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Tours / Re: Europe dates confirmed
« Last post by Gavin82 on Today at 03:25:41 AM »
Manchester coming up block 101 near behind stage £111...!!!!

London Block 405 upper tier £208 EACH..!!! WOW just WOW
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Tours / Re: Europe ?
« Last post by paganini12345 on Today at 03:02:00 AM »
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Which venue and how old are your kids?  The reason I ask is the for the O2 kids have to be 16 years old to go in GA, for Manchester it is 14 years old.  I know that during I&E many people took children under 16 into GA at the O2 as security were way too busy to check any form of ID. 

My 12 year old daughter looks 16 but I have decided not to take the risk.  My wife is not keen on GA either. 
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At Twickenham, I saw one guy hurry what I believe was his son out of the front 15 rows of GA. The lad's face said it all.  I hope they stood further back with more space and that it wasn't too much of an ordeal.  The lad looked around 15 or 16 but hard to tell.  It can be quite frightening for them - at Twickenham the first 15 rows were pretty packed, enough to feel panicky and claustrophobic.  It wasn't a crush though (I've been in one of those when I was 19), but enough.  It's hard to put the correct age limit on, depending on the venue and the type of crowd.  Maybe Manchester isn't so 'pushy'?
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This was for Manchester and my kids will be 15 in July.
I would be staying near the back of the crowd where there is more space but it does not matter now since there were no GA tickets available this morning using my album code.
So might have 2 GA tickets to sell for Manc!
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Tours / Re: Europe dates confirmed
« Last post by kevincfcu2 on Today at 02:44:13 AM »
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Only shows no tixs what so ever was Manchester & London only the £200 tixs came up BUT there is plenty left not sure on MEN getting another show London will most defo will tho

Out of interest checked London and was getting a few £80 tickets behind the stage up to 5 mins ago.

That said I would say there will not be many tickets left for general sale.
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Tours / Re: Europe dates confirmed
« Last post by Gavin82 on Today at 02:40:46 AM »
Only shows no tixs what so ever was Manchester & London only the £200 tixs came up BUT there is plenty left not sure on MEN getting another show London will most defo will tho
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Tours / Re: Europe dates confirmed
« Last post by kevincfcu2 on Today at 02:33:55 AM »
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That was easy..!!!! Keep trying everyone

Seemed to be a lot of availability, except for Amsterdam.

Hopefully they add a second date, and the pre-sale code will be still valid.
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General U2 Discussion / Re: Rank U2's albums
« Last post by unknown_caller on Today at 02:33:34 AM »

1. The Joshua Tree
2. Achtung Baby
3. Rattle & Hum
4. No Line on the Horizon
5. Zooropa
6. The Unforgettable Fire
7. Boy
8. Pop
9. October
10. Songs of Experience
11. Songs of Innocence
12. All That You Can't Leave Behind
13. War
14. How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb
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Tours / Re: Europe dates confirmed
« Last post by Gavin82 on Today at 01:21:05 AM »
That was easy..!!!! Keep trying everyone
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Tours / Re: Europe dates confirmed
« Last post by ahusa on Today at 01:02:01 AM »
Is there any possibility that people got to order more than two tickets in the presale using the code for different concerts?
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News and Rumors / Re: New Video for GOOYOW
« Last post by HolyHandGrenade on Today at 12:26:23 AM »
I don't know if you guys are familiar with liberation theology, but this whole debate about overt partisanship and rejecting the notion of conciliatory "unity" has deep roots in Christianity itself. If you'll indulge me, the following is taken from a couple essays I wrote on it for a theology class:

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The most prominent of [Albert Nolan's] claims are that God does not want good to be reconciled and diluted by evil, that neutrality is not always possible or desirable, and that conflicts are not always treatable or viewable on a personal level in terms of scale and nature. All these statements attempt to dispel the status quo of the commonly practiced Christian modus operandi for conflict of minimization and avoidance at all costs, in the name of “peace.”

   Principal among these claims from a theological and conceptual standpoint (the latter two being centered more around application) is Nolan’s clarification that while the secular, mortal world may be entirely characterized by shades of gray, the domain of God and his will for his people is absolute, and black and white. Goodness is fully good, and evil is fully evil, and we should expect nothing but that juxtaposition, naturally.  As Nolan puts it, “In some conflicts one side is right and the other wrong, one side is being unjust and oppressive and the other is suffering injustice and oppression. In such cases a policy of seeking consensus and not taking sides would be quite wrong. Christians are not supposed to try to reconcile good and evil, justice and injustice; we are supposed to do away with evil, injustice and sin,” (Nolan 5).
 
The challenge presented here for Christians is that, rather that approximating some middle ground, it is prudent or even necessary to partake in discernment of what elements of the conflict are truly good or truly indefensible. While both sides may have rationally valid positions, the type of thing summed up by a lowercase “good,” the presence of a capital “Good” tenet on one side or another can trump [haha] any logic or restraint.

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The second, and perhaps more weighty, aspect of neutrality being undesirable is that inaction implicitly perpetuates the status quo. As expressed by Nolan, “If we do not take sides with the oppressed, then we are, albeit unintentionally, taking sides with the oppressor,” (Nolan 5). He goes on to emphasize that in this taking of sides per se, it is the oppressed and poor who Christians must flock to. Recalling the concept that a “Good” supersedes the value of subjective “goods,” Jesus’ ministry shows us that fighting for the oppressed and against the evil of a malicious throne or system is a duty...

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Being from South Africa, where racial oppression, and societal and economic division are a blatantly visible aspect of life, it is no surprise that he is a vocal proponent of liberation and seeking conflict (and no surprise that South Africa would adopt Liberation Theology). Nolan outlines some sticking points that prevent Christians from understanding the necessity of conflict, including that it is wrong to assume that there is “always blame on both sides” and that “a person can be neutral in all cases of conflict” (Nolan 5). Furthermore, he states that it is a dangerous misconception to treat the “peace” of a status quo and a reconciliation of two sides and such. Rather, it is the complicity of a side one must oppose diametrically, however marginal the concessions are. He backs this up by referring to the ascending salvation of Jesus’ ministry: “Do you suppose that I am here to bring peace on Earth? No, I tell you, but rather dissension. For from now on a household will be divided” (Luke 12:51-53; Matthew 10:34-36).

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Christians often side with abortion rights at the expense of the multitude of anti-Christian and anti-humanitarian (which has its own place - You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login) implications Trump, and Republican policies in general carry. And nonetheless, supporting life is fine, but using it to reconcile and support other unacceptable policies is misguided. 
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Tours / Re: Europe dates confirmed
« Last post by Gavin82 on Today at 12:22:01 AM »
Good luck everyone today if your in the Album sales BUT there is always main sales & DROPS later in the year fingers crossed..!!!!
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