair game, as Bono's health scare did play a major influencing role in the subject matter of the album - it's important to make a distinction about the cardiac episodes in general:

A heart attack is when the heart muscle is damaged due to a restriction of oxygen/blood flow to the heart itself. The symptoms of a heart attack are chest pain, profuse sweating, nausea (and sometimes vomiting), pain in the jaw/teeth and/or left arm and sometimes across the back, and (in many cases) a sensation of either tightness in the chest (many describe it "like there's an elephant sitting on me"), extreme shortness of breath and impending doom. A heart attack, if severe and left unattended, can lead to cardiac arrest ...

Cardiac arrest is when the heart stops completely (sometimes without warning) and death is imminent UNLESS the heart is either revived or kickstarted back into action via defibrillation, electro-stimulation or (in very, very rare cases) CPR.

That being detailed, and knowing Bono's cleverness in alluding to things via the written word and/or in his song lyrics, I think everything he said in the liner notes of SONGS OF EXPERIENCE makes it clear to those who are keen on reading between the lines that he underwent some kind of cardiac episode and that doctors performed a lifesaving procedure to get him back on track.

This would also explain - and those of us who've had loved ones go through something similar will attest to this - Bono's leaner appearance as of recent days, especially in his face, which is much less puffy and more gaunt-looking (which is to his credit). When both a family member and a colleague of mine suffered a heart attack, doctors put them on medication which served to both help take some weight off their frames and reduce fluid retention in the tissues, which is important for anyone with a heart condition. Anyone who recalls when both Bill Clinton and David Lettermen underwent quadruple bypass to fix their own heart issues, the situation preceding their surgeries were particularly dire. Clinton required emergency surgery and Letterman himself told a story on-air after he recovered from his own that he went to the doctor for what was a routine checkup and was told, after emergency surgery to repair the damage, that he basically had 80 to 90 percent blockage of his coronary arteries and was at the doorstep of death. In terms of cardiac health, both Clinton and Letterman were former smokers and drinkers and had horrible diets. Yet when Clinton was discharged and Letterman returned the air, both men were noticeably leaner, especially in their faces.

Prior to Bono's "health scare" (and I don't think anyone will deny this) he was a well-known bon vivant (he smoked both cigarettes and cigars for years in the 90s, has always enjoyed drink - often to excess - and did not always have the best diet on occasion - as evidenced by his liking for pizza, McDonald's and, yes, In-and-Out burgers). This would likely explain why he seemed a bit puffier facially in the last 15 years or so and carried a bit more weight on him physically - i.e. those who know his propensity for holding the lapel of his jackets/shirts closed around his midsection will know he's always been self-conscious about his weight).

However, given how much better and healthier he looks (and the latest ROLLING STONE cover is the best visual proof of that), whatever ordeal he went through, not to mention surgery, suggests he has been put on meds to lose weight and/or told to change his habits and/or diet. All of that might also explain why he's been so reluctant to talk about it. After all, he's the lead singer of the world's most legendary and headlining rock band, and there's nothing more humbling or un-rock 'n roll than admitting you're a mere mortal with a cardiovascular condition. It's not so inconceivable a concept either, given how his own mum died of a stroke that such an issue could be hereditary.

In any case, I'm very glad he was able to get the medical attention necessary to address and/or fix whatever happened to him. I can only hope he's now living a healthier lifestyle and that it will keep him keen on crooning for a few more albums, at the very least.

Those are some serious medical chops you got there.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: BorneOfSound on January 01, 2018, 08:04:43 PM
If heís changed his diet, putting a stop to drinking alcohol is definitely not part of the plan. Noel Gallagher was talking in an interview about drinking a lot with him during the summer tour. But he definitely does look noticeably older since whatever it was that happened.


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Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: summerholly on January 01, 2018, 08:18:20 PM
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If heís changed his diet, putting a stop to drinking alcohol is definitely not part of the plan. Noel Gallagher was talking in an interview about drinking a lot with him during the summer tour. But he definitely does look noticeably older since whatever it was that happened.


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Maybe just a health scare that was potentially really serious but was found to be fine, but scared the crap out of him at the time!  At that age ageing is like that lol, you wake up one morning and look in the mirror and think oh crap that wasn't like that yesterday lol.  With or without a health scare Bono probably doesn't have the healthiest lifestyle.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: dukewmc on January 02, 2018, 12:25:46 PM
This is a theory. I can't stress this enough.

This is pure speculation, but I do not think it was a health event, but rather an event where his life was in danger.
When he or Edge talk about it, they almost go out of their way to say it wasn't some kind of 'health scare,' but rather a 'brush with mortality.'
If it's a health scare, why not just say it was?
If it was a heart scare, why not just come out and be more forthright about it?
Bono is an activist, why would he not come clean about something that nearly killed him like cardiac arrest or something along those lines? Wouldn't it be easy for him to say: "Hey, it happened to me, go see a doctor and get checked out before it happens to you."

If it was an event where it was only him that was effected, I think he'd be a lot more open about it.

Which is why I think (again, PURE speculation) he was near or close to some kind of terrorist attack in Europe.
Perhaps one that happened in Germany or France.

They way he discusses how he reacted is less around "luck that he survived due to others that helped him medically," and more of "luck that he wasn't killed."
He has talked about being scared and being frightened, and how he won't say more about it; in a way, almost as though he has PTSD.

He talks openly about his bike accident and his back surgery; physical events that took their toll on him, but they affected him individually.

If he was in or around a terrorist attack, it's a completely different thing. A completely different scare.
What if he were sitting in some cafe in Nice or wherever when there was an attack that involved some lunatic using a car or truck to run people down in the streets?
And this is the crux of my theory here:
He may (pure speculation, can't stress that enough) have "survived" an attack, and if he were to talk about how he survived, he puts himself right in the middle of that particular news story.
Those stories aren't about him.
I can't imagine he would want his name associated in any way shape or form with any terrorist group.
Nothing good can come from him even mentioning being part of that.
If he did, he's helping to keep those terrorist groups in the news.

I'm not saying he was a target, but he could have been close enough to be part of some collateral damage.

They way they dance around the subject, intentionally, makes me think it was something other than a health scare.
And considering how Bono gets to travel and go on holiday seems to increase the odds that he could be exposed to that kind of danger.

I'm probably way off base here, and again, it's a theory, but it's worth mentioning.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: flyguy on January 02, 2018, 03:22:01 PM
I think that's an incredibly valid theory, and one I considered myself ... however, upon reading interviews where this subject was brought up, along with the liner notes from SOE, not to mention the band's requisite thanks section of those same notes, I honestly believe the references (while very elliptical) are honestly not about terrorism but definitely a physical health scare linked to something medically askew, if not heart or stroke-related.

It's also worth noting from previous band interviews that they mentioned the scare in question happening over/during the Christmas holidays of 2016 (into 2017), which might explain why Bono was not seen busking in public that year.

The specific comments in the liner notes go as follows:

"LAST WINTER I WAS ON THE RECEIVING END OF A SHOCK TO THE SYSTEM MYSELF, A SHOCK THAT LEFT ME CLINGING ON TO MY OWN LIFE LIKE A RAFT. NOW LOTS OF US HAVE A BRUSH WITH MORTALITY AT SOME STAGE, WHETHER ITíS OUR OWN OR SOMEONE DEAR TO US. ITíS AN ARRESTING EXPERIENCE. I WAS ARRESTED.
FACING A WALL WITH MY HANDS UP OVER MY HEAD... THE FORCE SCREAMING AT ME NOT TO MOVE.
I WONíT DWELL IN IT OR ON IT. I DONíT WANT TO NAME IT. IN A REALITY TV WORLD OF MINOR MAJOR MELODRAMA I CAN SPARE EVERYONE THAT. WHETHER ITíS PHYSICAL OR MENTAL OR EMOTIONAL SO MANY OF US HIT A WALL AT SOME POINT IN OUR LIFE."

Later in the notes, under the acknowledgements section, Bono gives a nod to doctors:

"TO THE GREAT PHYSICIANS Ė IS THERE A GREATER SERVICE ON THIS EARTH THAN KEEPING PEOPLE ALIVE?"

Then, in his interview with Jann Wenner in Rolling Stone, Bono elaborates slightly further - mentioning it being a physical issue and the why he wouldn't talk about it in specifics:

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WENNER: One thing this record seems to be about is survival. The survival of the world, and of our political system. But let's talk about your own survival. In the middle of recording, you had a near-death experience. Tell me what happened.

BONO: Well, I mean, I don't want to.


WENNER: I understand. I had my own experience recently. People want to ask about my health, and I'm hesitant to talk about it. Why do I feel that way? Am I ashamed? Is it weakness I am trying to cover up?

BONO: It's just a thing that . . . people have these extinction events in their lives; it could be psychological or it could be physical. And, yes, it was physical for me, but I think I have spared myself all that soap opera. Especially with this kind of celebrity obsession with the minutiae of peoples' lives Ė I have got out of that. I want to speak about the issue in a way that lets people fill in the blanks of what they have been through, you know? It's one thing if you were talking about it in a place of record like Rolling Stone, but by the time it gets to your local tabloid it is just awful. It becomes the question that everyone is asking.


WENNER: But let's talk about it in an elliptical sense. I mean, it's central to the album.

BONO: Yeah. This political apocalypse was going on in Europe and in America, and it found a perfect rhyme with what was going on in my own life. And I have had a hail of blows over the years. You get warning signs, and then you realize that you are not a tank, as Ali says. Edge has this thing that he says about me, that I look upon my body as an inconvenience.

WENNER: In 2000, you had a throat-cancer scare, right?

BONO: No, it was a check for it. One of the specialists wanted to biopsy, which would have risked my vocal cords Ė and it turned out OK.

WENNER: A few years ago, I visited you in the hospital with your arm in some kind of George Washington Bridge structure.

BONO: After my bike accident, pretending it was a car crash.

WENNER: It looked bad, and then the latest thing. That is a lot of brushes with death.

BONO: There is comic tragedy with a bike accident in Central Park Ė it is not exactly James Dean. But the thing that shook me was that I didn't remember it. That was the amnesia; I have no idea how it happened. That left me a little uneasy, but the other stuff has just finally nailed me. It was like, "Can you take a hint?"

(Later, in that same interview, Bono referred to how the incident in general led him to have a crisis of faith, one in which he described himself as "suffocating", and - again - there's a reference to healthcare and how he feels fortunate to have survived something that others couldn't or didn't)

BONO: ...But, you know, people have had so much worse to deal with, so that is another reason not to talk about it. You demean all the people who, you know, never made it through that or couldn't get health care!

WENNER: Do you feel like you lucked out?

BONO: Lucked out? I am the f****** luckiest man on Earth. I didn't think that I had a fear of a fast exit. I thought it would be inconvenient 'cause I have a few albums to make and kids to see grow up and this beautiful woman and my friends and all of that. But I was not that guy. And then suddenly you are that guy. And you think, "I don't want to leave here. There's so much more to do." And I'm blessed. Grace and some really clever people got me through, and my faith is strong.

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So yeah, as much as I initially figured it had something to do with the terror attack in France, I think these exchanges spell out pretty clearly that something went very physically askew with him. My honest guess is it had something to do with his heart (hence the whole poetic reference to being "arrested.") If I were to speculate - and yes, we all do that, but I'm basing this on what I know and see and read - would not be surprised if the doctors discovered B was harboring either an aneurysm or a major arterial blockage, or what is now more commonly referred to as a "widowmaker."

In the rare instances where these blockages are successfully treated surgically, the people suffering them are often rushed to the hospital in a state of imminent death, but more often than not don't know it, simply because this type of blockage can manifest as something innocuous, like a mild pain in the back or a severe headache or lightheadedness. The discovery of these types of blockages have grown more common in recent years, but a lot of people who have them don't know they have them and - as a result - don't survive.

The most disconcerting thing, in my humble opinion, is Bono's refusal to discuss the specifics of what happened. Is it is his right to keep it private? Of course. But part of me believes that it has something to do with ego and pride (i.e. the whole "who wants to know a rock star isn't immortal?" thing - which is silly), or perhaps it's due to a concern about not appearing healthy ahead of the upcoming SOE tour (i.e. - for insurance purposes, and yes I know that sounds cynical, but hey ... as modern headlines prove, there are still plenty of people in show business who don't care about anything other than the bottom line) ... but I really believe an opportunity is being missed here wherein (if Bono did indeed suffer a cardiac episode) he could play a role in helping raise awareness of a health issue that affects millions of Americans and might encourage others to get themselves checked out and/or healthy.

Then again, he's the lead singer of U2 ... not a spokesman for heart health, nor would I imagine he'd want to become one at this stage.

(exhale) Jesus. I gotta not drink so much coffee. Anyway, I covered a lot of ground there. It was not out of an intention to disprove a theory, but to flesh out a little bit more what I was explaining in my previous post re: how this really does sound like it was a medical emergency caught in the nick of time.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: jgrooms on January 02, 2018, 05:01:12 PM
Maybe he almost drowned.. Red Flag Day anyone?
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Post by: summerholly on January 02, 2018, 06:53:46 PM
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The most disconcerting thing, in my humble opinion, is Bono's refusal to discuss the specifics of what happened. Is it is his right to keep it private? Of course. But part of me believes that it has something to do with ego and pride (i.e. the whole "who wants to know a rock star isn't immortal?" thing - which is silly), or perhaps it's due to a concern about not appearing healthy ahead of the upcoming SOE tour (i.e. - for insurance purposes, and yes I know that sounds cynical, but hey ... as modern headlines prove, there are still plenty of people in show business who don't care about anything other than the bottom line) ... but I really believe an opportunity is being missed here wherein (if Bono did indeed suffer a cardiac episode) he could play a role in helping raise awareness of a health issue that affects millions of Americans and might encourage others to get themselves checked out and/or healthy.

Then again, he's the lead singer of U2 ... not a spokesman for heart health, nor would I imagine he'd want to become one at this stage.

(exhale) Jesus. I gotta not drink so much coffee. Anyway, I covered a lot of ground there. It was not out of an intention to disprove a theory, but to flesh out a little bit more what I was explaining in my previous post re: how this really does sound like it was a medical emergency caught in the nick of time.

Interesting about an opportunity missed to educate people if it was some sort of health scare.  Celebrities/ sports stars sometimes go out of their way to talk about their health scares whether it be mental or physical to profile issues that can kill.  However I could imagine at this point in time as an older still energetic frontman of U2 and a tour coming up the last thing you want is people focusing on if you are going to expire during a performance especially if it was heart related. 
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Luzita on January 02, 2018, 06:58:25 PM
This is all speculation but a heart attack sounds very plausible to me. I seem to recall reading somewhere (maybe U2 by U2) that Bono has been diagnosed with an eccentric heart; i.e. some sort of arrhythmia. Donít know much about heart health but maybe that relates also. I think the reason he doesnít want to talk about it is because of how it affected him emotionally. From the things heís said he was very frightened and upset with God for nearly taking him out.


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Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: connorfin22 on January 03, 2018, 01:57:10 AM
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Here is a video created by a dumbass who thinks RBW is actually about wolves.

https://youtu.be/xt0vGieEWFA

That was so stupid. You can tell the person who made that video doesn't actually pay attention to the music.
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Post by: mille100piedi on January 03, 2018, 06:36:31 AM
I don't understand why Bono is hiding his health issues. I was not surprised when he said he has glaucoma because I knew that there was something wrong with his eyes many years ago, just looking at them, I suffer of a rare incurable disorder so I very often understand when there is something wrong with a person health. I understand he wants to help starving people in Africa, but why not rising awareness for glaucoma or any other issue he might had experienced? His last health issue probably was related to his heart. Maybe he doesn't want to show his weakness and probably doesn't want to accept them himself. But he should put aside his pride and help people that maybe are living very close to him that might have the same issue. I live in Ireland and I know many Irish people that don't like him, I think if he could focus more in the difficulties that ordinary people may encounter especially in his own country he would attract more sympathy from his Irish fellows. I personally don't do any charity for people in difficulties that are living very far away from me because I simply do not trust big organizations. I do prefer act locally and I have been helped by people that suffer of my same health condition, it is just thanks to them that I was able to get a diagnosis. Now it is my turn and I am helping people that have just been diagnosed, I also teach them how to cope in everyday life.
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Post by: durk on January 03, 2018, 10:39:07 AM
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This is all speculation but a heart attack sounds very plausible to me. I seem to recall reading somewhere (maybe U2 by U2) that Bono has been diagnosed with an eccentric heart; i.e. some sort of arrhythmia. Donít know much about heart health but maybe that relates also. I think the reason he doesnít want to talk about it is because of how it affected him emotionally. From the things heís said he was very frightened and upset with God for nearly taking him out.


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well - he certainly does have an eccentric heart
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Post by: Luzita on January 03, 2018, 12:20:19 PM
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This is all speculation but a heart attack sounds very plausible to me. I seem to recall reading somewhere (maybe U2 by U2) that Bono has been diagnosed with an eccentric heart; i.e. some sort of arrhythmia. Donít know much about heart health but maybe that relates also. I think the reason he doesnít want to talk about it is because of how it affected him emotionally. From the things heís said he was very frightened and upset with God for nearly taking him out.


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well - he certainly does have an eccentric heart

Yes, he made that joke himself. Thatís why I remember it.


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Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: DrDoom171 on January 03, 2018, 02:31:26 PM
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"LAST WINTER I WAS ON THE RECEIVING END OF A SHOCK TO THE SYSTEM MYSELF, A SHOCK THAT LEFT ME CLINGING ON TO MY OWN LIFE LIKE A RAFT. NOW LOTS OF US HAVE A BRUSH WITH MORTALITY AT SOME STAGE, WHETHER ITíS OUR OWN OR SOMEONE DEAR TO US. ITíS AN ARRESTING EXPERIENCE. I WAS ARRESTED.
FACING A WALL WITH MY HANDS UP OVER MY HEAD... THE FORCE SCREAMING AT ME NOT TO MOVE.
I WONíT DWELL IN IT OR ON IT. I DONíT WANT TO NAME IT. IN A REALITY TV WORLD OF MINOR MAJOR MELODRAMA I CAN SPARE EVERYONE THAT. WHETHER ITíS PHYSICAL OR MENTAL OR EMOTIONAL SO MANY OF US HIT A WALL AT SOME POINT IN OUR LIFE."

Thanks for all of that info, flyguy.  It sure sounds to me like he was hinting at specifically a heart attack/cardiac arrest because he states "it was an arresting experience....I was arrested."  He also mentions a shock....perhaps needing a defibrillator?  That would be very serious indeed and certainly a health scare where many people don't survive.  Just pure speculation, but Bono's choice of words placed that thought in my mind.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: michaelz on January 03, 2018, 05:10:05 PM
Interesting theories.  Overall he's certainly slowed down progressively over the past few years.  At the JT 2017 tour, he was relatively stationary and slow to get around. 

That being said, cardiac arrest seems like the most plausible explanation and perhaps heís had a history with heart issues. Curiously, on August 21, 2011, sourcing an Irish Independent article, the Rolling Stone reported that Bono was treated for a heart scare in France.  The original news story was published by Reuters:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bono-health/u2-singer-bono-denies-reports-of-health-scare-idUSTRE77K2O120110821
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bono-treated-for-heart-scare-20110821
https://www.independent.ie/woman/celeb-news/bono-brought-to-hospital-over-chest-pain-scare-26763845.html

I would expect that Reuters  had a very credible source / sources prior to publishing.

However, the very next day,  the story was retracted following a denial issued by Bono himself:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bono-denies-health-scare-20110822

Perhaps we are getting closer to the truth... Wish him the best of health.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: summerholly on January 03, 2018, 06:07:29 PM
You would think that if he had had a heart attack that had involved being shocked back to life it would have been a very hard thing to keep under wraps given the number of people at a hospital that would have been involved  It also takes quite awhile to come back from something like that.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Argo on January 03, 2018, 06:22:41 PM
I doubt it was as serious as a heart attack. And agree it would have been hard to keep that under wraps. Could be a lot of things. Maybe one day we will find out. Good thing is he seems to be in decent health now and we have a tour ahead of us.
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Post by: summerholly on January 03, 2018, 06:55:49 PM
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Good thing is he seems to be in decent health now and we have a tour ahead of us.

Lucky you! It has been years and years since they came to Australia!
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Post by: Argo on January 03, 2018, 07:47:14 PM
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Good thing is he seems to be in decent health now and we have a tour ahead of us.

Lucky you! It has been years and years since they came to Australia!

I live in Asia so am in an even worse boat. I still need to travel to Aust or elsewhere to see them, even if they do go there. Doesn't mean I am not happy that there is a tour ahead though as always interesting to see what gets played, hear (recordings of) new songs live etc.
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Post by: summerholly on January 03, 2018, 09:22:41 PM
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Good thing is he seems to be in decent health now and we have a tour ahead of us.

Lucky you! It has been years and years since they came to Australia!


I live in Asia so am in an even worse boat. I still need to travel to Aust or elsewhere to see them, even if they do go there. Doesn't mean I am not happy that there is a tour ahead though as always interesting to see what gets played, hear (recordings of) new songs live etc.

Yes I do enjoy watching the videos that get made of their tours!  Yeah I live outback Aust so also have to do significant traveling even if they did come!
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: soloyan on January 04, 2018, 05:37:31 AM
Regarding the terrorist attack theory.... Let's not forget Bono grew up in Ireland. No matter how bad things were in France lately, he's been through this before. This is nothing new to him.
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Post by: Luzita on January 04, 2018, 10:59:41 AM
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Regarding the terrorist attack theory.... Let's not forget Bono grew up in Ireland. No matter how bad things were in France lately, he's been through this before. This is nothing new to him.

Also he was in Nice during the terrorist attack and he has described what he experienced. So it isnít something heís reluctant to talk about.


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Post by: soloyan on January 04, 2018, 03:37:14 PM
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Regarding the terrorist attack theory.... Let's not forget Bono grew up in Ireland. No matter how bad things were in France lately, he's been through this before. This is nothing new to him.

Also he was in Nice during the terrorist attack and he has described what he experienced. So it isnít something heís reluctant to talk about.


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Right. Bono was having dinner in the same restaurant as Nice city mayor Christian Estrosi that night. But as you said he spoke about it, and it wasn't end of year 2016.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Dono on January 05, 2018, 08:39:25 AM
What if it was simply a case that he was arrested, told to face the wall with his hands up over his head and the police force screamed at him not to move, and they were armed? Isn't that a lot easier?
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: miryclay on January 05, 2018, 09:11:02 AM
I interpret it to be he was a rest Ed. Like he had a nap with Ed Wood or Ed Vedder. That's the obvious answer.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: OptimaX on January 05, 2018, 12:45:16 PM
He was changing a light-bulb (hands above his head) or something similar and electrocuted himself (shock to the system) by accidentally touching a high voltage live wire with something (brush with mortality), but he survived ("Lucked out? I am the f****** luckiest man on Earth"). while most of the time people won't be able to survive such a situation. It also makes sense that he doesn't want to tell the full story, cause it will be paparazzi headlining filth "Bono Nearly died by changing a lightbulb". But Bono is clever and sincere enough to come with a better reason: "Consider yourself lucky and show respect to those that did die".

I think Bono was setting up the Xmas tree or something and got electrocuted. Treatment by specialists were able to get Bono back to full recovery very quickly.

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Post by: miryclay on January 05, 2018, 02:12:47 PM
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He was changing a light-bulb (hands above his head) or something similar and electrocuted himself (shock to the system) by accidentally touching a high voltage live wire with something (brush with mortality), but he survived ("Lucked out? I am the f****** luckiest man on Earth"). while most of the time people won't be able to survive such a situation. It also makes sense that he doesn't want to tell the full story, cause it will be paparazzi headlining filth "Bono Nearly died by changing a lightbulb". But Bono is clever and sincere enough to come with a better reason: "Consider yourself lucky and show respect to those that did die".

I think Bono was setting up the Xmas tree or something and got electrocuted. Treatment by specialists were able to get Bono back to full recovery very quickly.



For the record, it was the IE lightbulb and after it happened he was inspired to write The Blackout. He was running down the road like loose electricity.

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Post by: 73October on January 07, 2018, 02:38:03 PM
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He was changing a light-bulb (hands above his head) or something similar and electrocuted himself (shock to the system) by accidentally touching a high voltage live wire with something (brush with mortality), but he survived ("Lucked out? I am the f****** luckiest man on Earth"). while most of the time people won't be able to survive such a situation. It also makes sense that he doesn't want to tell the full story, cause it will be paparazzi headlining filth "Bono Nearly died by changing a lightbulb". But Bono is clever and sincere enough to come with a better reason: "Consider yourself lucky and show respect to those that did die".

I think Bono was setting up the Xmas tree or something and got electrocuted. Treatment by specialists were able to get Bono back to full recovery very quickly.



For the record, it was the IE lightbulb and after it happened he was inspired to write The Blackout. He was running down the road like loose electricity.

But did he know "The Electric Co"?
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: cocamojoe on January 07, 2018, 06:20:37 PM
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My guess is that his bicycle accident was either far more serious than weíve been led to believe; or that it has had some lasting, previously unforeseen long term effects; or that he had a heart attack.

No, he said it was an event that happened around Christmas 2016.

Welp, you seem to have missed the part where I said ďor that he had a heart attackĒ.
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Post by: miryclay on January 08, 2018, 04:36:26 AM
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He was changing a light-bulb (hands above his head) or something similar and electrocuted himself (shock to the system) by accidentally touching a high voltage live wire with something (brush with mortality), but he survived ("Lucked out? I am the f****** luckiest man on Earth"). while most of the time people won't be able to survive such a situation. It also makes sense that he doesn't want to tell the full story, cause it will be paparazzi headlining filth "Bono Nearly died by changing a lightbulb". But Bono is clever and sincere enough to come with a better reason: "Consider yourself lucky and show respect to those that did die".

I think Bono was setting up the Xmas tree or something and got electrocuted. Treatment by specialists were able to get Bono back to full recovery very quickly.



For the record, it was the IE lightbulb and after it happened he was inspired to write The Blackout. He was running down the road like loose electricity.

But did he know "The Electric Co"?

No he's a stupid boy. He hurt himself changing a light bulb remember?
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: DeargDoom on January 08, 2018, 10:17:19 AM
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Who knows, probably something medical. 

I can safely say no one ever had a near death  experience that wasn't 'something medical'.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: paulftruex on January 09, 2018, 12:47:50 PM
The song Blackout seems relevant to his "extinction event".  Couldn't have been a major heart attack as he seemed to reappear rather quickly.  I suggest he had a TIA (Transient Ischemic Attack) which would have caused REAL symptoms (dizzy, blackout, spinning, slurred speech, heart racing, pain).  He may have been told he was having a stroke (TIA is sort of a mini stroke).  TIAs are common long after major injuries, accidents (bike) and often treated with only a small amount of time in the hospital.  But, he may have been very frightened.  AND recovery is relatively quick with proper therapy (aspirin, other blood thinners).  I'm guessing he's still taking some meds to make sure all is good.  low doses of course.  Just a guess, but he wasn't gone long enough for it to have been a heart attack.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: miryclay on January 09, 2018, 02:11:54 PM
The TIA incident caused him to have Vertigo.
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Post by: DrDoom171 on January 10, 2018, 12:20:33 PM
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The TIA incident caused him to have Vertigo.

Funny!

So, I had to start a thread in the lyrics forum about U2 lyrics that reference medical conditions.  Blackout and vertigo start it off.  :)
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Post by: paulmartens on January 10, 2018, 02:51:12 PM
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The song Blackout seems relevant to his "extinction event".  Couldn't have been a major heart attack as he seemed to reappear rather quickly.  I suggest he had a TIA (Transient Ischemic Attack) which would have caused REAL symptoms (dizzy, blackout, spinning, slurred speech, heart racing, pain).  He may have been told he was having a stroke (TIA is sort of a mini stroke).  TIAs are common long after major injuries, accidents (bike) and often treated with only a small amount of time in the hospital.  But, he may have been very frightened.  AND recovery is relatively quick with proper therapy (aspirin, other blood thinners).  I'm guessing he's still taking some meds to make sure all is good.  low doses of course.  Just a guess, but he wasn't gone long enough for it to have been a heart attack.

That's what I thought as well.  I thought about the possibility of the scare being a heart attack but I find it hard to believe that the band could have kept that sort of event under wraps and I'm not sure Bono would have been ready for the JT tour in that case.  The recovery of that and the need to watch your physical exertion in the meantime make it hard for me to believe that was the event.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Blueyedboy on January 11, 2018, 05:23:55 PM
Stepped on a Lego piece in bare feet maybe.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: wilburn on January 14, 2018, 05:54:28 AM
Do you think it could have been cancer?
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Post by: hollywoodswag on January 14, 2018, 06:07:57 AM
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Stepped on a Lego piece in bare feet maybe.
LOL! That truly IS a near-death experience.  ;D
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Post by: summerholly on January 14, 2018, 08:20:07 AM
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Do you think it could have been cancer?

Could have been a cancer scare but obviously he is fine.  Health scares of various descriptions are not uncommon at that age.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: miryclay on January 14, 2018, 01:31:04 PM
Many American punk bands of the early 80s considered older rock muscians to be like Dinosaurs.
One even named themselves after the term:
http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Dinosaur_Jr.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: miryclay on January 14, 2018, 05:46:53 PM
Not sure, aren't you the asteroid expert?
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: DeargDoom on January 15, 2018, 09:33:58 AM
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Regarding the terrorist attack theory.... Let's not forget Bono grew up in Ireland. No matter how bad things were in France lately, he's been through this before. This is nothing new to him.
He grew up in Dublin. Very few terrorist attacks there.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Eno on January 15, 2018, 08:24:08 PM
I doubt it had anything to do with his heart. If he had experienced a cardiac arrest or a heart attack no doctor would allow him to go on tour so soon. I know people who had to take a few months off from boring office jobs after suffering a heart attack and this guy goes on tour? I just can't see it given the risks involved. Secondly, it would not be easy to obtain insurance for the tour given these kinds of health issues.
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Post by: miryclay on January 15, 2018, 08:41:35 PM
He had a book of his heart. It's on the album silly.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Gazoon on January 16, 2018, 08:20:10 AM
Not sure about how the near death experience occurred, but I really do think Bono has returned to form in his performing. He was in great voice in the recent 'U2 at the BBC'.

I don't think one has to stretch their imagination too far to believe that a near death experience could inspire this return to form.

Who knows though?

Good on him for keeping it private though. It's good to see that there are still celebrities out there that aren't willing to sell every detail of their life story for every last cent they can make.

I'm sure this form will continue into the Experience and Innocence tour, and I can't wait to see it in person.

Check out my music if you have the chance: https://youtu.be/dahc_X56qjk
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: kerrica on February 08, 2018, 02:34:29 PM
The Nice terorr attack seems very likely. Instagram puts them in the south of France right around that time.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: miryclay on February 08, 2018, 04:03:39 PM
It is well known he was 500 feet away
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Post by: Chrisss on February 09, 2018, 12:00:15 AM
The incident was not the Nice attack. The Nice attack was in Summer 2016. The incident happend in winter 2016, between Christmas and New Year.
Irish Hotpress Magazine had an article about U2 in the December issue, and the incident was also mentioned there.

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Didn't he also say in the Rolling Stone interview that he had pain and felt like suffocating? Everything he revealed since makes it sound like a heart issue, heart attack that leaded to a cardiac arrest. As it has been said before: not very Rock'n'Roll, this might be the reason why he doesn't tell what it was.
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Post by: summerholly on February 09, 2018, 01:54:35 AM
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The incident was not the Nice attack. The Nice attack was in Summer 2016. The incident happend in winter 2016, between Christmas and New Year.
Irish Hotpress Magazine had an article about U2 in the December issue, and the incident was also mentioned there.

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Didn't he also say in the Rolling Stone interview that he had pain and felt like suffocating? Everything he revealed since makes it sound like a heart issue, heart attack that leaded to a cardiac arrest. As it has been said before: not very Rock'n'Roll, this might be the reason why he doesn't tell what it was.

But how to keep something as major as a cardiac arrest or some other event where you end up in a major hospital in their ICU being resuscitated from ever going public.  Doesn't makes sense to me.
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Post by: the_chief on February 09, 2018, 01:54:55 AM
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I doubt it had anything to do with his heart. If he had experienced a cardiac arrest or a heart attack no doctor would allow him to go on tour so soon. I know people who had to take a few months off from boring office jobs after suffering a heart attack and this guy goes on tour? I just can't see it given the risks involved. Secondly, it would not be easy to obtain insurance for the tour given these kinds of health issues.

Rick Parfitt of Status Quo had a second heart by pass in December 2012. He was touring again a week later.
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The incident was not the Nice attack. The Nice attack was in Summer 2016. The incident happend in winter 2016, between Christmas and New Year.
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Didn't he also say in the Rolling Stone interview that he had pain and felt like suffocating? Everything he revealed since makes it sound like a heart issue, heart attack that leaded to a cardiac arrest. As it has been said before: not very Rock'n'Roll, this might be the reason why he doesn't tell what it was.

But how to keep something as major as a cardiac arrest or some other event where you end up in a major hospital in their ICU being resuscitated from ever going public.  Doesn't makes sense to me.

How does anyone keep these things private?
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Chrisss on February 09, 2018, 02:01:21 AM
He said it was during the recordings of SOE. I think you are in a studio during recordings. If it was in Dublin there a so many private hospitals and clinics, and I guess they can keep something like that private. It was not like the bike accident when a woman saw the accident and called the ambulance.
If he was at home or in a recordings studio, it was not that public. I don't think it's a problem to keep that private, as long as there are no concerts to be cancelled.

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I doubt it had anything to do with his heart. If he had experienced a cardiac arrest or a heart attack no doctor would allow him to go on tour so soon. I know people who had to take a few months off from boring office jobs after suffering a heart attack and this guy goes on tour? I just can't see it given the risks involved. Secondly, it would not be easy to obtain insurance for the tour given these kinds of health issues.

Everyone is different. I don't think it depends on what it was only but also on the constitution of the person. Bono is doing this "job" since 41 years, so it's not that exhausting to him being on tour and on stage as it would be to someone of us.
A friend of mine had cancer with an intense chemo. While some people would stop working for the entire period of the chemo treatment (it was six month chemo) she only stayed at home for three days after each chemo treatment that she got every three weeks, and then went back to work on the fourth day until the next treatment.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: summerholly on February 09, 2018, 02:47:42 AM
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He said it was during the recordings of SOE. I think you are in a studio during recordings. If it was in Dublin there a so many private hospitals and clinics, and I guess they can keep something like that private. It was not like the bike accident when a woman saw the accident and called the ambulance.
If he was at home or in a recordings studio, it was not that public. I don't think it's a problem to keep that private, as long as there are no concerts to be cancelled.

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I doubt it had anything to do with his heart. If he had experienced a cardiac arrest or a heart attack no doctor would allow him to go on tour so soon. I know people who had to take a few months off from boring office jobs after suffering a heart attack and this guy goes on tour? I just can't see it given the risks involved. Secondly, it would not be easy to obtain insurance for the tour given these kinds of health issues.

Everyone is different. I don't think it depends on what it was only but also on the constitution of the person. Bono is doing this "job" since 41 years, so it's not that exhausting to him being on tour and on stage as it would be to someone of us.
A friend of mine had cancer with an intense chemo. While some people would stop working for the entire period of the chemo treatment (it was six month chemo) she only stayed at home for three days after each chemo treatment that she got every three weeks, and then went back to work on the fourth day until the next treatment.

Good luck keeping an actual cardiac arrest on a star like Bono secret, just too many people involved for something like that not to be leaked I reckon.  Cardiac arrest is a major emergency.  A heart attack not leading to a cardiac arrest would be easier to keep the lid on.  Anyway whatever it was I don't think it has stopped him enjoying a good drinking session lol.  Not exactly good if one has a dodgy ticker.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Chrisss on February 09, 2018, 03:01:43 AM
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Good luck keeping an actual cardiac arrest on a star like Bono secret, just too many people involved for something like that not to be leaked I reckon.  Cardiac arrest is a major emergency.  A heart attack not leading to a cardiac arrest would be easier to keep the lid on.  Anyway whatever it was I don't think it has stopped him enjoying a good drinking session lol.  Not exactly good if one has a dodgy ticker.

If a cardiac arrest doesn't happen in hospital when you're there anyway, where would the emergency intervention for a cardiac arrest happen? There where you are at this moment, at home, or in the ambulance car. If you have a cardiac arrest, there's not much time left to rush someone to the hospital. And there's just the medics in the ambulance car.
And with money, it's always easier to keep things private.
Well,  know as much/less than everyone else...but for me a heart attack isn't automatically "almost dying", but a cardiac arrest would be.

What I'm thinking of is the phrase "Bono is seriously ill". Could this be a heart attack?. Someone is seriously ill sounds to me more like an illness you're suffering from a certain period, such as cancer or a chronic disease, for example. I think a heart attack is a very sudden incident, most of the people don't know they can get this problem. Unless you already suffer from a cardiac disease before.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: summerholly on February 09, 2018, 05:51:58 AM
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Good luck keeping an actual cardiac arrest on a star like Bono secret, just too many people involved for something like that not to be leaked I reckon.  Cardiac arrest is a major emergency.  A heart attack not leading to a cardiac arrest would be easier to keep the lid on.  Anyway whatever it was I don't think it has stopped him enjoying a good drinking session lol.  Not exactly good if one has a dodgy ticker.

If a cardiac arrest doesn't happen in hospital when you're there anyway, where would the emergency intervention for a cardiac arrest happen? There where you are at this moment, at home, or in the ambulance car. If you have a cardiac arrest, there's not much time left to rush someone to the hospital. And there's just the medics in the ambulance car.
And with money, it's always easier to keep things private.
Well,  know as much/less than everyone else...but for me a heart attack isn't automatically "almost dying", but a cardiac arrest would be.

What I'm thinking of is the phrase "Bono is seriously ill". Could this be a heart attack?. Someone is seriously ill sounds to me more like an illness you're suffering from a certain period, such as cancer or a chronic disease, for example. I think a heart attack is a very sudden incident, most of the people don't know they can get this problem. Unless you already suffer from a cardiac disease before.

My take on the whole thing is that he had to undergo tests for something that was potentially life threatening if diagnosed.  Waiting for the results for something like that can totally leave you fighting for breath out of sheer anxiety.  He said it was something that he had to go through on his own which is also true of something like that.  I think he is okay now? certainly doesn't appear to be seriously ill.  I think it was just a health scare, not uncommon at his age.

As to cadiac arrest it would be someone trying to keep the person alive until the ambos got there and then it would be a full scale emergency on arriving at the nearest hospital.  Difficult to keep the lid on I still reckon
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Chrisss on February 09, 2018, 06:14:10 AM
Having a health scare by waiting for a diagnosis only isn't threatening enough to have him saying "I shouldn't be here cause I should be dead", I think.
BTW: probably depending on how far you're away from the nearest hospital, they're doing the reanimation in the ambulance car as well. A friend told me that the husband of her hairdresser had a brain aneurysma on Jan 1, he was able to enter the ambulance car but had a cardiac arrest once he was in the ambulance. They live on the countryside, and so they tried to reanimate him straight there in the ambulance. (Unfortunately he died anyway)

This is from the second article in that Hotpress issue:

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Well, we won't find it out. If he wants to tell, ok, and if not, I just hope he's taking good care of himself.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: summerholly on February 09, 2018, 06:30:26 AM
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Having a health scare by waiting for a diagnosis only isn't threatening enough to have him saying "I shouldn't be here cause I should be dead", I think.

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Well, we won't find it out. If he wants to tell, ok, and if not, I just hope he's taking good care of himself.

Yep just speculation really.  Depends on the health scare, a friend had what turned out to be a melanoma only after he insisted it was removed and tested even after the doctor told him it was nothing to worry about.  That was a humdinger of a health scare.   So really it could be anything.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Billy Rhythm on February 09, 2018, 07:58:11 AM
As with anyone's personal health information other than our own...  It's really none of our business unless you are much closer to the situation...  Knowing the details wouldn't change how I view the new album lyrically whatsoever...:-)
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Chrisss on February 09, 2018, 08:39:34 AM
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As with anyone's personal health information other than our own...  It's really none of our business unless you are much closer to the situation...  Knowing the details wouldn't change how I view the new album lyrically whatsoever...:-)

If one doesn't want others to talk about something, one shouldn't mention anything at all.  :P
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Blueyedboy on February 25, 2018, 08:25:51 PM
My own ill informed assumption is that the bike accident and the cardiac arrest were one and the same event. Could it be possible that Bono had his arresting experience whilst riding his bike, causing him to have his spill that damaged his shoulder?
The original idea of putting SOE out there hot on the heels of SOI may well of been underway, meaning the timelines would make sense.
 
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: STominovich on March 11, 2018, 04:24:15 AM
From the lyrics, his comments and his gaunt appearance I think itís a pretty sure bet he had an issue with his heart.  My father had bypass surgery years ago and it had a similar effect on how he looked physically. To those who say it is private information - meh - he brought it up.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: This Dave on March 17, 2018, 08:16:08 PM
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From the lyrics, his comments and his gaunt appearance I think itís a pretty sure bet he had an issue with his heart.  My father had bypass surgery years ago and it had a similar effect on how he looked physically. To those who say it is private information - meh - he brought it up.

He literally sent a song about it out for the entire world to hear. Itís not private.
Unless Bono wants to be THAT friend we all have on Facebook. You know,  the one who posts ďOH MY GOD I CANíT BELIEVE IT!Ē, and when you ask them what happened, they say ďI donít want to talk about it.Ē
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Johnny Feathers on June 06, 2018, 10:24:35 AM
I'm pretty amazed at some of the responses here.  Not to be that guy, but you all are FANS of the band, right?  Funny way of expressing it.

Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: JTNash on June 06, 2018, 10:34:58 AM
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I'm pretty amazed at some of the responses here.  Not to be that guy, but you all are FANS of the band, right?  Funny way of expressing it.
tough crowd right?
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Johnny Feathers on June 06, 2018, 10:40:37 AM
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I'm pretty amazed at some of the responses here.  Not to be that guy, but you all are FANS of the band, right?  Funny way of expressing it.
tough crowd right?

Yeah.  I notice one of the responders has only a single post to their name, so I don't take them as a serious commenter.  Should have noticed that before I fed the conversation.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: 73October on June 06, 2018, 10:50:01 AM
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I'm pretty amazed at some of the responses here.  Not to be that guy, but you all are FANS of the band, right?  Funny way of expressing it.
tough crowd right?

Yeah.  I notice one of the responders has only a single post to their name, so I don't take them as a serious commenter.  Should have noticed that before I fed the conversation.

Yeah - DepthTested sounds like a troll.  Time to ban them after one post, mods...?
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: JTNash on June 06, 2018, 11:17:38 AM
Also I think we will know what the story is soon, he canít possibly be reliving it night after night without eventually spilling the beans.

I mean why come to a fan site and troll? Why waste your time. Fine line between love and hate, come on over to the fan side dude.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Johnny Feathers on June 06, 2018, 11:47:34 AM
The only thing I will say: I remarked last year at how low-energy the band, especially Bono, seemed during most of the JT show.  I'm wondering if his health scare had a direct impact on that tour.

He seems much more energetic this tour, so hopefully it's behind him now.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: laoghaire on June 06, 2018, 12:31:39 PM
I've noticed both observations too - he was lower energy (though still plenty intense) last year. This year he is still lower energy than 2016 but higher than 2017.

Of course, it brings to mind how his "low energy" is still "frontman of rock band." Maybe not literally climbing scaffolding like he used to, or casually jumping 10 feet off the stage into the crowd. But still fronting a rock and roll tour.

Whatever happened, he came through it like a champ. And I don't doubt for a minute it was major.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Boba Fett on June 06, 2018, 10:49:05 PM
Perhaps this means nothing, but I've noticed Bono holds the microphone quite differently over the last couple of tours that he used to. He used to 'grip' it quite tightly into the palm of his hand, but these days holds it almost delicately in his fingers.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: summerholly on June 07, 2018, 05:17:31 AM
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I've noticed both observations too - he was lower energy (though still plenty intense) last year. This year he is still lower energy than 2016 but higher than 2017.

Of course, it brings to mind how his "low energy" is still "frontman of rock band." Maybe not literally climbing scaffolding like he used to, or casually jumping 10 feet off the stage into the crowd. But still fronting a rock and roll tour.

Whatever happened, he came through it like a champ. And I don't doubt for a minute it was major.

Dont know how old you all are but I am the same age as Bono so probably older than most of you and yeah my energy has lowered more noticeably recently!  About a month ago I had to draft and load a lot of young sheep that jumped like springboks on my own and at the end of a day I was completely stuffed.  Took me a few days to recover.  Once it would have been easy. 

Age gets ya! no matter how fit you are! Fronting a rock band is pretty physical especially if you have had a serious health scare!
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: laoghaire on June 07, 2018, 06:31:43 AM
I used bad examples from many years ago.

How about the MANIC energy performing Invisible at the Top of the Rock on Fallon?

There is a clear difference (big drop in energy) between I&E era and JT30. And increased energy from JT30 and E&I.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: 73October on June 07, 2018, 08:31:36 AM
The main thing is that he seems more energetic this year. 
He's said as much as he feels in better shape.  Last year, people said that he looked like he'd aged somewhat and I thought he was OK in the main and when I saw him at Twickenham I thought he looked OK.  I'd no idea about the health scare until Edge mentioned it in September time via Rolling Stone. 
He does look in better shape than last year from what footage I've seen.

Not sure if he would open up completely about the issue.  I kind of wish he may a little more.  Not that I was a fan of Peter Stringfellow at all (uugh), but to keep a serious illness secret from the world became something of a minor shock today.
For the record: The most positive thing I can think about Peter Stringfellow is that his 80's mullet definitely topped Bono's effort....
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: laoghaire on June 07, 2018, 11:36:53 AM
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The most positive thing I can think about Peter Stringfellow is that his 80's mullet definitely topped Bono's effort....

HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE. I don't know who this guy is but I must Google the mullet.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: 73October on June 07, 2018, 11:54:09 AM
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The most positive thing I can think about Peter Stringfellow is that his 80's mullet definitely topped Bono's effort....

HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE. I don't know who this guy is but I must Google the mullet.

Just Google Peter StringfellowÖ.he was the British Hugh Hefner (with a massive mullet to boot)
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: laoghaire on June 07, 2018, 12:27:44 PM
I started to Google but the photos I saw weren't quite the sort I wanted to display on my device in public so I X'd outta there before I saw any mullet.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: 73October on June 08, 2018, 02:44:45 AM
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I started to Google but the photos I saw weren't quite the sort I wanted to display on my device in public so I X'd outta there before I saw any mullet.

 ;D
Google in private then!
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: laoghaire on June 08, 2018, 06:15:35 AM
Ok, I did it. And I saw mullet. But nothing that compared to the glorious mullet Bono had cultivated in 1983.

Nothing compares 2 that mullet.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: 73October on June 08, 2018, 07:04:50 AM
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Ok, I did it. And I saw mullet. But nothing that compared to the glorious mullet Bono had cultivated in 1983.

Nothing compares 2 that mullet.

I don't know - the photo where Stringfellow meets Princess Diana; that's a mullet that beats Bono's.
And Bono's still with us.  That's enough reason for a celebration!
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: miryclay on June 08, 2018, 08:17:51 AM
Im pretty sure the MRI sequence during Montreal has changed to include new footage. Its different than I remember seeing in other shows. At least the end video screens had different footage.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: JTNash on June 08, 2018, 09:09:11 AM
The pictures in Nashville are of a brain scan.  I have them but I am not schooled in posting pictures on Message boards
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Catlithco on June 09, 2018, 12:17:08 PM
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Im pretty sure the MRI sequence during Montreal has changed to include new footage. Its different than I remember seeing in other shows. At least the end video screens had different footage.

The footage has changed from Chicago on. The footage didn't include brain scans before Chicago. But now Montreal is also different from Chicago. They still use the brain scans, but the screen was black during the MRI intro, except the brain scans they showed during the MRI beeping noise. Now they have these noise/grain pictures (that look like TV closedown from the past) just before the brain scan images are shown on the screen. I'm curious what they will add to the intro until the tour is heading to Europe.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: 73October on June 11, 2018, 03:26:19 AM
I think they are throwing people off the scent a bit.
Looks like an MRI was involved in the incident.
But we have now moved from Winter Beats by I Break Horses after people made the connection with the MRI scan (and there was the blog on the @U2 home page) to Wonderful World by Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds as the PA intro music. 
The brain images are probably just a generalisation as to MRI scan performance art.  On the tour promo video that Broken Fingaz Crew did (the 'U2 coming through' one), there was a 3D animation of a human heart done in a medical style.  I know that 'love' is one of the sub-themes for this tour and can understand the significance of the heart - but a 3D medical model??
They know that we are all going 'was it his heart or was it his brain?' 
I don't know if they will eventually make it more obvious.  It wouldn't surprise me if they are still trying to keep things under wraps despite dropping a few clues.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Catlithco on June 11, 2018, 10:22:17 AM
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I think they are throwing people off the scent a bit.
Looks like an MRI was involved in the incident.
But we have now moved from Winter Beats by I Break Horses after people made the connection with the MRI scan (and there was the blog on the @U2 home page) to Wonderful World by Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds as the PA intro music. 
The brain images are probably just a generalisation as to MRI scan performance art.  On the tour promo video that Broken Fingaz Crew did (the 'U2 coming through' one), there was a 3D animation of a human heart done in a medical style.  I know that 'love' is one of the sub-themes for this tour and can understand the significance of the heart - but a 3D medical model??
They know that we are all going 'was it his heart or was it his brain?' 
I don't know if they will eventually make it more obvious.  It wouldn't surprise me if they are still trying to keep things under wraps despite dropping a few clues.

The heart animation is taken from the Get Out Of Your Own Way Video.. and it refers to the lyrics I think:
"Your heart's a balloon, but then it bursts", as the heart bursts in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zu53yAoTJE
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: 73October on June 12, 2018, 02:22:20 AM
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I think they are throwing people off the scent a bit.
Looks like an MRI was involved in the incident.
But we have now moved from Winter Beats by I Break Horses after people made the connection with the MRI scan (and there was the blog on the @U2 home page) to Wonderful World by Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds as the PA intro music. 
The brain images are probably just a generalisation as to MRI scan performance art.  On the tour promo video that Broken Fingaz Crew did (the 'U2 coming through' one), there was a 3D animation of a human heart done in a medical style.  I know that 'love' is one of the sub-themes for this tour and can understand the significance of the heart - but a 3D medical model??
They know that we are all going 'was it his heart or was it his brain?' 
I don't know if they will eventually make it more obvious.  It wouldn't surprise me if they are still trying to keep things under wraps despite dropping a few clues.

The heart animation is taken from the Get Out Of Your Own Way Video.. and it refers to the lyrics I think:
"Your heart's a balloon, but then it bursts", as the heart bursts in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zu53yAoTJE

Still it's a 3D model of a heart.  Maybe I'm reading too much into this though?
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: Catlithco on June 12, 2018, 03:15:09 AM
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Still it's a 3D model of a heart.  Maybe I'm reading too much into this though?

I don't know  :)
I'm actually reading more into the brain scan images.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: dontwantwhatideserve on June 13, 2018, 07:29:45 AM
Brain scan, 3D heart, couldn't the medical elements be referencing mortality (in general and not specific to Bono)? Also, a medical take on the head and the heart...two long, frequently referenced concepts for Bono...
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: siblis on June 21, 2018, 05:17:24 AM
After the all the yrs of following Bono, I have found that he's a great salesman & could sell Snow Blowers to residents in Florida, I am finding this whole MRI thing a bit of Rib. If it is true, he's not going to tell anyone because medical issues are indeed private.
Title: Re: Anybody know how Bono almost died?
Post by: rlabs19 on June 21, 2018, 06:51:39 PM
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After the all the yrs of following Bono, I have found that he's a great salesman & could sell Snow Blowers to residents in Florida, I am finding this whole MRI thing a bit of Rib. If it is true, he's not going to tell anyone because medical issues are indeed private.

Ha, I like that and agree with you.