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Title: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: codeguy on December 07, 2012, 01:21:41 PM
There was supposedly a '50-50' chance we would have a new U2 album in 2012. Well, we didn't, despite the fact that they do genuinely appear to have spent a lot of time in the recording studio, and have had various leaks of material being in an advanced stage, from Bono who was confident of a release last year, or Gavin Friday who said the new material was really different, or two leaked audio snippets, or live versions of songs like flowering rose, every breaking wave, north star, stingray guitar, etc., and a reworked Mercy.

So, here is my theory: They have, in their minds, one more decade, one more comeback, before they become a rolling stones-esque  parody of their former selves. So they want it to be perfect. They want it to be another Achtung, Baby moment. In fact, I think they want it to be BETTER. Achtung, Baby is clearly among U2's greatest albums. But they took their reinvented popularity for granted and then released an unfinished album, albiet a great concept album, Zooropa.

This time, I believe they think they can organize a world tour around TWO albums. Album one comes out in 2013, a tour is announced for 2014, and they spend the rest of 2013 preparing for the second album. It makes sense given Bonos comments on having multiple projects in the works, their history of 1-2 album releases (JT/Rattle, Achtung/Zooropa) and the fact that they tried for that, and failed, with NLOTH/Songs of Ascent.

I think we get a 5-star new album in 2013, finally, and a 4-star follow up while the band is on tour in 2014.

That's my guess. I've been wrong before. But I did meet Bono once at a gala in 1984 so I am insider :-)
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: Spilling Over the Brim on December 07, 2012, 02:30:09 PM
I have actually thought at length about this possibility and would like nothing more than for it to become a reality. If pulled off successfully it could do wonders for revitalizing the band's profile - not that they really need it. Seriously though, what are the chances? They are so overly careful now that a two-album-for-one-tour deal just seems so unlikely. Let's pretend for a minute the band is actually considering something along the lines of what you propose. What if that first album isn't received well - or at least not as well as they'd like? Then there's no chance they are going to release that second album without doing some heavy tinkering or going back to the drawing board. With a major tour looming, and people in the U2 camp undoubtedly panicking, they'd most likely just scrap the 2nd album altogether and save some of the songs for future consideration.

I get the sense they are no longer going to try to plan tours with unfinished albums pending. In their minds they got burned doing it that way before, and they'll be much, much(much) more careful since it seems to be their current M.O.(which I think many of us here would agree is unfortunate).

Let me be clear I'm not trying to poke a lot of holes in your prediction since, as I mentioned, I had considered and put some thought into this possibility as well. I really hope they could pull something like this off, but I think we're being a little too unrealistic. There's just too much on their plates these days and they aren't as young as they were in the 80's and 90's. I don't see it happening(unless you've got some inside info????), but believe you me I would love to be proven wrong.

btw, I am totally jealous you got to meet the 1984 Bono.
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: Joe90usa on December 07, 2012, 02:38:37 PM
One word...

Zydeco

Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: codeguy on December 07, 2012, 03:29:47 PM
zydeco????
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: Spilling Over the Brim on December 07, 2012, 03:38:36 PM
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zydeco????


It's Creole. Damn, now I'm hungry for some Cajun. Does anyone know where a starving mofo can get a good po' boy in san francisco?
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: Thunder Peel on December 07, 2012, 07:18:07 PM
This would be awesome, though I'd be very surprised if it happens. It would definitely make up for these past few years of waiting! :)
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: EnduringChill on December 07, 2012, 08:27:46 PM
I was hoping for a double album, with one half being "rock" and one half being "club."

Oh, and maybe each of the four sides could be dominated/written/produced by a different member...
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: Pocket Merlin on December 09, 2012, 04:13:50 AM
I don't think we'll get a double album, but when I think about it, it seems there's a good chance we'll a lot of nice b-sides like in the days of yore rather than just remixes, in order to find some means of releasing all the stuff they've already sort of showed their hand with but haven't given a proper release of ("North Star", "Every Breaking Wave", "Mercy", etc.)
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: smee on December 09, 2012, 10:17:28 AM
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I was hoping for a double album, with one half being "rock" and one half being "club."



Aged 50+, that would be cringeworthy thing to do, for a once great Rock band
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: So Cruel on December 09, 2012, 10:43:21 AM
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I was hoping for a double album, with one half being "rock" and one half being "club."



Aged 50+, that would be cringeworthy thing to do, for a once great Rock band

I agree. Men in their 50's who are rock legends don't need to be making "club" albums.
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: Bonostwin27 on December 09, 2012, 12:26:50 PM
I predict an 11 song album that you can burn into 2 albums with a 5 song album and a 6 song album of your choice. Stone cold lock!
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: Bonostwin27 on December 09, 2012, 12:28:21 PM
Or two 5 song albums and a song you dont like as a b-side.
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: Bonostwin27 on December 09, 2012, 12:30:18 PM
And you can speed it up and drink red bull while at a club with your head phones in.
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: codeguy on December 09, 2012, 03:17:41 PM
I think if there is a club album it will be a limited release edition of the same songs as were on the rock album. And i don't think their club music has been cringe worthy in the past. Club remixes of EBTTRT, Mysterious ways, Vertigo were all good. Only POP was cringe-worthy....and really only discotheque...the rest of pop was quite good
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: codeguy on December 09, 2012, 03:22:25 PM
I tend to think they just have so much material that two main albums becomes likely...maybe 12-18 months apart...
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: EnduringChill on December 09, 2012, 03:30:54 PM
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I was hoping for a double album, with one half being "rock" and one half being "club."



Aged 50+, that would be cringeworthy thing to do, for a once great Rock band

I agree. Men in their 50's who are rock legends don't need to be making "club" albums.
Yeah, it would be awkward, and if the remix of Pride is anything to go by I don't want to hear such things. But they (or at least Bono) have mentioned making that kind of music in the past. So who knows... They'll probably stick with a rock approach, at least I hope so. But a double album would still be cool.
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: OnlyU2 on December 09, 2012, 07:05:28 PM
They were working on 3 album projects even while 360 was still going on.  They were reportedly working with Carl Falk for one of those projects.  Songs of Accent, being that beautiful intimate album, and all their leftover songs from HTDAAB & NLOTH.  I am guessing that these 3 albums will be released one year apart. 
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: codeguy on December 11, 2012, 11:02:41 PM
I think there will be two albums and a club remix limited edition
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: emalvick on December 18, 2012, 02:21:22 PM
Do I feel a de ja vu moment....  All the speculation is what happened with the last album.   We had rumours of multiple albums in the works of a second release during a tour, which even seemed real given the play of new songs on the tour.  Yet, here we are a few years later, and nothing has happened.  If U2 didn't like it a few years ago, I don't hold much confidence that they'll release it now.

All these locked away tracks probably won't see the light of day until the band is done and they need to go through the next big anniversary box set phase to pad their pockets. 

I may be cynical, but I'll be happy with one album of any kind, and I'm really just hoping the Danger Mouse stuff sees the light of day unlike the Rubin stuff of the past that is still tucked away somewhere.
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: Dali on December 29, 2012, 07:33:42 AM
Well, one new album would be fine for the time being.
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: Spilling Over the Brim on January 13, 2013, 02:52:16 AM
Looks like codeguy might be right after all if we are to believe Larry about the future releases -if he was indeed talking about albums.

However I stand by what I posted before. If they do decide to release two albums and the first one isn't received as well as they collectively hoped, then we may see them hold off on the second album or go back to tinkering with it for an extended period of time. I hope that won't be the case. I'd like to see U2 release two albums in close proximity as much as anyone else. Larry's interviews this past week have been some of the best music related news I've heard in a while, and definitely the best in this new year.
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: codeguy on January 13, 2013, 08:53:20 AM
I hate being right all the time, it makes the future far less interesting. 8)

Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: jick on January 13, 2013, 09:33:50 AM
They can release 2 albums right now, which will have 3 songs per album.

Or they can release 2 albums over the next 10 years which is more likely.

It's just a matter of context.  The 2-album prediction is still on the money.

Cheers,

J
Title: Re: Prediction: Two Albums
Post by: U2runnr on January 13, 2013, 03:41:39 PM
If Larry is even thinking about a possible 2 album release that tells us there are more than 6 songs ready, Jick.
Oh wait, yeah I forgot... Larry doesn't realize there are 3 other members anymore. Old age is sure hitting him hard then huh?