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Fun and Games / Re: A-Z U2 songs
« Last post by kevtn43 on August 19, 2018, 02:22:33 PM »
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The Band / Re: Is the Edge one of the greatest songwriters/musicians of all time?
« Last post by LToy on August 19, 2018, 01:59:11 PM »
After watching the documentary It Might Get Loud my impression of the Edge is heís one of the best technological/sonic manipulators of his generation.
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The Music and Lyrics / Zooropa Remaster Digital Download - Mini Review
« Last post by zooguitar on August 19, 2018, 11:41:27 AM »
For those of you who read my review of the digital downloaded files of the recently re-mastered POP album, much of what I wrote for that review can be applied to this remaster, unfortunately.

The Zooropa remaster is not as inconsistent as the Pop remaster in terms of varying tones (TLDR: some songs on the Pop remaster benefited from extra treble, while many others suffered from loss in bass depth and warmth), but overall it was probably not necessary. None of the tracks sound noticeably better than the 1993 versions, while "Lemon" in particular is badly done. "Lemon" subverts all the melody and detail from Adam's bass line in order to make the tambourine on the hi hat sound more present in the mix. Perhaps the funkiest bass line in the entire U2 canon, it is neutered here in a dull, flat remaster mix that sounds like it is aimed at low-quality ear bud headphones. If I were Adam, I would be sincerely pi**ed off at the final result.

The consistent thread throughout these 2 disappointing remaster efforts is the fact that they were not supervised by the original mastering engineers, but by the mastering engineer for the most recent U2 album. Given that these were the last U2 albums recorded on analog tape, there should be much room for improvement in a modern, digital remaster if done properly: listen to gold-standard mastering efforts by the Stones and Beatles for comparison.

-NEGATIVE POSTSCRIPT ITEM #1: to get a sense of how unnecessary the Zooropa remaster effort was, there is no discernible difference between the version of "Stay" released on the Best of 1990-2000 compilation vs the 2018 remaster (a visual analysis of both audio files confirms this)

-NEGATIVE POSTSCRIPT ITEM #2: I really hope the CD re-releases of Zooropa/Pop include as much B-side/outtake materials as other U2 CD re-releases. The bonus tracks on the Zooropa remaster vinyl/digital download only turned out to be remixes of Lemon and Numb that were included on the MELON Propaganda CD from 1995. It would have been more interesting to hear remastered versions of actual B-sides and outtakes from Zooropa, in particular "Slow Dancing", "Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me", or even the Bono-version of "The Wanderer".
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The Band / Re: Is the Edge one of the greatest songwriters/musicians of all time?
« Last post by Rasmus on August 19, 2018, 11:09:25 AM »
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I like his inventiveness with his guitar playing and assorted rigs and his sense for melody. Still, I feel that the band's producers have way too much tamed his input on the studio albums from HTDAAB onwards. After all, raw Edge is better than smooth Edge.

I think Edge himself plays a part in this not just the producers. He has become far less innovative from HTDAAB onward than he was on earlier records - still doesnt erase his accomplishments though.
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The Music and Lyrics / Re: Zooropa: Retrospective
« Last post by Rasmus on August 19, 2018, 11:03:19 AM »
Zooropa is in my top 3 U2 albums and its incredible. From a time where U2 were not only the biggest band in the world (arguably) but also pushing the boundaries of rock music in general.

I voted Zooropa, Babyface and Lemon as 3 favorites. I knew Babyface would have a tough time in the voting but I just love it and the lyrics are brilliant. I could easily have voted for Stay and Dirty Day as well.
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You have Dublin 93 back now right? There's a high quality audio on YouTube.

I don't have it burned to a disc yet but yeah I've seen that. Praise the Lord for Youtube lol
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Tours / Re: What do you think the next tour will be like?
« Last post by Moonstarsky on August 19, 2018, 09:57:48 AM »
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I'm not sure there will be another formal tour

Really,? Iím more shocked an admin is saying this. I think the next forma tour could be the last, but to me there is 0% chance of it not happening.

Iím a U2 as well as admin on here but just my view. Iím not convinced they guys want to go on forever thatís all. May be wrong but they will disappear for a while after this tour.

We obviously all want the band to continue. Adam said it himself, they'll be taking a long break. 4 years is a long time to take a break. You also have to understand something else,  wife's, kids, family, friends etc, need and want attention as well. And they deserve it! And the band also deserves a break.

Singnomore, didn't say that the band isn't going to continue, what they said is that they aren't sure that they'll be another formal tour. And in all honesty, as much as I'd love a new album SOON and another TOUR SOON! I tend to agree with singnomore. Let them take their well deserved break and hopefully, we'll hear a new album in 2023, and see them in concert 2024.

Till a formal announcement is made, all we're doing is speculating.

They have been doing formal tours since 1979. Why would they suddenly stop now? For this band, not having another formal tour would be such a change that it would be essentially, not continuing as a band.

Age and health may come into it. I just wonder if they will move more to the model they were trying to do with the last Joshe Tree Tour where originally it was going to be 10 shows. So thatís where I could see a change in how they tour currently.

Honestly, I hope they don't do the huge stadium concerts anymore. If they do, sorry U2, NO!! I really didn't enjoy being in a huge outdoor stadium at the 360 tour. Paid $500.00 for 2 tickets plus a U2 membership so I could get those lousy tickets. Could barely see the band even on screen, and NO! NOT DOING THAT EVER AGAIN!

If it's over a 10,000 seater arena, not for me. I'd rather go to my local library and borrow a U2 dvd for free.
I'll watch it on my own big screen at home. 70,000 ppl just doesn't work for me.

Let them take their well deserved time off, regroup, and pls, forget the 70,000 ppl tours. I hope they figure out that we actually wanna be able to see them properly and hear them properly. I don't mind if It's a 10 - 20 city tour, as long as it isn't in some stadium. If we want to see them, we'll travel, if necessary.  At least if I have to travel for a show, I can turn it into a vacation and visit the sites around that city.
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The Music and Lyrics / Re: Summer Of Love Remixes?
« Last post by miryclay on August 19, 2018, 09:06:32 AM »
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Tours / Re: What do you think the next tour will be like?
« Last post by singnomore on August 19, 2018, 07:46:42 AM »
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I'm not sure there will be another formal tour

Really,? Iím more shocked an admin is saying this. I think the next forma tour could be the last, but to me there is 0% chance of it not happening.

Iím a U2 as well as admin on here but just my view. Iím not convinced they guys want to go on forever thatís all. May be wrong but they will disappear for a while after this tour.

We obviously all want the band to continue. Adam said it himself, they'll be taking a long break. 4 years is a long time to take a break. You also have to understand something else,  wife's, kids, family, friends etc, need and want attention as well. And they deserve it! And the band also deserves a break.

Singnomore, didn't say that the band isn't going to continue, what they said is that they aren't sure that they'll be another formal tour. And in all honesty, as much as I'd love a new album SOON and another TOUR SOON! I tend to agree with singnomore. Let them take their well deserved break and hopefully, we'll hear a new album in 2023, and see them in concert 2024.

Till a formal announcement is made, all we're doing is speculating.

They have been doing formal tours since 1979. Why would they suddenly stop now? For this band, not having another formal tour would be such a change that it would be essentially, not continuing as a band.

Age and health may come into it. I just wonder if they will move more to the model they were trying to do with the last Joshua Tree Tour where originally it was going to be 10 shows. So thatís where I could see a change in how they tour currently.
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Tours / Re: What do you think the next tour will be like?
« Last post by wons on August 19, 2018, 04:47:36 AM »
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I'm not sure there will be another formal tour

Really,? Iím more shocked an admin is saying this. I think the next forma tour could be the last, but to me there is 0% chance of it not happening.

Iím a U2 as well as admin on here but just my view. Iím not convinced they guys want to go on forever thatís all. May be wrong but they will disappear for a while after this tour.

We obviously all want the band to continue. Adam said it himself, they'll be taking a long break. 4 years is a long time to take a break. You also have to understand something else,  wife's, kids, family, friends etc, need and want attention as well. And they deserve it! And the band also deserves a break.

Singnomore, didn't say that the band isn't going to continue, what they said is that they aren't sure that they'll be another formal tour. And in all honesty, as much as I'd love a new album SOON and another TOUR SOON! I tend to agree with singnomore. Let them take their well deserved break and hopefully, we'll hear a new album in 2023, and see them in concert 2024.

Till a formal announcement is made, all we're doing is speculating.

They have been doing formal tours since 1979. Why would they suddenly stop now? For this band, not having another formal tour would be such a change that it would be essentially, not continuing as a band.
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