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General U2 Discussion / Re: The Joshua Tree is over-rated
« Last post by ShankAsu on July 17, 2018, 11:06:40 AM »
I think someone's age is a factor on looking at a band's full career.  For me, i became a fan after AB and Zooropa were already released so i wasn't able to experience them when they were first released and never realized just how truly innovative they were in the moment.
Joshua Tree was a huge step forward for the band and songs like WTSHNN and WOWOY truly are groundbreaking.  For someone looking back after hearing them a thousand times, they might just be two more songs by U2-  but those are masterpieces that the band went to a higher level to write.
The Music and Lyrics / Re: Rattle and Hum: Retrospective
« Last post by ShankAsu on July 17, 2018, 11:02:54 AM »
AIWIY, LRM and Heartland
Love this album and the film (and also the doc that came with the JT deluxe edition which i think is a companion piece to it).  Probably my 4th of 5th favorite album by them.
General U2 Discussion / Re: Songs Of Experience sales in the United States
« Last post by wons on July 17, 2018, 10:48:16 AM »
No soundscan data this week, but Songs Of Experience has completely dropped off the smaller rock album sales chart an alternative albums sales chart. Since the #50 and #25 positions on those charts are never in the top 200 selling albums of soundscan chart, its pretty clear that the album is now gone. A very FAST exit considering that the album was at #62 just 3 weeks ago. Songs Of Experience did about 319,000 copies in sales which combines physical and digital copies sold.

Without a new single rising up the charts, a return to tour the United States in 2019, some grammy nominations or grammy wins, it is unlikely that the Songs Of Experience album will resurface on the charts. There is the chance that there may be some more album/ticket bundled sales that have not been released yet that could temporarily push it back in the charts, but at this point I doubt it.

I'll keep checking each week, but will only update the thread if Songs Of Experience reappears on the charts at some point. Its about 7 and a half months since the album was released December 1, 2017.

Each week of sales so far, with chart position and sales.

01. (#1) 179,772
02. (#6) 32,307
03. (#19) 21,234
04. (#19) 14,028
05. (#23) 5,717
06. (#23) 4,310
07. (#39) 3,549
08. (#57) 2,894
09. (#51) 3,584
10. (#52) 2,774
11. (#84) 2,119
12. (#114) 1,730
13. (#55) 3,257
14. (#130) 1,657
15. (#35) 4,976
16. (#63) 2,705
17. (#115) 1,882
18. (#170) 1,529
19. (#124) 1,754
20. (#---) 1,218
21. (#151) 2,044
22. (#85) 2,137
23. (#67) 2,824
24. (#65) 2,564
25. (#68) 2,634
26. (#---) 1,734
27. (#112) 1,851
28. (#54) 3,000 (Estimated)
29. (#71) 2,400 (Estimated)
30. (#62) 2,600 (Estimated)
31. (out of top 100 ?) 1,500 (Estimated)
32. (off all album charts)

Total sales after 32 weeks in the United States is 319,000 copies. This includes BOTH physical and digital copies.
The Music and Lyrics / Re: The unforgettable fire album cover photo
« Last post by miryclay on July 17, 2018, 10:28:35 AM »
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New Member Introductions / Re: We, the fans, sing to U2
« Last post by laoghaire on July 17, 2018, 09:06:57 AM »
Sadly, I won't be there, but I like your idea!

I'm trying to think, what message do we fans want to send? Me, just a show of support I think. "We can hear you."
General U2 Discussion / Re: Words I never thought I'd hear
« Last post by Mr. Sarajevo 20 on July 17, 2018, 09:04:10 AM »
Enjoy it...doesn't usually last forever.
New Member Introductions / We, the fans, sing to U2
« Last post by ideas girl on July 17, 2018, 07:57:28 AM »
Here's what I suggest:
At a gig..... take a well-known song eg Queen's 'Fat Bottomed Girls', re-work the lyrics a bit.....
          'Lads you are welcome home tonight
           Back from your latest world tour
           And when you give it all you got
           4 north Dubs you make our rockin' world go round, yeah
           4 north Dubs you make our rockin' world go round'

Why? Cos at a gig I often want to say something a bit more eloquent than 'yeewaaaaay- faaaaaaab-whaaaaay.'  Twould be nice if we did something for them - they're always doing stuff for us.
Practicalities:   If there's a support group, ask them to run us through a rehearsal, then ask de lads on-stage...
If not, arrange with venue to play a backing-track, a few fans get on-stage and we sing.
Let concert-goers know prior to the event, so they're familiar with tune and lyrics......perhaps via a link in the Ticketmaster etc
e-mail: reminder of up-coming gig.

This song's suitable for'd be great if Dublin started this new thing....(I'll be there 6 Nov); fans going to other gigs could sing other songs.
(And don't forget to pay Queen their royalty.)
The Music and Lyrics / Rattle and Hum: Retrospective
« Last post by Vox on July 17, 2018, 07:21:01 AM »
This is the sixth part of the U2: Retrospective.  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login 

After listening to the album now, in the present day, the main part of each post will be to vote for your three favorite songs from each album.  The next parts can be optional (well, the whole thing is “optional”), but I’ll structure my posts like this:
•   When did I first listen to that album?  What is my history with the album?   
•   How do I feel about the album when I listen to it today, versus how I’ve felt about the album in the past?

Top three songs (studio):  “God Part II,” “Desire,” and “Hawkmoon 269”  NOTE:  since this is a double, live/studio record, I’m going to refer to only the studio versions of songs.

Rattle and Hum was the first U2 album I picked up around the time of its release.  In the late ‘80s, my older sister was dating a super-cool guy.  He had the greatest mullet, wore the sweetest clothes, drove a Fiero…  He also listened to some cutting-edge music, and it was he who got me into the band U2.  I distinctly remember the first time I saw Rattle and Hum (the movie) with him.  I was mesmerized.  I must have watched my VHS copy of that movie once or twice every month for a couple of years before Achtung Baby was released.  And I loved this album back then.  But a strange thing happened in the ‘90s and ‘00s – I began to disregard it.  I’m not really sure why.  It’s not my favorite U2 sound…  Maybe I was swayed by public and band opinion of the album…  Since the early ‘90s, I’d list it as my 2nd or 3rd least favorite U2 album. 

But occasionally, in the past couple years, I’ve found myself going back to it.  And when I started to listen to it earlier this month, preparing for this retrospective, I found myself bringing up certain songs again and again.  “God Part II”…  wow…  I always understood how thematically this song is considered a herald to ’90s U2, but I never realized how much the Edge’s guitar squawks and “solo” (for lack of a better word) were such a genetic ancestor to the buzzy and clangy guitar sounds of Achtung Baby.  I loved “Desire” when it was released, but I really haven’t sought it out much for a couple decades.  Listening to it now, though – I’m very thankful that U2 went through a period like this.  It’s a solid, dirty little pop song.  I used to disregard “Hawkmoon 269” until a summer or two ago when it came up on the radio out of nowhere.  I was driving down into a valley with thunderclouds overhead and I had “one of those moments” while listening to it.  It’s a damn fine song…

I’ve never really cared for “Angel of Harlem,” or “When Love Comes to Town.”  Never really enjoyed “Love Rescue Me,” though listening to it again recently, Bono’s unrestrained part at the end is something to behold.  I’ve always loved “Van Diemen’s Land” and “Heartland.”  It seems that I should like “All I Want Is You” more than I do… 

Anyway, I feel that I’ve unfairly maligned this album, which is my wife’s favorite U2 album (though she’s not a U2 fan, by any stretch).  And though it’s not my favorite version of U2, in retrospect, I’m glad they went through this period and I have this collection of songs.  I have a feeling it’s going to get a lot more play than usual from me the rest of the summer. 
New Member Introductions / Re: New member from Stockholm
« Last post by laoghaire on July 17, 2018, 06:15:32 AM »
Ok, 1980 is more reasonable, but still, how had you heard of them in 1980?! And from Sweden?
General U2 Discussion / Re: The Joshua Tree is over-rated
« Last post by Clarky on July 17, 2018, 06:05:06 AM »
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While I’m fully aware that opinions can’t be wrong

Of course opinions can be wrong.  Including (in my opinion) the one that started this thread.  An opinion is just a belief, and it is entirely possible to believe something that isn't true. 

If the OP had said, "I don't like the Joshua Tree as much as most people do," then there'd be no problem. 

Yeah this. Thanks for speaking sensibly.
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