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Title: Europe ?
Post by: habib2343 on December 24, 2017, 03:34:46 PM
Ok, so the band announced the e&i tour dates last month,,,but chose to postpone the announcement of the European dates. This is a bit odd as I recall they normally announce dates for NA and Europe before the ROW gets dates in bits and pieces. are they concerned with SOE sales  figures in Europe and will only announce dates in countries where a decent amount of albums have been bought ? The NA market is their gold dust to them, so they will always get gigs, but here in the UK, SOE received a muted response, only entering the charts at no.5. I think the public still have in their mind the fiasco of SOI downloading on to people's ipads, or it could just be U2 are not just the draw they were when it comes to album sales. I think London will get some dates, though am not sure about the rest of the country,,,

Of course come the new year and they announce loadsa shows, then the above is completely wrong..but I think they're waiting to see the impact of SOE in Europe before committing to gigs....
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: EdgeUK8_my_mind on December 25, 2017, 12:04:51 PM
Of course the tickets come with the album. Perhaps some fans have waited because they were going to get tickets anyways. Perhaps the band will use the ticket sales in Jan (?) to boost album sales?


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Post by: Gavin82 on December 26, 2017, 10:54:14 AM
12 countrys is what i believe them too be playing in as when i pre ordered the CD it gave me choice of 12 EU countrys too pick from & the pre sale code could only be used for 1 of them which is very similar too 2015 which was 13 countrys if im correct
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Post by: singnomore on December 26, 2017, 02:50:21 PM
Definitely Europe - a break in announcements I’m guessing more based on back to back Tours. Sales in NA are suffering because of it just now
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Post by: miracle_al on December 27, 2017, 10:49:14 AM
Agreed.  We have been spoiled here in America.  The band toured here in 2015, 2017, and will be coming again in the first half of 2018.  Candidly, I was shocked when I saw the North American e & I dates.  I thought for sure that they'd tour in Oceania first before returning to North America, but I understand the efficiencies of touring here.
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Post by: beppetorino on December 28, 2017, 01:00:04 AM
The selling system as well as the price of the shows seemed to have affected the upcoming tour.
It's incredible watching how many tickets are still on sale.
Disgusting how many tickets are - as usual - in the hands of scalpers and how many so called verified (ridicolous) fans (of their own wallets) reselled nose bleedings seat for unbelievable values.
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Post by: habib2343 on January 03, 2018, 12:30:25 PM
when they come back to the UK, they should play Wembley arena, I don't think they've played it in 30+years and is due a visit ,,,whilst they're at it , they can come to my flat and play a gig....
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Post by: ahusa on January 04, 2018, 02:37:46 AM
Does anyone know if  U2 will take a break for a month before they start touring in Europe this year? Just like they did last year in the last part of the tour? Or would they start right on just after the North American leg?

Hope that I can enjoy my summer vacation at the same time as I travel for concerts, but if the concerts is in the autumn that’s most likely not going to happen.

And of course does anyone know when the concerts is about to be announced? It feels like I’ve been waiting a long time...


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Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: 73October on January 04, 2018, 02:41:45 PM
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when they come back to the UK, they should play Wembley arena, I don't think they've played it in 30+years and is due a visit ,,,whilst they're at it , they can come to my flat and play a gig....

I think I heard "O2" slipped into one of the SOE promo radio interviews.  If that's the case then the O2 is better and bigger.  I saw the MTV EMA's on TV from Wembley Arena and now that seems to be the place for upcoming mainstream/slightly cult acts or else what gets booked when O2's booked.  There is no seating at the stage end of Wembley (I think) and so if the E&I is like I&E then the stage setup will need remodelling.
I've also heard Adam hint at Manchester during the radio interviews and Irish print media has speculated on Belfast & Dublin (again as per I&E?).
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: Gavin82 on January 05, 2018, 03:38:37 AM
https://www.buzz.ie/music/u2-267810

I know ive seen / herd people was hoping for Slane on there home turf but this just killed it.....
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: kevincfcu2 on January 05, 2018, 05:51:24 AM
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https://www.buzz.ie/music/u2-267810

I know ive seen / herd people was hoping for Slane on there home turf but this just killed it.....

Kinda glad Slane is off the radar. Not a great venue I find.
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Post by: Dono on January 05, 2018, 09:06:19 AM
It's a great venue when you're there if it's not raining, or hasn't recently rained, and you've a robust bladder. But it's a pain to get to/from and the toilets are always a mess.
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: opening night on January 05, 2018, 11:47:47 AM
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https://www.buzz.ie/music/u2-267810

I know ive seen / herd people was hoping for Slane on there home turf but this just killed it.....


The source of that story is the Irish Daily Mail. Buzz.ie and other media outlets are quoting it.

When it all comes down the whole article is crap. There is NO news in it. The source is weak. Of course they don't play Slane because it's an indoor tour. Of course they need to make stage smaller than in other countries. Same like in 2015. October is unlikely.
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: Gavin82 on January 05, 2018, 03:35:40 PM
Why is Oct unlikely...?? i was thinking the dates be same near enough as 2015
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Post by: Zoostation07 on January 08, 2018, 02:50:39 PM
Adam mentioned Manchester in the Chris Evans interview on BBC Radio 2 at the end of last year. Following the dreadful terrorist attack last year I don't think it's surprising that they'd want to play at the arena there and show their support.

As far as I'm aware there aren't too many arenas in the UK that could handle e&i in terms of the staging and production - it is probably only the O2 and the Manchester Arena that could stage it. The rest of them are relatively small compared to the US and the newest one (Leeds) is a totally different layout (and wouldn't fit the e&i show) as it was designed as a concert venue over a multi-sports venue which the majority of the other arenas in the UK are.

My guess is that as London had 6 x i&e shows plus 2 x JT shows that they will skip the capital and play 2 nights in Manchester only in Britain - I'd imagine Glasgow will get a show. I guess as they are not billing it as '2 shows' as they did i&e then they won't be forced into playing 2 nights per city and will only play multiple shows in cities which sell well which means they could play in smaller cities, not just the key EU capitals as they did on e&i and JT as they needed those to sell out. Playing some cities 'off the beaten track' (for U2 anyway) might be a smart move as places like London and Paris have been saturated somewhat whereas a Manchester hasn't been visited for many years and you'll likely get a strong local following. I suppose the problem for them (U2) is the logistics of the whole thing - it makes an awful lot of sense in monetary terms to play multiple shows in one venue than to visit a couple of cities per country with one show each. I imagine also that the economics only make sense in terms of multiple shows per venue. 

U2 is still a draw in the UK - they sold out 6 nights at the O2 and 2 dates at Twickenham so they are still a big draw. They'll sell out in Manchester I'm sure as it's been a long time since they played northern England (360 Tour at Sheffield).

In terms of why the EU shows haven't been announced, I'm guessing it's because they were trailing the verified fan system for the first leg and they probably knew it was going to be a huge gamble / headache and they needed time to rethink the process with TM and LN.
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: Gavin82 on January 08, 2018, 11:41:29 PM
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Adam mentioned Manchester in the Chris Evans interview on BBC Radio 2 at the end of last year. Following the dreadful terrorist attack last year I don't think it's surprising that they'd want to play at the arena there and show their support.

As far as I'm aware there aren't too many arenas in the UK that could handle e&i in terms of the staging and production - it is probably only the O2 and the Manchester Arena that could stage it. The rest of them are relatively small compared to the US and the newest one (Leeds) is a totally different layout (and wouldn't fit the e&i show) as it was designed as a concert venue over a multi-sports venue which the majority of the other arenas in the UK are.

My guess is that as London had 6 x i&e shows plus 2 x JT shows that they will skip the capital and play 2 nights in Manchester only in Britain - I'd imagine Glasgow will get a show. I guess as they are not billing it as '2 shows' as they did i&e then they won't be forced into playing 2 nights per city and will only play multiple shows in cities which sell well which means they could play in smaller cities, not just the key EU capitals as they did on e&i and JT as they needed those to sell out. Playing some cities 'off the beaten track' (for U2 anyway) might be a smart move as places like London and Paris have been saturated somewhat whereas a Manchester hasn't been visited for many years and you'll likely get a strong local following. I suppose the problem for them (U2) is the logistics of the whole thing - it makes an awful lot of sense in monetary terms to play multiple shows in one venue than to visit a couple of cities per country with one show each. I imagine also that the economics only make sense in terms of multiple shows per venue. 

U2 is still a draw in the UK - they sold out 6 nights at the O2 and 2 dates at Twickenham so they are still a big draw. They'll sell out in Manchester I'm sure as it's been a long time since they played northern England (360 Tour at Sheffield).

In terms of why the EU shows haven't been announced, I'm guessing it's because they were trailing the verified fan system for the first leg and they probably knew it was going to be a huge gamble / headache and they needed time to rethink the process with TM and LN.


The Hydro in Glasgow 13,000 cap was 1 the smallest Arenas for 2015 if anyone wants too go too a new Arena then this is the 1 its a fab venue much better than 02 etc
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: Gavin82 on January 12, 2018, 02:32:50 AM
https://www.rockol.it/news-683664/u2-tour-2018-italia-date-biglietti-milano-forum-assago

Dont know how legit this site is but it says

The voice turns from before Christmas - the U2 are about to announce their return to Italy, following their recent "Songs of experience". But now we are almost there: according to several sources (and as reported by the reliable Italian fan-site U2place) the official announcement is expected to arrive next Tuesday, January 16th.
As for Italy, 4 dates should be announced at the Assago Forum in October.

http://www.optimaitalia.com/blog/2018/01/11/concerti-degli-u2-in-italia-il-giorno-dellannuncio-ufficiale-delle-date-a-milano-e-imminente/956557

Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: miryclay on January 12, 2018, 06:31:25 AM
Parisian rumour:

https://live-booker.com/concerts/u2_paris_2018-09-09
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: Gavin82 on January 12, 2018, 12:56:21 PM
That link dont open for me whats it saying????
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: miryclay on January 12, 2018, 02:12:18 PM
Rumors September 8,9 at Accer Hotels
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: dougie on January 12, 2018, 02:13:03 PM
The site is selling tix to 9/9/18 for Paris. A ticket reseller for $. Anticipatory of tix they will scalp.
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: Gavin82 on January 12, 2018, 03:47:54 PM
Cheers...!!! AccorHotel Arena is a great venue & thr metro is literally built by the side of it worth a visit for anyone whos not been. Looks like the dates are going too run near enough as 2015 did

Lets hope NOT for this verified fan thing what a load of crap that is...!!!!!!
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: singnomore on January 13, 2018, 10:51:22 PM
Saw some chat online that pre-sales for Europe will start this week (U2Songs reporting)
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Post by: beppetorino on January 14, 2018, 07:28:15 AM
It's time.
We're gonna know everything by tuesday.
Let's hope the system won't prove to be scalpers friendly as for Us leg...
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: MadRob360 on January 14, 2018, 02:59:11 PM
So...i take it we'll get the entire run though of things monday/tuesday? My subscription is until 2019 so im safe on that front, just don't want the verified fan bull that the poor US fans have had to put up with, hope it's a bit more simple!
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: Gavin82 on January 15, 2018, 07:15:50 AM
¿Preparados para comprar las entradas para la nueva manga de la gira de U2 en 2018? U2 Innocence + Experience Tour va a volver a España y Europa después del verano según todo los rumores (Septiembre), y parece, según se comenta en Twitter que esta misma semana se va a iniciar la preventa de entradas para los suscriptores de u2.com.

Los primeros movimientos ya se están notando en los perfiles de las cuentas de u2.com. Ya tenemos el grupo de acceso a la preventa (por orden de antigüedad). Esto quiere decir que en Europa no vamos a tener que pasar por el calvario de ser fan verificado de U2.


Are you ready to buy tickets for the new manga of the U2 tour in 2018? U2 Innocence + Experience Tour is going to return to Spain and Europe after the summer according to all the rumors (September), and it seems, as commented on Twitter that this week is going to start the pre-sale of tickets for subscribers of u2.com .

The first movements are already being noticed in the profiles of the accounts of u2.com. We already have the pre-sale access group (in order of seniority). This means that in Europe we will not have to go through the ordeal of being a verified fan of U2.

Remember that as a member of u2.com you will have access to the pre-sale of tickets, but you will also have the opportunity to access this pre-sale if you purchased the new album of the band Songs of Experience on frist.ca ... This pre-sale will be subsequent to the sale of tickets for subscribers of u2.com and will only allow you to access two tickets. They will notify by e-mail of all the data.

What can we expect from this pre-sale of tickets and the sale of tickets for the general public? It will be a bitter struggle if we stick to what has been lived in the United States. The cheapest track tickets will disappear in a short time, and they will only leave us the most expensive .... which are very expensive ...

Dates in Spain? Clear. It seems that at the beginning two days in Madrid in the Wizink Center, with the possibility of subsequently adding another 2 dates .... we will see. We will inform you of all these next days.

Spain saying its tomorrow BUT the BEST part is the last part NO VERIFIED FANS nonsense for us in EUROPE....!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: 73October on January 15, 2018, 12:24:27 PM
Live Nation UK website has a mysterious Test1 up for 16th January at the O2.  It's "New" and you can click on it but it doesn't give much else away...I think the O2 is going to be one of the venues for the European leg.
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: Gavin82 on January 15, 2018, 01:02:15 PM
02 & Hydro in Glasgow same as 2015 my guess Hyrdro is a great grest Arena muct better than 02 its nearly half the size defo worth a visit
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: indiansummer on January 15, 2018, 03:11:38 PM
Unfortunately hydro in Glasgow is unlikely if they tour UK in October as is rumoured. Kevin Bridges has it booked virtually everyday in October.
Shame as 2nd night in Glasgow in 2015 was arguably their greatest performance of the entire tour. Special special night.
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: samko on January 15, 2018, 04:11:42 PM
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Unfortunately hydro in Glasgow is unlikely if they tour UK in October as is rumoured. Kevin Bridges has it booked virtually everyday in October.
Shame as 2nd night in Glasgow in 2015 was arguably their greatest performance of the entire tour. Special special night.

There is actually a gap in Kevin’s schedule if you look closely.
It’s available 8th - 10th October so I would expect 2 shows then.
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Post by: jono2u on January 16, 2018, 06:23:28 AM
Two tours on the spin with no Scottish show - to say im dissapointed is an understatement.
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Post by: Achtung Rory on January 17, 2018, 06:26:22 AM
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Two tours on the spin with no Scottish show - to say im dissapointed is an understatement.

Agreed ,don't post on here much (mostly lurk) but that's a real disappointment/shame.

Get Billy Sloan (Scottish Music Journo and long time friend of the band) on the case - he's got them to add a Glasgow show before !!
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Post by: paganini12345 on January 17, 2018, 06:44:58 AM
I'm also a but disappointed but can understand they can't play everywhere.
I'm also annoyed that I can't get 4 tickets. I wanted to take my wife and kids but might not be able to now.
I will need to try and get 2 GA tickets with my membership and then another 2 GA with the voucher code for buying the album.

Tam
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: andysloth on January 21, 2018, 03:34:15 AM
Has anyone received the code for buying the album, or is it expected tomorrow morning?
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: markt on January 21, 2018, 03:59:01 AM
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I'm also a but disappointed but can understand they can't play everywhere.
I'm also annoyed that I can't get 4 tickets. I wanted to take my wife and kids but might not be able to now.
I will need to try and get 2 GA tickets with my membership and then another 2 GA with the voucher code for buying the album.

Tam

Which venue and how old are your kids?  The reason I ask is the for the O2 kids have to be 16 years old to go in GA, for Manchester it is 14 years old.  I know that during I&E many people took children under 16 into GA at the O2 as security were way too busy to check any form of ID. 

My 12 year old daughter looks 16 but I have decided not to take the risk.  My wife is not keen on GA either.  For I&E I was extremely lucky to get 2 x seats in the experience presale and then another single 5 seats away in the public sale.  Some very kind fans then swapped seats at the venue so we could sit together.  This time around I haven’t even bothered to try my luck again as they have only released tickets for a Tues night when my daughter is at school (3.5hr drive to the O2).

Will see what other dates are announced and might just end up going with a friend and leaving my wife and daughter at home.  The 2 ticket limit is unfair, especially for seats.  At least with GA you can get 4 tickets via 2 separate orders and still be next to each inside the venue.  I think U2 should remember that many of their long term fans have families now...

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Post by: markt on January 21, 2018, 04:01:22 AM
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Has anyone received the code for buying the album, or is it expected tomorrow morning?

Yes received mine a few days ago via email.
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: markt on January 21, 2018, 04:03:16 AM
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Two tours on the spin with no Scottish show - to say im dissapointed is an understatement.

Agreed ,don't post on here much (mostly lurk) but that's a real disappointment/shame.

Get Billy Sloan (Scottish Music Journo and long time friend of the band) on the case - he's got them to add a Glasgow show before !!

Read on twitter this morning that Billy Sloan made a comment during his show that he believed Scottish dates were being worked on...  no idea if that is true or not.
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Post by: andysloth on January 21, 2018, 04:06:52 AM
Hi markt, did you order from u2.com? if so, which email address did the code come from, so I can trawl through my email just in case, thanks in advance.
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Post by: Gavin82 on January 21, 2018, 04:10:28 AM
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Hi markt, did you order from u2.com? if so, which email address did the code come from, so I can trawl through my email just in case, thanks in advance.

It comes thru as Universal Music
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Post by: andysloth on January 21, 2018, 04:11:59 AM
Cheers
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Post by: andysloth on January 21, 2018, 04:14:15 AM
markT, thanks again, found it buried away!!! all the best
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Post by: kseguin on January 21, 2018, 01:00:19 PM
Looks like Dubiln might be in the middle instead of at the end.

https://www.thesun.ie/news/2076295/u2-set-to-rock-dublins-3arena-on-monday-september-24-and-tuesday-25-2018-according-to-dates-leaked-on-french-fan-site/

I wish they would just announce all of them.  It helps plan if you are making a vacation of it.
Title: Re: Europe ?
Post by: 73October on January 21, 2018, 02:08:03 PM

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Which venue and how old are your kids?  The reason I ask is the for the O2 kids have to be 16 years old to go in GA, for Manchester it is 14 years old.  I know that during I&E many people took children under 16 into GA at the O2 as security were way too busy to check any form of ID. 

My 12 year old daughter looks 16 but I have decided not to take the risk.  My wife is not keen on GA either. 
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At Twickenham, I saw one guy hurry what I believe was his son out of the front 15 rows of GA. The lad's face said it all.  I hope they stood further back with more space and that it wasn't too much of an ordeal.  The lad looked around 15 or 16 but hard to tell.  It can be quite frightening for them - at Twickenham the first 15 rows were pretty packed, enough to feel panicky and claustrophobic.  It wasn't a crush though (I've been in one of those when I was 19), but enough.  It's hard to put the correct age limit on, depending on the venue and the type of crowd.  Maybe Manchester isn't so 'pushy'?
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Post by: paganini12345 on January 22, 2018, 03:02:00 AM
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Which venue and how old are your kids?  The reason I ask is the for the O2 kids have to be 16 years old to go in GA, for Manchester it is 14 years old.  I know that during I&E many people took children under 16 into GA at the O2 as security were way too busy to check any form of ID. 

My 12 year old daughter looks 16 but I have decided not to take the risk.  My wife is not keen on GA either. 
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At Twickenham, I saw one guy hurry what I believe was his son out of the front 15 rows of GA. The lad's face said it all.  I hope they stood further back with more space and that it wasn't too much of an ordeal.  The lad looked around 15 or 16 but hard to tell.  It can be quite frightening for them - at Twickenham the first 15 rows were pretty packed, enough to feel panicky and claustrophobic.  It wasn't a crush though (I've been in one of those when I was 19), but enough.  It's hard to put the correct age limit on, depending on the venue and the type of crowd.  Maybe Manchester isn't so 'pushy'?
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This was for Manchester and my kids will be 15 in July.
I would be staying near the back of the crowd where there is more space but it does not matter now since there were no GA tickets available this morning using my album code.
So might have 2 GA tickets to sell for Manc!