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Title: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: the_chief on July 13, 2017, 07:00:51 AM
to ban phones from gigs?

I don't mind taking pics etc. That's fine.

But, sweet Jesus....Why are you paying 100 quid or so to go to a gig and then film it and watch it through your phone?
It kills the atmosphere completely and looks stupid
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: briscoetheque on July 13, 2017, 07:10:46 AM
Milky Chance, St Vincent, Prince... All have done it. It's great, having seen all three.

Prince's people were the most militant about it though. Worked well
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: the_chief on July 13, 2017, 07:27:56 AM
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Milky Chance, St Vincent, Prince... All have done it. It's great, having seen all three.

Prince's people were the most militant about it though. Worked well

Just ban them!! :(

It has ruined going to gigs.
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: briscoetheque on July 13, 2017, 07:37:47 AM
It's certainly disminished the energy in the crowd. Completely agree.
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: Nikb on July 13, 2017, 08:36:51 AM
I was stood in Red Zone and a number of folks were 'watching' the show through a mobile phone. These are people who have paid £275 to get in , I ask myself why ? Not a problem filming from the seats as it doesn't obstruct other folks' view but stood up with a phone above one's head does obstruct views for the one's stood behind. People get a life and enjoy the moment. Leave it in your pocket.
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: benpoke on July 13, 2017, 11:35:20 AM
After watching U2's I&E London show through the phones of the people in front of me I vowed never to stand at a gig again.

The bonus was that I got lots of nods from Adam Clayton as I was the only person in front of him without my phone in the air.

I agree that a total ban would make for much better concerts.
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: 73October on July 13, 2017, 11:51:00 AM
Although at times I used someone's phone to guide me to where a band member was on the B-stage.  Used their viewfinder, saw Bono/Edge/Adam and very soon was able to watch them directly (am quite short, but was still able to see the band for quite a lot of the time).
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: monopoly on July 13, 2017, 12:27:42 PM
Can you imagine the negative backlash it would get. Then people would say u2 contradicts themselves by going against technology.

I'm all for it though. Get that stupid screen out of my face.
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: ShankAsu on July 13, 2017, 01:06:49 PM
We know Bono went from hating phones/cameras at concerts to asking the crowd to all turn there lights on on their phones to replicate stars.  The cat is out of the bag on this one.
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: Gavin82 on July 13, 2017, 01:21:54 PM
I saw GnR last week i was FOS & it was a nitemare with phones literally people streaming the whole show while i was seated for U2 @ Twickenham last Sat it was fine in my Block L6 few taking pics thats fine we all do it
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: eddyjedi on July 14, 2017, 02:31:42 AM
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to ban phones from gigs?

I don't mind taking pics etc. That's fine.

But, sweet Jesus....Why are you paying 100 quid or so to go to a gig and then film it and watch it through your phone?
It kills the atmosphere completely and looks stupid

Couldn't agree more. When Streets came on I told everyone to put their phones away!

A woman filmed the whole gig from her sh**ty 5 megapixel camera with awful zoom it was ridiculous.

A few photos I can understand but filming a show is pointless you might as well not be there!

Ban phones!


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Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: shesarainbow on July 14, 2017, 04:42:07 AM
I agree. I have never understood why anyone would want to film large portions of the show. It's an incredible experience to be there, just enjoy the moment. It definitely affects the atmosphere too ... although not that noticeably in front of the main stage on Saturday, to be fair.

From a purely selfish and hypocritical stance though, I do love a good Periscope from a gig I'm not actually at!  ;)
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: shineinthesummernight on July 14, 2017, 04:45:54 AM
Periscope has been a wonderful resource, though.  To be fair, I think some people really enjoy being all chill and detached at a show, and their phone helps them to do that.  Not my cup of tea, but to each their own.  I think U2 are too radically pro-liberty to be that authoritarian. 
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: an tha on July 14, 2017, 04:53:22 AM
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to ban phones from gigs?

I don't mind taking pics etc. That's fine.

But, sweet Jesus....Why are you paying 100 quid or so to go to a gig and then film it and watch it through your phone?
It kills the atmosphere completely and looks stupid

Couldn't agree more. When Streets came on I told everyone to put their phones away!


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Unfortunately the sound was so bad by us that people clearly couldn't here you...
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: the_chief on July 14, 2017, 06:41:43 AM
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to ban phones from gigs?

I don't mind taking pics etc. That's fine.

But, sweet Jesus....Why are you paying 100 quid or so to go to a gig and then film it and watch it through your phone?
It kills the atmosphere completely and looks stupid

Couldn't agree more. When Streets came on I told everyone to put their phones away!


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Unfortunately the sound was so bad by us that people clearly couldn't here you...

Interestingly enough, (not that I don't believe you, I do) a few comments I read elsewhere said the sound was spot on.
I know Twickenham has been dreadful for sound in the past (Vertigo 2005 anyone?) but, if that's the case, it must rival Croke Park as a s***hole for sound
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: an tha on July 14, 2017, 06:49:20 AM
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to ban phones from gigs?

I don't mind taking pics etc. That's fine.

But, sweet Jesus....Why are you paying 100 quid or so to go to a gig and then film it and watch it through your phone?
It kills the atmosphere completely and looks stupid

Couldn't agree more. When Streets came on I told everyone to put their phones away!


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Unfortunately the sound was so bad by us that people clearly couldn't here you...

Interestingly enough, (not that I don't believe you, I do) a few comments I read elsewhere said the sound was spot on.
I know Twickenham has been dreadful for sound in the past (Vertigo 2005 anyone?) but, if that's the case, it must rival Croke Park as a s***hole for sound

I assume you have also read the comments (including on this forum) that say the sound was sh**e?..

Stadiums - varying sound, varying experiences...something i mentioned in my show review and a big reason why i have been very unsure about going to any more.....although your lad Mr Gallagher sounded boss to be fair.

As for Croker - i went to the opening night of 360 and the sound was at times dreadful....i am sure the open hill 16 is a big reason.
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: kitanet on July 14, 2017, 09:26:12 AM
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to ban phones from gigs?

I don't mind taking pics etc. That's fine.

But, sweet Jesus....Why are you paying 100 quid or so to go to a gig and then film it and watch it through your phone?
It kills the atmosphere completely and looks stupid

They should adopt the Cuts solution
http://mjf.cuts.live/



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Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: xy on July 14, 2017, 10:05:53 AM
Eh, the technology's there...what's the point in railing against it ? We've all taken pics at gigs at one point or another. No one's banned it from the shows I've seen except Prince - then again he also spent time suing his own fans. To me it's a souvenir from the show just as much as a T-shirt or a ticket stub.

Full song filming is another matter and is annoying. Personally, I never do that, maybe a 20 sec or so "mini movie", yes, but not a full song. I resent the ones that shove others around in their excitement. Got my foot stepped on and elbowed recently at Guns n Roses, despite there being a empty seat between me and the perpetrator ! Sing, jump around etc but please consider others.

Title: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: ZEROpartII on July 14, 2017, 11:03:24 AM
It sucks, but there is no putting the Genie back in the bottle


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Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: Silver Lining on July 14, 2017, 02:24:24 PM
If there was a way to effectively ban using phones to film etc I would be all for it. Thankfully at Twickenham on Sunday I was lucky enough to not be surrounded by obsessive filmers, which made for a much better atmosphere. These days that is so unusual though - especially down near the front.

There's nothing wrong with taking a few snaps - I do that myself - but spending the entire night watching it on a screen? I don't get it!

I saw Mark Knopfler a few years ago who had a "no phones" policy, that he enforced by glaring and pointing at anyone who dared get one out. They soon put them away again, though it did create a slightly weird / grumpy atmosphere.

It seems some bands attract more filmers than others. The Levellers last year had nobody trying to film at all, and it had a proper old school gig atmosphere as a result - I'd almost forgotten how good that is. Not that they tried banning them, just everyone there was enjoying the moment.
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: riffraff on July 14, 2017, 02:31:17 PM
This thread makes me think that I'm the only person in the world that doesn't have a phone that can take pictures.  :(
Well, at least you don't have to worry about me waving my phone in your faces!
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: the_chief on July 14, 2017, 08:37:05 PM
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Eh, the technology's there...what's the point in railing against it ? We've all taken pics at gigs at one point or another. No one's banned it from the shows I've seen except Prince - then again he also spent time suing his own fans. To me it's a souvenir from the show just as much as a T-shirt or a ticket stub.

Full song filming is another matter and is annoying. Personally, I never do that, maybe a 20 sec or so "mini movie", yes, but not a full song. I resent the ones that shove others around in their excitement. Got my foot stepped on and elbowed recently at Guns n Roses, despite there being a empty seat between me and the perpetrator ! Sing, jump around etc but please consider others.



Riiiiiight

Gonna assume you didn't attend this gig then....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djr-kva_JB8
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: the_chief on July 14, 2017, 08:39:16 PM
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to ban phones from gigs?

I don't mind taking pics etc. That's fine.

But, sweet Jesus....Why are you paying 100 quid or so to go to a gig and then film it and watch it through your phone?
It kills the atmosphere completely and looks stupid

Couldn't agree more. When Streets came on I told everyone to put their phones away!


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Unfortunately the sound was so bad by us that people clearly couldn't here you...

Interestingly enough, (not that I don't believe you, I do) a few comments I read elsewhere said the sound was spot on.
I know Twickenham has been dreadful for sound in the past (Vertigo 2005 anyone?) but, if that's the case, it must rival Croke Park as a s***hole for sound

I assume you have also read the comments (including on this forum) that say the sound was sh**e?..

Stadiums - varying sound, varying experiences...something i mentioned in my show review and a big reason why i have been very unsure about going to any more.....although your lad Mr Gallagher sounded boss to be fair.

As for Croker - i went to the opening night of 360 and the sound was at times dreadful....i am sure the open hill 16 is a big reason.

I have and believe you completely.
I just find it fascinating so many different reports over the last 10 or 20 years. Not just U2 btw

Nah think it's something else
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: xy on July 15, 2017, 09:22:47 AM
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Eh, the technology's there...what's the point in railing against it ? We've all taken pics at gigs at one point or another. No one's banned it from the shows I've seen except Prince - then again he also spent time suing his own fans. To me it's a souvenir from the show just as much as a T-shirt or a ticket stub.

Full song filming is another matter and is annoying. Personally, I never do that, maybe a 20 sec or so "mini movie", yes, but not a full song. I resent the ones that shove others around in their excitement. Got my foot stepped on and elbowed recently at Guns n Roses, despite there being a empty seat between me and the perpetrator ! Sing, jump around etc but please consider others.



Riiiiiight

Gonna assume you didn't attend this gig then....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djr-kva_JB8

1987 gig is relevant to phones at gigs how exactly ?

And I still stand by what I said, excessive jumping around that results into shoving/pushing others is lame.
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: an tha on July 15, 2017, 09:25:03 AM
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Eh, the technology's there...what's the point in railing against it ? We've all taken pics at gigs at one point or another. No one's banned it from the shows I've seen except Prince - then again he also spent time suing his own fans. To me it's a souvenir from the show just as much as a T-shirt or a ticket stub.

Full song filming is another matter and is annoying. Personally, I never do that, maybe a 20 sec or so "mini movie", yes, but not a full song. I resent the ones that shove others around in their excitement. Got my foot stepped on and elbowed recently at Guns n Roses, despite there being a empty seat between me and the perpetrator ! Sing, jump around etc but please consider others.



Riiiiiight

Gonna assume you didn't attend this gig then....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djr-kva_JB8

1987 gig is relevant to phones at gigs how exactly ?

And I still stand by what I said, excessive jumping around that results into shoving/pushing others is lame.

You not a fan of moshpits then i take it!
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: the_chief on July 15, 2017, 07:51:07 PM
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Eh, the technology's there...what's the point in railing against it ? We've all taken pics at gigs at one point or another. No one's banned it from the shows I've seen except Prince - then again he also spent time suing his own fans. To me it's a souvenir from the show just as much as a T-shirt or a ticket stub.

Full song filming is another matter and is annoying. Personally, I never do that, maybe a 20 sec or so "mini movie", yes, but not a full song. I resent the ones that shove others around in their excitement. Got my foot stepped on and elbowed recently at Guns n Roses, despite there being a empty seat between me and the perpetrator ! Sing, jump around etc but please consider others.



Riiiiiight

Gonna assume you didn't attend this gig then....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djr-kva_JB8

1987 gig is relevant to phones at gigs how exactly ?

And I still stand by what I said, excessive jumping around that results into shoving/pushing others is lame.

Yep....We all must stand together and politely clap....

No offence but, jog on! :D
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: xy on July 16, 2017, 12:52:06 AM
Yes, because that's totally what I was saying.

Move along now...
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: Gavin82 on July 16, 2017, 03:17:11 AM
What are people saying NOT too jump around in the pit..?? LOLS LOLS LOLS take the seats then i was @ DC last year in the pit & these 3 fat cockney telly tubbys tried too stop people jumping around & didn't want anyone stood nx too them etc

They got FCUKED OFF BIG TIME BY ME & OTHERS

Can you imagine signs every where please NO jumping around in the pit please
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: barbiemom4 on July 16, 2017, 10:08:30 PM
 I totally agree there is excessive phone use.I take a couple shots ,maybe 5 second clip of song but feel guilty even doing that.I love being in the awesome moment at the concert and i do think the band does notice when you are actually watching them verus throgh a phone.I attended a bob dylan concert last year and signs clearly said no photographs,even though the people next to me were doing it and calling out his name and being very obvious about it.Security didnt stop them,i was tempted to take a pic or two,it being my first time seeing Bob dylan.If you are gonna watch the whole show through phone,should just watch it at home,unless of course you are a pro being paid by the band or press.It does take away from the togetherness feeling plus having your phone in someone elses sightline is not cool.
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: tigerfan41 on July 17, 2017, 01:28:09 AM
I've been to dozens of concerts in the pit, ranging from U2 to hard rock bands.

1) jumping around is fine
2) singing your heart out is fine
3) taking the occasional photo or short video clip is fine
4) shoving/pushing others is NOT fine
5) getting too excited and accidentally bumping into someone is fine...just don't make a habit of it

Maybe it's different in other countries at concerts, but here in America there's nothing more annoying than being constantly shoved/pushed into. It's crowded, sure, but there's no excuse for not being in control of your own body and respecting others space. I just had it happen to me at my last U2 concert because a drunk fan was trying to get closer to the stage. She chose to constantly push into me/bump me for a solid 20 minutes, leading all the way up to 5 minutes into the show. It certainly upset me and nearly ruined what was ultimately a good experience. She then proceeded to do the same to a couple other fans after I had moved away from her.

Point is, your enjoyment of the concert shouldn't ruin others' enjoyment of it. Be respectful of the fact that other fans paid just as much (if not more) as you to be there. It's not all about you.

That especially goes for things like filming/taking pictures. I work in the IT field and am naturally gadget obsessed. Back when I first started going to concerts, I was one of those annoying "video record most songs and take hundreds of pictures" people. I quickly found that it kept me from fully being in the moment and then I also considered the fact that it may be annoying to those around me.

So I changed my ways. I now pull my camera out to take 10 seconds of quick pictures every couple of songs. Then it gets put away so that I can focus on the show itself. I don't film more than 10-20 seconds of a song, if that. I never use flash (out of respect of the artists themselves as well as the fans) and I try to make sure I'm not blocking anyone's view. The end result is I get dozens of great photos to remember the night by, all while being in the moment 99% of the show. It's awesome.

I'm totally against the idea of completely banning phones/cameras, as annoying as constant filmers are. It's too authoritarian and for how much we pay to attend concerts, we should have the right to take some photos to remember the experience by. Perhaps a better solution would be to have more security politely warning people to not constantly film/take photos and to film the concert and make it available to fans for purchase afterwards? A band like U2 could easily do this, and even smaller bands could use a relatively inexpensive HD camcorder to record the thing. If people know they'll be able to get a way better quality version of the show afterwards, they have less incentive to film it themselves.
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: julez728 on July 17, 2017, 11:04:04 AM
I remember at one show during the Vertigo tour, I had a guy in front of me in GA that was not only very tall, but insisted on taking pictures with his camera for a lot of the show.  Don't be this person.

I usually take some pictures during a show and I tend to take more the closer I am (GA/RZ).  I usually have my phone easily accessible to be able to take a quick picture and then put it away.  I've never been able to bring myself to take any videos because for me it takes away from the experience...plus so many people take videos nowadays anyway that I can go find one if I really wanted to.
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: trevgreg on July 17, 2017, 11:39:13 AM
I don’t really know of any bands that record video of all their shows and put it online. There might be some smaller ones out there, but probably none of the bands in the same league as U2. Audio bootlegs, yeah, there’s a few that do that today.

I don’t think the “we’ll take the pictures while you watch the show” approach would really work either.  For one, a lot of bands already allow photographers to take pictures for their newspapers or websites as it is. So it’s usually not something people aren’t able to find online nowadays anyway if they really wanted them. On top of that, even if these were offered in higher numbers or were something of high quality, that’s sort of overlooking the point of why people take pictures in the first place. It’s to show others the pictures that they took and from where they were standing. Not many people are going to post a picture taken by Joe Smith from the show if it wasn’t where they were standing or whatever other reason they’d want to be showing it off.

I take pictures and record a song or two myself a lot of the time, but I try to find a healthy balance between doing it and enjoying the show. Even then, I noticed that it doesn’t really factor too much for me personally in being “in the moment” or not, mostly when I’ve compared the differences to shows I’ve been to where no cameras were allowed. As for others doing that, as long as they’re not blocking views or interfering with other people at the show, it doesn’t really bother me. I have seen some people literally film the whole thing though, or have their point and shoot ready to take over when their cell phone’s they’re holding in the other hand is about to run out, and those are maybe the only times where I’ll raise an eyebrow!
Title: Re: Can U2 please be the first band....
Post by: tigerfan41 on July 17, 2017, 05:04:20 PM
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I don’t really know of any bands that record video of all their shows and put it online. There might be some smaller ones out there, but probably none of the bands in the same league as U2. Audio bootlegs, yeah, there’s a few that do that today.

Yeah, there are some bands (I want to say Pearl Jam does it, but I know for sure the Red Hot Chili Peppers do) who release audio bootlegs of every show. Fans who attended the show can purchase a copy, usually for something like $10. It's a pretty fair price.

As for video recordings, I can't name any artists who currently do that for every show, but it would not be that hard to implement. It could also be very, very lucrative financially and could somewhat curb the video recording problem among fans.