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General U2 Discussion / Re: U2 "Myths"
« Last post by Luzita on December 14, 2017, 09:20:06 PM »
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Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
-Mark Twain Bono

I think the stories Bono tells are true to the moment of interpretation or the impact of the events on him. The exact timing of events may be off, but the pieces that are there leave a psychological mark. They shaped him and he shares the impact of the events truthfully. I think many of us do this without realizing it too.

This is right on the mark, I think. Bono is a natural storyteller. That doesn’t mean he lies.


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General U2 Discussion / “A Conspiracy of Hope and Light”
« Last post by revnathanhart on December 14, 2017, 08:19:12 PM »
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General U2 Discussion / Re: ATU2 Forum Refugees
« Last post by flaber on December 14, 2017, 07:12:40 PM »
^^^^ this

talkU2 forum is a nice idea when this place closed, but in reality it quickly became a dumpster fire and is turning into the_donald.

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Wow, I just took a quick look at the Talk U2 forum.  Everything that I found so off-putting about this forum is all there at Talk U2.  It's the individuals that post there that used to post here.  This forum has improved so much in my opinion.

So I'm guessing you don't like respectful, open debate then? If you want a real "off-putting" forum, check out Interference. They're like savages in the Real World forum, although the other forums aren't terrible. Talk U2 are angels by comparison. You're making them out to be trouble makers, which, from all my lurking over there an other places, they are not. I get that people don't like some of the more negative posters like An Tha, but they do add something to the experience...a certain debate that is missing in a whitewashed forum where dissenting opinions aren't allowed.


lol you are so transparent.
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General U2 Discussion / Re: ATU2 Forum Refugees
« Last post by Luzita on December 14, 2017, 06:50:52 PM »
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Wow, I just took a quick look at the Talk U2 forum.  Everything that I found so off-putting about this forum is all there at Talk U2.  It's the individuals that post there that used to post here.  This forum has improved so much in my opinion.

So I'm guessing you don't like respectful, open debate then? If you want a real "off-putting" forum, check out Interference. They're like savages in the Real World forum, although the other forums aren't terrible. Talk U2 are angels by comparison. You're making them out to be trouble makers, which, from all my lurking over there an other places, they are not. I get that people don't like some of the more negative posters like An Tha, but they do add something to the experience...a certain debate that is missing in a whitewashed forum where dissenting opinions aren't allowed.

I just signed up here because I'm an Italian U2 fan and want to know when-if the band might tour here again. Seems like this place doesn't welcome intelligent debate about the band's music, so I guess maybe I'll go back to lurking here and everywhere else.

True intelligent debate is perfectly compatible with being respectful toward other posters and toward the band as human beings. I thought An Tha was okay because, though he was a bit grumpy, he was at bottom civil and rational. At least that was my experience though it was maybe not everyone’s. Intelligent debate is not so compatible with holding dogmatic groupthink opinions that extend to the warping of facts, and reacting with over-the-top outrage and if these “correct” opinions are challenged. It’s funny how those who claim to value open debate are sometimes the very people who are the least tolerant of dissent.


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General U2 Discussion / Re: Why do they keep screwing up the first single???
« Last post by Luzita on December 14, 2017, 06:21:41 PM »
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i think the band actually got the single right this time- or at least didn't blow it.  even the strategy of releasing a few songs way in advance seems to have worked out.  much better than their last marketing strategy of giving it away- which i never thought people would be upset about.

The whole iTunes giveaway debacle always confuses me, because I have a hard time believing anyone would be genuinely upset about receiving a free album they could easily ignore. The only people I can see being pi**ed are people who already hated U2. Sometimes I think the whole issue exists only in a media bubble, where it is kept alive by being repeated every time U2 is mentioned, while most real people don’t care. Then again maybe I don’t appreciate the relationship between younger people and their devices. So I recently asked a couple of teenagers about it. One had never heard of the controversy. The other said he was initially upset because he’s picky about what music he puts on his phone, but then he listened to the album and liked it. Not a scientific survey, to be sure. But I’ve seen other examples online of teenagers who became U2 fans due to tripping over SOI on their phones. And the band’s back catalog got a sales bump after the release. So maybe the impact wasn’t completely negative.


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The Music and Lyrics / Re: When did this forums opinion start changing on NLOTH?
« Last post by Lebowski on December 14, 2017, 06:02:27 PM »
Although I always thought Get On Your Boots and Stand Up Comedy were not good, I liked the album quite a bit when it came out, but I think part of that was the timing, as I had taken an exodus from U2 for quite a few years and No Line... came out right around the time when I was getting back into them in a big way, so the excitement of a new album made it seem better than it was.

Not that I think it is a bad album now or anything, but the sound of it makes it nearly unlistenable (it is too muddy to the point where it sounds like the music is suffocating), and the only songs I really listen to from it anymore are Magnificent and Unknown Caller.
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General U2 Discussion / Re: Why do they keep screwing up the first single???
« Last post by ShankAsu on December 14, 2017, 05:48:03 PM »
i think the band actually got the single right this time- or at least didn't blow it.  even the strategy of releasing a few songs way in advance seems to have worked out.  much better than their last marketing strategy of giving it away- which i never thought people would be upset about.
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News and Rumors / Re: Should U2 re-evaluate their devotion to Aung San Suu Kyi?
« Last post by ShankAsu on December 14, 2017, 05:39:50 PM »
dublin is meaninglessly taking back a meaningless award.
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News and Rumors / Re: "And in the end..." the future of U2
« Last post by ShankAsu on December 14, 2017, 05:38:03 PM »
this is the last album.  until it isn't.
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News and Rumors / Re: "And in the end..." the future of U2
« Last post by wilburn on December 14, 2017, 05:20:37 PM »
Hi Every One , I don’t know if someone of you noticed this strange thing: in love is bigger than anything in its way Bono sings “start singing and stop talking “, while if you look at the back-cover of songs of experience it says:”as you’re walking, STOP SINGING, and START TALKING”.What does that mean?could this  mean soe is their last album (maybe we could read “stop singing” as a return to innocence )?
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