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General U2 Discussion / Re: What song have you not heard live, but wish you had?
« Last post by julez728 on June 20, 2018, 06:39:55 AM »
40...I've heard a snippet once or twice, but never heard it end a concert.
Little Things
Wild Horses
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Miami

When I was growing up, I absolutely hated this song. I just could not understand what the heck this song was even about. Then about 2 years ago, something just clicked and suddenly I 'got' it. Now it is one of my favourite songs. Great song to chuck on at the gym as well.
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General U2 Discussion / Re: I Heard A U2 Song On The Radio Today
« Last post by summerholly on June 20, 2018, 05:00:54 AM »
The Sweetest Thing on the drive home
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The Music and Lyrics / Re: Rank U2's albums
« Last post by iced on June 20, 2018, 04:40:45 AM »
Six months later:

1. Zooropa
2. POP
3. Achtung Baby
4. The Joshua Tree
5. The Unforgettable Fire
6. No Line On the Horizon
7. How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb
8. Rattle & Hum
9. All That You Can't Leave Behind
10. Songs of Innoncence
11. Songs of Experience
12  War
13. October
14. Boy
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What's wrong with standing up and being contemplative?
I could just stand there and watch and think about the things going on, as well as dancing and singing along to the stuff that's more celebratory.
I've not seen the show yet, but I understand that it will be hard-hitting of sorts.

I was in the cheaper seats on the top tier for Vertigo 2005 in Manchester.  I was standing and enjoying myself.  Sitting, for the majority of the show, next to us was (the late, great) Gary Speed (then footballer in the Premier League and then later Wales team manager).  He and his wife (very typically footballers wife looking) were fine with us singing and dancing throughout the show.  The only time they stood up was for Beautiful Day, which was at the time the signature tune to the Premier League highlights on ITV.  Gary Speed was so polite and accepting of the fact that we were going nuts enjoying ourselves.

Maybe there should be different types of shows for different settings.
So the band are doing a more contemplative type of indoor set this time around.  The last indoor tour was more reflective (look back at the 1970's and 80's).
They did a big triumphant and successful stadium tour last year which won plaudits.
An amazing set via the BBC accompanied by a concert orchestra which won critical acclaim.
And also an intimate theatre setting staged in an iconic venue where the setlist had to work with no technical gimmicks.  So instead they brought on some very highly rated horn players for a section of the show.
So there could be a different type of show for different 'types' of fan maybe?  I'd like to see them attempt festivals again.
I do also wonder if and when they will do the Royal Albert Hall.  They are probably the biggest music act not to play it (The Stones played there in 1966).
I also wonder if they will ever (in many years' time?) play the stately homes in the UK - a scene that has been burgeoning over that last 15 years or so. 
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They'd have to put an ambient DJ on whilst we all eat our picnics.  Maybe they then play, with a full orchestra, to the diehards standing down the front of the outdoor stage whilst everyone else lounges in their camping chairs full from their meals and the real casuals in gazebos at the back of the arena field.  At least people sitting down probably won't need to complain so much?
So long as they don't get into the 'at the races' scene.  This is where some bands provide some late entertainment after the horse racing at some racecourses.  It's more of a party thing than an opportunity to be taken seriously.  So cue loads of 80's & 90's revival pop acts (Madness, Rick Astley, All Saints type of stuff etc) and a load of (mainly) drunken revellers who've just had a day at the races.
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Don't panic...the band knows that people are sitting and not going nuts... just read this recent interview with Edge in Rolling Stone:

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"It is very somber, but the whole show is challenging. It was very challenging to fit it together and get it to flow and make sense technically and musically and storytelling-wise. The challenge for us is also not to panic if that the thing that most often happens in a U2 show, which is just the place goes completely nuts ... This is a show where people are watching and thinking as well as dancing around the room. And that's OK. Ending on "13" is really not a U2 thing to do. Traditionally we would end on a kind of big crescendo, a big number and leave everyone exhausted. This is a very contemplative place to bring people."

Nothing in there about people sitting down at all! The show is a little different energy wise in some parts from past U2 shows, but not enough to justify anyone sitting down.

Plus 40 used to close most shows in the 1980s and 40 was a rather slow mellow song to end the show on.
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I was at last nightís show in GA and did notice whole sections sitting way up there, but the energy was high lower down.

I have had this discussion with family members who refuse to consider GA because they would have to stand the whole time. I think it is mostly our age, with some portion due to not knowing certain songs. On tours that featured more of the hits they would stand and then sit and then alternate based on whether they knew the song.


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Did your family members ever stand for an entire show before? I've just never known anyone to sit down at a rock concert. I've never seen it at a U2 concert before. So I was stunned and shocked by it.
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The way I look at it is I paid good money for a ticket.  Its not my job to pump up the audience, its the bandís job.  Of course its different for everyone, but I know every song U2 has ever recorded by heart and I found this show boring.  I think Iím not the only one.  The person I was there with also felt it just wasnít the same kind of show theyíve done in the past.  It was partly the setlist but also the energy from the band just wasnít there.  Iíve been a fan of U2 since 1982, but I donít understand worrying about the crowd.  Enjoy the show the way you want to enjoy it and let others do the same.

 
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Were you sitting down during this show?

I've seen U2 23 times since ZOO TV, and I have never found any of their shows, regardless of tour to be "boring". Did you buy the new album? Do you like the new album? If not, then why did you pay to see the show? U2 are NOT the classic rock band that place your local farm show, or town fair every year to play the same hits over and over again. Their doing what they did from day ONE, which is playing and emphasizing NEW MUSIC as well as constructing the show around that NEW MUSIC. Are you really a long time die hard fan, or really just a fan of what they did in the 1980s with knowledge of what they have done since then?


I love the fact that what they have done on this tour is a bit different. One of the best things about this show is NO JOSHUA TREE! Joshua Tree is my second favorite album, but its been played at every show since that tour. I love that the band had the balls to not play any songs from it. There were some ass holes in the crowd in D.C. YELLING for Joshua Tree while Bono was trying to talk.


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I donít understand all the concern about record sales and ticket sales and crowd enthusiasm.  I donít need for millions of people to like what I like in order to enjoy it.

People are interested in the band and in the success of the band. It also impacts what they do and whether they continue on as a band. I still had a great time at the shows I saw despite the people in the mid-levels and upper levels sitting down. But I was shocked to see it. I find it disrespectful to the artist. It also creates problems for fans who naturally want to stand and dance in those sections. If they stand up, they get harassed to sit down.

If you find these issues irrelevant or uninteresting, why take the time to post here about it?
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Don't panic...the band knows that people are sitting and not going nuts... just read this recent interview with Edge in Rolling Stone:

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"It is very somber, but the whole show is challenging. It was very challenging to fit it together and get it to flow and make sense technically and musically and storytelling-wise. The challenge for us is also not to panic if that the thing that most often happens in a U2 show, which is just the place goes completely nuts ... This is a show where people are watching and thinking as well as dancing around the room. And that's OK. Ending on "13" is really not a U2 thing to do. Traditionally we would end on a kind of big crescendo, a big number and leave everyone exhausted. This is a very contemplative place to bring people."
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General U2 Discussion / Re: What song have you not heard live, but wish you had?
« Last post by World71R on June 19, 2018, 11:20:22 PM »
mofo Mofo, Lemon, Gone, I Will Follow, Acrobat (of course), The Fly, Cedarwood Road, Magnificent, Two Hearts Beat as One, Stay, The Little Things, Red Flag Day, Staring at the Sun.

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