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The Music and Lyrics / Re: Do you think Songs Of Innocence is underrated?
« Last post by laoghaire on December 15, 2018, 04:32:33 PM »
It was a misunderstanding and it was my fault. I wish I could undo my weird post - not the one about the song but the one after - but I can't. Nobody actually tried to shut me down. Sorry again for derailing the thread, but everything is okay.
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The Music and Lyrics / Re: Do you think Songs Of Innocence is underrated?
« Last post by Luzita on December 15, 2018, 04:00:11 PM »
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Arghhhh I really blew it and I'm really sorry to everyone. 

It would make sense if I could explain but it doesn't matter because in my attempt to not be an a****** I managed to do an a****** thing by posting drama (I love the peaceful life dammit). I realize now what I should have done, too late.

Very sorry for that, and sorry that u2music unregistered and we lost a contributor to this forum. I hope they come back.

And to a particular person, you know who you are, reread my Troubles post again. It was for you, but only in a good way. Everything you were afraid of about me wasn't true.
I also don’t understand what’s going on but what I know is that your post about the song’s meaning was deeply insightful and a great contribution to the forum, as your posts usually are. I considered the song to be about domestic abuse specifically but, as you pointed out, it can cover other forms of abuse that are intended to belittle and oppress people and rob them of the freedom and dignity to which they are entitled.

Speaking of which, a particularly sneaky and pernicious form of oppression which seems to have infected our society is the tactic of trying to shut people down by claiming they have said something “offensive” or “harmful.” I listen when someone seems hurt, and try to fix whatever misunderstanding may have occurred, or error on my part if there is one, but I also know that in the end I am only responsible for my own words and intentions, and I have a right to express myself. I do not have the power to control or heal whatever is going on inside another person.


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Fun and Games / Re: A-Z tv shows
« Last post by CaraRR on December 15, 2018, 02:14:41 PM »
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Fun and Games / Re: A-Z Band names
« Last post by CaraRR on December 15, 2018, 02:13:50 PM »
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The Music and Lyrics / Re: It's hard to listen while you preach
« Last post by Tortuga on December 15, 2018, 01:15:54 PM »
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No, it's about the nail, you just didn't hammer in the spot I was looking at.

I do agree it's likely not about a romantic relationship - so few are. Could have been extremely general from the outset but it's hard to be inspired to create in generalities so I suspect he had some idea in mind but pulled back to a wide view or blurred the picture a bit. Could be band mates but if you wanted me to lay a bet, I think it could be his father.

But, my point is, I think there are two characters - "me" and "someone else." And not "just me musing about myself to myself." Otherwise how can you go your way and I go mine?

So I would have really liked it if he had said "we" there, and I'm sure U2 will be getting right on my complaint and resolving it to my satisfaction pronto. It's just good customer service after all.

I've put in my 500 pounds.
I think the difference is that I don’t believe song lyrics or poetry are intended be interpreted legalistically.  Whether its grammer or something like this they don’t need to be “correct”.  That’s for essays and news stories.  Its the looseness and fuzziness that makes it art instead of journalism.


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The Music and Lyrics / Re: It's hard to listen while you preach
« Last post by laoghaire on December 15, 2018, 01:05:39 PM »
No, it's about the nail, you just didn't hammer in the spot I was looking at.

I do agree it's likely not about a romantic relationship - so few are. Could have been extremely general from the outset but it's hard to be inspired to create in generalities so I suspect he had some idea in mind but pulled back to a wide view or blurred the picture a bit. Could be band mates but if you wanted me to lay a bet, I think it could be his father.

But, my point is, I think there are two characters - "me" and "someone else." And not "just me musing about myself to myself." Otherwise how can you go your way and I go mine?

So I would have really liked it if he had said "we" there, and I'm sure U2 will be getting right on my complaint and resolving it to my satisfaction pronto. It's just good customer service after all.

I've put in my 500 pounds.
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The Music and Lyrics / Re: It's hard to listen while you preach
« Last post by Tortuga on December 15, 2018, 12:50:03 PM »
Darn!  I really wanted to solve this for you but I guess its not about the nail.  ;)


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The Music and Lyrics / Re: It's hard to listen while you preach
« Last post by laoghaire on December 15, 2018, 12:21:05 PM »
Because I don't believe the "you" is a royal "we."
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The Music and Lyrics / It's hard to listen while you preach
« Last post by Tortuga on December 15, 2018, 12:09:57 PM »
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I don't think there is, either; I just think it sucks.
I’m curious what it is bothering you about it.  The “you” is the same person throughout the song.  Its not someone specific to the singer.  The song is about the way we humans all tend to be.  Its not being sung to a specific individual.  The we is collective as in all we humans.  The you is “self”.  So its the singer and the listener.  Its not a love song.  Its a commentary on how we all live our lives randomly letting things happen to us instead of having the courage to make decisions.  And how we abandon the decisions we’ve made thinking the grass is always greener.


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The Music and Lyrics / Re: It's hard to listen while you preach
« Last post by laoghaire on December 15, 2018, 11:28:39 AM »
I don't think there is, either; I just think it sucks.
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