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Title: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: BalconyTV on February 27, 2018, 10:52:11 PM
When No Line came out, they hinted they had another one ready soon - Songs of Ascent. We were excited.

When SOI came out, they said SOE would come soon. We were excited (maybe a little less so).

Now... are we ok with their haul. I can't see there being one for sometime now. Tour will take a toll. They won't turn around one in 3 years, thats for sure. 5 maybe. But I would be surprised if they find a new motivation to do it again.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: xy on February 28, 2018, 01:43:15 AM
That's ok. Given the waits for Bomb and No Line, SOE was a decent wait.

I don't know...the wait might be shorter than we think if they will turn to Eno/Lanois and Songs of Ascent.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: iced on February 28, 2018, 04:34:36 AM
No, it's not.

I disagree.

This is more or less the same stuff the band has recorded over and over again.

It sounds like a group sounding like they did in 2000 more or less.

All the charts and singles don't matter anymore.

It's time to take off the crown (as the worlds biggest band) and make a true follow up to POP after all these years.

...as the worlds most interesting band on the planet.

And blow off the ego...

I don't want to see them performing [ever again] on a floating dud into an abyss segwaying for the next commercial break on the next Grammy's...

Get out the guns and blow out all the bullets left in the arsenal.

Every review of the album I've read seems to conjure up this exact same thought.

It was a good run...but it's actually kinda nice to do something different...

It's been 20 ***** years already...
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: JFW on February 28, 2018, 04:35:35 AM
Jup, that's my feeling to. And I find peace with it. Altough I hope they'll come with a new album soon I'm afraid it won't be good for U2.

I hope they'll be from now on more like a band who doesn't tour necessarily aroudn an album, but just giving it another format. They could also make album more like OS1, i.e. just go to another gerne (even dance, house or hip-hop, if they really have to), and don't overblow it like a commercial album.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: summerholly on February 28, 2018, 05:05:19 AM
They have given me enough good music over the years to not care either way.  I am sure they could totally tour for awhile to come on what they already have if they felt so inclined and come to some of the countries they have missed for so long.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: wons on February 28, 2018, 08:59:35 AM
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When No Line came out, they hinted they had another one ready soon - Songs of Ascent. We were excited.

When SOI came out, they said SOE would come soon. We were excited (maybe a little less so).

Now... are we ok with their haul. I can't see there being one for sometime now. Tour will take a toll. They won't turn around one in 3 years, thats for sure. 5 maybe. But I would be surprised if they find a new motivation to do it again.

Nope. I'm always ready for a new album. There was a time when artist came out with albums every year and toured every year. I would love to have Songs of Ascent this year. That would be awesome.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: Rasmus on March 01, 2018, 02:06:03 AM
I'm ok with a longer period between albums as long as the albums are good. I would gladly wait 10 years if the result is another album on Achtung Baby level. The issue is waiting 5 years for an album like NLOTH.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: Hwy 190 on March 01, 2018, 03:15:23 AM
Bring on Songs of Accent.

Honesty, they're as good as ever ...we've just become spoiled and expect too much.

The Joshua Tree 2017 Tour brought out the fair weather fans.  I'm hopeful the upcoming 2018 Tour will focus on the core fan's demands we all read here in this forum and deliver the less know, or even better, the never-been-played-live-before songs.

If the recent BBC concert featuring the Walk to the Water snippet at the end of All I Want Is You was a preview of things to come, we're all in for a true fan show this spring.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: CLarryG on March 02, 2018, 09:32:31 AM
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No, it's not.

I disagree.

This is more or less the same stuff the band has recorded over and over again.

It sounds like a group sounding like they did in 2000 more or less.

All the charts and singles don't matter anymore.

It's time to take off the crown (as the worlds biggest band) and make a true follow up to POP after all these years.

...as the worlds most interesting band on the planet.

And blow off the ego...

I don't want to see them performing [ever again] on a floating dud into an abyss segwaying for the next commercial break on the next Grammy's...

Get out the guns and blow out all the bullets left in the arsenal.

Every review of the album I've read seems to conjure up this exact same thought.

It was a good run...but it's actually kinda nice to do something different...

It's been 20 ***** years already...



Ditto!
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: hollywoodswag on March 02, 2018, 11:45:20 AM
I'm not really craving a new album. I want deluxe editions of Zooropa through NLOTH (a proper version of the latter with songs like Mercy and the remixes) with all the rarities, remixes, etc. There's so much good music left there that isn't readily available (i.e. on iTunes, etc.) that would be nice to have on some reissues, and I'd like to see those.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: wons on March 02, 2018, 04:36:57 PM
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I'm not really craving a new album. I want deluxe editions of Zooropa through NLOTH (a proper version of the latter with songs like Mercy and the remixes) with all the rarities, remixes, etc. There's so much good music left there that isn't readily available (i.e. on iTunes, etc.) that would be nice to have on some reissues, and I'd like to see those.

A final version of Mercy and Winter are going to be on the Songs Of Ascent Album.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: Johnny Feathers on April 13, 2018, 06:05:02 PM
I donít know how a new album is even an issue. We havenít even seen the start for the tour supporting the album that was just released a few months ago.

Seriously, was anyone talking about a new album in February 1992?


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Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: connorfin22 on April 13, 2018, 08:51:52 PM
Not since one was just released.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: mstevensmcs on April 13, 2018, 11:34:47 PM
As one of U2's original audience (81'), the last record since Pop that really got me going was NLOTH. Longtime fans of any long-lived band, or artist, know the dry spells that come with a career measured in decades: The Who's Face Dances era, Dylan's post-gospel downtime until 89's resurgence with "Oh Mercy" (produced by Lanois), Neil Young's going wherever the hell he pleases (hint: go for the ride), even Metallica's lasted long enough that my 14 year old guitar student is griping about the records now. I suspect that the band will call in Eno and Lanois to make their last record. When that happens?....who knows.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: World71R on April 14, 2018, 12:50:04 AM
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No, it's not.

I disagree.

This is more or less the same stuff the band has recorded over and over again.

It sounds like a group sounding like they did in 2000 more or less.

All the charts and singles don't matter anymore.

It's time to take off the crown (as the worlds biggest band) and make a true follow up to POP after all these years.

...as the worlds most interesting band on the planet.

And blow off the ego...

I don't want to see them performing [ever again] on a floating dud into an abyss segwaying for the next commercial break on the next Grammy's...

Get out the guns and blow out all the bullets left in the arsenal.

Every review of the album I've read seems to conjure up this exact same thought.

It was a good run...but it's actually kinda nice to do something different...

It's been 20 ***** years already...

Even though I do enjoy what U2 has put out, being that they are my favorite band, I totally agree. I would love to see them shake it up and totally turn people's heads again with the music and themes they put out, a la the '90s albums. Have The Edge go crazy with whatever wicked guitar effects he can up, like he did in the '90s, have Adam and Larry dive into experimenting with whatever, and for Bono to lead the charge with whatever he can conjure up. Eno and Lanois, of course, would be great to have, but it would be cool to see if they could get other producers to try and really push them one last time. It's a pipe dream, but it's a damn good one at that.  ;)
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: laoghaire on April 14, 2018, 05:42:59 AM
I think they should do what they want. I'm not craving a new album because I'm still eating my current meal, SOE, and it's very satisfying to me.

If they announce a new album down the road? Yes, I'll be super excited.

I'm not even so sure SOE and SOI weren't reinventions of Pop level. I've never heard anything like Troubles or Wolves, and SLaBT is, wow, I challenge anyone to name the song(s) it sounds too much like. SOE has some flaws in that certain lyrics were repeated too many times, but it is deep and quality and fresh and new. Little Things does go back to the classic U2 sound - in a wonderful way - and The Blackout also has a Fly kind of feel musically (also in a good way) but overall it's new and fresh. Red Flag Day, just wow.

SOE is complex and it takes a while to grow the ears than can hear how much ass it kicks.

They blew me away in 2018, 30 years after they first did that to me (fan since 1988). I'm satisfied. And if they announce a new album? Sign me up. They've proved themselves to me - again!
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: wons on April 14, 2018, 06:52:42 AM
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No, it's not.

I disagree.

This is more or less the same stuff the band has recorded over and over again.

It sounds like a group sounding like they did in 2000 more or less.

All the charts and singles don't matter anymore.

It's time to take off the crown (as the worlds biggest band) and make a true follow up to POP after all these years.

...as the worlds most interesting band on the planet.

And blow off the ego...

I don't want to see them performing [ever again] on a floating dud into an abyss segwaying for the next commercial break on the next Grammy's...

Get out the guns and blow out all the bullets left in the arsenal.

Every review of the album I've read seems to conjure up this exact same thought.

It was a good run...but it's actually kinda nice to do something different...

It's been 20 ***** years already...

I would hope that they don't return to an album that was a failure because they put an unfinished album out do to the demands of launching a massive tour. Pop probably needed another year of work including several re-writes of the material and maybe some new songs. They admitted at the end of 1998 that it was a mistake and one they would never repeat again.

Next up is Songs Of Ascent. After that I want to hear that album they were making with Rick Rubin.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: McSwilly on April 14, 2018, 09:22:50 AM
There hasn't been any good new music in  years. They can just be the biggest live band in the world.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: laoghaire on April 14, 2018, 09:49:02 AM
Sorry to post again but I've been musing.

SOE is NOT a "safe" album. They took a lot of risks, they stretched a lot of muscles. That's precisely why people are having a difficult time with it.

If you don't like the album, that's 100% cool. But I would like to challenge those who see it as "safe" to really examine that assumption.

WoWY was musically very simple and safe, even if the lyrics were more challenging than they appeared on their face. We all love Bad and it is very powerful emotionally but I think Little Things kicks Bad's ass - emotionally, lyrically, musically, in terms of pacing and structure. Bad is basically a simple song that hit a spot emotionally; Little Things is the mature and skilled version that lost none of the raw emotional power.

I don't even know if I like LIAWHL but it's not safe. It's different, weird, creative. I have my quibbles with the song, but not that they played it safe, no way.

GOOYOW has a lot of criticism, and American Soul seems to be considered the weak point of the album, and that may be so, but those songs are not safe. They aren't lazy either.

Red Flag Day is one of the finest songs they have ever done, both accessible sonically while deeply meaningful lyrically, and it's not a simple song.

Listening again to some of their older stuff recently, I hear that many of their songs were a lot "easier" to hear. I think that the easiest thing in the world for them to do would be to come up with a simple song that pleases the ear the first time like WoWY. But in SOE they did a lot more work, and I think it requires more work for us as listeners. I'm speaking as someone who was severely underwhelmed by the album the first ten or so times I listened to it.

Sorry to go on but I just wanted to challenge assumptions. It's easy to assume the old songs were the best for a variety of factors, but I think the factors have less to do with any decrease in quality than people may think. Also, those who love Pop, don't forget how many consider it trash. It doesn't mean that it is trash, or that they played it safe or phoned it in or didn't have it in them anymore.

I joined this forum recently for one reason: I was (eventually) so blown away by SOE. (And it's a great feeling to find your heroes exceeded your expectations again).
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: wons on April 14, 2018, 12:24:28 PM
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There hasn't been any good new music in  years. They can just be the biggest live band in the world.

I wouldn't bother following a band that had not produced any good new music in years.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: georgemccauley on April 14, 2018, 06:02:11 PM
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As one of U2's original audience (81'), the last record since Pop that really got me going was NLOTH. Longtime fans of any long-lived band, or artist, know the dry spells that come with a career measured in decades: The Who's Face Dances era, Dylan's post-gospel downtime until 89's resurgence with "Oh Mercy" (produced by Lanois), Neil Young's going wherever the hell he pleases (hint: go for the ride), even Metallica's lasted long enough that my 14 year old guitar student is griping about the records now. I suspect that the band will call in Eno and Lanois to make their last record. When that happens?....who knows.

Iíd definitely like to see them record another album with Eno and Lanois again, throw Lillywhite and Flood in the mix too. If it has to be their last then so be it

While I like SOI and SOE, there is a feeling to both records that they are trying to sound young and fresh, I think the likes of Tedder and Jacknife Lee have really given U2 a different sound.

The albums that Eno and Lanois produced are the U2 that I love, they know the band better than anyone and I hope we get a return to that level of songwriting again
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: georgemccauley on April 14, 2018, 06:08:10 PM
And I think this tour could tell us a lot. If they are planning to play a lot of rarities and a lot of fan requests and longer sets then I would say that they very much can do another experiential album. Another go at Pop in this day and age could sound incredible


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Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: georgemccauley on April 14, 2018, 06:08:52 PM
And according to the LN contract they are due one more album before the end of 2020....


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Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: Clarky on April 15, 2018, 12:15:59 AM
I get a feeling they'll eventually get one more album out and it probably won't be amazing but they'll find enough energy to do it once more.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: 73October on April 15, 2018, 10:24:37 AM
I will always look forward to the prospect of a new album for as long as they can keep turning them out. 

I'm enjoying the current one, and having just read Sherry Lawrence's essay on Achtung Baby vs Songs of Experience, it confirmed something I had been thinking about. AB was sonically groundbreaking, but was a hard album to birth.  SOE is maybe not as sonically groundbreaking, but lyrically and musically it is better - tighter and more complete through maturity and experience.  U2 certainly seem to have age on their side.  SOE is, for me, up there in the top finishers.

If all the U2 albums were in a horse race; TJT would win by a clear length, followed by AB by a neck in front of SOE, which would beat Pop by a nose.  It would be a close finish for second, third and fourth.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: david on April 15, 2018, 02:51:50 PM
I can't believe anyone could seriously suggest that SOE is better than AB. AB is the sound of one of the best bands of all time at the peak of their powers, creatively, sonically and lyrically. SOE is a solid by-the-book album from a bunch of 50 something multi-millionaires, it's very good for what it is but won't be remembered in years to come. In their early days U2 always wanted to be like The Who and now they are, albeit 'Wire and Glass' era The Who.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: Rasmus on April 15, 2018, 02:57:36 PM
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I can't believe anyone could seriously suggest that SOE is better than AB. AB is the sound of one of the best bands of all time at the peak of their powers, creatively, sonically and lyrically. SOE is a solid by-the-book album from a bunch of 50 something multi-millionaires, it's very good for what it is but won't be remembered in years to come. In their early days U2 always wanted to be like The Who and now they are, albeit 'Wire and Glass' era The Who.

Totally agree. AB is not just on another level from SOE its in another dimension. I read that essay on @U2 and I dont think I agreed with a single point in it. AB is better sonically, lyrically, musically... it's just way superior on every single level. SOE isnt even the best U2 album this millenium.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: Argo on April 15, 2018, 07:02:07 PM
I don't expect a new album for around 5 years. And I don't really understand the expectation some have on Songs of Ascent coming at all let alone any time soon. Best you can hope for is some fanclub type release of previously unreleased material and maybe songs like Mercy, All My Life and others might come out that way. I wish it was different as SOI and SOE are quite good, but I just don't see it.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: ian ryan on April 16, 2018, 12:34:18 AM
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No, it's not.

I disagree.

This is more or less the same stuff the band has recorded over and over again.

It sounds like a group sounding like they did in 2000 more or less.

All the charts and singles don't matter anymore.

It's time to take off the crown (as the worlds biggest band) and make a true follow up to POP after all these years.

...as the worlds most interesting band on the planet.

And blow off the ego...

I don't want to see them performing [ever again] on a floating dud into an abyss segwaying for the next commercial break on the next Grammy's...

Get out the guns and blow out all the bullets left in the arsenal.

Every review of the album I've read seems to conjure up this exact same thought.

It was a good run...but it's actually kinda nice to do something different...

It's been 20 ***** years already...

Fundamentally I agree, but the band have made it clear they don't agree. Bono said they could go into the studio again and add a bunch of noise effects to their songs, which is evidently what they thought they were doing on Zooropa and Pop, but the band wasn't interested in doing that anymore. I think it is one of the big gaps between the band and a group of their fans: the fans (myself included) think that what they did with AB, Zooropa, and Pop were very engaging sonic experiments, but U2 think it was just a bunch of studio effects that weren't very relevant to the basic songs. The band and a section of the fans come at their '90s work from very different directions, and I don't know if the two sides will ever meet again.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: 73October on April 16, 2018, 11:54:13 AM
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No, it's not.

I disagree.

This is more or less the same stuff the band has recorded over and over again.

It sounds like a group sounding like they did in 2000 more or less.

All the charts and singles don't matter anymore.

It's time to take off the crown (as the worlds biggest band) and make a true follow up to POP after all these years.

...as the worlds most interesting band on the planet.

And blow off the ego...

I don't want to see them performing [ever again] on a floating dud into an abyss segwaying for the next commercial break on the next Grammy's...

Get out the guns and blow out all the bullets left in the arsenal.

Every review of the album I've read seems to conjure up this exact same thought.

It was a good run...but it's actually kinda nice to do something different...

It's been 20 ***** years already...

Fundamentally I agree, but the band have made it clear they don't agree. Bono said they could go into the studio again and add a bunch of noise effects to their songs, which is evidently what they thought they were doing on Zooropa and Pop, but the band wasn't interested in doing that anymore. I think it is one of the big gaps between the band and a group of their fans: the fans (myself included) think that what they did with AB, Zooropa, and Pop were very engaging sonic experiments, but U2 think it was just a bunch of studio effects that weren't very relevant to the basic songs. The band and a section of the fans come at their '90s work from very different directions, and I don't know if the two sides will ever meet again.

Maybe go and buy the Beck remix of Lights of Home if you want fancy arrangements and noises then? (it is a very good remix btw).
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: eldercantrell@yahoo.com on April 16, 2018, 09:23:41 PM
Where did you hear the beck remix if i might ask? I really like Beck and am looking forward to it. Would love to hear it.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: World71R on April 16, 2018, 11:00:23 PM
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And I think this tour could tell us a lot. If they are planning to play a lot of rarities and a lot of fan requests and longer sets then I would say that they very much can do another experiential album. Another go at Pop in this day and age could sound incredible


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It would never happen, but I'd love to see the PopMart set get recreated to a certain degree with some of the amazing visuals used on the two most recent tours. Could you imagine songs like Mofo, Discotheque, and Lemon getting performed with that and with energy like they had on songs like Exit during TJT30 tour? That would be epic.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: robert on April 18, 2018, 03:54:13 AM
I know I'm not craving a new U2 album anymore.
For me U2 reminds me of my youth or adolescence. I'm my bedroom studying for uni
listening to zooropa and achtung baby.
Or even growing up hearing beautiful day on the radio.
Where as now, they can't get on the radio anymore.
At least in the UK.
I've gone passed the excitement stage now.
I probably won't even listen to a new U2 album.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: wons on April 18, 2018, 04:42:49 AM
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I know I'm not craving a new U2 album anymore.
For me U2 reminds me of my youth or adolescence. I'm my bedroom studying for uni
listening to zooropa and achtung baby.
Or even growing up hearing beautiful day on the radio.
Where as now, they can't get on the radio anymore.
At least in the UK.
I've gone passed the excitement stage now.
I probably won't even listen to a new U2 album.

Just because your local radio won't play new U2 songs does not mean such songs are not great and as exciting as anything U2 have done before. If you like U2's older stuff, its highly likely you'll like their newer stuff if you give it chances, many listens. They are still a rock band making great rock music.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: 73October on April 18, 2018, 11:54:42 AM
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Where did you hear the beck remix if i might ask? I really like Beck and am looking forward to it. Would love to hear it.

On YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNVLfTlCxDg

Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: Manos73 on April 18, 2018, 11:17:00 PM
There is a disconnect between the fan's sense of their music and the band's sense of their popularity. Of course there is more than one fan response. In general, however, the fans have been less interested in their latest records then the ones in their past. It's not clear the band agrees or even knows this. Or if they do agree, it's nothing they ever are honest about in communication with the fans.

Which leads to this distrust for many of us. We get the Bono PR machine on "this is the next Pop!" every time and then it's so far from that every time. Some basic human honestly is all I ask. 
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: laoghaire on April 19, 2018, 06:04:46 AM
I mean, what qualifies as honesty to you? They think the album is great - and it is. You want them to say it sucks? And that somehow will raise them a bit in your esteem?

In addition to the album being great, though admittedly a tough nut to crack, how do you think they can create music if they think it sucks? How can they put themselves out there, on recordings, at appearances, and on stage, if they don't believe in what they've created?

If the opinion of some fans who think they ought to be ashamed of their work was enough to make them stand down, we would have never even heard of them.

And what would that accomplish?

Don't like the album? Fine. But to demand that they "admit" a shame toward it that they don't feel? What?
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: Manos73 on April 19, 2018, 07:36:04 AM
Not saying any of that. Most bands, by their age, have a more realistic outlook. All we get is bluster. It's one reason they're so polarizing in ways other bands are able to avoid.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: laoghaire on April 19, 2018, 07:43:02 AM
They are polarizing indeed, but it's not recent, so it's about something else.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: wons on April 19, 2018, 08:06:42 AM
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Not saying any of that. Most bands, by their age, have a more realistic outlook. All we get is bluster. It's one reason they're so polarizing in ways other bands are able to avoid.

They were indeed honest about Pop as being a mistake they would never repeat again. Their age? U2 or any band for that matter, does not have to act or behave a certain way because of their age. Their adults and they are allowed to do all the things adults do. Does not matter if your 21 or 101. U2 have a better idea of what their doing and how to do it than ANYONE out there. Their 40 year career to this point proves that. Its their life an work and they can do whatever the hell they want with it just as they have done for day one. Age is just a number and anyone attempting to put them in box because of age has some learning to do.
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: 73October on April 19, 2018, 11:42:18 AM


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Not saying any of that. Most bands, by their age, have a more realistic outlook. All we get is bluster. It's one reason they're so polarizing in ways other bands are able to avoid.

We've always had bluster.  Since the beginning.  Get used to it, it won't change.


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They were indeed honest about Pop as being a mistake they would never repeat again. Their age? U2 or any band for that matter, does not have to act or behave a certain way because of their age. Their adults and they are allowed to do all the things adults do. Does not matter if your 21 or 101. U2 have a better idea of what their doing and how to do it than ANYONE out there. Their 40 year career to this point proves that. Its their life an work and they can do whatever the hell they want with it just as they have done for day one. Age is just a number and anyone attempting to put them in box because of age has some learning to do.

Agree on the Pop point.  The band were not proud of Pop and believe it unfinished.  Although many of us fans rate it as one of their best.

Agree on the comment about their longevity.  There is no other band who have existed for as long as U2 have with no line up changes (other than Dik Evans leaving) and with no hiatus/split.

Not so sure about the comment they can do what the hell they want.  On one hand, they can as they are decision makers.  On the other hand, they then seem to feel duty bound to 'please' the masses.  Except reading this thread, it appears that they may not be achieving this....!
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: georgemccauley on April 19, 2018, 12:23:20 PM
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And I think this tour could tell us a lot. If they are planning to play a lot of rarities and a lot of fan requests and longer sets then I would say that they very much can do another experiential album. Another go at Pop in this day and age could sound incredible


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It would never happen, but I'd love to see the PopMart set get recreated to a certain degree with some of the amazing visuals used on the two most recent tours. Could you imagine songs like Mofo, Discotheque, and Lemon getting performed with that and with energy like they had on songs like Exit during TJT30 tour? That would be epic.

I wouldn't put it past them to get as creative again. In the live shows there's very little else they can do that's not already been done. I agree that recreating some of the visual, maybe intertwining them would be an epic spectacle. And yes Exit last year is the blueprint we want to see right now
Title: Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
Post by: Vox on April 19, 2018, 12:37:51 PM
Obviously, I still love my band and love that their putting out new albums.  I treasure this time, because I know itís not going to last forever.  But I think for the first time in my life, Iíd be ďokayĒ if U2 decided to call it a day. 

I like all U2 albums, but I didnít care for Songs of Innocence, as far a U2 record goes.  And when Songs of Experience came out, after a couple of weeks I thought it would eventually end up in that same barrel.  But as winter has turned to spring (sorta), Songs of Experience continues to reveal itself to me, and for that Iím grateful.  I didnít think it would happen.  I cherish this precious time with new U2 music. 

Part of me has been waiting for a U2 album with psychedelic cascading waves of guitar, ala Achtung BabyÖ  an All That You Canít Leave Behind record that pulls more from the 90s than it does from the 80sÖ  But Iím not so sure thatís going to happen anymore.  And thatís fine.  Iíd also love to hear an album of ambient, moody sounds that you should listen to late at night on headphones that arenít meant to be played liveÖ  something like how Songs of Ascent has been describedÖ

But if that doesnít happen, itís all good.  Theyíve given me so much already.  Quite honestly, Iíd be the most shocked Iíve ever been by this band if they release an album before 2021Ö if any album of new material ever again (and this is someone who was a puzzled and slack-jawed as any, listening the night Achtung Baby was released)Ö.  In my opinion, I do think ďthe end is near.Ē