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Title: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: Droo on November 30, 2012, 12:56:36 PM
....for the Spider-Man musical.

http://www.atu2.com/news/new-songs-for-spider-man-musical.html

For f*** sake.
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: Jono on November 30, 2012, 01:02:07 PM
mean Droo, mean :)
seriously??? why why why spidey, why???

not even a song of 'One's' quality or even 'Streets' could save that bomb of a show!!!
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: Droo on November 30, 2012, 01:03:56 PM
What bothers me the most about this is they write songs at a snail's pace as it is. This will inevitably hold up new material for an actual U2 release.
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: Tumbling Dice on November 30, 2012, 01:27:55 PM
Bono rearranging a few lyrics on his laptop while chatting to The Edge and Kofi over a coffee could be classed as "working on new songs."

Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: So Cruel on November 30, 2012, 02:58:19 PM
30 years from now when i'm holding my grandson on my lap and telling him stories of my youth and he asks me when exactly did U2 jump the shark, I think the answer may be "Well little Timmy, you know that toy Spiderman that you like to play with? Well, Saint Bono and his friend the Edge decided that they would put aside the greatest rock n roll band ever to work on a Spiderman play. And then they kept on working on it, and working on it, and on and on it went..."
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on November 30, 2012, 03:02:01 PM
I genuinely thought autumn 2013 was realistic for the next u2 album. Given how spiderman messed with their last attempt at a post-noth album, i think spring 2014 is the earliest we'll see anything :(
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: Tumbling Dice on November 30, 2012, 03:06:18 PM
Their plans for the start of the next tour will have the biggest bearing on the release date of their new album.
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: mdmomof7 on November 30, 2012, 03:27:57 PM
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30 years from now when i'm holding my grandson on my lap and telling him stories of my youth and he asks me when exactly did U2 jump the shark, I think the answer may be "Well little Timmy, you know that toy Spiderman that you like to play with? Well, Saint Bono and his friend the Edge decided that they would put aside the greatest rock n roll band ever to work on a Spiderman play. And then they kept on working on it, and working on it, and on and on it went..."

Sob...I think I could agree with this. Boys - PLEASE give me reason not to.  :'(

I'm still aiming for a Bucket List check off and a Summer 2014 trip to Dublin to see them play their new album at Slane!
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: smee on November 30, 2012, 05:01:39 PM
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I genuinely thought autumn 2013 was realistic for the next u2 album. Given how spiderman messed with their last attempt at a post-noth album, i think spring 2014 is the earliest we'll see anything :(

Everything considered, i still think its likely we will see an album from u2 sept -nov 2013
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on November 30, 2012, 05:33:41 PM
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I genuinely thought autumn 2013 was realistic for the next u2 album. Given how spiderman messed with their last attempt at a post-noth album, i think spring 2014 is the earliest we'll see anything :(

Everything considered, i still think its likely we will see an album from u2 sept -nov 2013

Yeah, maybe i'm exaggerating the time they'll spend on the musical. After all, it says they're writing new songs, not completely transforming the entire score. Come to think of it, i remember Bono and Edge writing 2 new tracks for the 'revamped' version of spiderman (i think one of them was 'freak like me'), and the space between them announcing it and the songs actually being premiered was not too long.

It also occurs to me (so i agree with tumbling dice) that tour dates will probably have a greater say in when the next album comes out. I'm of the opinion that the main reason u2 haven't put out an album/worked properly on it yet is that it hasn't been long enough since 360 ended for there to be demand for a tour. And since u2 albums and tours always go together, they likely won't release anything until that demand exists again... and they might have enough material already (at the very least, they should have a massive head start - there's at least 2 years worth of danger mouse material alone).
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: achtungjoshua on November 30, 2012, 07:26:54 PM
This is probably right - the fact they are working on Spider-man again could indicate that the next U2 album is indeed (almost) ready but, as others have said, it is too early to release it at the moment as they don't want to tour yet.

Also, what do others think about the timing of their next tour also being driven by those of other bands next year - for example, IF the Stones announce a tour for 2013 (plus Springsteen / Killers / Muse are already doing stadium tours next year) I really can't see U2 touring as well until the Stones are finished - which again points to U2 touring in 2014, with the album release Oct / Nov next year.
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: So Cruel on November 30, 2012, 07:31:34 PM
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This is probably right - the fact they are working on Spider-man again could indicate that the next U2 album is indeed (almost) ready but, as others have said, it is too early to release it at the moment as they don't want to tour yet.

Also, what do others think about the timing of their next tour also being driven by those of other bands next year - for example, IF the Stones announce a tour for 2013 (plus Springsteen / Killers / Muse are already doing stadium tours next year) I really can't see U2 touring as well until the Stones are finished - which again points to U2 touring in 2014, with the album release Oct / Nov next year.

I gotta disagree with you about the tour. This year Springsteen toured the same time when Paul McCartney did and the same time Roger Waters was selling out stadiums. McCartney played in my city last Sunday, and Springsteen played Monday and still sold out every seat in the building. U2 are big enough that they certainly don't have to worry about Muse or the Killers, and there's still enough room for big acts like the Stones and U2 to tour in the same year.
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: mdmomof7 on November 30, 2012, 11:01:23 PM
And Muse and The Killers aren't touring the US too much, especially Muse.
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: ian ryan on November 30, 2012, 11:22:49 PM
To quote the immortal Bill the Cat: Ack! Ack ack ack! Ack thppppt ack urgh ack thpppptt!!!
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: singnomore on December 01, 2012, 02:10:56 AM
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I genuinely thought autumn 2013 was realistic for the next u2 album. Given how spiderman messed with their last attempt at a post-noth album, i think spring 2014 is the earliest we'll see anything :(

Everything considered, i still think its likely we will see an album from u2 sept -nov 2013

Yip I agree with Smee on this - still opportunity for the back end of next year
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: JTBaby on December 01, 2012, 07:18:42 AM
I still think the whole, "hey let's make a musical out of Spiderman" conversation must have happened while sampling Northern California's best.

Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: The Unknown Caller on December 01, 2012, 07:51:55 AM
I am still of the belief that if there was no Spider-Man musical, we would remain exactly where we are in terms of new U2 material, so this doesn't bother me much.
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: jick on December 01, 2012, 07:55:26 AM
This throws off all the statistical and mathematical analysis I have made for U2's 2014 album release date prediction!   ....assuming the news were true though! Then again, as a veteran and experienced U2 fan, I already have a feel on what is hyperbole (most of it) and what is reality (hardly any) when they talk about "working on new songs" or "possible release dates."

Statistical patterns and trending should take precedence over band declarations.

Cheers,

J
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: The Unknown Caller on December 01, 2012, 07:58:44 AM
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This throws off all the statistical and mathematical analysis I have made for U2's 2014 album release date prediction!   

Truly a tragedy.
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: Pocket Merlin on December 01, 2012, 07:33:08 PM
Maybe this is their way of making their way back to the band's material?

Edge: Come on, Bono, let's work on something.
Bono: No. I'm not starting until I have the best idea ever. You know, capturing the zeitgeist. Maybe I should put on some orange pants to help me think? The yellow ones aren't really doing it.
Edge: No, I mean...we should work on something. OK, how about we noodle around with some Spiderman stuff first to get warmed up?
Bono: Hmm...OK. I actually have got a few more ideas for that. I was thinking we could write a track called "Man Rises From The Ground."
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: dirtdrybonesandstone on December 02, 2012, 10:42:06 AM
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30 years from now when i'm holding my grandson on my lap and telling him stories of my youth and he asks me when exactly did U2 jump the shark, I think the answer may be "Well little Timmy, you know that toy Spiderman that you like to play with? Well, Saint Bono and his friend the Edge decided that they would put aside the greatest rock n roll band ever to work on a Spiderman play. And then they kept on working on it, and working on it, and on and on it went..."

I agree.   Spider-Man did them in.   Probably the worst thing they could have done at a point when their level of creativity was at an all time low.

I was hoping for a new album in 2014 but its doubtful based on this.    Absolutely impossible for 2013.
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: Tumbling Dice on December 02, 2012, 12:55:03 PM
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I am still of the belief that if there was no Spider-Man musical, we would remain exactly where we are in terms of new U2 material, so this doesn't bother me much.

So am I.  U2 is a different brand to Paul & Dave.

Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: Starman on December 02, 2012, 12:59:00 PM
*facepalm*

Does anyone actually care about this show?
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: Tumbling Dice on December 02, 2012, 01:07:22 PM
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*facepalm*

Does anyone actually care about this show?

Bono and The Edge seem to.

Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: jick on December 03, 2012, 03:53:49 AM
The show has been raking it a lot of money.

Rockstars writing a broadway musical is a challenge not many dare tread into.

And to gain the success Bono and The Edge have done show how truly artistically and musically diverse these U2 members are. They really push the envelopes to their craft.

Unlike other artists who think fragmented lyrics and inaccessible tunes with a lot of sound effects suddenly mean it is "art."

Cheers,

J
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: Bads316 on December 03, 2012, 04:07:50 AM
A Broadway Musical is musically diverse and pushing the envelope?
And X-Factor is this generations punk movement.


Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: MarsGirl on December 03, 2012, 07:22:52 AM
I think I'm the only one here who actually enjoyed the Spider-man musical (saw it last summer after the Philly show). I think the music is awesome and the album is on my rotation in my iPod.

That said, I wish they'd just leave the show alone for awhile. And start making music for the band. I think some of the songs they did in Spidey did in-fact push the envelope for B&E in that a lot of the songs are really not your rote U2 songs. I think it let them experiment a little for different sounds. I'd like to see them carry that sort of thing into their own U2 work.
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: Bads316 on December 03, 2012, 08:01:22 AM
It's as if Felix Baumgartner was bored of jumping from the edge of space, so to really push the envelope and challenge himself he decided to jump off the third step of his stairs at home.
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: The Unknown Caller on December 03, 2012, 10:52:14 AM
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I think I'm the only one here who actually enjoyed the Spider-man musical (saw it last summer after the Philly show). I think the music is awesome and the album is on my rotation in my iPod.

Nope, I enjoyed it a lot when I saw it; it surprised me! :)
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: MarsGirl on December 03, 2012, 11:07:15 AM
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I think I'm the only one here who actually enjoyed the Spider-man musical (saw it last summer after the Philly show). I think the music is awesome and the album is on my rotation in my iPod.

Nope, I enjoyed it a lot when I saw it; it surprised me! :)

Well glad I'm not the only one. ;)
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: Dali on December 03, 2012, 02:35:58 PM
What's the point of writing new songs for a musical which is apparently doing quite well at the box office with the songs it already has? The thought to "never change a winning team" should apply to this successful musical as well. I guess they could only make the musical worse by adding additional songs taking up more time, thereby weakening the arc of suspense. I mean it's a musical, not an album of unrelated tunes where you could add a few without changing the whole thing much.
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: Bads316 on December 03, 2012, 02:43:03 PM
My guess is that if the album sold better than expected (anyone know?) they might want to do a quick re-release with some new stuff on it.
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: Tumbling Dice on December 05, 2012, 04:27:48 AM
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A Broadway Musical is musically diverse and pushing the envelope?



There's a lot of money in that racket.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20606881

Bono & The Edge are simply going where the money is.

Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: imaginary friend on December 08, 2012, 05:29:15 PM
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What's the point of writing new songs for a musical which is apparently doing quite well at the box office with the songs it already has? The thought to "never change a winning team" should apply to this successful musical as well. I guess they could only make the musical worse by adding additional songs taking up more time, thereby weakening the arc of suspense. I mean it's a musical, not an album of unrelated tunes where you could add a few without changing the whole thing much.

Last I heard, Spiderman: the Musical was going on an arena tour of Europe. Maybe the show's producers want a few more songs that can rock a big space? That's my guess, anyway.
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: U2Fan on December 09, 2012, 06:43:55 AM
Bottom line...Spidey is easy money for Bono and Edge.  A U2 album is hard work and album sales are weak
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: JTBaby on December 09, 2012, 07:44:18 AM
Yay.......an arena tour for Europe !


;)


Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: So Cruel on December 09, 2012, 10:45:00 AM
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Yay.......an arena tour for Europe !


;)




"honey, where are we vacationing this year?"
"you want to catch Spiderman in Europe?"
"let's just stay home"
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: Tumbling Dice on December 09, 2012, 12:17:43 PM
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Yay.......an arena tour for Europe !

An arena tour until, that is, Paul McGuinness gets the idea that they’re wasting their energies performing the musical for 10,000 folks a night when they could be performing it for 70,000.

Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: Droo on December 09, 2012, 12:21:20 PM
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Yay.......an arena tour for Europe !


;)




"honey, where are we vacationing this year?"
"you want to catch Spiderman in Europe?"
"let's just stay home"

HA!
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: Chip on December 11, 2012, 12:07:26 AM
Judging from band trends since ATYCLB (actually, even POP), always add about six months onto any band insider's declaration of the next album's release date. Spring 2014 already was far more realistic than Fall 2013, and the Spiderman work makes this even more likely now (although I hope I'm wrong).
Title: Re: Bono and The Edge Working On New Songs!
Post by: emalvick on December 18, 2012, 02:31:15 PM
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This is probably right - the fact they are working on Spider-man again could indicate that the next U2 album is indeed (almost) ready but, as others have said, it is too early to release it at the moment as they don't want to tour yet.

Also, what do others think about the timing of their next tour also being driven by those of other bands next year - for example, IF the Stones announce a tour for 2013 (plus Springsteen / Killers / Muse are already doing stadium tours next year) I really can't see U2 touring as well until the Stones are finished - which again points to U2 touring in 2014, with the album release Oct / Nov next year.

I gotta disagree with you about the tour. This year Springsteen toured the same time when Paul McCartney did and the same time Roger Waters was selling out stadiums. McCartney played in my city last Sunday, and Springsteen played Monday and still sold out every seat in the building. U2 are big enough that they certainly don't have to worry about Muse or the Killers, and there's still enough room for big acts like the Stones and U2 to tour in the same year.

Yes... I don't think there is much of a danger of overlap.  How many people would want to go to multiple shows like that but wouldn't if they were all going at the same time.  I typically budget my touring a bit by act rather than by time because when you wait 5 years between tours, I'm not going to let the odd coincidence of 3 of my favorite acts touring at once stop me, except if they happened to choose the same day to play in my area.