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News and Rumors / Re: "And in the end..." the future of U2
« Last post by DPardue on December 15, 2017, 06:50:09 AM »
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I think they'll put out Songs of Ascent as their next and last album.

I have long believed this.  The title is almost prophetic.
Tours / Re: SOE tour opening act
« Last post by miryclay on December 15, 2017, 06:28:31 AM »
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Good suggestion.
The Music and Lyrics / Re: "Emotional Centerpieces" of U2 Tours
« Last post by lightmyway92 on December 15, 2017, 06:01:43 AM »
I think you could argue that "Zoo Station" and "The Fly," along with the other Achtung Baby songs that led off the set could be considered the emotional centerpiece of Zoo TV.  It announced, in a rather in-your-face way, what the tour was about and where U2 was at that time. It was just a different kind of emotional centerpiece.
The Music and Lyrics / Re: When did this forums opinion start changing on NLOTH?
« Last post by lightmyway92 on December 15, 2017, 05:58:35 AM »
In my opinion, "No Line on the Horizon" would have been a truly outstanding album (I still like it, though) if "Boots" and "Crazy Tonight" and (to a lesser degree) "Stand Up Comedy" were left off.  For me, the first three songs are excellent, especially the epic "Moment of Surrender."  I even like "Unknown Caller" to a degree, although I know some don't care for it.  I have really grown to appreciate the more moody, ambient and experimental tracks like "White as Snow," "Cedars of Lebanon" and "Fez."  "Breathe" is a truly energetic and upbeat song that I really like a lot. 
General U2 Discussion / Re: ATU2 Forum Refugees
« Last post by lightmyway92 on December 15, 2017, 05:39:28 AM »
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Wow, I just took a quick look at the Talk U2 forum.  Everything that I found so off-putting about this forum is all there at Talk U2.  It's the individuals that post there that used to post here.  This forum has improved so much in my opinion.

So I'm guessing you don't like respectful, open debate then? If you want a real "off-putting" forum, check out Interference. They're like savages in the Real World forum, although the other forums aren't terrible. Talk U2 are angels by comparison. You're making them out to be trouble makers, which, from all my lurking over there an other places, they are not. I get that people don't like some of the more negative posters like An Tha, but they do add something to the experience...a certain debate that is missing in a whitewashed forum where dissenting opinions aren't allowed.

I just signed up here because I'm an Italian U2 fan and want to know when-if the band might tour here again. Seems like this place doesn't welcome intelligent debate about the band's music, so I guess maybe I'll go back to lurking here and everywhere else.

True intelligent debate is perfectly compatible with being respectful toward other posters and toward the band as human beings. I thought An Tha was okay because, though he was a bit grumpy, he was at bottom civil and rational. At least that was my experience though it was maybe not everyone’s. Intelligent debate is not so compatible with holding dogmatic groupthink opinions that extend to the warping of facts, and reacting with over-the-top outrage and if these “correct” opinions are challenged. It’s funny how those who claim to value open debate are sometimes the very people who are the least tolerant of dissent.

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It wasn't the political arguments I was referring to.  It was the discussion of U2, believe it or not, that I was referring to.  It seemed like members would rather discuss what they disliked about U2 rather than what they liked about the band and their music.  That took a lot of the fun out of it for me. I would rather focus on the many things I love about U2, in all periods of their career, than dwell on what I dislike.  That's just a personal preference of mine, I know others feel differently.  I had the impression that a lot of the members hadn't really liked U2's music since about 20 years ago, except for a song here and there.  If I felt that way, I would have lost interest in U2 a long time ago, and definitely wouldn't seek out a U2 fan forum.
Prefer the Kimmel version. The SOE version is too diluted by over production. The guitar solo is not as impressive. Still a decent song.
Tours / Re: SOE tour opening act
« Last post by Waiting for this moment on December 15, 2017, 02:17:27 AM »
I like the Kimmel version and not the Seattle version which seems to be confided to the dustbins of history. Soe version is a massive let down and yes it holds a candle to MoS.
General U2 Discussion / Bono's voice on SOE
« Last post by bren4tha on December 15, 2017, 01:23:44 AM »
This is Bono's turn to really shine. Instead of the usual, complacent, slightly off key, dry, and quiet talk singing he has been using post ATYCLB His vocals on SOE are wide open and on key. I know that they re-recorded, changed, and touched up this album during the JT 2017 tour. Coincidentally Bono had to sing much deeper, more powerfully and operatic to fit these songs live. I notice that he carried this vocal style over to SOE. Just compare vocals from  SOI to SOE. His vocals are now much more atmospheric and enchanting. The producers added echo to Bono's vocals on many parts of the songs. He is singing perfectly on key and producing vocals and notes with ease that he could of never even attempted sine the mid 90's. When I listen to this album I can picture the late 80's to early 90's Bono singing these songs back then. I really believe that Bono rediscovered his older classic voice on the 2017 JT tour. I can't  stop listening to this album. The songs and melodies are so beautiful and captivating. The band really did an amazing job from top to bottom  on SOE.
General U2 Discussion / Re: U2 "Myths"
« Last post by summerholly on December 14, 2017, 09:34:37 PM »
I don't really care except some of the U2 stories have made me laugh really hard which is a good thing right.  At my age which is same as Bono I tell stories that shaped my life that are true but the dates could be well up the creek lol I mean who really cares.
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