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Title: "And in the end..." the future of U2
Post by: TheFlyMacphisto on December 05, 2017, 11:32:22 PM
I've listened to this album a dozen times now and I continue to have the same emotional response to this wonderful collection of songs: this album feels like a farewell record.

I'm interested in getting others thoughts on this.
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Post by: MASTER YODA on December 05, 2017, 11:39:32 PM
I haven’t gotten that impression, but I can see what you’re saying.
Personally, I’d hope they have more of a banger ending
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Post by: Argo on December 06, 2017, 12:26:40 AM
I definitely see why you can think that and maybe it is, but I think when you go back to SOI, Bono said he was challenged to write more about his early years and I see it that SOI and SOE are both born from Bono's examination of his past. And that might mean this is now the end because he has done that, but hopefully it more likely means that they will look at other themes for the next album. I would definitely expect something pretty different next time around (if there is a next time) and hopefully it is towards the more daring elements of NLOTH than the solid but bland Bomb type direction.

 
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Post by: U2Fan on December 06, 2017, 09:33:25 AM
I had thought there was supposed to be three related albums:  SOI, SOE, and SOA (Songs of Ascent). 
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Post by: Allhorizonbomb on December 06, 2017, 12:20:13 PM
I think this is the start of the farewell recording. I think Songs of Ascent if that is what they choose to go with will be there final album. It makes sense in the trilogy and just in the title alone.
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Post by: ProofThatThisIsReal on December 06, 2017, 12:55:13 PM
My ideal outlook on U2's Future:

Songs of Ascent
-finish off the trilogy, 2020

A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius
-everything experimental, 2022

Man
-close off everything that started with Boy, 2026

Caught Up in the In-Betweens:
-all unreleased/unfinished, alt versions, great live versions, recording process outtakes, etc. comprising 466 separate tracks, 2030
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Post by: Allhorizonbomb on December 06, 2017, 05:01:55 PM
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My ideal outlook on U2's Future:

Songs of Ascent
-finish off the trilogy, 2020

A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius
-everything experimental, 2022

Man
-close off everything that started with Boy, 2026

Caught Up in the In-Betweens:
-all unreleased/unfinished, alt versions, great live versions, recording process outtakes, etc. comprising 466 separate tracks, 2030

I love the idea of Man. That would be genius.
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Post by: gigahunter551 on December 06, 2017, 05:29:14 PM
I can sort of see it, but at the same time I feel like they left the album on a more somber note. If they're gonna be done I have a feeling the last song on the album will be "40"-esque -- at least I hope so. I would much prefer them leaving on an upbeat, happy, "look forward to the future even if we're gone" sort of song
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Post by: TheFlyMacphisto on December 06, 2017, 10:32:49 PM
"A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius" would actually be a hysterical final album name.

I would love a satirical album title from the boys again too.
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Post by: DulmoU2 on December 07, 2017, 02:54:46 AM
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"A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius" would actually be a hysterical final album name.

 

Fantastic
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Post by: Basskid on December 07, 2017, 09:47:43 AM
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"A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius" would actually be a hysterical final album name.

I would love a satirical album title from the boys again too.

It's a good book too.
Title: Re: "And in the end..." the future of U2
Post by: mc on December 07, 2017, 02:00:07 PM
I think it crossed their minds that this would be the last album because Bono said Little things would be the last song on the album. However, I think the Trump re-write changed something.
I would like to see one more dark intense studio album with Eno as a sign off
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Post by: ShankAsu on December 07, 2017, 04:08:54 PM
Its over- nothing more to see here...
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Post by: SwimmingSorrows on December 08, 2017, 12:39:42 AM
This isn't their last album.  They've talked about their future in several interviews with no hints at this being the end.  Also that thing they did in Berlin is not the kind of publicity stunt you do for your final album.
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Post by: TongueInMyEar on December 08, 2017, 06:30:09 AM
I don't think this is their last. But part of me would be happy if it was, because I feel it would be a brilliant way to finish. SOE is a late career high for me. But then they could release something even better next time and I'd be glad they carried on  ;D
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Post by: jjcruiser on December 08, 2017, 10:24:25 AM
Doesn't feel like a farewell album to me.  I thought moving Little Things back from the closer to the album, which it was originally slated to be, earlier, and ending with 13, was significant.  Also all the new sounds and collaborations.

Unlike others I guess, I think the Songs of Ascent ship sailed.  It's too overtly scriptural, too evocative of the prior two album's "Songs of" monikers, and I don't think they want to go back to the ambient Passengers feel I got the sense SoA would have been.  But I love the idea of "A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius."  Great post and idea for an album.

Even if the next album's not as good as this one, and I'm still trying to figure out if I think SoE will end up surpassing everything from the 2000s or just its two predecessors, it can still be very good and worth hearing.  There are always gems. 

Heck, I listened to "Big Girls Are Best" last night twice in a row. :)
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Post by: kango on December 08, 2017, 10:53:43 AM
Can't remenber which interview it was as they've done so many recently but I'm sure Bono said this 'coming home' will open up a new chapter.
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Post by: minncognito on December 09, 2017, 05:44:34 PM
I think they'll put out Songs of Ascent as their next and last album.
Title: Re: "And in the end..." the future of U2
Post by: wilburn on December 14, 2017, 05:20:37 PM
Hi Every One , I don’t know if someone of you noticed this strange thing: in love is bigger than anything in its way Bono sings “start singing and stop talking “, while if you look at the back-cover of songs of experience it says:”as you’re walking, STOP SINGING, and START TALKING”.What does that mean?could this  mean soe is their last album (maybe we could read “stop singing” as a return to innocence )?
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Post by: ShankAsu on December 14, 2017, 05:38:03 PM
this is the last album.  until it isn't.
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Post by: DPardue on December 15, 2017, 06:50:09 AM
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I think they'll put out Songs of Ascent as their next and last album.

I have long believed this.  The title is almost prophetic.
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Post by: pan360 on December 15, 2017, 06:53:46 AM
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Doesn't feel like a farewell album to me.  I thought moving Little Things back from the closer to the album, which it was originally slated to be, earlier, and ending with 13, was significant.  Also all the new sounds and collaborations.

Unlike others I guess, I think the Songs of Ascent ship sailed.  It's too overtly scriptural, too evocative of the prior two album's "Songs of" monikers, and I don't think they want to go back to the ambient Passengers feel I got the sense SoA would have been.  But I love the idea of "A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius."  Great post and idea for an album.

Even if the next album's not as good as this one, and I'm still trying to figure out if I think SoE will end up surpassing everything from the 2000s or just its two predecessors, it can still be very good and worth hearing.  There are always gems. 

Heck, I listened to "Big Girls Are Best" last night twice in a row. :)

Songs of Ascent was first mentioned after No Line when they were working Eno / Lanois. So it would be an album produced by them. Even though I do hope that it is still released, it feels like with SOI / SOE U2 have taken a different direction and I doubt that they would go back working with Eno / Lanois. However if this happens, the "A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius." mentioned,  could be a Passengers album.
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Post by: trainfanjacob8 on December 15, 2017, 06:58:27 AM
I think there's a fairly good chance that SOE will not be their last album, maybe one more? Looking ahead, I feel like there's going to be a long stretch (4-6 years) until the next album.
Title: Re: "And in the end..." the future of U2
Post by: pan360 on December 15, 2017, 07:09:02 AM
I don’t feel the same. If the album and tour are successful, I believe they will probably decide to keep up the momentum and release one more album in the next three years. After all they are getting too old for long  breaks…
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Post by: lightmyway92 on December 15, 2017, 07:29:41 AM
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I don’t feel the same. If the album and tour are successful, I believe they will probably decide to keep up the momentum and release one more album in the next three years. After all they are getting too old for long  breaks…
I agree with this.  I think they're aware that time is running short.  I have a feeling the tour will be very successful.  It already seems that the album has been well-received.
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Post by: trainfanjacob8 on December 15, 2017, 09:03:01 AM
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I don’t feel the same. If the album and tour are successful, I believe they will probably decide to keep up the momentum and release one more album in the next three years. After all they are getting too old for long  breaks…


That's true. If there's a six year gap between SOE and the next one, they will be 62-63 years old.
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Post by: aviastar on December 15, 2017, 12:07:24 PM
They can just put out more ordinary love remixes in the meantime.


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Title: Re: "And in the end..." the future of U2
Post by: mc on December 15, 2017, 12:18:05 PM
A Songs Of Ascent EP next year would nicely finish off this phase and hopefully propel them into a final few studio albums of deep dark heavy nature..