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Title: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: monopoly on March 20, 2017, 02:27:51 PM
Just checked Kentucky and there's still GA for sale from TM. And there's an abundance of seats all around.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: riffraff on March 20, 2017, 02:49:16 PM
 How can that be?
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on March 20, 2017, 03:24:56 PM
Let them have basketball.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: riffraff on March 20, 2017, 03:27:00 PM
no kidding!
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: cocamojoe on March 20, 2017, 04:38:27 PM
Ticket sales actually aren't as bad as you make it sound. For starters, on Ticketmaster, under "type", uncheck the resell tickets. Once you add up all of the available seats, it totals 3,804. For some reason, Ticketmaster has stopped showing the number of remaining available GA tickets; but I'm just going to guesstimate it as roughly 2,000, which would bring the total number of available tickets to 5,804. According to Wikipedia, the stadium has a total of 55,000 seats. Some of the seats, roughly parallel to the stage, are blocked off for sight purposes; but, the volume of available GA tickets likely more than makes up for those lost seats, probably bumping the capacity for this show to roughly 57,000.

With all of that said, based on my estimate of 5,804 available tickets (again, 3,804 remaining seats + what I expect is as many as 2,000 remaining GA tickets), that means that, at present, the Louisville concert is 90% soldout.

I speak for none but myself, but I think that being at 90% soldout thus far is pretty damn good. As today is March 20 and the concert isn't until June 16, I expect that most, if not all, of the remaining tickets will ultimately be sold.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: monopoly on March 20, 2017, 05:32:19 PM
It's just shocking to see GA tickets available from TM 2 months after being on sale. It's like scalpers didn't even bother
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: Saint1322 on March 21, 2017, 02:31:07 PM
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It's just shocking to see GA tickets available from TM 2 months after being on sale. It's like scalpers didn't even bother

This is what happens when you put a show on sale after everyone has already made plans. At these prices, most people can't do two dates, and this show is so close to the other nearest show -- Tampa -- that people (like me) who are already committed to Tampa can't add Louisville.

It's pretty simple. And it is no reflection on U2 or the state of Kentucky. If that show had gone on sale at the same time as the rest, we aren't having this conversation.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: miryclay on March 21, 2017, 02:38:56 PM
You know, it would really be a good strategy to see U2 in smaller markets. More travel but less secondary prices.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: cocamojoe on March 21, 2017, 05:55:50 PM
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It's just shocking to see GA tickets available from TM 2 months after being on sale. It's like scalpers didn't even bother

This is what happens when you put a show on sale after everyone has already made plans. At these prices, most people can't do two dates, and this show is so close to the other nearest show -- Tampa -- that people (like me) who are already committed to Tampa can't add Louisville.

It's pretty simple. And it is no reflection on U2 or the state of Kentucky. If that show had gone on sale at the same time as the rest, we aren't having this conversation.

And, yet, it's still at 90% soldout.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: tigerfan41 on March 21, 2017, 07:43:32 PM
Pittsburgh still has over 2500 GA tickets available plus a slew of other tickets ($35 tickets could still be had as recently as two weeks ago). I'd say that one is selling worse than Louisville and it's been available longer than Louisville.

As someone who wants to catch the guys twice on this tour, it's a good thing for me. I'll be going to Pitt and Cleveland (rather than Cleveland and Chicago as I had planned) since it's cheaper for me and I'm not in as much of a rush to secure tickets for the Pitt concert. But I am hoping the show ultimately sells out.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: cocamojoe on March 21, 2017, 09:12:35 PM
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Pittsburgh still has over 2500 GA tickets available plus a slew of other tickets ($35 tickets could still be had as recently as two weeks ago). I'd say that one is selling worse than Louisville and it's been available longer than Louisville.

As someone who wants to catch the guys twice on this tour, it's a good thing for me. I'll be going to Pitt and Cleveland (rather than Cleveland and Chicago as I had planned) since it's cheaper for me and I'm not in as much of a rush to secure tickets for the Pitt concert. But I am hoping the show ultimately sells out.
I recently did the math for the Pittsburgh show, and it's actually about 91-92% soldout.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: monopoly on March 21, 2017, 11:22:03 PM
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Pittsburgh still has over 2500 GA tickets available plus a slew of other tickets ($35 tickets could still be had as recently as two weeks ago). I'd say that one is selling worse than Louisville and it's been available longer than Louisville.

As someone who wants to catch the guys twice on this tour, it's a good thing for me. I'll be going to Pitt and Cleveland (rather than Cleveland and Chicago as I had planned) since it's cheaper for me and I'm not in as much of a rush to secure tickets for the Pitt concert. But I am hoping the show ultimately sells out.
I recently did the math for the Pittsburgh show, and it's actually about 91-92% soldout.

That's great but the main point is GA tickets are available 2 months in. Regardless of what's sold, the very fact that you can buy a GA this easily and late in is something that I don't recall has ever happened. Will they sell by opening night? Most likely. But right now for that type of ticket to still be available is not the norm... of. Of course they always do GA drops on show days too.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: tigerfan41 on March 21, 2017, 11:55:41 PM
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Pittsburgh still has over 2500 GA tickets available plus a slew of other tickets ($35 tickets could still be had as recently as two weeks ago). I'd say that one is selling worse than Louisville and it's been available longer than Louisville.

As someone who wants to catch the guys twice on this tour, it's a good thing for me. I'll be going to Pitt and Cleveland (rather than Cleveland and Chicago as I had planned) since it's cheaper for me and I'm not in as much of a rush to secure tickets for the Pitt concert. But I am hoping the show ultimately sells out.
I recently did the math for the Pittsburgh show, and it's actually about 91-92% soldout.

That's great but the main point is GA tickets are available 2 months in. Regardless of what's sold, the very fact that you can buy a GA this easily and late in is something that I don't recall has ever happened. Will they sell by opening night? Most likely. But right now for that type of ticket to still be available is not the norm... of. Of course they always do GA drops on show days too.

Right, regardless of how much the rest of the concert is "sold out", the fact that they still have so many GA tickets available less than 2.5 months before the concert is concerning. In fact, that they have any tickets available now is out of the ordinary. I mean, the Chicago and Cleveland concerts were almost instant sellouts. Just about every other city was, too.

The only thing I can think of is that people are choosing to go to Cleveland rather than PA since it's a weekend show. Being smack dab in the middle of the week is definitely hurting sales.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: an tha on March 22, 2017, 01:31:36 AM
Honestly do people actually care if a bunch of multi millionaires getting paid by a multi billion pound corporation sell out a venue or not?



Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: cocamojoe on March 22, 2017, 04:31:25 AM
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Honestly do people actually care if a bunch of multi millionaires getting paid by a multi billion pound corporation sell out a venue or not?

I'm 1,000% with you, An Tha; I find it rather funny that anyone would find anything "concerning" when tickets are at 90%+ soldout, regardless of where in the stadium they may be. They seem to forget that several cities on both the last two tours were slow to sellout (though they did ultimately sellout).

Also, I'm GA for Pittsburgh....... I honestly wouldn't mind if there 1,000 less sweaty bodies down there with me.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: Saint1322 on March 22, 2017, 09:18:05 AM
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Honestly do people actually care if a bunch of multi millionaires getting paid by a multi billion pound corporation sell out a venue or not?





Because as fans we want to see U2 do well.
Because tickets sales could influence the itinerary for future shows, meaning that it is about more than just the multimillionaires.

I live in Northwest Alabama. I'd rather not fly halfway across the country next year to see I+E if I can avoid it. If ticket sales are soft in some markets, it matters.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: cocamojoe on March 22, 2017, 11:37:23 AM
With sales where they presently are for Louisville, the band easily stands to make around $3-million, if not more, just from tickets (i.e., not including merchandise).

As I've said, tickets are around 90% soldout, with the show being a few months out. There's no possible way that this can be construed as a negative, and especially as if the band is somehow "not doing well".

Case in point, stadium shows in Tampa have consistently failed to sell 100% of tickets, yet they still book there on practically every tour. Same with other mega acts: I saw Springsteen in Pittsburgh last September, and there were about 3,000 unsold tickets. They still made close to $2 million on ticket sales, played for almost 4 hours, and I guarantee you that he'll be back, either w his own band or to play w Joe Grueshecky again. It's not like he'll be thinking, "You know, we only sold 16,000 out of 19,000 tickets, so, despite making over $1.5 million, that night was a failure. Let's not play there again."

Gimme a break.

I do get not wanting to travel crazy far for a show, though. U2 normally plays Atlanta, which is close to Birmingham, but I think that they're renovating the Georgia Dome right now? I know that the new baseball stadium will be up-and-running by then, but they haven't played baseball stadiums with any consistency over the years (Busch and Angels Stadium on the 360 tour is really all that springs to mind).
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: an tha on March 22, 2017, 11:45:23 AM
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Honestly do people actually care if a bunch of multi millionaires getting paid by a multi billion pound corporation sell out a venue or not?





Because as fans we want to see U2 do well.
Because tickets sales could influence the itinerary for future shows, meaning that it is about more than just the multimillionaires.

I live in Northwest Alabama. I'd rather not fly halfway across the country next year to see I+E if I can avoid it. If ticket sales are soft in some markets, it matters.

I can see your point about sales impacting future plans - although it may be the case that they are already well on the way to only or mainly playing major 'markets' time will tell.

As for wanting to see them 'do well' i personally don't really care if they shift 80% of a venue and gross 4m 90% of a venue and gross 5m or 100% and gross 6m or whatever the numbers are.......as a potential consumer (although i declined to buy for this tour) I may possibly lean towards preferring lower sales figures if pushed as that could help drive down ticket prices going forward.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: cocamojoe on March 22, 2017, 12:40:19 PM
I will say that the vast amount of tickets at $280 for this tour is pretty ridiculous, especially when compared to past tours, both arena and stadium.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: Saint1322 on March 22, 2017, 02:42:34 PM
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With sales where they presently are for Louisville, the band easily stands to make around $3-million, if not more, just from tickets (i.e., not including merchandise).

As I've said, tickets are around 90% soldout, with the show being a few months out. There's no possible way that this can be construed as a negative, and especially as if the band is somehow "not doing well".

Case in point, stadium shows in Tampa have consistently failed to sell 100% of tickets, yet they still book there on practically every tour. Same with other mega acts: I saw Springsteen in Pittsburgh last September, and there were about 3,000 unsold tickets. They still made close to $2 million on ticket sales, played for almost 4 hours, and I guarantee you that he'll be back, either w his own band or to play w Joe Grueshecky again. It's not like he'll be thinking, "You know, we only sold 16,000 out of 19,000 tickets, so, despite making over $1.5 million, that night was a failure. Let's not play there again."

Gimme a break.

I do get not wanting to travel crazy far for a show, though. U2 normally plays Atlanta, which is close to Birmingham, but I think that they're renovating the Georgia Dome right now? I know that the new baseball stadium will be up-and-running by then, but they haven't played baseball stadiums with any consistency over the years (Busch and Angels Stadium on the 360 tour is really all that springs to mind).

The Georgia Dome is about to be demolished. A new dome will be opening next door this fall. I feel fairly certain that this is why they didn't play Atlanta this time around.

Birmingham's lone stadium is Legion Field (U2 played there on ZooTV -- good boot of it called Hallelujah, My Girl) and that place is a dump and in an EXTREMELY dangerous part of town. I can't think of any band playing a show there since the mid-90s, when Pink Floyd and The Stones came through.

I had hoped U2 might hit Nashville again this time, but I guess Bonneroo knocked that out.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: cocamojoe on March 22, 2017, 03:25:45 PM
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With sales where they presently are for Louisville, the band easily stands to make around $3-million, if not more, just from tickets (i.e., not including merchandise).

As I've said, tickets are around 90% soldout, with the show being a few months out. There's no possible way that this can be construed as a negative, and especially as if the band is somehow "not doing well".

Case in point, stadium shows in Tampa have consistently failed to sell 100% of tickets, yet they still book there on practically every tour. Same with other mega acts: I saw Springsteen in Pittsburgh last September, and there were about 3,000 unsold tickets. They still made close to $2 million on ticket sales, played for almost 4 hours, and I guarantee you that he'll be back, either w his own band or to play w Joe Grueshecky again. It's not like he'll be thinking, "You know, we only sold 16,000 out of 19,000 tickets, so, despite making over $1.5 million, that night was a failure. Let's not play there again."

Gimme a break.

I do get not wanting to travel crazy far for a show, though. U2 normally plays Atlanta, which is close to Birmingham, but I think that they're renovating the Georgia Dome right now? I know that the new baseball stadium will be up-and-running by then, but they haven't played baseball stadiums with any consistency over the years (Busch and Angels Stadium on the 360 tour is really all that springs to mind).

The Georgia Dome is about to be demolished. A new dome will be opening next door this fall. I feel fairly certain that this is why they didn't play Atlanta this time around.

Birmingham's lone stadium is Legion Field (U2 played there on ZooTV -- good boot of it called Hallelujah, My Girl) and that place is a dump and in an EXTREMELY dangerous part of town. I can't think of any band playing a show there since the mid-90s, when Pink Floyd and The Stones came through.

I had hoped U2 might hit Nashville again this time, but I guess Bonneroo knocked that out.
They should've played either Raleigh or Charlotte, logistically speaking, but it's come out that they turned down an offer to play in North Carolina, but refused to do so over the "bathroom law".
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: tigerfan41 on March 22, 2017, 09:22:16 PM
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Honestly do people actually care if a bunch of multi millionaires getting paid by a multi billion pound corporation sell out a venue or not?

I'm 1,000% with you, An Tha; I find it rather funny that anyone would find anything "concerning" when tickets are at 90%+ soldout, regardless of where in the stadium they may be. They seem to forget that several cities on both the last two tours were slow to sellout (though they did ultimately sellout).

Also, I'm GA for Pittsburgh....... I honestly wouldn't mind if there 1,000 less sweaty bodies down there with me.

As long as they don't have another PopMart on their hands (where some shows were under 50% full), that's really all I care about.

I also wouldn't mind if there were less GA people at Pittsburgh. In fact, I'm counting on it which is why I picked PA above Louisville and other potential shows.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: podiumboy on March 22, 2017, 09:27:03 PM
The last time I checked, Louisville had 1,500 floor tickets still available.  That was probably last week sometime, and the ability to see that is gone now.  This Louisville show will at least look pretty full by the day of the show, even if it doesn't technically sell out.  There won't be acres of empty seats like there were during Popmart.  Tampa and Houston will most likely sell out.  Pittsburgh is probably going to look the most empty out of all of them.  Even 360 had a few shows that didn't sell out, including Pittsburgh (I was there, I saw the empty seats in the upper levels). 

U2 are selling well.  They're still one of the top draws in the concert business, if not THE top draw.  If you want to see stadiums not selling well, check some of the shows by Coldplay or Guns n Roses for this year.  Or check out bands like Nickelback or Kings of Leon, who are unable to fill arenas or 20K amphitheaters to even half capacity. 
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: cocamojoe on March 22, 2017, 09:39:56 PM
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The last time I checked, Louisville had 1,500 floor tickets still available.  That was probably last week sometime, and the ability to see that is gone now.  This Louisville show will at least look pretty full by the day of the show, even if it doesn't technically sell out.  There won't be acres of empty seats like there were during Popmart.  Tampa and Houston will most likely sell out.  Pittsburgh is probably going to look the most empty out of all of them.  Even 360 had a few shows that didn't sell out, including Pittsburgh (I was there, I saw the empty seats in the upper levels). 

U2 are selling well.  They're still one of the top draws in the concert business, if not THE top draw.  If you want to see stadiums not selling well, check some of the shows by Coldplay or Guns n Roses for this year.  Or check out bands like Nickelback or Kings of Leon, who are unable to fill arenas or 20K amphitheaters to even half capacity. 

As I said earlier, the Pittsburgh show has crossed the 90% mark. And, I was at the 360 show in Pittsburgh. As I recall, that show was initially billed as the final show, before they eventually announced Moncton. A lot of those empty seats in the upper reaches in Pittsburgh had been sold on Ticketmaster, but then dumped onto the secondary market after Moncton was announced. Some were just diehards who preferred to go to the final show; others were legit scalpers who were losing money, blaming it on Moncton (I met one at a friend's house, and he was saying how the secondary market had no money to really make on that years U2 show, specifically blaming that final Canadian show).

Also, if you go to the Wikipedia page for the current Guns N' Roses tour (which I saw at Heinz Field last summer), and to the tour dates section, you can see which cities didn't sellout. In total, the tour, thus far, is listing at something like 92% soldout. So far as I'm concerned, that's nothing to be ashamed of!

I will also be in the GA for Pittsburgh, btw; in the stands for the second Chicago show, too.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: podiumboy on March 22, 2017, 10:04:58 PM
Check Guns n Roses upcoming shows on ticketmaster.  I believe I counted something like 30,000 unsold seats for the Denver show (NOT including resale tickets). 

Last year's shows mostly sold well for GNR, but the hype has clearly worn off.  Cities like Miami have 10,000+ unsold seats, whereas U2 sold out a bigger stadium in 1 day.  GNR might still end up with one of the top 10 grossing tours of all time, so it just goes to show ticket sales don't mean everything.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: tigerfan41 on March 22, 2017, 11:36:24 PM
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Check Guns n Roses upcoming shows on ticketmaster.  I believe I counted something like 30,000 unsold seats for the Denver show (NOT including resale tickets). 

Last year's shows mostly sold well for GNR, but the hype has clearly worn off.  Cities like Miami have 10,000+ unsold seats, whereas U2 sold out a bigger stadium in 1 day.  GNR might still end up with one of the top 10 grossing tours of all time, so it just goes to show ticket sales don't mean everything.

This doesn't surprise me. The Guns tickets seem grossly overpriced. Same with Coldplay. I can see one of the biggest bands of all time (U2) in GA for a fraction of the cost of a floor seat for Guns or Coldplay. Yes, it is special that the guys got back together, but even that nostalgia doesn't necessitate the absurd ticket prices.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: Saint1322 on March 23, 2017, 12:19:27 PM
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Check Guns n Roses upcoming shows on ticketmaster.  I believe I counted something like 30,000 unsold seats for the Denver show (NOT including resale tickets). 

Last year's shows mostly sold well for GNR, but the hype has clearly worn off.  Cities like Miami have 10,000+ unsold seats, whereas U2 sold out a bigger stadium in 1 day.  GNR might still end up with one of the top 10 grossing tours of all time, so it just goes to show ticket sales don't mean everything.

Did you see the attendance for Guns' second show in Boston last year? I think it sold about 25 percent. They ended up closing off the entire top section and upgrading people who had bought nosebleeds to lower bowl.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: edge726 on March 23, 2017, 06:06:16 PM
They can't spell either

 ;) ;)

I kid
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: PopMart_1997 on March 23, 2017, 07:51:37 PM
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I will say that the vast amount of tickets at $280 for this tour is pretty ridiculous, especially when compared to past tours, both arena and stadium.
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Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: miryclay on March 23, 2017, 07:58:51 PM
These poorly selling Louisville and Pittsburgh shows have got me thinking.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: Monicalea on March 24, 2017, 06:32:18 PM
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How can that be?

It's Kentucky.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: riffraff on March 25, 2017, 05:15:10 AM
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How can that be?

It's Kentucky.
Best answer yet.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: Ultrafly on March 25, 2017, 06:10:32 AM
Jacksonville in 1997 had around 52,000 unsold tickets!
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: Monicalea on March 25, 2017, 03:25:51 PM
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How can that be?

It's Kentucky.
Best answer yet.

I've lived here for close to two and a half years and I can tell you, it's definitely true. People in Kentucky aren't all that hot for U2 and people outside aren't too hot on Kentucky. Because Kentucky.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: riffraff on March 25, 2017, 05:38:16 PM
well, it IS pretty, in parts of it...but, still, Kentucky
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: cocamojoe on March 26, 2017, 03:24:48 AM
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Check Guns n Roses upcoming shows on ticketmaster.  I believe I counted something like 30,000 unsold seats for the Denver show (NOT including resale tickets). 

Last year's shows mostly sold well for GNR, but the hype has clearly worn off.  Cities like Miami have 10,000+ unsold seats, whereas U2 sold out a bigger stadium in 1 day.  GNR might still end up with one of the top 10 grossing tours of all time, so it just goes to show ticket sales don't mean everything.

Did you see the attendance for Guns' second show in Boston last year? I think it sold about 25 percent. They ended up closing off the entire top section and upgrading people who had bought nosebleeds to lower bowl.

According to the Wikipedia page on the current Guns N' Roses tour, the "Boston" shows sold 65,472 out of 71,098, earning $8,302,575 in ticket sales.

While I assume that the opening night was either at or near capacity, with the unsold tickets primarily being at the second show (I know that this happened in Chicago, which sold 82,172 out of an available 96,088 tickets, earning roughly the same amount as Boston: over $8-million), that is still the definition of success by any measure.

As I've said again and again, as best as I can tell, both the Louisville and Pittsburgh shows are at, near, or slightly above 90% in terms of ticket sales.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: Monicalea on March 26, 2017, 04:45:38 PM
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well, it IS pretty, in parts of it...but, still, Kentucky

Oh, lots of it is absolutely gorgeous, but really Kentucky.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: cocamojoe on March 26, 2017, 05:23:16 PM
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well, it IS pretty, in parts of it...but, still, Kentucky

Oh, lots of it is absolutely gorgeous, but really Kentucky.

As I live in Pennsylvania, this Kentucky smack talk is especially hilarious to me, as we jokingly refer to the area between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia as Pennsyltucky.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: riffraff on March 26, 2017, 05:43:06 PM
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well, it IS pretty, in parts of it...but, still, Kentucky

Oh, lots of it is absolutely gorgeous, but really Kentucky.

As I live in Pennsylvania, this Kentucky smack talk is especially hilarious to me, as we jokingly refer to the area between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia as Pennsyltucky.
YES! I grew up near Philly, and we always said Pennsyltucky!
But, let's feel sorry for Kentucky right now...they just lost their game in March madness.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: cocamojoe on March 26, 2017, 05:44:27 PM
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well, it IS pretty, in parts of it...but, still, Kentucky

Oh, lots of it is absolutely gorgeous, but really Kentucky.

As I live in Pennsylvania, this Kentucky smack talk is especially hilarious to me, as we jokingly refer to the area between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia as Pennsyltucky.
YES! I grew up near Philly, and we always said Pennsyltucky!
But, let's feel sorry for Kentucky right now...they just lost their game in March madness.

Hahaha, I just saw the end of the game at one of my neighborhood bars..... here in Pittsburgh.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: Saint1322 on March 29, 2017, 10:00:34 AM
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Check Guns n Roses upcoming shows on ticketmaster.  I believe I counted something like 30,000 unsold seats for the Denver show (NOT including resale tickets). 

Last year's shows mostly sold well for GNR, but the hype has clearly worn off.  Cities like Miami have 10,000+ unsold seats, whereas U2 sold out a bigger stadium in 1 day.  GNR might still end up with one of the top 10 grossing tours of all time, so it just goes to show ticket sales don't mean everything.

Did you see the attendance for Guns' second show in Boston last year? I think it sold about 25 percent. They ended up closing off the entire top section and upgrading people who had bought nosebleeds to lower bowl.

According to the Wikipedia page on the current Guns N' Roses tour, the "Boston" shows sold 65,472 out of 71,098, earning $8,302,575 in ticket sales.

While I assume that the opening night was either at or near capacity, with the unsold tickets primarily being at the second show (I know that this happened in Chicago, which sold 82,172 out of an available 96,088 tickets, earning roughly the same amount as Boston: over $8-million), that is still the definition of success by any measure.

As I've said again and again, as best as I can tell, both the Louisville and Pittsburgh shows are at, near, or slightly above 90% in terms of ticket sales.

Yeah, I think the first GNR show sold fine and the second one was problematic. And I have said before, I've heard Pittsburgh has become a tough market for a lot of bands, so 90 percent is probably a solid take.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: Starman on March 31, 2017, 11:29:47 PM
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well, it IS pretty, in parts of it...but, still, Kentucky

Oh, lots of it is absolutely gorgeous, but really Kentucky.

As I live in Pennsylvania, this Kentucky smack talk is especially hilarious to me, as we jokingly refer to the area between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia as Pennsyltucky.

Yeah, yinzers unite!!
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: dirtdrybonesandstone on April 01, 2017, 12:35:19 PM
Louisville is a great town and worthy of a U2 show.    I would make the trek from St Louis if I knew they were going to play Heartland.    Otherwise, it seems pointless to see them on this tour, not to mention that they're playing acoustically-challenged stadiums.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: georgemccauley on April 02, 2017, 10:11:17 AM
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Check Guns n Roses upcoming shows on ticketmaster.  I believe I counted something like 30,000 unsold seats for the Denver show (NOT including resale tickets). 

Last year's shows mostly sold well for GNR, but the hype has clearly worn off.  Cities like Miami have 10,000+ unsold seats, whereas U2 sold out a bigger stadium in 1 day.  GNR might still end up with one of the top 10 grossing tours of all time, so it just goes to show ticket sales don't mean everything.

Did you see the attendance for Guns' second show in Boston last year? I think it sold about 25 percent. They ended up closing off the entire top section and upgrading people who had bought nosebleeds to lower bowl.

According to the Wikipedia page on the current Guns N' Roses tour, the "Boston" shows sold 65,472 out of 71,098, earning $8,302,575 in ticket sales.

While I assume that the opening night was either at or near capacity, with the unsold tickets primarily being at the second show (I know that this happened in Chicago, which sold 82,172 out of an available 96,088 tickets, earning roughly the same amount as Boston: over $8-million), that is still the definition of success by any measure.

As I've said again and again, as best as I can tell, both the Louisville and Pittsburgh shows are at, near, or slightly above 90% in terms of ticket sales.

So based on that, surely there's a great chance of selling that final 10% before show night? Interested to know from the ticket and sales nerds the chances of this tour being a complete sell out. Not that it will affect anything band related but for U2 at this stage in their career it would be an amazing achievement if they could completely sell 100% for every date on this tour, i'd love to see it!
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: Fastcars12 on April 02, 2017, 06:05:29 PM
In for 2 GAs for Pitt. Personally I wouldn't mind walking into the stadium at 7pm and right up to the stage. Assuming that can happen if they don't sell many more GAs
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: Kmama07 on April 03, 2017, 03:32:46 PM
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Honestly do people actually care if a bunch of multi millionaires getting paid by a multi billion pound corporation sell out a venue or not?

I'm 1,000% with you, An Tha; I find it rather funny that anyone would find anything "concerning" when tickets are at 90%+ soldout, regardless of where in the stadium they may be. They seem to forget that several cities on both the last two tours were slow to sellout (though they did ultimately sellout).

Also, I'm GA for Pittsburgh....... I honestly wouldn't mind if there 1,000 less sweaty bodies down there with me.
Haha. I agree with you both. Honestly, I don't enjoy GA in stadiums anyhow. I'm holding out for (lower bowl) seats in Cleveland...
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: skelter on April 19, 2017, 05:19:19 PM
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In for 2 GAs for Pitt. Personally I wouldn't mind walking into the stadium at 7pm and right up to the stage. Assuming that can happen if they don't sell many more GAs

I'm in the same boat as you except I'm in for 1 GA for Louisville. I truly believe (ok, hope) that Pittsburgh and Louisville are the quietest and calmest on this tour stop.

The locals don't seem particularly excited about U2, GA tix are still freely available. Maybe corporations will give out the $300 SEATS to their vips and keep the GA floor calm. Also maybe the line Nazis would have made travel plans that did not include Pitts or Louisville (who am I kidding? Some line Nazi types have to be at the front of every show, rain or shine).

monopoly, THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS THREAD. I read the title and was like "since when is U2 playing Kentucky?" I did not follow the JT tour schedule closely because I never intended to attend. Quite effering depressed and stressed in my real life and damn job. Finally something worth being alive for.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: monopoly on April 19, 2017, 05:30:15 PM
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In for 2 GAs for Pitt. Personally I wouldn't mind walking into the stadium at 7pm and right up to the stage. Assuming that can happen if they don't sell many more GAs

I'm in the same boat as you except I'm in for 1 GA for Louisville. I truly believe (ok, hope) that Pittsburgh and Louisville are the quietest and calmest on this tour stop.

The locals don't seem particularly excited about U2, GA tix are still freely available. Maybe corporations will give out the $300 SEATS to their vips and keep the GA floor calm. Also maybe the line Nazis would have made travel plans that did not include Pitts or Louisville (who am I kidding? Some line Nazi types have to be at the front of every show, rain or shine).

monopoly, THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS THREAD. I read the title and was like "since when is U2 playing Kentucky?" I did not follow the JT tour schedule closely because I never intended to attend. Quite effering depressed and stressed in my real life and damn job. Finally something worth being alive for.

Well I guess Kentucky just sold another ticket...
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: skelter on April 19, 2017, 05:38:34 PM
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Well I guess Kentucky just sold another ticket...

YES and it's thanks to you and this thread! Are you coming? Or were you just a ticket sales analyst?  ;D

SOOOOO surprised they picked Louisville. I thought they would choose Cincinnati or Columbus (but they already have Cleveland and Pittsburgh, which are similar-sized Midwest cities). I guess Louisville represents "the south" on this tour.

Pretty obvious they added Louisville because it's close to Bonaroo festival in Tennessee I guess.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: Kayni on June 11, 2017, 08:24:40 AM
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It's just shocking to see GA tickets available from TM 2 months after being on sale. It's like scalpers didn't even bother

This is what happens when you put a show on sale after everyone has already made plans. At these prices, most people can't do two dates, and this show is so close to the other nearest show -- Tampa -- that people (like me) who are already committed to Tampa can't add Louisville.

It's pretty simple. And it is no reflection on U2 or the state of Kentucky. If that show had gone on sale at the same time as the rest, we aren't having this conversation.

This. I live in Louisville and was trying to get tickets to Chicago because, at the time, that was my closest show. Had I been successful, there's no way I could have also done Louisville. Most people in this region had probably already made plans to go to Chicago, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, or even Bonnaroo. As of Friday, there were still plenty of tickets available all over the stadium (which just holds 55,000), so I'm going to be interested to see exactly what the final turn out is.

Of course, I've been dancing around town since the tickets went on sale. I'm so excited to see my boys in my hometown and in a smaller stadium. :)
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: Kayni on June 11, 2017, 08:29:37 AM
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Well I guess Kentucky just sold another ticket...

YES and it's thanks to you and this thread! Are you coming? Or were you just a ticket sales analyst?  ;D

SOOOOO surprised they picked Louisville. I thought they would choose Cincinnati or Columbus (but they already have Cleveland and Pittsburgh, which are similar-sized Midwest cities). I guess Louisville represents "the south" on this tour.

Pretty obvious they added Louisville because it's close to Bonaroo festival in Tennessee I guess.

If I recall correctly, it's some kind of partnership or sponsorship with UPS, whose main hub is in Louisville. Could be wrong, but I feel like I read that somewhere when the tour date was announced.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: miryclay on June 11, 2017, 12:28:07 PM
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It's just shocking to see GA tickets available from TM 2 months after being on sale. It's like scalpers didn't even bother

This is what happens when you put a show on sale after everyone has already made plans. At these prices, most people can't do two dates, and this show is so close to the other nearest show -- Tampa -- that people (like me) who are already committed to Tampa can't add Louisville.

It's pretty simple. And it is no reflection on U2 or the state of Kentucky. If that show had gone on sale at the same time as the rest, we aren't having this conversation.

This. I live in Louisville and was trying to get tickets to Chicago because, at the time, that was my closest show. Had I been successful, there's no way I could have also done Louisville. Most people in this region had probably already made plans to go to Chicago, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, or even Bonnaroo. As of Friday, there were still plenty of tickets available all over the stadium (which just holds 55,000), so I'm going to be interested to see exactly what the final turn out is.

Of course, I've been dancing around town since the tickets went on sale. I'm so excited to see my boys in my hometown and in a smaller stadium. :)

Where are these GAs?
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: miryclay on June 11, 2017, 12:33:23 PM
Let's not forget that this is the hometown gig for Dallas Schoo
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: skelter on June 11, 2017, 01:02:01 PM
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Let's not forget that this is the hometown gig for Dallas Schoo

Well, that's important to us, but no one else! Doesn't Dallas live in Boulder CO when he's not working now? Also, these GAs were still available on April 19  :D
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: monopoly on June 11, 2017, 06:42:38 PM
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Let's not forget that this is the hometown gig for Dallas Schoo

Well, that's important to us, but no one else! Doesn't Dallas live in Boulder CO when he's not working now? Also, these GAs were still available on April 19  :D

He does love in CO...
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: JohnMegadeth on June 12, 2017, 08:42:13 AM
Alright, so this piqued my interest. Sure enough, there are $35 seats still available.

My son (turns 8 in two weeks) expressed interest in going to see U2 "next time" (my wife and I saw them in Arlington a couple of weeks ago). We can fly for free (non-rev), so I'm thinking about possibly getting tickets and going (although the flights don't look great).

If not, I may get some cheap seats for one of the shows that go on sale in a bit for later in the summer.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: miryclay on June 12, 2017, 09:38:56 AM
JohnMega, to be honest, the smaller market gigs look great. Less people, less traffic, more tickets available and affordable.   
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: Dedjeloc on June 12, 2017, 10:56:47 AM
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Alright, so this piqued my interest. Sure enough, there are $35 seats still available.
We have been eyeballing this for a while, if work cooperates, my wife and I may make a road trip. :)
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: Kayni on June 12, 2017, 04:02:10 PM
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Alright, so this piqued my interest. Sure enough, there are $35 seats still available.

My son (turns 8 in two weeks) expressed interest in going to see U2 "next time" (my wife and I saw them in Arlington a couple of weeks ago). We can fly for free (non-rev), so I'm thinking about possibly getting tickets and going (although the flights don't look great).

If not, I may get some cheap seats for one of the shows that go on sale in a bit for later in the summer.

Louisville's airport is extremely lacking, and it's always a pain trying to get a decently timed flight. That being said...do it! It's actually easy to get to the stadium from the airport. Not only that, it's a great city to spend the weekend in! :) And I'm very happy to give any food/drink/entertainment suggestions!

I'm going out on a limb here, but I think the Indy show will sell about like Louisville. So that might also be one to check out tickets/flights.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: skelter on June 12, 2017, 04:17:21 PM
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Alright, so this piqued my interest. Sure enough, there are $35 seats still available.

My son (turns 8 in two weeks) expressed interest in going to see U2 "next time" (my wife and I saw them in Arlington a couple of weeks ago). We can fly for free (non-rev), so I'm thinking about possibly getting tickets and going (although the flights don't look great).

If not, I may get some cheap seats for one of the shows that go on sale in a bit for later in the summer.

Louisville's airport is extremely lacking, and it's always a pain trying to get a decently timed flight. That being said...do it! It's actually easy to get to the stadium from the airport. Not only that, it's a great city to spend the weekend in! :) And I'm very happy to give any food/drink/entertainment suggestions!

I'm going out on a limb here, but I think the Indy show will sell about like Louisville. So that might also be one to check out tickets/flights.

Thanks Kayni. Cool to think the band themselves will fly into the Louisville airport (probably Friday showday afternoon). I see the airport is just south of the papajohn's Cardinal's stadium.

On Saturday I might explore a bit. Anywhere with generous parking up north along the Ohio River? It can be anywhere along the river, from the Waterfront Park stretching all the way West.

I see Fri-Sat is KY Pride Festival at the Belvedere (??), so I might avoid the downtown river area to avoid downtown+festival traffic.

Maybe I should stay south by Churchill Downs (KY Derby), or see if there's anything going on in the KY Expo Center/Freedom Hall.

edit: there is NOTHING going on at the KY Expo Center/Freedom Hall on 16-17 June. poopoo.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: monopoly on June 12, 2017, 04:49:33 PM
Seeing tons of seats for San Diego. What's up with the VIP Section inside the soundboard/mixing desk?
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: GPitt on June 12, 2017, 07:10:26 PM
I'm thinking about driving over from Pittsburgh for the show if I can get cheap tix like I did here. Louisville is one of my favorite cities!
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: Kayni on June 13, 2017, 10:04:55 AM
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Alright, so this piqued my interest. Sure enough, there are $35 seats still available.

My son (turns 8 in two weeks) expressed interest in going to see U2 "next time" (my wife and I saw them in Arlington a couple of weeks ago). We can fly for free (non-rev), so I'm thinking about possibly getting tickets and going (although the flights don't look great).

If not, I may get some cheap seats for one of the shows that go on sale in a bit for later in the summer.

Louisville's airport is extremely lacking, and it's always a pain trying to get a decently timed flight. That being said...do it! It's actually easy to get to the stadium from the airport. Not only that, it's a great city to spend the weekend in! :) And I'm very happy to give any food/drink/entertainment suggestions!

I'm going out on a limb here, but I think the Indy show will sell about like Louisville. So that might also be one to check out tickets/flights.

Thanks Kayni. Cool to think the band themselves will fly into the Louisville airport (probably Friday showday afternoon). I see the airport is just south of the papajohn's Cardinal's stadium.

On Saturday I might explore a bit. Anywhere with generous parking up north along the Ohio River? It can be anywhere along the river, from the Waterfront Park stretching all the way West.

I see Fri-Sat is KY Pride Festival at the Belvedere (??), so I might avoid the downtown river area to avoid downtown+festival traffic.

Maybe I should stay south by Churchill Downs (KY Derby), or see if there's anything going on in the KY Expo Center/Freedom Hall.

edit: there is NOTHING going on at the KY Expo Center/Freedom Hall on 16-17 June. poopoo.

Yep, Pride Festival will clog up downtown a little...especially on Friday which is parade day. Thankfully the airport and the stadium are not very close to downtown.  Waterfront Park has decent parking, especially further east of downtown. If it isn't too hot, it would be fun to park at Big Four Bridge and walk across to Jeffersonville, IN. Their waterfront area is also beautiful, and there are some great places for food there. If you like craft beer, Flat 12 Brewery is in walking distance from the bridge, and they have a great deck looking over the river.

Speaking of Craft Beer, Louisville has some great places to check that won't be caught in Pride congestion either. Mile Wide Brewing is my favorite, in the Highlands. Monnik Beer in Germantown is also great (and if you're not into craft beer, Monnik has a great menu regardless).

"NuLu" (I hate that name but there it is), which is basically East Market Street, has plenty of great restaurants and bars. I can recommend Grind Burger Kitchen and Royals Hot Chicken.

Saturday Night Ha Ha Tonka is playing Zanzabar, which is also home to an extremely impressive pinball collection.

As far as lodging...I'm not sure what the hotel situation will look like, but if you use AirBnB there should be some fun choices. Look for things in the Highlands, Frankfort Avenue, even Jeffersonville, IN.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: u2fanaticforever on June 14, 2017, 01:57:31 PM
I have 2 Red Zone tickets to sell - I don't live in the area and now have a personal conflict and unfortunately can't go (don't worry, seeing them in Red Zone in Cleveland!) - Selling for $375 each.  I was able to change the name at Will Call to my friend who lives there and who already has GA seats (and he doesn't have the money to spend on RZ) - and he will meet you to give you the tickets.  Message me if interested! 
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: skelter on June 14, 2017, 05:56:01 PM
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Yep, Pride Festival will clog up downtown a little...especially on Friday which is parade day. Thankfully the airport and the stadium are not very close to downtown.  Waterfront Park has decent parking, especially further east of downtown. If it isn't too hot, it would be fun to park at Big Four Bridge and walk across to Jeffersonville, IN. Their waterfront area is also beautiful, and there are some great places for food there. If you like craft beer, Flat 12 Brewery is in walking distance from the bridge, and they have a great deck looking over the river.

Speaking of Craft Beer, Louisville has some great places to check that won't be caught in Pride congestion either. Mile Wide Brewing is my favorite, in the Highlands. Monnik Beer in Germantown is also great (and if you're not into craft beer, Monnik has a great menu regardless).

"NuLu" (I hate that name but there it is), which is basically East Market Street, has plenty of great restaurants and bars. I can recommend Grind Burger Kitchen and Royals Hot Chicken.

Saturday Night Ha Ha Tonka is playing Zanzabar, which is also home to an extremely impressive pinball collection.

As far as lodging...I'm not sure what the hotel situation will look like, but if you use AirBnB there should be some fun choices. Look for things in the Highlands, Frankfort Avenue, even Jeffersonville, IN.

Thank you kayni. Saturday is 95F, too hot to walk the Big Four Bridge sadly. I might park even further east of the bridge. Sadly the seafood restaurants there look lame, because it's so far from downtown. At least I could look at Ohio River.

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Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: U21978man on June 15, 2017, 06:49:29 AM
StubHub says 972 tickets left for louisville U 2 show tomorrow I,m not sure how accurate stubhub is ? Not a bad attendance if that's the case!
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: vegasn2001 on June 15, 2017, 07:12:10 AM
I am coming up with about 2000 (non resell) tickets remaining on Ticketmaster.  That's about half of what it was on Monday when I checked.  Stubhub shows only the tickets available on their own resell site. 

I am looking for advice on parking / traffic.

We are going to Churchill Downs before the show.  Its a mile from the venue.  I doubt we can leave our car there so what is the best place to park for an easy (least stressful) exit from the stadium?  We are driving back to Cincinnati after the show so I am willing to walk some if it means less time stuck in traffic.  Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: U21978man on June 15, 2017, 07:25:26 AM
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I am coming up with about 2000 (non resell) tickets remaining on Ticketmaster.  That's about half of what it was on Monday when I checked.  Stubhub shows only the tickets available on their own resell site. 

I am looking for advice on parking / traffic.

We are going to Churchill Downs before the show.  Its a mile from the venue.  I doubt we can leave our car there so what is the best place to park for an easy (least stressful) exit from the stadium?  We are driving back to Cincinnati after the show so I am willing to walk some if it means less time stuck in traffic.  Any suggestions?



the stadium parking opens at 2pm for $20 a day!   you could maybe park there?
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: vegasn2001 on June 15, 2017, 07:45:23 AM
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the stadium parking opens at 2pm for $20 a day!   you could maybe park there?

I may have to.  My original idea was to leave it at Churchill Downs, Lyft/Cab over to the stadium and walk back after.  I will have to ask someone there if its possible to leave my car.  If it wasn't going to be 93 degrees, I would just park at the stadium lot first, then walk over to the track.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: U21978man on June 15, 2017, 07:55:42 AM
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the stadium parking opens at 2pm for $20 a day!   you could maybe park there?

I may have to.  My original idea was to leave it at Churchill Downs, Lyft/Cab over to the stadium and walk back after.  I will have to ask someone there if its possible to leave my car.  If it wasn't going to be 93 degrees, I would just park at the stadium lot first, then walk over to the track.
I hope it all works out for you anyways enjoy the show !!! I know I will it's been 30 long years since I saw U2 live been  hooked on U2 ever since!
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: vegasn2001 on June 15, 2017, 08:24:13 AM
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I hope it all works out for you anyways enjoy the show !!! I know I will it's been 30 long years since I saw U2 live been  hooked on U2 ever since!

I definitely will enjoy the show.  I saw U2 during the Popmart tour but haven't seen them again since. 

Thanks for the advice and opening time on the parking lot!  Its incredibly useful.
Title: Re: Kentucky can't sell
Post by: Kayni on June 15, 2017, 12:34:49 PM
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I am coming up with about 2000 (non resell) tickets remaining on Ticketmaster.  That's about half of what it was on Monday when I checked.  Stubhub shows only the tickets available on their own resell site. 

I am looking for advice on parking / traffic.

We are going to Churchill Downs before the show.  Its a mile from the venue.  I doubt we can leave our car there so what is the best place to park for an easy (least stressful) exit from the stadium?  We are driving back to Cincinnati after the show so I am willing to walk some if it means less time stuck in traffic.  Any suggestions?

Maybe call Churchill Downs and ask how late their lots stay open? Parking there then lyfting to the stadium would definitely be your best bet to beat traffic that night, I'd imagine (though getting a lyft after the show may be tough).