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E+I Tour Venue/City Information / Re: 19th October - Manchester
« Last post by laoghaire on October 19, 2018, 10:33:42 AM »
My heart is with you all tonight.
The Music and Lyrics / Re: Best version of 40?
« Last post by laoghaire on October 19, 2018, 10:28:50 AM »
<sob> I can't take the pressure!! <wails>

Nah, I just didn't have time yet to look more. Will do so off and on over the next few days. I will definitely report if I figure it out. I don't even recall where I heard/saw the snippet itself.
General U2 Discussion / Re: How should U2 end it all?
« Last post by laoghaire on October 19, 2018, 10:24:51 AM »
I'm not crying, you're crying!
General U2 Discussion / Re: Are u2 forums dying a death?
« Last post by laoghaire on October 19, 2018, 10:15:47 AM »
It's not dead here but certainly dying.

I'm new here (6 or 7 months) but I've read through a lot of the older threads and see there used to be a lot more activity. I've sometimes felt compelled to add a reply but didn't want to annoy people reviving dead threads. (I think I did it once though).

Brainstorm of reasons:

1) Forums are giving way to other media like FB. If this is true that wouldn't explain everything as it would be obvious where all the action is now.

2) Fans are at an age where they are too busy or whatever. I think this would have happened a long time ago if true.

3) U2 lost fans with the Apple fiasco. Don't think so, I read through old topics and I didn't see that reflected. U2 lost a lot of cred with non fans and became the butt of jokes but fans were mostly just frustrated about the loss of standing not angry about the stunt.

4) U2 lost a lot of fans with the last two/three/four/five/six albums. This may be true but I'm unconvinced it explains everything.

5) This forum is 10 years old and can you really discuss a band for that long? I think this might be a pretty good chunk of it. U2 might be gaining a couple new fans here and there but they had amassed the vast total of their fan base by 2002 or so. There are only so many fans in the world hard core enough to spend time on a forum geeking out on bedazzles and the different interpretations of "love." Once those people spent a year or three or seven they moved on with their lives and there's only a trickle to replace them.

6) Bono passed his expiration date. There used to be a contingent of people here dying over his every eyelash flutter. He suddenly aged in dog years and that contingent is gone, leaving the room much quieter.

7) The world got divided. All of the English speaking world (and more, but this is a forum centered on the English speaking world) has experienced a dramatic shift in the last three or four years. That can be the lifeblood of other forums on other topics but when discussing a band it leads to problems. If this hypothesis is true, it's happening at other fan forums of different topics (other bands, athletes, fiction universes, etc.) as well.

8 ) U2 have been overexposed of late. Hard to say if this could be an explanation - years of no activity don't lend to hopping forums.

9) back to the first idea, that the media has changed. Maybe a shift to another medium happened but the medium couldn't sustain the activity. Back in the late 90s, we were enthralled with email, and people used to write "letters" via email. Over time, and with the advent of texting, the art of the letter has been choked out. Likewise people maybe moved to FB but FB doesn't lend itself to discussion like this. Somebody would post a question or short idea and they'll get oneliner responses and "lol"s. So much for discussion.
General U2 Discussion / Re: How should U2 end it all?
« Last post by Vox on October 19, 2018, 10:10:14 AM »
Here’s how I could see them go, and I’d be okay with that.

2018:  Finish up the current tour in November.  In mid-December,  U2 release a new album they’ve been working on since 2010 titled Songs of Ascent as “a gift for our fans” (it won’t be free, though), to close out the “Songs Trilogy."  It’s full of slow, ambient, contemplative music (hymns for the future), and features a couple songs with lyrical similarities to the last two albums.   The album is not easily translated to a live setting, and they have absolutely no intention of touring behind it.  At one point Bono says something about how not having to perform these songs in a live setting was “liberating.”  In fact, they may only ever play a song or two from it live, a few years down the road.  It’s a cross between Passengers and Unforgettable Fire, filled with hushed chants and lots of keyboard.  There aren’t many radio friendly songs, but it’s fairly critically acclaimed.  Even Pitchfork grudgingly gives it a 7.1.  Somewhere a headline reads:  “U2 Act Their Age And Ascend.”
2019:  Well-deserved holiday and break for the band.
2020-2022: Write and record new album.
2023:  Late in the year, U2 release new album called Man.  It has mixed reviews and yields one surprisingly fairly high-charting song, but stalls quickly.  Upon its release, U2 confirm suspicions and announce Man will be their last proper studio album. 
2024: Six-month tour in support of Man in arenas, much like the current tour.  Prior to that tour, U2 say that they will “retire as a band in their current form” in 2026.  After The Man Tour, They announce that they will play a grand-scale, nearly two-year final farewell tour “for the fans.”  U2 love the rush of filling up and performing in stadiums (see Joshua Tree Tour last year), and they want to go out this way.  It’s likely the only way they could do stadiums anymore, with a farewell/greatest hits type tour.   
2025-2026:  U2 tour the globe as part of their farewell tour, hitting every continent besides Antarctica.  The final show is September 25, 2026, in Dublin, and is a pay per view event (love that idea – thank you, OP).  The final song is a 10-minute version of “40.”   

•   We get multiple greatest hits albums, re-releases, concert videos, songs from the vault, maybe an EP of the Rick Rubin sessions re-mixed by The Edge, etc. 
•   Bono releases two solo albums of low-key, crooner, loungey-type music, one of which features duets with whoever’s popular at the time. 
•   The Edge releases two motion picture soundtracks – mostly electronic music, with very little guitar.  Bono guest-stars on one of the songs from one of the albums, which earns a Grammy nomination for best original song, but loses out to some Disney song. 
•   Adam becomes an expensive session player for people like Bonnie Raitt and Tom Waits. 
•   Larry does a little acting.  Realizes it’s fun, but not his thing.
•   Adam and Larry produce an album together as Clayton/Mullen, in the vein of their Mission Impossible collaboration.  One song from the album features all four members of U2.  That song is pretty good and makes people wax nostalgic about how great U2 was.  The song climbs the charts.  The band performs the song, along with “Pride” at a few one-off events.  They decide to come together for one last album and tour, because, as Bono will say, “we forgot the magic of U2 as a four-piece unit, and being a member of U2 is a life-sentence.”
General U2 Discussion / Re: Are u2 forums dying a death?
« Last post by Smee on October 19, 2018, 10:00:55 AM »
Before this site shut down the forum for a while, this site was enough to fill my u2 needs. Now, i have to go to 4 different sites to meet my needs. I know its not a big hassle or anything, its just sad to see one of my old (and favourite) haunts struggling for content
The Music and Lyrics / Re: Best version of 40?
« Last post by rockatansky on October 19, 2018, 09:27:52 AM »
So what's the deal laoghaire?  Did you give up on the 40 quest?  Truthfully though, I couldn't find anything better than what I posted but that doesn't mean it's not out there.  I haven't given up and will keep looking.
General U2 Discussion / Re: Is the sound of concerts too loud?
« Last post by rockatansky on October 19, 2018, 09:23:19 AM »
It's a rock 'n roll show folks. It's supposed to be loud.  U2 has to crank up the volume to reach a massive audience. U2 360 tour at the Rose Bowl had over 97,000 people in the audience, many of course way in the back of the stadium.  U2's got to reach them.  That's the beauty of a U2 concert.

I've been attending concerts for over 40 years.  If you're too close, then wear earplugs.  But complaining about a loud U2 rock 'n roll show is ridiculous.  I saw U2 in their 1983 War Tour in a venue with just over 300 people.  The sound was loud but perfect for that venue.  U2 has to adjust sound for the venue and that means reaching everyone.  I say let it rip, the bigger the audience, the louder the better.
General U2 Discussion / Re: Are u2 forums dying a death?
« Last post by rockatansky on October 19, 2018, 09:07:47 AM »
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I'm new, as you can obviously see on the side with my profile.  I don't belong to any other forums, so maybe I'm not the best source of information.  But, it seems to me this forum is dead quiet.  I visit it daily (multiple times) and there is hardly any activity.  And I've noticed the activity seems to come from the same small group of people. I may be wrong about that though.  I've no idea on the theories for this that are noted on this thread but it really does seem to be either dying or dead.  Which sucks...
Exactly. Nail on the head there. atu2 forum used to have its quiet spells before it shut down the forum, but nothing as quiet as it permanently is now. Im sad about it. As i say, I love talking about all things u2. This site used to meet all my needs....till one year ago. Now, I struggle to feed my habit lol

Here's something to confirm what you and I are saying.  At the top of the forum page there is a link titled "Members" where you can view the Member List.  There are 272 pages listed with 50 members per page.  According to my trusty little calculator that extrapolates to 13,600 members.  So, where the heck are these 13,600 members.  The activity on this forum represents a tiny fraction of that total.  Numbers don't lie.
General U2 Discussion / Re: Is the sound of concerts too loud?
« Last post by Spaderholic on October 19, 2018, 08:58:47 AM »
I can't talk about U2 gigs as I've never been to any but from other gigs I've attended over the years I've found nearly all of them far too loud! Ever since I permanently damaged my hearing after a Suede gig in the 90's I wear wax earplugs to every gig. It makes the world of difference, believe me and, for me, they're a necessity as I don't want to lose what hearing I have left, lol!
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