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General U2 Discussion / Re: Little Things Album version
« Last post by radiofreenewport on December 13, 2017, 02:38:46 PM »
I like the album version, but I agree on the piano version -- I like it much better.
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General U2 Discussion / Re: All 218 U2 songs ranked
« Last post by Allhorizonbomb on December 13, 2017, 02:36:07 PM »
Yeah putting Mercy and Always at the very bottom of the list when they should be top 50 is crap. I do like how they gave No Line on The Horizon a lot of the higher spots though.
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General U2 Discussion / Re: Little Things Album version
« Last post by Allhorizonbomb on December 13, 2017, 02:34:26 PM »
Yeah agree. The album version has too many things going on with it at once. Also I hate how the cut out half of the first chorus. Why? No reason for it except to make the song feel more rushed. Still a good song, but that Jimmy Kimmel version is still by far the best.
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General U2 Discussion / Re: U2 "Myths"
« Last post by ckamp on December 13, 2017, 02:15:31 PM »
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
-Mark Twain Bono

I think the stories Bono tells are true to the moment of interpretation or the impact of the events on him. The exact timing of events may be off, but the pieces that are there leave a psychological mark. They shaped him and he shares the impact of the events truthfully. I think many of us do this without realizing it too.
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News and Rumors / Re: Bono and Edge Interviewed by Howard Stern
« Last post by bw on December 13, 2017, 01:54:17 PM »
I've listened to Stern for a long, long time. Tailed off quite a bit when Artie left.

I'll never forget when AB came out. Stern actually liked it but hated how most of the songs started with, as he put it, "unnecessary bullsh-t....just sing the song." He really like One and Loves is Blindness.

Here is my question. What did Stern say AFTER Bono and Edge left? I'd love to hear that post mortem. I don't think Fred is a big U2 fan, so I'd be curious if Stern asked Fred to chime in...I think Gary is a huge fan, btw...
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General U2 Discussion / Re: U2 "Myths"
« Last post by binary_code on December 13, 2017, 01:53:20 PM »
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There is one U2 myth that bothers me more than the others.  I wrote about in 2015 here You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

I copied and pasted my main point below.

Just wondering if anyone can explain something for me.  I remember having a few bootlegs on cassettes back in the late 80’s where Bono would introduce “Bad” by saying something like “this is a song about a good friend of ours who on his 21st birthday was given enough heroin to kill him… this is a song called ‘Bad,’” or something like that.  And I also seem to remember reading somewhere (a few times) that the song was about “survivor’s guilt” or how people deal with the death of a loved one from drugs.

Anywho – when reading the notes for Songs of Innocence, Bono mentions that “Raised By Wolves” is also written about the same person (Andy Rowen) and the bombing described in this song, it is inferred, is what turns him onto heroin. 

Through the years in concert, Bono has described “Bad” as being about Andy Rowen specifically (who was alive and well enough to have the song dedicated to him at a U2 show in Pittsburgh in 2011, by the way)…..  To Bono at his most 80’s-Bonoesque talkin’ about the rich getting’ richer and the poor with needles hangin’ from their arms and all the sufferin’ in the world…  To specifically mentioning someone named Gareth Spaulding who died of a heroin overdose. 

So is Bono continually making stuff up?  Protecting the innocent?  Too drunk to remember?  What do you think?  This kind of thing has always bothered me about U2 – sometimes it seems they mythologize themselves and rewrite their own past.  And for no good reason, really.


Couldn't it be that Bad was written mostly with one person in mind (say Andy Rowen) and then have been dedicated to other people/situations over the years as something that resonates with the songs theme becomes more premanent. I.e. other people getting into heorin. Although the person Bono had in mind while writing the song did survive (I've never heard him claim otherwise?), I don't think it would be weird if the song also contained reflections around 'survivor's guilt' as you tend to think a lot about what might happen and worst case scenarios suddenly seem clearer when someone close to you are on a path that could end their life.

However in general, I think if there is inconsistency in the stories Bono tells, it is part forgetfulness (as if I would remember if an event ocurred a day or a week after another, 30 years ago!), part getting carried away in the moment and having a hinge for exaggeration/melodrama, and part trying to see connections when sometimes there are not. I don't think he would intentionally lie to people about their stories, however the exaggeration/melodrama-thing definitely can pose a challenge to the definite truth.

Another thing I've been thinking about lately, U2 are surrounded by myths! Whether you're a fan of their music or not, no one can deny that their story is fascinating. That was one of the things that actually got me interested in the band initially - almost equally as the music itself! Actually, that alone sets them apart from alot of other artists and bands nowadays. The fact that they have such a long, fascinating story and I do agree, some parts are close to becoming almost mythical.
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General U2 Discussion / Re: All 218 U2 songs ranked
« Last post by lucas.homem on December 13, 2017, 01:41:06 PM »
Honestly, I think the concept is a little dumb, but if they (and the readers) had fun, I guess it's fine.
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General U2 Discussion / Re: Will SOE be U2’s last album
« Last post by Sunchild on December 13, 2017, 01:28:19 PM »
SOE is U2's last album, until there's another one. It's easy to image U2 playing and releasing new music for the next 25-30 years at the very least. U2 are certainly about to be one of the longest running bands in history. The form might change, but not the spirit and life of a band.
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General U2 Discussion / Re: All 218 U2 songs ranked
« Last post by 1985 on December 13, 2017, 01:26:58 PM »
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Wild Honey ranked better than The Troubles?

Zero Credibility Achieved.

Yeah, it's craziness. She's too harsh on SOI, too kind to ATYCLB. Doesn't share my ear at all for where the band is at the peak of its genius (Lemon, White As Snow, The Troubles, Please) and where it's overrated (Walk On, Elevation, EBTTRT, Rattle and Hum).

But the sheer level of effort that went into it...
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The Music and Lyrics / Re: This SOE Song Reminds Me of......
« Last post by Popette on December 13, 2017, 01:19:33 PM »
The very beginning of Blackout reminds me of Zoo Station.
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