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Title: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: 51U2 on May 29, 2017, 05:34:58 PM
Questions about the GA line? Here was my experience. 

This was my early morning, GA line experience in Dallas:
I arrived in Arlington on Thursday night to be ready for the 6am line queuing. I drove to the venue that night to get a good idea of where the line was starting, parking lot entrance, etc - and I saw people camping out. My knowledge was that camping wasn’t allowed at AT&T stadium - so I asked a parking lot security guard and he said it was ok. By this time it’s already around midnight. Wanting to get a some sleep in, I go back to the hotel, and come back around 3:30am and only about 4 more people have shown up. The total seemed to be around 20 people there. I wait it out about 30 more min, and I see people with “lists”— it’s literally a hand-written list in a composition notebook. So I go and ask, “Is there a list already??” and they say, “Yeah! We’ll put you on." They write me down as 350 on their list and write that number on my hand with a sharpie. 

I stood there in shock. 350??! AND - This was the UNOFFICIAL FAN LIST.

So around 5am more people are arriving, and the self-proclaimed "line leaders" start telling people to line up in order based on the number they wrote down on hands. I WAS NOT HAVING IT. I got there before everyone else THAT morning, the day of the show - the day that the venue told me to get there — why should I have to move based on what an “Unofficial” line leader says? Note: These self-proclaimed line leaders are NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE VENUE, THE PROMOTER, SECURITY, OR U2. They are control freaks that think they own the line.

So I tell the line leader, no way am I letting any one in front of me or tell me where to go in line. And he goes on to threaten me, yelling and screaming, etc. saying “bad things will happen to you. You’re going to wish you didn’t do that. We will remove you. We will get you thrown out. If you get in front of me, I will personally sit on you if you are in my spot.”

Honestly - if that guy or any other one of these line freaks had tried to put their hands me I would have called the police.

I STOOD MY GROUND. I did NOT engage any more with anyone in line - no eye contact, no nothing. If VENUE security had a problem with it, I wanted someone OFFICIAL to tell me. Not a fan.

Note: These self-entitled line leaders will do EVERYTHING they can to get you kicked out by official security. Hence the yelling, screaming, crying, threats, etc. This is obviously how fights break out. Just keep your cool.

By 6am, official Venue security got there to direct the line and hand out the OFFICIAL line wristbands. By the time I got to the front, the self-proclamined line leaders were near official security, checking their list against the venue’s numbers. Of course, I wasn’t “in the correct spot.” Here we go again - more screaming, pushing, etc. right in front of official venue security. Another self-proclaimed line leader tried saying I had cut in line, etc. Venue security DID NOT HAVE IT. They asked me what had happened, I calmly said “I got here at 3:30am, before everyone else showed up. I asked who these people were (self-proclaimed line leaders)  and what their list was, and that they told me ‘this is an unofficial line list created by fans.’ (While self-proclaimed line leader was still throwing a hissy fit — he literally sounded like a 3 year old boy crying.) Official venue security rolled his eyes at self-proclaimed line leader, and not wanting to hold the line up any longer, said, “Here is your official wristband.” I happily got my wristband fastened, and went back to my hotel.

At 2pm, when parking lots opened, I went back to the GA line, and got to my official, venue designated place in line. Luckily, no one who had been such a pain earlier that morning said anything around me. By that time, their unofficial list was obsolete and their opinions were obsolete.

I hope this helps anyone wondering about these unofficial lists.

Remember, everyone in these lines has GA tickets — and we all paid the same amount for them, therefore, no one (unless it an official venue, promotor, etc. representative) has the right to remove you because they are numerically ahead of you on the unofficial, fan-created list.

1. Clearly this “list" is started WAY ahead of time (days/weeks) by the self-proclaimed line leaders. Obviously top spots are ensured for self-proclaimed line leaders that way they’re in front of the line, every show. Even if they’re not there early in the morning. It’s a way for them to cut in line ahead of people who have arrived early because their name is on the unofficial list.
2. Only those who know where to find it can sign up for it. So it’s clearly designed to be some sort of self-designated power list.
3. The self-proclaimed line leaders use it as a way to to make sure them and their buddies get the best spots no matter what and that everyone else is behind them.
Sub-note: I totally get that they TRY and run this as way to organize the GA line but when they belittle, badger, threaten, and are 100% belligerent to the people actually following the official venue rules, then they are the ones that are the problem.
4. Why should hundreds of other people be able to get in front of me because they signed an unofficial, fan-created, list days before the show day when they weren’t physically at the venue waiting in line that morning?
5. The more people who stand against the unofficial lists, the sooner they go away, and fans can truly line up on a first come, first severed basis.

Keep in mind: If this was in any way official, the venue or promoter would tell you to go to the little Irish pub in XYZ city, sign up on the composition notebook with the unofficial self proclaimed line leader, sharpie the number on your hands, and then come back that morning and get in line based on that number.

Always listen to official representatives - be respectful - stay calm - and understand that self-proclaimed line leaders do not make the rules or own the line. U2 concerts, and any concert for that matter, should be enjoyable, fun, and safe zones. Unfortunately, these self-proclaimed line leaders, make it extremely difficult, annoying, and even hurtful. They think they are above everyone else, and treat others as if they don’t deserve a good spot in line. If they were truly passionate about a band that is passionate about love and respect, they would embody those characteristics and values as well. They should be ashamed and embarrassed by the way treat others and walk around on their high-horses made of straw.


Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Kmama07 on May 29, 2017, 06:33:38 PM
Sounds about spot on with a few of my past experiences. Opted for seats this time around since my young son will be with me. Don't want the hassle.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Starman on May 29, 2017, 08:04:14 PM
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm worried about how the experience will go at my shows, but part of me just doesn't want to worry about the hassle.

My question is, do these people who put their names on the list actually stay in line ALL DAY? I've heard conflicting reports in the past; usually, 30 minutes breaks are expected for restroom or food breaks, but I've also heard that others will spend HOURS away from the line seeing the city or doing whatever when they should be in line.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: 51U2 on May 29, 2017, 09:38:34 PM
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm worried about how the experience will go at my shows, but part of me just doesn't want to worry about the hassle.

My question is, do these people who put their names on the list actually stay in line ALL DAY? I've heard conflicting reports in the past; usually, 30 minutes breaks are expected for restroom or food breaks, but I've also heard that others will spend HOURS away from the line seeing the city or doing whatever when they should be in line.

Luckily, AT&T stadium made everyone leave the property after we received wristbands, and we weren't allowed back until 2pm. Once we got back at 2pm, we only stayed outside for about 2 hours - and people could go and come as they pleased. Security would just check your wristband when you wanted to come back in line. At about 4pm, credit cards were scanned, and we were all let inside the stadium to wait in line (in the air conditioning). So it wasn't bad. You could also leave the line to go get drinks and go to the bathroom. Props to AT&T stadium -- the process was very well run once the professionals did it. 
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: achtung child on May 29, 2017, 10:05:26 PM
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm worried about how the experience will go at my shows, but part of me just doesn't want to worry about the hassle.

My question is, do these people who put their names on the list actually stay in line ALL DAY? I've heard conflicting reports in the past; usually, 30 minutes breaks are expected for restroom or food breaks, but I've also heard that others will spend HOURS away from the line seeing the city or doing whatever when they should be in line.

Excellent question. No, they do not.  That's the most infuriating thing about it.  If 350 were waiting there all day, I could understand and respect it a bit more. But unfortunately that's not the case.  I will wager a small bet, most of those 350 people were not even in the city and likely showed up just in time for the gates to open.  As I mentioned in another thread, they are pathetic middle-aged trolls on a power trip.  I applaud this poster for standing their ground.  I have GA for Chicago.  I cannot queue all day for this one.  But I will show up earlier, around noon.  If others try to cut in front of me, I'm going to do exactly what this person did.  They need to be taught a lesson in a civilized manner, as tempting as it may be to kick in their overly privileged middle aged troll teeth.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: cocamojoe on May 29, 2017, 10:29:59 PM
I've done the GA 3 times: Atlanta on Vertigo tour and both Belfast and Dublin on the I&E tour. For Atlanta, I was a lot younger, and my friend and I got in line around 10am. We added our names to the unofficial list, and had our number sharpied on our hand. As I recall, we were something like 117 and 118. Here's the thing: his father, a college professor in a town a good hour-ish away from Atlanta, was eventually joining us. I would say that we were adamant that he would join us (with his class schedule, with its being near the end of the semester--the show was in November--he wasn't able to queue early), but no one whom we talked with cared, as it was only one person, and his reasoning for being "late" was more than sound.

For Belfast and Dublin, I never queued. I just showed up a few hours before, and got a great spot for both shows.

However, I am doing GA for Pittsburgh, with three other friends being with me (i.e., the four of us are on the same credit card). I'm taking the day off of work, and I'm encouraging the others to do so (they're all U2 virgins, and have basically dubbed me as their go-to in our group for planning out the day, and where to aim for on the floor, as it'll be my 10th U2 show). There's one problem, though, and its with the one who actually put the tickets on her credit card: she is a widowed, single mother of two boys, both under 10. She isn't earning much money right now, and can't afford to pay a babysitter all day long, just so that she can avoid pi**ing off line nazis. Nor should she be expected to. However, on this very forum, I have been criticized by others for daring to suggest that she should be able to jump in the line wherever me and the other two may be. They are seriously insisting that she either pay an exorbitant amount to a babysitter, or that the other three of us only get in line when she is able to, as she is the one whose credit card will get the four of us in.

Seriously, one guy said, "Yeah, while I can understand her situation, it still isn't right, because if we let this happen, then what's to stop others from lying about it?" Seriously, who is this "we"?!

Don't get me wrong: I'm all for order and structure, but I'm 1,000% opposed to what these unofficial lines have devolved to (again, in Atlanta, 12 years ago, no one protested my friends father jumping in line with us later).
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on May 29, 2017, 10:34:07 PM
I'm really happy for you and glad it worked out.

Unfortunately, you're the first person I've heard this worked out well for. All the venues so far have agreed to the unofficial line rules run by the same people, Nate, Ava, etc. and there were people upset and complaining at the rose bowl, which told all GA holders to not show up before 8 am. I don't know how you managed to get by 349 people but kudos to you. I dream of a world where this unofficial line crap ends.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on May 29, 2017, 10:35:30 PM
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm worried about how the experience will go at my shows, but part of me just doesn't want to worry about the hassle.

My question is, do these people who put their names on the list actually stay in line ALL DAY? I've heard conflicting reports in the past; usually, 30 minutes breaks are expected for restroom or food breaks, but I've also heard that others will spend HOURS away from the line seeing the city or doing whatever when they should be in line.

No they create they list so they DONT wait all day. And they try to keep it secret as much as possible for their own benefit and less work.

At the rose bowl, they met up at a Starbucks about 5 miles away from the venue... not exactly easy to find
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on May 29, 2017, 10:36:52 PM
Unfortunately, I've noticed they also started making lists for RedZone which defeats the whole purpose of the ticket.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Kmama07 on May 30, 2017, 05:19:46 AM
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Unfortunately, I've noticed they also started making lists for RedZone which defeats the whole purpose of the ticket.
So ridiculous
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Bentleyspop on May 30, 2017, 07:14:29 AM
Congratulations on busting  the system.
Unfortunately more people don't  attempt what  you did. Whats  also unfortunate is that U2 management has allowed this B.S. to go on for many years and tours. The same selfish a$$holes have running the scam known as "the unofficial fan run list" for too long and management doesn't seem to care one bit.
It's  well known that Bruce Springsteen management put  and end to the "fan-run" B.S. 15 years ago  and things  have worked fine. He doesn't  see the same people up front night after night after night.
U2 doesn't care that the same people are up front every night.
These people seem to think the are deserving and entitled  to be up front for every show (even though  every show is pretty much the same every night).
And not once have any of them come on here to attempt to defend there actions.
Thanks for stepping up like you did and I hope you  enjoyed the show.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: cocamojoe on May 30, 2017, 08:02:51 AM
I'm on a Facebook group where people sell their spare U2 tickets at face value, and some woman named Diana just posted that she started the queue for Cleveland while in LA for the Rose Bowl shows. I inquired about it (I mostly want to see how much B.S. I can get her to admit to), and her friend then offered to add me to their list, putting me at #3 (I'm not even going to the Cleveland show).
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: JStu on May 30, 2017, 08:40:46 AM
These lists create horrible experiences, and U2 fans are about the worst from what I've seen. It's causing people to opt for seats, and then the band is stuck with the same people up front.  While not perfect, I'm coming around to the Springsteen lottery method for GA.
Title: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Starman on May 30, 2017, 09:47:40 AM
So what happens if I start my own list for my shows?

Cocamo, you and your friends have a spot at the beginning of my Pittsburgh list. ;)
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Kmama07 on May 30, 2017, 09:55:00 AM
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So what happens if I start my own list for my shows?

Cocamo, you and your friends have a spot at the beginning of my Pittsburgh list. ;)
I TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU!!!
That is absolutely brilliant.
Show up with your sharpie and notebook.
Head them of at the pass
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: rlj1010 on May 30, 2017, 10:10:07 AM
I haven't done GA at a U2 show since 2001, on the final night of the Elevation Tour.... I'm just not cut out for all the nonsense aggravation! 

For my several Vertigo arena 2005 shows, I did reserved lower level seats near the stage each time... perfect! 

U2 360 in 2011, I did lower level seats again... but this tour was in a stadium, I felt too far removed from the band, even though i was as closest reserved section to the stage you can get...

So now we're at a stadium again for Joshua Tree 2017...  so this time I'm doing GA, with a twist.... Red zone.    Hoping it goes smoothly.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Starman on May 30, 2017, 10:17:20 AM
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So what happens if I start my own list for my shows?

Cocamo, you and your friends have a spot at the beginning of my Pittsburgh list. ;)
I TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU!!!
That is absolutely brilliant.
Show up with your sharpie and notebook.
Head them of at the pass

Part of me really wants to. A list that puts us locals first. I'm not going to, but it is an idea...
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Mr. Sarajevo 20 on May 30, 2017, 10:51:40 AM
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I'm on a Facebook group where people sell their spare U2 tickets at face value, and some woman named Diana just posted that she started the queue for Cleveland while in LA for the Rose Bowl shows. I inquired about it (I mostly want to see how much B.S. I can get her to admit to), and her friend then offered to add me to their list, putting me at #3 (I'm not even going to the Cleveland show).

We should all join the list even if we aren't going to Cleveland! Just to screw it up a bit!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Pixie1121 on May 30, 2017, 11:51:58 AM
I just don't understand this whole line BS. I went to 360 in Pittsburgh got there at 11AM and someone eventually came and numbered us we were somewhere around 350. We had great spots inside the circle 1 back from the rail. I was ignorant to the "List" back then.

I went to I&E in NYC and arrived the day before the show. I went to the venue the night we arrived and saw people sitting in chairs at the door. I engaged them in conversation asked if they were already waiting for the show the next night and asked if they had any suggestions about how early I should arrive in the morning. At no time did they mention a list or offer to put me on one. I got there at 830 the next morning and the guy at the head of line (who was not there the night before) numbered my and my BF 91 and 92. There were far LESS than 90 people standing in line.

We took our spot at the end of the line, sat down and never moved for the next 10 hours. We would switch off for food or pee breaks or to just take a walk (Funny story, I went down to Macy's to burn some time and got lost inside Macy's). All this time I would wander up to the front of the line occasionally and never saw the people from the night before. About an hour before the doors opened they finally strolled up and took there spot in the front of the line.

This tour I'm doing 4 shows in GA. Pitt, Philly, NJ and Cleveland. Our hotel in Pitt is only a mile or so from the stadium, so I think that will be the one I try to find if there is a list if the stadium doesn't announce any sort of procedure for GA. 
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: aarond on May 30, 2017, 02:27:48 PM
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I'm on a Facebook group where people sell their spare U2 tickets at face value, and some woman named Diana just posted that she started the queue for Cleveland while in LA for the Rose Bowl shows. I inquired about it (I mostly want to see how much B.S. I can get her to admit to), and her friend then offered to add me to their list, putting me at #3 (I'm not even going to the Cleveland show).

We should all join the list even if we aren't going to Cleveland! Just to screw it up a bit!

That's so frustrating. I'm taking my 10 year old and she loved the queue part last tour. We showed up midday, the line was decent length so we got numbers and waited all day to end up 1 back from the E stage. Just irks me that people can be in line without being in line. I get taking breaks to eat, etc. But getting "in line" before you're in the state is clearly ludicrous. The venues should announce a time to line up and not honor these lists.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Saint1322 on May 30, 2017, 02:31:27 PM
I've done GA twice -- Lexington, KY on Elevation and Boston for I+E, and I have never seen this before.

For Elevation, we got there at about noon and were about 150 or so in line, and I believe they took about 350 for the heart. I remember very early on venue officials coming out and saying 'What can we do to make this run smoothly?' because I think there had been a couple of bad incidents earlier in that tour. We told them to issue wristbands as soon as possible and put up barricades if they had them to keep people from bum-rushing the line. They did both things.

We stayed in place all afternoon, using the buddy system to go get food, use the restroom, etc. At about 5:30, they started letting us in, and a few people thought they were going to use the 'pretty girls can do what they want card' but they hit the wall when they had no wristbands to show. The system worked great.

For I+E, we just showed up at 5:30 and got in line, and received a wristband and then were scanned in. There were barriers in place there as well.

I'm really not sure who these folks with the list think they are, but I would be sure to tell them.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: cocamojoe on May 30, 2017, 02:36:22 PM
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So what happens if I start my own list for my shows?

Cocamo, you and your friends have a spot at the beginning of my Pittsburgh list. ;)
I TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU!!!
That is absolutely brilliant.
Show up with your sharpie and notebook.
Head them of at the pass
Dude, let's f****** do it!!!!!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: cocamojoe on May 30, 2017, 02:37:23 PM
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So what happens if I start my own list for my shows?

Cocamo, you and your friends have a spot at the beginning of my Pittsburgh list. ;)
I TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU!!!
That is absolutely brilliant.
Show up with your sharpie and notebook.
Head them of at the pass

Part of me really wants to. A list that puts us locals first. I'm not going to, but it is an idea...
I'll totally do this with you, if you're game.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: cocamojoe on May 30, 2017, 02:41:27 PM
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I'm on a Facebook group where people sell their spare U2 tickets at face value, and some woman named Diana just posted that she started the queue for Cleveland while in LA for the Rose Bowl shows. I inquired about it (I mostly want to see how much B.S. I can get her to admit to), and her friend then offered to add me to their list, putting me at #3 (I'm not even going to the Cleveland show).

We should all join the list even if we aren't going to Cleveland! Just to screw it up a bit!
I prodded them on, and it turns out that they were joking, and they hate these unofficial lines with at least as much passion as we do.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: EdgeFest [Zenmaster360] on May 30, 2017, 02:46:57 PM
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U2 doesn't care that the same people are up front every night.

Not only do they not care, they fly them to Paris to come up on stage with them for a DVD.  Not everyone was a line-up freak in that show, but most of them were.  I refuse to buy it on that principle.  Tired of fan contests, and that was the saddest one of them all...

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I'm on a Facebook group where people sell their spare U2 tickets at face value, and some woman named Diana just posted that she started the queue for Cleveland while in LA for the Rose Bowl shows. I inquired about it (I mostly want to see how much B.S. I can get her to admit to), and her friend then offered to add me to their list, putting me at #3 (I'm not even going to the Cleveland show).

What's your name?  I am going to Cleveland and can swing by and see if you're still #3 - LOL.  J/K, this is ridiculous.  I'll be hanging out with my friends having fun, not being a tyrant.  Absolutely shameful.  People that physically can't go to a U2 concert unless they are front and centre have some real issues. 
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Saint1322 on May 30, 2017, 02:54:03 PM
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U2 doesn't care that the same people are up front every night.

Not only do they not care, they fly them to Paris to come up on stage with them for a DVD.  Not everyone was a line-up freak in that show, but most of them were.  I refuse to buy it on that principle.  Tired of fan contests, and that was the saddest one of them all...

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I'm on a Facebook group where people sell their spare U2 tickets at face value, and some woman named Diana just posted that she started the queue for Cleveland while in LA for the Rose Bowl shows. I inquired about it (I mostly want to see how much B.S. I can get her to admit to), and her friend then offered to add me to their list, putting me at #3 (I'm not even going to the Cleveland show).

What's your name?  I am going to Cleveland and can swing by and see if you're still #3 - LOL.  J/K, this is ridiculous.  I'll be hanging out with my friends having fun, not being a tyrant.  Absolutely shameful.  People that physically can't go to a U2 concert unless they are front and centre have some real issues. 

I am having a difficult time understanding how people are getting away with this. If I am in line, and someone comes up to me with a clipboard and a sharpie and tells me I am behind everyone on this list, I am going to tell them nicely they are incorrect. If they persist, I am going to suggest they do something I can't say here and go find security or someone with the venue.

Am I missing something? Why are y'all putting up with this crap?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: aarond on May 30, 2017, 03:09:21 PM
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U2 doesn't care that the same people are up front every night.

Not only do they not care, they fly them to Paris to come up on stage with them for a DVD.  Not everyone was a line-up freak in that show, but most of them were.  I refuse to buy it on that principle.  Tired of fan contests, and that was the saddest one of them all...

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I'm on a Facebook group where people sell their spare U2 tickets at face value, and some woman named Diana just posted that she started the queue for Cleveland while in LA for the Rose Bowl shows. I inquired about it (I mostly want to see how much B.S. I can get her to admit to), and her friend then offered to add me to their list, putting me at #3 (I'm not even going to the Cleveland show).

What's your name?  I am going to Cleveland and can swing by and see if you're still #3 - LOL.  J/K, this is ridiculous.  I'll be hanging out with my friends having fun, not being a tyrant.  Absolutely shameful.  People that physically can't go to a U2 concert unless they are front and centre have some real issues. 

I am having a difficult time understanding how people are getting away with this. If I am in line, and someone comes up to me with a clipboard and a sharpie and tells me I am behind everyone on this list, I am going to tell them nicely they are incorrect. If they persist, I am going to suggest they do something I can't say here and go find security or someone with the venue.

Am I missing something? Why are y'all putting up with this crap?

If they are true line enforcers, they should stay until the queue is empty right? Spot 500 is just as valid as number 1 right?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: briscoetheque on May 30, 2017, 03:20:49 PM
I rocked up the night before vertigo in Melbourne just to check out the line situation. I was #9.

I wasn't going to camp out for the night. I have a house.

So I went home.

When I came back in the morning at 8am they would have let me back in line at #9. That wasn't fair, I'd left!

So just got a new nunber and went to the back. Queueing actually means waiting in line to me...

That said, in Paris on I&E, I adopted 'when in rome' and nicked off for breakfast and lunch... There was literally a handful of people in line until midday, yet numbering was into the 500s
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: EdgeFest [Zenmaster360] on May 30, 2017, 03:44:48 PM
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I am having a difficult time understanding how people are getting away with this. If I am in line, and someone comes up to me with a clipboard and a sharpie and tells me I am behind everyone on this list, I am going to tell them nicely they are incorrect. If they persist, I am going to suggest they do something I can't say here and go find security or someone with the venue.

Am I missing something? Why are y'all putting up with this crap?

If we had a few hundred 51U2s (OP) that would probably be a start.  But as you can see in that original post, these people are manipulative sxxtbags and will do everything in their power to make you back off.   I would LOVE to see 500 people like OP!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: cocamojoe on May 30, 2017, 04:14:58 PM
I'm still 100% serious about making a mock list for the Pittsburgh show, since I'll be doing GA there (I do live in Pittsburgh, but am also going to Chicago 2, but in the seats).
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: barbiemom4 on May 30, 2017, 06:50:14 PM
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Questions about the GA line? Here was my experience. 

This was my early morning, GA line experience in Dallas:
I arrived in Arlington on Thursday night to be ready for the 6am line queuing. I drove to the venue that night to get a good idea of where the line was starting, parking lot entrance, etc - and I saw people camping out. My knowledge was that camping wasn’t allowed at AT&T stadium - so I asked a parking lot security guard and he said it was ok. By this time it’s already around midnight. Wanting to get a some sleep in, I go back to the hotel, and come back around 3:30am and only about 4 more people have shown up. The total seemed to be around 20 people there. I wait it out about 30 more min, and I see people with “lists”— it’s literally a hand-written list in a composition notebook. So I go and ask, “Is there a list already??” and they say, “Yeah! We’ll put you on." They write me down as 350 on their list and write that number on my hand with a sharpie. 

I stood there in shock. 350??! AND - This was the UNOFFICIAL FAN LIST.

So around 5am more people are arriving, and the self-proclaimed "line leaders" start telling people to line up in order based on the number they wrote down on hands. I WAS NOT HAVING IT. I got there before everyone else THAT morning, the day of the show - the day that the venue told me to get there — why should I have to move based on what an “Unofficial” line leader says? Note: These self-proclaimed line leaders are NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE VENUE, THE PROMOTER, SECURITY, OR U2. They are control freaks that think they own the line.

So I tell the line leader, no way am I letting any one in front of me or tell me where to go in line. And he goes on to threaten me, yelling and screaming, etc. saying “bad things will happen to you. You’re going to wish you didn’t do that. We will remove you. We will get you thrown out. If you get in front of me, I will personally sit on you if you are in my spot.”

Honestly - if that guy or any other one of these line freaks had tried to put their hands me I would have called the police.

I STOOD MY GROUND. I did NOT engage any more with anyone in line - no eye contact, no nothing. If VENUE security had a problem with it, I wanted someone OFFICIAL to tell me. Not a fan.

Note: These self-entitled line leaders will do EVERYTHING they can to get you kicked out by official security. Hence the yelling, screaming, crying, threats, etc. This is obviously how fights break out. Just keep your cool.

By 6am, official Venue security got there to direct the line and hand out the OFFICIAL line wristbands. By the time I got to the front, the self-proclamined line leaders were near official security, checking their list against the venue’s numbers. Of course, I wasn’t “in the correct spot.” Here we go again - more screaming, pushing, etc. right in front of official venue security. Another self-proclaimed line leader tried saying I had cut in line, etc. Venue security DID NOT HAVE IT. They asked me what had happened, I calmly said “I got here at 3:30am, before everyone else showed up. I asked who these people were (self-proclaimed line leaders)  and what their list was, and that they told me ‘this is an unofficial line list created by fans.’ (While self-proclaimed line leader was still throwing a hissy fit — he literally sounded like a 3 year old boy crying.) Official venue security rolled his eyes at self-proclaimed line leader, and not wanting to hold the line up any longer, said, “Here is your official wristband.” I happily got my wristband fastened, and went back to my hotel.

At 2pm, when parking lots opened, I went back to the GA line, and got to my official, venue designated place in line. Luckily, no one who had been such a pain earlier that morning said anything around me. By that time, their unofficial list was obsolete and their opinions were obsolete.

I hope this helps anyone wondering about these unofficial lists.

Remember, everyone in these lines has GA tickets — and we all paid the same amount for them, therefore, no one (unless it an official venue, promotor, etc. representative) has the right to remove you because they are numerically ahead of you on the unofficial, fan-created list.

1. Clearly this “list" is started WAY ahead of time (days/weeks) by the self-proclaimed line leaders. Obviously top spots are ensured for self-proclaimed line leaders that way they’re in front of the line, every show. Even if they’re not there early in the morning. It’s a way for them to cut in line ahead of people who have arrived early because their name is on the unofficial list.
2. Only those who know where to find it can sign up for it. So it’s clearly designed to be some sort of self-designated power list.
3. The self-proclaimed line leaders use it as a way to to make sure them and their buddies get the best spots no matter what and that everyone else is behind them.
Sub-note: I totally get that they TRY and run this as way to organize the GA line but when they belittle, badger, threaten, and are 100% belligerent to the people actually following the official venue rules, then they are the ones that are the problem.
4. Why should hundreds of other people be able to get in front of me because they signed an unofficial, fan-created, list days before the show day when they weren’t physically at the venue waiting in line that morning?
5. The more people who stand against the unofficial lists, the sooner they go away, and fans can truly line up on a first come, first severed basis.

Keep in mind: If this was in any way official, the venue or promoter would tell you to go to the little Irish pub in XYZ city, sign up on the composition notebook with the unofficial self proclaimed line leader, sharpie the number on your hands, and then come back that morning and get in line based on that number.

Always listen to official representatives - be respectful - stay calm - and understand that self-proclaimed line leaders do not make the rules or own the line. U2 concerts, and any concert for that matter, should be enjoyable, fun, and safe zones. Unfortunately, these self-proclaimed line leaders, make it extremely difficult, annoying, and even hurtful. They think they are above everyone else, and treat others as if they don’t deserve a good spot in line. If they were truly passionate about a band that is passionate about love and respect, they would embody those characteristics and values as well. They should be ashamed and embarrassed by the way treat others and walk around on their high-horses made of straw.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on May 30, 2017, 06:57:42 PM
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I'm still 100% serious about making a mock list for the Pittsburgh show, since I'll be doing GA there (I do live in Pittsburgh, but am also going to Chicago 2, but in the seats).

Why not try to make a real line and tell people they have to stay until showtime? That would be real interesting. Just like they did in 1987
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Ultravioletem on May 30, 2017, 07:39:32 PM
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I'm on a Facebook group where people sell their spare U2 tickets at face value, and some woman named Diana just posted that she started the queue for Cleveland while in LA for the Rose Bowl shows. I inquired about it (I mostly want to see how much B.S. I can get her to admit to), and her friend then offered to add me to their list, putting me at #3 (I'm not even going to the Cleveland show).

We should all join the list even if we aren't going to Cleveland! Just to screw it up a bit!
I prodded them on, and it turns out that they were joking, and they hate these unofficial lines with at least as much passion as we do.

I forget that sarcasm doesn't always translate over the internet. 😂 Diana and I are very much anti-list and have been pretty vocal about our displeasure in different groups over the past two tours. I've been blocked by many list keepers solely for my opinions. The nonsense that has gone on has turned me off of queuing completely. I'm content to just have a soundboard dance party in Foxboro and Cleveland. :)
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: trojanchick99 on May 30, 2017, 07:41:34 PM
51U2 you are my hero! Well done.


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I'm on a Facebook group where people sell their spare U2 tickets at face value, and some woman named Diana just posted that she started the queue for Cleveland while in LA for the Rose Bowl shows. I inquired about it (I mostly want to see how much B.S. I can get her to admit to), and her friend then offered to add me to their list, putting me at #3 (I'm not even going to the Cleveland show).

Hey, I'm Diana and yes that was 100% a joke. I'm rather vocal about hating the list system, and have actually been blocked by some of the list folks. I'm quite proud of that.

I will be at Cleveland, but will not queue hope to see some of you lovely people there.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Starman on May 30, 2017, 08:06:08 PM
Here's the thing that I don't get though. It seems like these people travel to almost every show on a tour.

Don't they have jobs?

Also, wonder if they caused issues on 360 during the Australian, South African and South American shows.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: cocamojoe on May 30, 2017, 11:18:47 PM
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51U2 you are my hero! Well done.


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I'm on a Facebook group where people sell their spare U2 tickets at face value, and some woman named Diana just posted that she started the queue for Cleveland while in LA for the Rose Bowl shows. I inquired about it (I mostly want to see how much B.S. I can get her to admit to), and her friend then offered to add me to their list, putting me at #3 (I'm not even going to the Cleveland show).

Hey, I'm Diana and yes that was 100% a joke. I'm rather vocal about hating the list system, and have actually been blocked by some of the list folks. I'm quite proud of that.

I will be at Cleveland, but will not queue hope to see some of you lovely people there.

Hahaha, I seriously wish that we were going to one of the same shows now, as I love a good sense of humor! I'm going to Chicago 2 and Pittsburgh. If I can find a Cleveland ticket that's either face value or if the Stubhub et al prices come down, then I may take the train or bus over (I live in Pittsburgh, only 2 hours away).
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on May 30, 2017, 11:32:55 PM
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51U2 you are my hero! Well done.


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I'm on a Facebook group where people sell their spare U2 tickets at face value, and some woman named Diana just posted that she started the queue for Cleveland while in LA for the Rose Bowl shows. I inquired about it (I mostly want to see how much B.S. I can get her to admit to), and her friend then offered to add me to their list, putting me at #3 (I'm not even going to the Cleveland show).

Hey, I'm Diana and yes that was 100% a joke. I'm rather vocal about hating the list system, and have actually been blocked by some of the list folks. I'm quite proud of that.

I will be at Cleveland, but will not queue hope to see some of you lovely people there.

They shouldn't have the right to block you if the venue uses their list
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on May 31, 2017, 01:21:49 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/NateU2/status/869795824829640704

They're starting Chicago soon
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: aarond on May 31, 2017, 01:51:05 PM
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https://mobile.twitter.com/NateU2/status/869795824829640704

They're starting Chicago soon

Don't know if he intended it (ok, surely yes), but that tweet seems like a cry for importance. But I suppose most tweets are.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: afg on May 31, 2017, 07:09:59 PM
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https://mobile.twitter.com/NateU2/status/869795824829640704

They're starting Chicago soon

Don't know if he intended it (ok, surely yes), but that tweet seems like a cry for importance. But I suppose most tweets are.

Yup - https://mobile.twitter.com/NateU2/status/867117111339999232
If I was going to that Chicago show I would be the first one to that gate and the sharpie line leaders and their followers would be lining up behind me and everyone else that arrived early that morning.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on May 31, 2017, 11:21:32 PM
Starting a list for in Wednesday for a concert on Saturday only makes it that much harder for people who actually live in that state. Let alone, the stupid check in which really have no purpose other than kicking as many people off as they can. Doing check in's does not make your list any more of a line.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: macky0104 on June 01, 2017, 03:57:30 AM
Interesting thread as I've never come across this in the UK or Europe. Is this just an American thing?

Is this also the reason why U2 had a lottery system for entry into the "heart" on the Vertigo tour?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: joeyanne on June 01, 2017, 05:05:30 AM
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Interesting thread as I've never come across this in the UK or Europe. Is this just an American thing?

Is this also the reason why U2 had a lottery system for entry into the "heart" on the Vertigo tour?

It's definitely a thing in the UK. However, I've never seen it start before the morning of the show and everyone stays in line except for breaks for food etc. It's very helpful having the number system as it stops people pushing in line (if i recall correctly the leaders of another forum tried to get their mates into the queue without a number at the O2 for ie and failed miserably). I've never seen this whole line nazi thing though. They slot it at whatever position they are at quite happily.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Quack on June 01, 2017, 05:55:52 AM
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Questions about the GA line? Here was my experience. 

Well done. That list B.S. has got to go and everyone involved with it can f*** off.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Quack on June 01, 2017, 06:01:46 AM
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It's  well known that Bruce Springsteen management put  and end to the "fan-run" B.S. 15 years ago

Not really. I saw Springsteen 5 years ago and there were list nazis there as well. People showed up in the morning and put their name down then went sightseeing for 6 hours before going back to the stadium and going to the front of the line. Lovely stuff.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Saint1322 on June 01, 2017, 09:07:30 AM
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It's  well known that Bruce Springsteen management put  and end to the "fan-run" B.S. 15 years ago

Not really. I saw Springsteen 5 years ago and there were list nazis there as well. People showed up in the morning and put their name down then went sightseeing for 6 hours before going back to the stadium and going to the front of the line. Lovely stuff.

How did they manage that when Bruce uses the lottery system?

I actually wouldn't have any problem with this at all, provided it is an OFFICIAL LIST and people are logged and registered when they actually show up. I see no need to for people to stand outside all day. Just issue wristbands with numbers on them and say 'start lining up at 5 and we'll see you then'. As long as everyone knows the rules, why not do it that way?

A little different situation, but I just attended Star Wars Celebration in April, and I have never spent so much time standing in line in my life. Why not just assign numbers and call people when it is their turn?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: bonou2suz on June 02, 2017, 05:12:31 AM
I'm getting to Soldier Field tomorrow around noon (so not that early because I don't feel the need to sit in Bono's lap for the show like these line "leaders"), and you better believe if anyone thinks they have the right to cut in front of me because some entitled loser without a life wrote a number on their hand with a sharpie, I won't stand for that. Not happening.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Kmama07 on June 02, 2017, 05:14:41 AM
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I'm getting to Soldier Field tomorrow around noon (so not that early because I don't feel the need to sit in Bono's lap for the show like these line "leaders"), and you better believe if anyone thinks they have the right to cut in front of me because some entitled loser without a life wrote a number on their hand with a sharpie, I won't stand for that. Not happening.
✌️ Enjoy the show!!'
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: bonou2suz on June 02, 2017, 06:14:53 AM
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I'm getting to Soldier Field tomorrow around noon (so not that early because I don't feel the need to sit in Bono's lap for the show like these line "leaders"), and you better believe if anyone thinks they have the right to cut in front of me because some entitled loser without a life wrote a number on their hand with a sharpie, I won't stand for that. Not happening.
✌️ Enjoy the show!!'


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Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: mcnabb5 on June 02, 2017, 08:35:31 AM
Starman/Cocamojoe......I don't know what time you're getting to Heinz Field, but if you are showing up a Tuesday afternoon, let me know. I have done GA several times. I personally have no issue with people signing the book AT the venue. If you physically show up and are present during the whole process, awesome. We did it for I.E. MSG #1 and that queue was great. I ended up being 31st in line. But this bs of having these self-appointed queue organizers have they and their  friends "sign up" days in advance, or on FB, is total rubbish. I haven't encountered this yet and I hope we don't deal with it here in Pittsburgh. Someone needs to tell that woman who started the Cleveland queue that is not going to fly.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: mcnabb5 on June 02, 2017, 08:40:07 AM
My apologies to Diana! I missed the posts where you acknowledged it was total sarcasm!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: mcnabb5 on June 02, 2017, 08:42:55 AM
To trojanchick99.....I will be at the Cleveland show as well. I certainly hope we can definitely have a good experience there. I will also be at the Pittsburgh show this coming week and I will gladly pass on my experience there.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: mattbel123 on June 02, 2017, 12:39:22 PM
I live in Pittsburgh and I don't remember any numbering or list for 360. I got in line around 2pm and waited and had a great spot when I entered. I was a few rows back from Adam. I'm doing GA this time around but I'm not even going to worry about getting a decent spot. I don't want to all the way in the back but I figured to just get in line when doors open.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: achtung jeff on June 02, 2017, 02:04:48 PM
Calm down everybody.
You get what you give.  I've done GA every tour since elevation. It's all good. Show up, be nice to ppl, sign the list ,get you number and chill on the lawn or sidewalk. Make friends with ppl around you, play cards, tell stories....I've camped all night (in the snow in St. Louis),  arrived before sunrise tons of times, been rained on.  I'm just a working dad who likes to play like a teenager for a day.  This stage is so big, you can get a great spot if you're #1 or #501.
If you go in with an attitude or play Lone Ranger, you're just picking a fight with people who are there for a good time. Yes, I've seen some entitled A-holes but 99.9% of the GA ppl are cool. Also, that .1% tend to get the karma as your newfound line neighbors stand strong and shame them from the line.
I'll be in CHI1 at soldier field. Come say hi. Look for the 8'tall gold Joshua tree and a very happy pretend teenager.



Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: mcnabb5 on June 02, 2017, 02:31:22 PM
I like your style, Jeff. I enjoy the GA experience. Plan on doing so with family and friends this week. I've met some great people during my time in the GA queue.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: bonou2suz on June 02, 2017, 02:34:20 PM
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Calm down everybody.
You get what you give.  I've done GA every tour since elevation. It's all good. Show up, be nice to ppl, sign the list ,get you number and chill on the lawn or sidewalk. Make friends with ppl around you, play cards, tell stories....I've camped all night (in the snow in St. Louis),  arrived before sunrise tons of times, been rained on.  I'm just a working dad who likes to play like a teenager for a day.  This stage is so big, you can get a great spot if you're #1 or #501.
If you go in with an attitude or play Lone Ranger, you're just picking a fight with people who are there for a good time. Yes, I've seen some entitled A-holes but 99.9% of the GA ppl are cool. Also, that .1% tend to get the karma as your newfound line neighbors stand strong and shame them from the line.
I'll be in CHI1 at soldier field. Come say hi. Look for the 8'tall gold Joshua tree and a very happy pretend teenager.
You're not wrong. I've always had fun in the line, we're all amped up and ready to go. It's just annoying when you've been there since 8a and a bunch of people come up mid-day and take their spot in front of you, you know?

Anyway, gonna take a deep breath and not worry about it. I need room to dance anyway, and I'm not getting that on the rail! Keeping my eyes peeled for your JT!


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Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Starman on June 02, 2017, 06:15:40 PM
GA is definitely a unique experience and waiting in line is a one of a kind experience. We've gone over the disadvantages, but generally, it's a good time and the best way to experience a U2 show (I've done seats twice and it just isn't the same).
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on June 02, 2017, 07:17:49 PM
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Calm down everybody.
You get what you give.  I've done GA every tour since elevation. It's all good. Show up, be nice to ppl, sign the list ,get you number and chill on the lawn or sidewalk. Make friends with ppl around you, play cards, tell stories....I've camped all night (in the snow in St. Louis),  arrived before sunrise tons of times, been rained on.  I'm just a working dad who likes to play like a teenager for a day.  This stage is so big, you can get a great spot if you're #1 or #501.
If you go in with an attitude or play Lone Ranger, you're just picking a fight with people who are there for a good time. Yes, I've seen some entitled A-holes but 99.9% of the GA ppl are cool. Also, that .1% tend to get the karma as your newfound line neighbors stand strong and shame them from the line.
I'll be in CHI1 at soldier field. Come say hi. Look for the 8'tall gold Joshua tree and a very happy pretend teenager.

You're dismissing the point. Get in line and have a time is the goal. But the list has destroyed that. Especially when people are self assigning themselves and their friends the first 20 numbers and they go to EVERY show. The stage railing is not that abundant this tour...
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: trevgreg on June 03, 2017, 06:08:06 AM
Just saw a couple go by what security told them to do, like the original poster did, get the ninth degree from a few of those when they joined the Chicago queue towards the front.

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Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: MyhusbandlikesU2 on June 03, 2017, 09:09:57 AM
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Questions about the GA line? Here was my experience. 

This was my early morning, GA line experience in Dallas:
I arrived in Arlington on Thursday night to be ready for the 6am line queuing. I drove to the venue that night to get a good idea of where the line was starting, parking lot entrance, etc - and I saw people camping out. My knowledge was that camping wasn’t allowed at AT&T stadium - so I asked a parking lot security guard and he said it was ok. By this time it’s already around midnight. Wanting to get a some sleep in, I go back to the hotel, and come back around 3:30am and only about 4 more people have shown up. The total seemed to be around 20 people there. I wait it out about 30 more min, and I see people with “lists”— it’s literally a hand-written list in a composition notebook. So I go and ask, “Is there a list already??” and they say, “Yeah! We’ll put you on." They write me down as 350 on their list and write that number on my hand with a sharpie. 

I stood there in shock. 350??! AND - This was the UNOFFICIAL FAN LIST.

So around 5am more people are arriving, and the self-proclaimed "line leaders" start telling people to line up in order based on the number they wrote down on hands. I WAS NOT HAVING IT. I got there before everyone else THAT morning, the day of the show - the day that the venue told me to get there — why should I have to move based on what an “Unofficial” line leader says? Note: These self-proclaimed line leaders are NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE VENUE, THE PROMOTER, SECURITY, OR U2. They are control freaks that think they own the line.

So I tell the line leader, no way am I letting any one in front of me or tell me where to go in line. And he goes on to threaten me, yelling and screaming, etc. saying “bad things will happen to you. You’re going to wish you didn’t do that. We will remove you. We will get you thrown out. If you get in front of me, I will personally sit on you if you are in my spot.”

Honestly - if that guy or any other one of these line freaks had tried to put their hands me I would have called the police.

I STOOD MY GROUND. I did NOT engage any more with anyone in line - no eye contact, no nothing. If VENUE security had a problem with it, I wanted someone OFFICIAL to tell me. Not a fan.

Note: These self-entitled line leaders will do EVERYTHING they can to get you kicked out by official security. Hence the yelling, screaming, crying, threats, etc. This is obviously how fights break out. Just keep your cool.

By 6am, official Venue security got there to direct the line and hand out the OFFICIAL line wristbands. By the time I got to the front, the self-proclamined line leaders were near official security, checking their list against the venue’s numbers. Of course, I wasn’t “in the correct spot.” Here we go again - more screaming, pushing, etc. right in front of official venue security. Another self-proclaimed line leader tried saying I had cut in line, etc. Venue security DID NOT HAVE IT. They asked me what had happened, I calmly said “I got here at 3:30am, before everyone else showed up. I asked who these people were (self-proclaimed line leaders)  and what their list was, and that they told me ‘this is an unofficial line list created by fans.’ (While self-proclaimed line leader was still throwing a hissy fit — he literally sounded like a 3 year old boy crying.) Official venue security rolled his eyes at self-proclaimed line leader, and not wanting to hold the line up any longer, said, “Here is your official wristband.” I happily got my wristband fastened, and went back to my hotel.

At 2pm, when parking lots opened, I went back to the GA line, and got to my official, venue designated place in line. Luckily, no one who had been such a pain earlier that morning said anything around me. By that time, their unofficial list was obsolete and their opinions were obsolete.

I hope this helps anyone wondering about these unofficial lists.

Remember, everyone in these lines has GA tickets — and we all paid the same amount for them, therefore, no one (unless it an official venue, promotor, etc. representative) has the right to remove you because they are numerically ahead of you on the unofficial, fan-created list.

1. Clearly this “list" is started WAY ahead of time (days/weeks) by the self-proclaimed line leaders. Obviously top spots are ensured for self-proclaimed line leaders that way they’re in front of the line, every show. Even if they’re not there early in the morning. It’s a way for them to cut in line ahead of people who have arrived early because their name is on the unofficial list.
2. Only those who know where to find it can sign up for it. So it’s clearly designed to be some sort of self-designated power list.
3. The self-proclaimed line leaders use it as a way to to make sure them and their buddies get the best spots no matter what and that everyone else is behind them.
Sub-note: I totally get that they TRY and run this as way to organize the GA line but when they belittle, badger, threaten, and are 100% belligerent to the people actually following the official venue rules, then they are the ones that are the problem.
4. Why should hundreds of other people be able to get in front of me because they signed an unofficial, fan-created, list days before the show day when they weren’t physically at the venue waiting in line that morning?
5. The more people who stand against the unofficial lists, the sooner they go away, and fans can truly line up on a first come, first severed basis.

Keep in mind: If this was in any way official, the venue or promoter would tell you to go to the little Irish pub in XYZ city, sign up on the composition notebook with the unofficial self proclaimed line leader, sharpie the number on your hands, and then come back that morning and get in line based on that number.

Always listen to official representatives - be respectful - stay calm - and understand that self-proclaimed line leaders do not make the rules or own the line. U2 concerts, and any concert for that matter, should be enjoyable, fun, and safe zones. Unfortunately, these self-proclaimed line leaders, make it extremely difficult, annoying, and even hurtful. They think they are above everyone else, and treat others as if they don’t deserve a good spot in line. If they were truly passionate about a band that is passionate about love and respect, they would embody those characteristics and values as well. They should be ashamed and embarrassed by the way treat others and walk around on their high-horses made of straw.


U251, my husband and I were right there with ya! I'm sorry that they were so rude to your sisters. I am very glad we all held our ACTUAL spot in line. I read the U2 Joshua Tree Tour Dallas Facebook page and they were specifically calling out your girlfriend and her pink umbrella...we were pretty thankful for that pink umbrella when she shared it, LOL! Thanks again for your comradery.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on June 03, 2017, 12:48:51 PM
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Just saw a couple go by what security told them to do, like the original poster did, get the ninth degree from a few of those when they joined the Chicago queue towards the front.

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Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Starman on June 03, 2017, 01:37:28 PM
I found this Billy Joel interview on Reddit and he talks about how at each of his shows, the seats in the first couple of rows are reserved for upgrades from the nosebleeds. He got tired of seeing rich people in the front row of all of his shows, so this is his way of getting real fans to the front.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/5893751/billy-joel-exclusive-backstage-cover-story-interview-qa-madison-square-garden

Obviously U2 hasn't had floor seats in years, but it would be nice if they could do something similar.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on June 03, 2017, 01:40:10 PM
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I found this Billy Joel interview on Reddit and he talks about how at each of his shows, the seats in the first couple of rows are reserved for upgrades from the nosebleeds. He got tired of seeing rich people in the front row of all of his shows, so this is his way of getting real fans to the front.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/5893751/billy-joel-exclusive-backstage-cover-story-interview-qa-madison-square-garden

Obviously U2 hasn't had floor seats in years, but it would be nice if they could do something similar.

Yes and no, people pay for GA to have the chance to be upfront. If they're going to do that, then u2 should go back to seats on the floor. I noticed they are upgrading people to redzone though for tonight's show
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: afg on June 03, 2017, 04:35:07 PM
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I found this Billy Joel interview on Reddit and he talks about how at each of his shows, the seats in the first couple of rows are reserved for upgrades from the nosebleeds. He got tired of seeing rich people in the front row of all of his shows, so this is his way of getting real fans to the front.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/5893751/billy-joel-exclusive-backstage-cover-story-interview-qa-madison-square-garden

Obviously U2 hasn't had floor seats in years, but it would be nice if they could do something similar.

Yes and no, people pay for GA to have the chance to be upfront. If they're going to do that, then u2 should go back to seats on the floor. I noticed they are upgrading people to redzone though for tonight's show

Really? Where did you hear that?  Is it random?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on June 03, 2017, 05:27:40 PM
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I found this Billy Joel interview on Reddit and he talks about how at each of his shows, the seats in the first couple of rows are reserved for upgrades from the nosebleeds. He got tired of seeing rich people in the front row of all of his shows, so this is his way of getting real fans to the front.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/5893751/billy-joel-exclusive-backstage-cover-story-interview-qa-madison-square-garden

Obviously U2 hasn't had floor seats in years, but it would be nice if they could do something similar.

Yes and no, people pay for GA to have the chance to be upfront. If they're going to do that, then u2 should go back to seats on the floor. I noticed they are upgrading people to redzone though for tonight's show

Really? Where did you hear that?  Is it random?

They tweeted it on the official u2 account. All you had to do was tweet them a picture of your ticket
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Texjes on June 04, 2017, 04:32:48 PM
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Questions about the GA line? Here was my experience. 

This was my early morning, GA line experience in Dallas:
I arrived in Arlington on Thursday night to be ready for the 6am line queuing. I drove to the venue that night to get a good idea of where the line was starting, parking lot entrance, etc - and I saw people camping out. My knowledge was that camping wasn’t allowed at AT&T stadium - so I asked a parking lot security guard and he said it was ok. By this time it’s already around midnight. Wanting to get a some sleep in, I go back to the hotel, and come back around 3:30am and only about 4 more people have shown up. The total seemed to be around 20 people there. I wait it out about 30 more min, and I see people with “lists”— it’s literally a hand-written list in a composition notebook. So I go and ask, “Is there a list already??” and they say, “Yeah! We’ll put you on." They write me down as 350 on their list and write that number on my hand with a sharpie. 

I stood there in shock. 350??! AND - This was the UNOFFICIAL FAN LIST.

So around 5am more people are arriving, and the self-proclaimed "line leaders" start telling people to line up in order based on the number they wrote down on hands. I WAS NOT HAVING IT. I got there before everyone else THAT morning, the day of the show - the day that the venue told me to get there — why should I have to move based on what an “Unofficial” line leader says? Note: These self-proclaimed line leaders are NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE VENUE, THE PROMOTER, SECURITY, OR U2. They are control freaks that think they own the line.

So I tell the line leader, no way am I letting any one in front of me or tell me where to go in line. And he goes on to threaten me, yelling and screaming, etc. saying “bad things will happen to you. You’re going to wish you didn’t do that. We will remove you. We will get you thrown out. If you get in front of me, I will personally sit on you if you are in my spot.”

Honestly - if that guy or any other one of these line freaks had tried to put their hands me I would have called the police.

I STOOD MY GROUND. I did NOT engage any more with anyone in line - no eye contact, no nothing. If VENUE security had a problem with it, I wanted someone OFFICIAL to tell me. Not a fan.

Note: These self-entitled line leaders will do EVERYTHING they can to get you kicked out by official security. Hence the yelling, screaming, crying, threats, etc. This is obviously how fights break out. Just keep your cool.

By 6am, official Venue security got there to direct the line and hand out the OFFICIAL line wristbands. By the time I got to the front, the self-proclamined line leaders were near official security, checking their list against the venue’s numbers. Of course, I wasn’t “in the correct spot.” Here we go again - more screaming, pushing, etc. right in front of official venue security. Another self-proclaimed line leader tried saying I had cut in line, etc. Venue security DID NOT HAVE IT. They asked me what had happened, I calmly said “I got here at 3:30am, before everyone else showed up. I asked who these people were (self-proclaimed line leaders)  and what their list was, and that they told me ‘this is an unofficial line list created by fans.’ (While self-proclaimed line leader was still throwing a hissy fit — he literally sounded like a 3 year old boy crying.) Official venue security rolled his eyes at self-proclaimed line leader, and not wanting to hold the line up any longer, said, “Here is your official wristband.” I happily got my wristband fastened, and went back to my hotel.

At 2pm, when parking lots opened, I went back to the GA line, and got to my official, venue designated place in line. Luckily, no one who had been such a pain earlier that morning said anything around me. By that time, their unofficial list was obsolete and their opinions were obsolete.

I hope this helps anyone wondering about these unofficial lists.

Remember, everyone in these lines has GA tickets — and we all paid the same amount for them, therefore, no one (unless it an official venue, promotor, etc. representative) has the right to remove you because they are numerically ahead of you on the unofficial, fan-created list.

1. Clearly this “list" is started WAY ahead of time (days/weeks) by the self-proclaimed line leaders. Obviously top spots are ensured for self-proclaimed line leaders that way they’re in front of the line, every show. Even if they’re not there early in the morning. It’s a way for them to cut in line ahead of people who have arrived early because their name is on the unofficial list.
2. Only those who know where to find it can sign up for it. So it’s clearly designed to be some sort of self-designated power list.
3. The self-proclaimed line leaders use it as a way to to make sure them and their buddies get the best spots no matter what and that everyone else is behind them.
Sub-note: I totally get that they TRY and run this as way to organize the GA line but when they belittle, badger, threaten, and are 100% belligerent to the people actually following the official venue rules, then they are the ones that are the problem.
4. Why should hundreds of other people be able to get in front of me because they signed an unofficial, fan-created, list days before the show day when they weren’t physically at the venue waiting in line that morning?
5. The more people who stand against the unofficial lists, the sooner they go away, and fans can truly line up on a first come, first severed basis.

Keep in mind: If this was in any way official, the venue or promoter would tell you to go to the little Irish pub in XYZ city, sign up on the composition notebook with the unofficial self proclaimed line leader, sharpie the number on your hands, and then come back that morning and get in line based on that number.

Always listen to official representatives - be respectful - stay calm - and understand that self-proclaimed line leaders do not make the rules or own the line. U2 concerts, and any concert for that matter, should be enjoyable, fun, and safe zones. Unfortunately, these self-proclaimed line leaders, make it extremely difficult, annoying, and even hurtful. They think they are above everyone else, and treat others as if they don’t deserve a good spot in line. If they were truly passionate about a band that is passionate about love and respect, they would embody those characteristics and values as well. They should be ashamed and embarrassed by the way treat others and walk around on their high-horses made of straw.
Good for you!!! We had issues with the Sharpie people in Houston. I was enjoying a nice afternoon at the hotel pool when we heard they were lining people up already. We go over there to get a number and were told by the French guy that we could not have a number until our entire party arrived. I asked the guy why? Just write down their names. I'm representing them. They have to come in with me because the tickets are on my card. He said no and claimed it was because of the "integrity". When I pointed out the fact that this isn't an official line he got all huffy. One lady told us if they came later and cut in line there would be a riot. b**** please. What idiot riots at a U2 concert? We ended up lying to them, told them we transferred the tickets to another card. Got our numbers and were told to come back at 5am. When one of us could not come back that early because of work, we bought a Sharpie from the Walgreens down the street and asked a hotel worker to show up as a decoy. When the rest of our party showed up they got numbers about 10 people down from us but ended up waiting in line with us anyway and we all had spots in the front row. Integrity my ass. Those people have zero integrity, they create the problem they claim they are trying to solve so they can take advantage for their own benefit. I'm glad you revolted, Spread the word so more people will rebel. They ruined our hotel pool time. f*** those guys.


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Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on June 04, 2017, 05:09:14 PM
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Questions about the GA line? Here was my experience. 

This was my early morning, GA line experience in Dallas:
I arrived in Arlington on Thursday night to be ready for the 6am line queuing. I drove to the venue that night to get a good idea of where the line was starting, parking lot entrance, etc - and I saw people camping out. My knowledge was that camping wasn’t allowed at AT&T stadium - so I asked a parking lot security guard and he said it was ok. By this time it’s already around midnight. Wanting to get a some sleep in, I go back to the hotel, and come back around 3:30am and only about 4 more people have shown up. The total seemed to be around 20 people there. I wait it out about 30 more min, and I see people with “lists”— it’s literally a hand-written list in a composition notebook. So I go and ask, “Is there a list already??” and they say, “Yeah! We’ll put you on." They write me down as 350 on their list and write that number on my hand with a sharpie. 

I stood there in shock. 350??! AND - This was the UNOFFICIAL FAN LIST.

So around 5am more people are arriving, and the self-proclaimed "line leaders" start telling people to line up in order based on the number they wrote down on hands. I WAS NOT HAVING IT. I got there before everyone else THAT morning, the day of the show - the day that the venue told me to get there — why should I have to move based on what an “Unofficial” line leader says? Note: These self-proclaimed line leaders are NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE VENUE, THE PROMOTER, SECURITY, OR U2. They are control freaks that think they own the line.

So I tell the line leader, no way am I letting any one in front of me or tell me where to go in line. And he goes on to threaten me, yelling and screaming, etc. saying “bad things will happen to you. You’re going to wish you didn’t do that. We will remove you. We will get you thrown out. If you get in front of me, I will personally sit on you if you are in my spot.”

Honestly - if that guy or any other one of these line freaks had tried to put their hands me I would have called the police.

I STOOD MY GROUND. I did NOT engage any more with anyone in line - no eye contact, no nothing. If VENUE security had a problem with it, I wanted someone OFFICIAL to tell me. Not a fan.

Note: These self-entitled line leaders will do EVERYTHING they can to get you kicked out by official security. Hence the yelling, screaming, crying, threats, etc. This is obviously how fights break out. Just keep your cool.

By 6am, official Venue security got there to direct the line and hand out the OFFICIAL line wristbands. By the time I got to the front, the self-proclamined line leaders were near official security, checking their list against the venue’s numbers. Of course, I wasn’t “in the correct spot.” Here we go again - more screaming, pushing, etc. right in front of official venue security. Another self-proclaimed line leader tried saying I had cut in line, etc. Venue security DID NOT HAVE IT. They asked me what had happened, I calmly said “I got here at 3:30am, before everyone else showed up. I asked who these people were (self-proclaimed line leaders)  and what their list was, and that they told me ‘this is an unofficial line list created by fans.’ (While self-proclaimed line leader was still throwing a hissy fit — he literally sounded like a 3 year old boy crying.) Official venue security rolled his eyes at self-proclaimed line leader, and not wanting to hold the line up any longer, said, “Here is your official wristband.” I happily got my wristband fastened, and went back to my hotel.

At 2pm, when parking lots opened, I went back to the GA line, and got to my official, venue designated place in line. Luckily, no one who had been such a pain earlier that morning said anything around me. By that time, their unofficial list was obsolete and their opinions were obsolete.

I hope this helps anyone wondering about these unofficial lists.

Remember, everyone in these lines has GA tickets — and we all paid the same amount for them, therefore, no one (unless it an official venue, promotor, etc. representative) has the right to remove you because they are numerically ahead of you on the unofficial, fan-created list.

1. Clearly this “list" is started WAY ahead of time (days/weeks) by the self-proclaimed line leaders. Obviously top spots are ensured for self-proclaimed line leaders that way they’re in front of the line, every show. Even if they’re not there early in the morning. It’s a way for them to cut in line ahead of people who have arrived early because their name is on the unofficial list.
2. Only those who know where to find it can sign up for it. So it’s clearly designed to be some sort of self-designated power list.
3. The self-proclaimed line leaders use it as a way to to make sure them and their buddies get the best spots no matter what and that everyone else is behind them.
Sub-note: I totally get that they TRY and run this as way to organize the GA line but when they belittle, badger, threaten, and are 100% belligerent to the people actually following the official venue rules, then they are the ones that are the problem.
4. Why should hundreds of other people be able to get in front of me because they signed an unofficial, fan-created, list days before the show day when they weren’t physically at the venue waiting in line that morning?
5. The more people who stand against the unofficial lists, the sooner they go away, and fans can truly line up on a first come, first severed basis.

Keep in mind: If this was in any way official, the venue or promoter would tell you to go to the little Irish pub in XYZ city, sign up on the composition notebook with the unofficial self proclaimed line leader, sharpie the number on your hands, and then come back that morning and get in line based on that number.

Always listen to official representatives - be respectful - stay calm - and understand that self-proclaimed line leaders do not make the rules or own the line. U2 concerts, and any concert for that matter, should be enjoyable, fun, and safe zones. Unfortunately, these self-proclaimed line leaders, make it extremely difficult, annoying, and even hurtful. They think they are above everyone else, and treat others as if they don’t deserve a good spot in line. If they were truly passionate about a band that is passionate about love and respect, they would embody those characteristics and values as well. They should be ashamed and embarrassed by the way treat others and walk around on their high-horses made of straw.
Good for you!!! We had issues with the Sharpie people in Houston. I was enjoying a nice afternoon at the hotel pool when we heard they were lining people up already. We go over there to get a number and were told by the French guy that we could not have a number until our entire party arrived. I asked the guy why? Just write down their names. I'm representing them. They have to come in with me because the tickets are on my card. He said no and claimed it was because of the "integrity". When I pointed out the fact that this isn't an official line he got all huffy. One lady told us if they came later and cut in line there would be a riot. b**** please. What idiot riots at a U2 concert? We ended up lying to them, told them we transferred the tickets to another card. Got our numbers and were told to come back at 5am. When one of us could not come back that early because of work, we bought a Sharpie from the Walgreens down the street and asked a hotel worker to show up as a decoy. When the rest of our party showed up they got numbers about 10 people down from us but ended up waiting in line with us anyway and we all had spots in the front row. Integrity my ass. Those people have zero integrity, they create the problem they claim they are trying to solve so they can take advantage for their own benefit. I'm glad you revolted, Spread the word so more people will rebel. They ruined our hotel pool time. f*** those guys.


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Wait, you brought a hotel worker??? LOL!!!!! Same thing happened to me in Los Angeles, some people in my party were parking and the guy was us a hard time about giving numbers. Rude comments from them.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: dwaltman on June 04, 2017, 08:18:49 PM
Just saw that Arcade Fire is selling "VIP Early Access GA Tickets" in a fan presale option. General public sale is a week later.   This is an interesting way to maximize the market for rail space around the stage.  It forces those willing to pay for early entry in GA to show up earlier than everyone else in GA and gets more money out of them.   This might also reduce the number of fans that could afford to pay that amount for a large number of shows.  I also wonder how many tickets they would limit for early entry.  I think if you pay the $360CA ticket price, there is a reasonable expectation of close proximity to the stage.

Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Texjes on June 04, 2017, 08:29:34 PM
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Questions about the GA line? Here was my experience. 

This was my early morning, GA line experience in Dallas:
I arrived in Arlington on Thursday night to be ready for the 6am line queuing. I drove to the venue that night to get a good idea of where the line was starting, parking lot entrance, etc - and I saw people camping out. My knowledge was that camping wasn’t allowed at AT&T stadium - so I asked a parking lot security guard and he said it was ok. By this time it’s already around midnight. Wanting to get a some sleep in, I go back to the hotel, and come back around 3:30am and only about 4 more people have shown up. The total seemed to be around 20 people there. I wait it out about 30 more min, and I see people with “lists”— it’s literally a hand-written list in a composition notebook. So I go and ask, “Is there a list already??” and they say, “Yeah! We’ll put you on." They write me down as 350 on their list and write that number on my hand with a sharpie. 

I stood there in shock. 350??! AND - This was the UNOFFICIAL FAN LIST.

So around 5am more people are arriving, and the self-proclaimed "line leaders" start telling people to line up in order based on the number they wrote down on hands. I WAS NOT HAVING IT. I got there before everyone else THAT morning, the day of the show - the day that the venue told me to get there — why should I have to move based on what an “Unofficial” line leader says? Note: These self-proclaimed line leaders are NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE VENUE, THE PROMOTER, SECURITY, OR U2. They are control freaks that think they own the line.

So I tell the line leader, no way am I letting any one in front of me or tell me where to go in line. And he goes on to threaten me, yelling and screaming, etc. saying “bad things will happen to you. You’re going to wish you didn’t do that. We will remove you. We will get you thrown out. If you get in front of me, I will personally sit on you if you are in my spot.”

Honestly - if that guy or any other one of these line freaks had tried to put their hands me I would have called the police.

I STOOD MY GROUND. I did NOT engage any more with anyone in line - no eye contact, no nothing. If VENUE security had a problem with it, I wanted someone OFFICIAL to tell me. Not a fan.

Note: These self-entitled line leaders will do EVERYTHING they can to get you kicked out by official security. Hence the yelling, screaming, crying, threats, etc. This is obviously how fights break out. Just keep your cool.

By 6am, official Venue security got there to direct the line and hand out the OFFICIAL line wristbands. By the time I got to the front, the self-proclamined line leaders were near official security, checking their list against the venue’s numbers. Of course, I wasn’t “in the correct spot.” Here we go again - more screaming, pushing, etc. right in front of official venue security. Another self-proclaimed line leader tried saying I had cut in line, etc. Venue security DID NOT HAVE IT. They asked me what had happened, I calmly said “I got here at 3:30am, before everyone else showed up. I asked who these people were (self-proclaimed line leaders)  and what their list was, and that they told me ‘this is an unofficial line list created by fans.’ (While self-proclaimed line leader was still throwing a hissy fit — he literally sounded like a 3 year old boy crying.) Official venue security rolled his eyes at self-proclaimed line leader, and not wanting to hold the line up any longer, said, “Here is your official wristband.” I happily got my wristband fastened, and went back to my hotel.

At 2pm, when parking lots opened, I went back to the GA line, and got to my official, venue designated place in line. Luckily, no one who had been such a pain earlier that morning said anything around me. By that time, their unofficial list was obsolete and their opinions were obsolete.

I hope this helps anyone wondering about these unofficial lists.

Remember, everyone in these lines has GA tickets — and we all paid the same amount for them, therefore, no one (unless it an official venue, promotor, etc. representative) has the right to remove you because they are numerically ahead of you on the unofficial, fan-created list.

1. Clearly this “list" is started WAY ahead of time (days/weeks) by the self-proclaimed line leaders. Obviously top spots are ensured for self-proclaimed line leaders that way they’re in front of the line, every show. Even if they’re not there early in the morning. It’s a way for them to cut in line ahead of people who have arrived early because their name is on the unofficial list.
2. Only those who know where to find it can sign up for it. So it’s clearly designed to be some sort of self-designated power list.
3. The self-proclaimed line leaders use it as a way to to make sure them and their buddies get the best spots no matter what and that everyone else is behind them.
Sub-note: I totally get that they TRY and run this as way to organize the GA line but when they belittle, badger, threaten, and are 100% belligerent to the people actually following the official venue rules, then they are the ones that are the problem.
4. Why should hundreds of other people be able to get in front of me because they signed an unofficial, fan-created, list days before the show day when they weren’t physically at the venue waiting in line that morning?
5. The more people who stand against the unofficial lists, the sooner they go away, and fans can truly line up on a first come, first severed basis.

Keep in mind: If this was in any way official, the venue or promoter would tell you to go to the little Irish pub in XYZ city, sign up on the composition notebook with the unofficial self proclaimed line leader, sharpie the number on your hands, and then come back that morning and get in line based on that number.

Always listen to official representatives - be respectful - stay calm - and understand that self-proclaimed line leaders do not make the rules or own the line. U2 concerts, and any concert for that matter, should be enjoyable, fun, and safe zones. Unfortunately, these self-proclaimed line leaders, make it extremely difficult, annoying, and even hurtful. They think they are above everyone else, and treat others as if they don’t deserve a good spot in line. If they were truly passionate about a band that is passionate about love and respect, they would embody those characteristics and values as well. They should be ashamed and embarrassed by the way treat others and walk around on their high-horses made of straw.
Good for you!!! We had issues with the Sharpie people in Houston. I was enjoying a nice afternoon at the hotel pool when we heard they were lining people up already. We go over there to get a number and were told by the French guy that we could not have a number until our entire party arrived. I asked the guy why? Just write down their names. I'm representing them. They have to come in with me because the tickets are on my card. He said no and claimed it was because of the "integrity". When I pointed out the fact that this isn't an official line he got all huffy. One lady told us if they came later and cut in line there would be a riot. b**** please. What idiot riots at a U2 concert? We ended up lying to them, told them we transferred the tickets to another card. Got our numbers and were told to come back at 5am. When one of us could not come back that early because of work, we bought a Sharpie from the Walgreens down the street and asked a hotel worker to show up as a decoy. When the rest of our party showed up they got numbers about 10 people down from us but ended up waiting in line with us anyway and we all had spots in the front row. Integrity my ass. Those people have zero integrity, they create the problem they claim they are trying to solve so they can take advantage for their own benefit. I'm glad you revolted, Spread the word so more people will rebel. They ruined our hotel pool time. f*** those guys.


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Wait, you brought a hotel worker??? LOL!!!!! Same thing happened to me in Los Angeles, some people in my party were parking and the guy was us a hard time about giving numbers. Rude comments from them.
Oh yes we did. And it totally worked. The people in line didn't even care. We all purchased the tickets the same way, everyone knew the score. It's totally appropriate to allow line holds in that situation. People seriously need to chill out, the first 500-1000 people on the floor are going to have a great spot no matter what. There's no need for overnights lines and unofficial lists. 


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Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: weinerdog on June 04, 2017, 09:08:00 PM
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Just saw that Arcade Fire is selling "VIP Early Access GA Tickets" in a fan presale option. General public sale is a week later.   This is an interesting way to maximize the market for rail space around the stage.  It forces those willing to pay for early entry in GA to show up earlier than everyone else in GA and gets more money out of them.   This might also reduce the number of fans that could afford to pay that amount for a large number of shows.  I also wonder how many tickets they would limit for early entry.  I think if you pay the $360CA ticket price, there is a reasonable expectation of close proximity to the stage.

I love Arcade Fire, but dropping that kind of $ for early access is throwing away cash. Even if you are at the back of the floor on either end, you might be what, 50 feet from the side of the stage closest to you? I have seen a fair number of AF fans complaining about GA tix being over $100 after fees, so I wouldn't bet on some of these VIP packages flying off the shelf.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Allhorizonbomb on June 04, 2017, 09:12:24 PM
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm worried about how the experience will go at my shows, but part of me just doesn't want to worry about the hassle.

My question is, do these people who put their names on the list actually stay in line ALL DAY? I've heard conflicting reports in the past; usually, 30 minutes breaks are expected for restroom or food breaks, but I've also heard that others will spend HOURS away from the line seeing the city or doing whatever when they should be in line.

Luckily, AT&T stadium made everyone leave the property after we received wristbands, and we weren't allowed back until 2pm. Once we got back at 2pm, we only stayed outside for about 2 hours - and people could go and come as they pleased. Security would just check your wristband when you wanted to come back in line. At about 4pm, credit cards were scanned, and we were all let inside the stadium to wait in line (in the air conditioning). So it wasn't bad. You could also leave the line to go get drinks and go to the bathroom. Props to AT&T stadium -- the process was very well run once the professionals did it.

How did you know to show up at 6am for the official wristbands.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: tigerfan41 on June 04, 2017, 09:48:51 PM
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm worried about how the experience will go at my shows, but part of me just doesn't want to worry about the hassle.

My question is, do these people who put their names on the list actually stay in line ALL DAY? I've heard conflicting reports in the past; usually, 30 minutes breaks are expected for restroom or food breaks, but I've also heard that others will spend HOURS away from the line seeing the city or doing whatever when they should be in line.

Luckily, AT&T stadium made everyone leave the property after we received wristbands, and we weren't allowed back until 2pm. Once we got back at 2pm, we only stayed outside for about 2 hours - and people could go and come as they pleased. Security would just check your wristband when you wanted to come back in line. At about 4pm, credit cards were scanned, and we were all let inside the stadium to wait in line (in the air conditioning). So it wasn't bad. You could also leave the line to go get drinks and go to the bathroom. Props to AT&T stadium -- the process was very well run once the professionals did it.

How did you know to show up at 6am for the official wristbands.

Each concert has a Facebook group, for instance U2 Joshua Tree Tour 2017 Chicago. I'd recommend joining your concert's group since people post things like lineup times, info from the venue etc. on there. If you're coming to the Pittsburgh concert, there's a Facebook group for it.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: JStu on June 04, 2017, 10:11:31 PM
Believe it or not everyone isn't on Facebook. Why don't we just follow the rules of the venue, not some group of self appointed fans? Why do I have to know when somone else's check in times?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on June 04, 2017, 10:39:16 PM
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Believe it or not everyone isn't on Facebook. Why don't we just follow the rules of the venue, not some group of self appointed fans? Why do I have to know when somone else's check in times?

I saw a chat on twitter where the facebook group admins were declining certain people who they didn't like from joining the group
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: tigerfan41 on June 04, 2017, 11:13:38 PM
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Believe it or not everyone isn't on Facebook. Why don't we just follow the rules of the venue, not some group of self appointed fans? Why do I have to know when somone else's check in times?

I saw a chat on twitter where the facebook group admins were declining certain people who they didn't like from joining the group

I have no affiliation with anyone who runs the lines, nor do I necessarily condone it. I think the idea of having a fan run line is a nice one, but it is as flawed as the people who run it--that is to say, it started out as a nice idea but may have evolved into something that's not so nice.

All that to say, there's strength in numbers and apparently a good number of people run the lines and agree with them, so I'll be playing by their rules. So long as things seem fair, I'm not going to complain. Just there to enjoy the show.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: 51U2 on June 05, 2017, 12:44:19 PM
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm worried about how the experience will go at my shows, but part of me just doesn't want to worry about the hassle.

My question is, do these people who put their names on the list actually stay in line ALL DAY? I've heard conflicting reports in the past; usually, 30 minutes breaks are expected for restroom or food breaks, but I've also heard that others will spend HOURS away from the line seeing the city or doing whatever when they should be in line.

Luckily, AT&T stadium made everyone leave the property after we received wristbands, and we weren't allowed back until 2pm. Once we got back at 2pm, we only stayed outside for about 2 hours - and people could go and come as they pleased. Security would just check your wristband when you wanted to come back in line. At about 4pm, credit cards were scanned, and we were all let inside the stadium to wait in line (in the air conditioning). So it wasn't bad. You could also leave the line to go get drinks and go to the bathroom. Props to AT&T stadium -- the process was very well run once the professionals did it.

How did you know to show up at 6am for the official wristbands.

I had initially called the venue about a week beforehand to ask about the early lining GA process. The operator on the phone told me that they were giving out official wristbands at 6am the day of the show. I also received an official email (that went out to everyone who purchased tickets on TicketMaster) that contained the information about 6am wristbands and parking information. This email was sent about a day or two beforehand. All info about the 6am process was official -- I would suggest calling the venue you're going to, and finding out how they're handling!

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Starman on June 05, 2017, 01:17:24 PM
Looks like the Pittsburgh list has started.

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At least the people in charge are making the list somewhat apparent though Facebook and Periscope, but still, that's hardly "official."
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: afg on June 05, 2017, 06:50:42 PM
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm worried about how the experience will go at my shows, but part of me just doesn't want to worry about the hassle.

My question is, do these people who put their names on the list actually stay in line ALL DAY? I've heard conflicting reports in the past; usually, 30 minutes breaks are expected for restroom or food breaks, but I've also heard that others will spend HOURS away from the line seeing the city or doing whatever when they should be in line.

Luckily, AT&T stadium made everyone leave the property after we received wristbands, and we weren't allowed back until 2pm. Once we got back at 2pm, we only stayed outside for about 2 hours - and people could go and come as they pleased. Security would just check your wristband when you wanted to come back in line. At about 4pm, credit cards were scanned, and we were all let inside the stadium to wait in line (in the air conditioning). So it wasn't bad. You could also leave the line to go get drinks and go to the bathroom. Props to AT&T stadium -- the process was very well run once the professionals did it.

How did you know to show up at 6am for the official wristbands.

I had initially called the venue about a week beforehand to ask about the early lining GA process. The operator on the phone told me that they were giving out official wristbands at 6am the day of the show. I also received an official email (that went out to everyone who purchased tickets on TicketMaster) that contained the information about 6am wristbands and parking information. This email was sent about a day or two beforehand. All info about the 6am process was official -- I would suggest calling the venue you're going to, and finding out how they're handling!

Hope this helps!

So there you go.  No need for any offsite unofficial line lists.  They are pointless.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on June 05, 2017, 06:52:49 PM
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm worried about how the experience will go at my shows, but part of me just doesn't want to worry about the hassle.

My question is, do these people who put their names on the list actually stay in line ALL DAY? I've heard conflicting reports in the past; usually, 30 minutes breaks are expected for restroom or food breaks, but I've also heard that others will spend HOURS away from the line seeing the city or doing whatever when they should be in line.

Luckily, AT&T stadium made everyone leave the property after we received wristbands, and we weren't allowed back until 2pm. Once we got back at 2pm, we only stayed outside for about 2 hours - and people could go and come as they pleased. Security would just check your wristband when you wanted to come back in line. At about 4pm, credit cards were scanned, and we were all let inside the stadium to wait in line (in the air conditioning). So it wasn't bad. You could also leave the line to go get drinks and go to the bathroom. Props to AT&T stadium -- the process was very well run once the professionals did it.

How did you know to show up at 6am for the official wristbands.

I had initially called the venue about a week beforehand to ask about the early lining GA process. The operator on the phone told me that they were giving out official wristbands at 6am the day of the show. I also received an official email (that went out to everyone who purchased tickets on TicketMaster) that contained the information about 6am wristbands and parking information. This email was sent about a day or two beforehand. All info about the 6am process was official -- I would suggest calling the venue you're going to, and finding out how they're handling!

Hope this helps!

So there you go.  No need for any offsite unofficial line lists.  They are pointless.

Wristbands according to the list numbers? Or just whoever showed up first?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Allhorizonbomb on June 05, 2017, 08:22:56 PM
I have to agree. I tried to look into the unofficial line for Pittsburg only to find that they have check ins two days before the actual concert on a Wednesday. For people that have jobs that they cannot miss, showing up two days early is just ridiculous, and it really shows how much they rig the system for themselves. I thought the U2 community would be better than this, but even if your there at 6am on the day of the show your out of luck because you didn't go to the early checks ins.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: trevgreg on June 05, 2017, 08:25:29 PM
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Just saw a couple go by what security told them to do, like the original poster did, get the ninth degree from a few of those when they joined the Chicago queue towards the front.

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Sorry for the delay! Honestly, it was sort of like the original post situation for the most part. I talked to the guy later to apologize to him on behalf of the people in front of the line and for those that gave him and his girlfriend a hard time about doing what security said. He told me that they showed up around 4:30 that morning and talked to security, who told them nobody would be getting wristbanded until 6 am and to show up at the pre-designated spot, when needed. When they showed up, our line was already going down and they just sort of joined in once they converged with us. I don't think most people gave them a hard time, but two or three in particular began accusing them of trying to "budge" ahead, how they had signed up on Thursday for the list, etc. The guy also wasn't familiar with the unofficial lists (obviously), and after they were still hearing it from a few people once we all sat down, they eventually stood up and moved about 10 people back, then moved to the back of the line a short time later.

Luckily, he didn't seem too bummed about it by the time I talked to him. And I think I saw him and his girlfriend with a decent spot later on the field, so it all worked out ultimately, I guess. Still... goes to show that there's still drama to these things and how they operate.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: World71R on June 06, 2017, 07:38:29 PM
After reading this thread and thinking very hard about getting GA tickets on Monday for the Minneapolis show, what are some things you would recommend to a first-time U2 concertgoer? I'm super excited about it, and I'll probably be going with someone to it, but I'd love to have some pointers in mind going into the concert.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: threechords on June 06, 2017, 07:40:08 PM
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I have to agree. I tried to look into the unofficial line for Pittsburg only to find that they have check ins two days before the actual concert on a Wednesday. For people that have jobs that they cannot miss, showing up two days early is just ridiculous, and it really shows how much they rig the system for themselves. I thought the U2 community would be better than this, but even if your there at 6am on the day of the show your out of luck because you didn't go to the early checks ins.

Now the venue controls things, not some line nazi.  Do what the OP does.  Stand up to the dictator crap and follow the rules.  The venue makes the rules.  if you show up at 6am u r whatever human r in line.  The line starts when the venue starts giving them out.  Why is this so hard?  This has been bad for a long time, and the control freaks have just worn people down, just like the government. The sheeple at the airports and whatever else.  I will be doing Detroit, I can't wait to see how the venue goes.  I love to butt heads with people who have no case.  It's fun.  The OP did it and it was fine.  If everyone did it it would be great.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: trevgreg on June 06, 2017, 08:21:49 PM
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After reading this thread and thinking very hard about getting GA tickets on Monday for the Minneapolis show, what are some things you would recommend to a first-time U2 concertgoer? I'm super excited about it, and I'll probably be going with someone to it, but I'd love to have some pointers in mind going into the concert.

I would get them anyway as their really worth the price of admission and it'll probably be a good time regardless, but what would you need to know exactly? What location is best? What time to get in line for a certain spot? How to stay hydrated during the day? Clarify and we'll be happy to help. ;)
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: World71R on June 06, 2017, 08:54:16 PM
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After reading this thread and thinking very hard about getting GA tickets on Monday for the Minneapolis show, what are some things you would recommend to a first-time U2 concertgoer? I'm super excited about it, and I'll probably be going with someone to it, but I'd love to have some pointers in mind going into the concert.

I would get them anyway as their really worth the price of admission and it'll probably be a good time regardless, but what would you need to know exactly? What location is best? What time to get in line for a certain spot? How to stay hydrated during the day? Clarify and we'll be happy to help. ;)

Sorry! Pointers on any of those would work. :D I read through this thread and was reading about the lines, getting a number, and what time to be there so I was curious as to when the right time would be to get there in order to get a good spot on the floor. I'll be driving in from about an hour away so I don't want to get there too early, but not too late either.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on June 06, 2017, 09:57:45 PM
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I have to agree. I tried to look into the unofficial line for Pittsburg only to find that they have check ins two days before the actual concert on a Wednesday. For people that have jobs that they cannot miss, showing up two days early is just ridiculous, and it really shows how much they rig the system for themselves. I thought the U2 community would be better than this, but even if your there at 6am on the day of the show your out of luck because you didn't go to the early checks ins.

Now the venue controls things, not some line nazi.  Do what the OP does.  Stand up to the dictator crap and follow the rules.  The venue makes the rules.  if you show up at 6am u r whatever human r in line.  The line starts when the venue starts giving them out.  Why is this so hard?  This has been bad for a long time, and the control freaks have just worn people down, just like the government. The sheeple at the airports and whatever else.  I will be doing Detroit, I can't wait to see how the venue goes.  I love to butt heads with people who have no case.  It's fun.  The OP did it and it was fine.  If everyone did it it would be great.

It's hard because the venue takes after the line leader who tells the venue what rules to enforce.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: afg on June 07, 2017, 06:56:53 AM
So has anyone else arrived at the venue on show day ahead of the "offsite line" and held your ground, not letting them cut you in line?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: miaveni on June 07, 2017, 09:18:43 AM
My First GA, I've always done seats...and have had AMAZING experiences.   Great stuff!!!   Didn't know how crazy GA was...We shall see how this night pans out.   Looking forward to seeing "Yinz" there.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: threechords on June 07, 2017, 09:49:51 AM
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So has anyone else arrived at the venue on show day ahead of the "offsite line" and held your ground, not letting them cut you in line?

I already told my wife I am inspired by the OP and we will be showing up 6amish at Detroit get a official wristband and going back to sleep at hotel lol.  We won't give a care about someone's list. 

The irony is the people with the fake list are the cutters, but of course will label the people that show up early as the cutters.  We will line up in Detroit and see how it goes.

We showed up at 6:04am in Boston during Vertigo in 2005.  The venue was there already and we were 10-11 on the official list.  I saw no one at that show pushing an "un-official" list. I have seen U2 49 times now.  I really have only seen it on Elevation shows in Chicago.  Show up 9am.  Be like 100 human in line and get 200 since there were names of folks sleeping at the hotel as u wait all day.  That's how it started to me, all the multiple Elevation shows.  The control freaks have prefected their method and it's been going on so long, they feel entitled.

I wonder if behind the scenes they rock-paper-scissors to see who gets to control each venue.  I wonder who the control freak line nazi's determine who gets to run each line.  Anyway, I am going to have some fun in Detroit.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on June 25, 2017, 02:59:37 AM
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So has anyone else arrived at the venue on show day ahead of the "offsite line" and held your ground, not letting them cut you in line?

I already told my wife I am inspired by the OP and we will be showing up 6amish at Detroit get a official wristband and going back to sleep at hotel lol.  We won't give a care about someone's list. 

The irony is the people with the fake list are the cutters, but of course will label the people that show up early as the cutters.  We will line up in Detroit and see how it goes.

We showed up at 6:04am in Boston during Vertigo in 2005.  The venue was there already and we were 10-11 on the official list.  I saw no one at that show pushing an "un-official" list. I have seen U2 49 times now.  I really have only seen it on Elevation shows in Chicago.  Show up 9am.  Be like 100 human in line and get 200 since there were names of folks sleeping at the hotel as u wait all day.  That's how it started to me, all the multiple Elevation shows.  The control freaks have prefected their method and it's been going on so long, they feel entitled.

I wonder if behind the scenes they rock-paper-scissors to see who gets to control each venue.  I wonder who the control freak line nazi's determine who gets to run each line.  Anyway, I am going to have some fun in Detroit.

How'd it go?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: chiso on June 26, 2017, 10:08:17 PM
So, is this happening in NJ/MetLife Stadium, too?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Starman on June 26, 2017, 11:07:38 PM
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So, is this happening in NJ/MetLife Stadium, too?

Yes, unfortunately the list started yesterday.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on June 26, 2017, 11:12:23 PM
From twitter, yesterday:

"NJ1 GA is at Hilton Inn Meadowlands at 2 Meadowlands Plaza, East Rutherford.  Lot A on left in back of car port"
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Saint1322 on June 27, 2017, 06:28:29 AM
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So, is this happening in NJ/MetLife Stadium, too?


Call the venue and give them a head's up. Don't let this BS stand!
Yes, unfortunately the list started yesterday.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: briscoetheque on June 27, 2017, 07:26:29 AM
Got to remember, most venues don't care anywhere near as much as the people going...
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Mr. Sarajevo 20 on June 27, 2017, 08:36:09 AM
Correct...and that's how the line runners take control.

The security staff barely know who U2 are, and have been told that U2 fans will begin descending on the property 1 to 2 days ahead of the show.

The security team is there to keep them orderly and such, not to control lines.
Most of the venue staff that deals with fans lining up is oblivious to how all of this should work...so someone shows up says..." hey I got this, we do it 2-3 times a week"...Security guy says..."sounds good to me".
It's a brilliant plan, but no, it's not fair to all GA fans.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: chiso on June 27, 2017, 11:39:35 AM
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So, is this happening in NJ/MetLife Stadium, too?

Yes, unfortunately the list started yesterday.

That's insane. Thanks for the heads up. Guess I'll have to rock some headphones while refusing to give up my earned place in line.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: afg on June 27, 2017, 11:49:48 AM
I agree that this GA line stuff is out of hand.  However, unless you want to be on the rail it is not necessary to get there early in the day.  I walked onto the floor in Foxboro at 5:15 and was 6 rows back at the top of the tree stage.  By the time U2 was on stage I was 4th row.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: chiso on June 27, 2017, 12:00:27 PM
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I agree that this GA line stuff is out of hand.  However, unless you want to be on the rail it is not necessary to get there early in the day.  I walked onto the floor in Foxboro at 5:15 and was 6 rows back at the top of the tree stage.  By the time U2 was on stage I was 4th row.
Thanks a lot. That's reassuring. I'm going with my sister, and just wanna have a good time, enjoy the show I've been waiting for my whole life (Joshua Tree tour in a stadium), from a decent spot that doesn't have to be rail.

Even so, I'm planning to get there at ~2pm, and I'm gonna lose it if people start asking me to move back.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: U2Fan on June 27, 2017, 04:17:05 PM
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I agree that this GA line stuff is out of hand.  However, unless you want to be on the rail it is not necessary to get there early in the day.  I walked onto the floor in Foxboro at 5:15 and was 6 rows back at the top of the tree stage.  By the time U2 was on stage I was 4th row.
Thanks a lot. That's reassuring. I'm going with my sister, and just wanna have a good time, enjoy the show I've been waiting for my whole life (Joshua Tree tour in a stadium), from a decent spot that doesn't have to be rail.

Even so, I'm planning to get there at ~2pm, and I'm gonna lose it if people start asking me to move back.

Hold your ground!  There are way more of us than them!  If I could leave work early I would just to get in their faces. 
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: chiso on June 27, 2017, 07:10:00 PM
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I agree that this GA line stuff is out of hand.  However, unless you want to be on the rail it is not necessary to get there early in the day.  I walked onto the floor in Foxboro at 5:15 and was 6 rows back at the top of the tree stage.  By the time U2 was on stage I was 4th row.
Thanks a lot. That's reassuring. I'm going with my sister, and just wanna have a good time, enjoy the show I've been waiting for my whole life (Joshua Tree tour in a stadium), from a decent spot that doesn't have to be rail.

Even so, I'm planning to get there at ~2pm, and I'm gonna lose it if people start asking me to move back.

Hold your ground!  There are way more of us than them!  If I could leave work early I would just to get in their faces. 

Thanks! I plan on standing my ground, wearing headphones while standing in line trying not to lose my mind, a la Gary Oldman in "León the Professional"
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: shesarainbow on June 28, 2017, 02:52:29 AM
For those going to Cleveland the OFFICIAL GA line starts at 8am when the venue hands out wristbands. That's the only list that counts in my book!

http://m.cleveland19.com/19actionnews/db_348786/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=CV1G29jB
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Saint1322 on June 28, 2017, 07:33:26 AM
I don't have issue with Vertigo OR Elevation. I get the point of them. But they serve the same purpose. Play one if you must. Never play them both, and for God's sake, not back to back. Personally, I prefer Vertigo. I've always thought it was a stronger song. But, if they want to get the crowd going, Elevation gets the bigger response.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Starman on June 28, 2017, 03:22:12 PM
If the line leaders want a rail so bad, they technically don't even need to line up. They can walk in and get a rail spot at the veerrrryyyy end of the stage. ;)
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on June 28, 2017, 03:28:04 PM
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If the line leaders want a rail so bad, they technically don't even need to line up. They can walk in and get a rail spot at the veerrrryyyy end of the stage. ;)

Do any of the band ever go there?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Starman on June 28, 2017, 04:16:23 PM
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If the line leaders want a rail so bad, they technically don't even need to line up. They can walk in and get a rail spot at the veerrrryyyy end of the stage. ;)

Do any of the band ever go there?

Nope, not even close. One of the guys from The Lumineers walked over there for a few seconds though.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on June 29, 2017, 01:34:00 PM
The GA line for Cleveland has started.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: dscriber on June 29, 2017, 02:06:13 PM
https://twitter.com/thereisnolistu2/status/880272615595663360
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Spaderholic on June 29, 2017, 02:38:40 PM
Has the line for Brussels started yet? If not I'm going to start it now and put myself first on the list. That means I'll be able to stand next to Bono on stage and hold his hand throughout the whole concert, doesn't it?! :)
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Kmama07 on June 29, 2017, 03:25:31 PM
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https://twitter.com/thereisnolistu2/status/880272615595663360
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Title: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Starman on June 29, 2017, 03:34:19 PM
Wait til they find out that I already started the Cleveland list. You have to come to Pittsburgh to sign up for it. :P
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on June 29, 2017, 05:02:38 PM
I'm laughing. The stadium for Cleveland is responding to people asking about the fan line.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FEStadium/status/880545838174420994
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: trevgreg on June 29, 2017, 05:32:09 PM
I didn't even realize there was another show in East Rutherford tonight. They started that line 3 days before the show itself?  :o
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: JTNash on June 29, 2017, 06:29:53 PM
It is kinda cool that guys in their 50s have groupies controlling a fan line for GA
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: aarond on June 29, 2017, 07:26:15 PM
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I'm laughing. The stadium for Cleveland is responding to people asking about the fan line.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FEStadium/status/880545838174420994

Funnier is the one daft enough to suggest it to the stadium.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: cocamojoe on June 29, 2017, 07:33:58 PM
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I'm laughing. The stadium for Cleveland is responding to people asking about the fan line.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FEStadium/status/880545838174420994
I love that they're both aware of and publicly saying that they will not be honoring the B.S., faux queue.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on June 29, 2017, 07:38:05 PM
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I'm laughing. The stadium for Cleveland is responding to people asking about the fan line.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FEStadium/status/880545838174420994
I love that they're both aware of and publicly saying that they will not be honoring the B.S., faux queue.

Line "policeman" Justin Kent is not happy and is questioning them who will get to be #1 LOL
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: aarond on June 29, 2017, 08:59:42 PM
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I'm laughing. The stadium for Cleveland is responding to people asking about the fan line.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FEStadium/status/880545838174420994
I love that they're both aware of and publicly saying that they will not be honoring the B.S., faux queue.

Line "policeman" Justin Kent is not happy and is questioning them who will get to be #1 LOL

I guess he'll find out at 8am Saturday!! LOL
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on July 01, 2017, 09:53:05 AM
Congrats to Cleveland!!!! Non list people arrived at 3:30 AM to be first. GA list people who were asleeping didn't catch wind until 2 HOURS later at which they came very angry. The venue came around and stuck to their rules, giving wristbands to the people who were there first
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 01, 2017, 09:58:18 AM
Who would have thought it eh...a queue working  based on who is actually physically there and their position.

Open call to any of these self appointed 'leaders' and their B.S. lists.......Come on here and explain how you think what you do is right.

I am sure people would be interested to read your thoughts...
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 01, 2017, 10:25:39 AM
One thing that makes me sad is that people are taking pictures of who they call "line cheaters"    and posting them on social media and saying "remember these faces." How about they remember the faces of the refugees on the screen during Miss Sarajevo tonight, and ponder what is really unfair and what we can do about it? If the band plays Bad tonight, I hope people take Bono's advice and "let it go."
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on July 01, 2017, 10:35:59 AM
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One thing that makes me sad is that people are taking pictures of who they call "line cheaters"    and posting them on social media and saying "remember these faces." How about they remember the faces of the refugees on the screen during Miss Sarajevo tonight, and ponder what is really unfair and what we can do about it? If the band plays Bad tonight, I hope people take Bono's advice and "let it go."

Any links?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 01, 2017, 11:08:46 AM
I think the Facebook ones I saw got deleted by the admin. I might be able to find one on twitter, but I don't want to "out" anybody by name. They were complaining  that they got pushed back by the "line jumpers" a whole 16 places (venue numbered wristband vs sharpie on hand number) which is like, nothing.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 01, 2017, 12:18:18 PM
I'd also like to add that the people I know who do the fan line are lovely people, I respect their choice, but the person who posted "remember these faces" I do not know and don't think I want to get to know.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 01, 2017, 12:18:48 PM
16 places, 1600 places or 1 place why should people accept being pushed around by these people....and why on earth these people think they have some kind of right to do as they please baffles me.

'Lovely people' don't turn up at queues and push in front of people who were there before them.

Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 01, 2017, 12:43:42 PM
My point is, apparently only 16 or so people showed up independent of the fan line. They were wristbanded first, then the fan line. Hence people being 16 places behind the number on their hand. The venue apparently did what they said they would do. And in my opinion, feel free to disagree with the process, which I do, but the people who do the fan line aren't monsters.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 01, 2017, 12:59:07 PM
I think what really made some people mad is that some of the people who got numbers in the fan line also defected over to the independent line, I suppose so they were covered either way. I think what probably made them the maddest is that they didn't think to do that.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 01, 2017, 01:04:06 PM
Ultimately there are always two sides to a story.....IF these people as has been suggested are pushing in queues/starting lists with their names at the head of when they aren't even at the venue and various other behaviours people have described then clearly that is poor form...

Of course as said there are two sides to a story and i for one would be interested to hear the story from these peoples side - it is a recurring argument tour after tour so there is clearly a story...
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 01, 2017, 01:28:19 PM
I would like to hear from U2 management. They apparently have told venues to honor the fan line. But this happens the morning of the show, after mixed messages have already gone out to ticket holders. I think this is what happened in Boston, and my guess is this didn't happen in Cleveland because the independent line was so small, it wasn't worth worrying about. But, if this is what is going to eventually happen, then U2 should include this in their advance info to the venue, so EVERYBODY with GAs gets an email saying hey, there may be an unofficial line somewhere near the venue three days before the event, and we may or may not end up honoring it, have fun!

I did see a funny tweet that the info about where the "line" was sounds like a drug deal: "if you want to get a number tonight, we're in a black Ford Focus across from the science museum."
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 01, 2017, 01:55:04 PM
I doubt if any line advocates will come in here because, well, not exactly a welcoming atmosphere. I will try to summarize what I have read, not that I think it will change any minds, but if you're curious, here goes.

They feel they are helping keep order and crowd control, since people are going to come early anyway and venues/cities don't want lots of people milling around for days.

The venue saying everybody just come at 8 am and we'll wristband you with numbers won't work because security won't be able to handle 100s or 1000s of people at once, so they are preventing chaos by having people nice and organized already. (Ignoring the fact that, well, that's what security is trained to do and actually manages to do for every other concert and event...)

Some say they are doing a service to the fans and venues. Others flat out admit they want the rail because they are short or have health issues. (If I had a health issue I think I would talk to the venue about what accessible options might be available, but whatevs.)

So I truly think they feel they are being helpful, and feel like if you can't get on the internet and find out line details, that's your problem. (The "remember these faces" gal used this argument. She was an all around peach.) They talk about how "it's always been done this way" (even I know that's wrong) and it "works" (as long as the independents shut up and know their place.)

The worst thing to me is some people stress so much over doing the line, especially if they're new to GA, and don't realize IT DOESN'T MATTER, you will be fine either way!

Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 01, 2017, 02:05:57 PM
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I doubt if any line advocates will come in here because, well, not exactly a welcoming atmosphere. I will try to summarize what I have read, not that I think it will change any minds, but if you're curious, here goes.

They feel they are helping keep order and crowd control, since people are going to come early anyway and venues/cities don't want lots of people milling around for days.

The venue saying everybody just come at 8 am and we'll wristband you with numbers won't work because security won't be able to handle 100s or 1000s of people at once, so they are preventing chaos by having people nice and organized already. (Ignoring the fact that, well, that's what security is trained to do and actually manages to do for every other concert and event...)

Some say they are doing a service to the fans and venues. Others flat out admit they want the rail because they are short or have health issues. (If I had a health issue I think I would talk to the venue about what accessible options might be available, but whatevs.)

So I truly think they feel they are being helpful, and feel like if you can't get on the internet and find out line details, that's your problem. (The "remember these faces" gal used this argument. She was an all around peach.) They talk about how "it's always been done this way" (even I know that's wrong) and it "works" (as long as the independents shut up and know their place.)

The worst thing to me is some people stress so much over doing the line, especially if they're new to GA, and don't realize IT DOESN'T MATTER, you will be fine either way!

Interesting and largely fairly put even though i wouldn't agree with some of the stance.... but what is this thing about being at the head of queues they aren't even in - if true that really should be something that stops IMO
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Spaderholic on July 01, 2017, 02:56:37 PM
What is peoples' obsession with being first or being on the rail all the time, I just don't get it? Do people even have a decent view of everything from the rail? I'd have thought it would be too close and all you're doing it cricking your neck looking up at a really high stage! Isn't it better to be a little further back so that you can see the whole of the stage and the screen with the amazing graphics? Surely you can't take in the whole picture if you're so close up?! Not to mention how obsessive and desperate it must look to the band to always see the same old faces at the front all the time, for heaven's sake!

Plus those saying they "need" to be at the front because of "health issues", what kind of crap is that?! If you have health issues why you would be wanting to stand up for hours, anyone with genuine health issues would surely get a seat!! If you stand up for hours and cope with all the pushing and shoving your health issues clearly can't be that bad! It's just an excuse! I remember years ago when I suffered some back problems, there was no way on earth I could stand at a gig, I had to have a seat. I would have only made my back worse by standing and being pushed and shoved! I had a GA ticket for a Radiohead gig that year (bought long before I'd hurt my back) and I was wondering how on earth I'd cope at the gig and whether I could even stand through it. When I got to the venue I told the staff about my back and asked if I could have a seat instead and said I would pay the difference in ticket price, if necessary. They said "no problem", gave me a seat and didn't charge me any extra, which was great. No one with a genuine disability would stand for hours in those conditions and certainly not on the rail. I've had the misfortune to be on the rail for a couple of gigs, years ago, and I remember it being horrendous when the crowd suddenly surges forward, I felt like I was going to be crushed against the railing! I had bruises on my ribs from being pushed so hard against the metal barrier. What's the point of that? Never again!

Just curious, these people who seem to think they need to be practically "on" the stage for every gig, are they the kinds of fans who do it to try and seek attention from the band and think if the band sees them enough times they'll become "friends" with them or something?! Lol, I know there are a lot of delusional people in fandoms like that. I just don't get the obsession with having to be at the very front every single time and spend their time looking up the nostrils of the band!! I'd have thought about a quarter of the way back (either standing or seated) would be the best to have a good clear view of the band but also of the whole stage and the amazing graphics. I just don't understand the mentality of the fans who are always at the rail and who (by all the accounts I've read) go hysterical if someone "dares" to get in front of them in the queue and who are actually aggressive to people about it! How old are these fans?!! They seem to have a strange sense of priorities in life that being at the very front for a gig is the be all and end all of everything, that they're willing to get into scuffles with people over it!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 01, 2017, 03:06:59 PM
Everything I've ever seen posted is adamant that there are no phantom names on the list and that everyone whose name is on the list was physically present when the name was put on there, although I have my doubts. One wrinkle in Cleveland was the line leader kept 1-20 for people who would do a shift as line leader. I hadn't heard that before.

The health issues lady was someone with limited vision and said it helped her obviously to see, and also helped to hold on to something to stay "anchored." I assume she had a friend with her too. I might give her a pass.

As to motivations for wanting to be on the rail, I'm sure it varies. Never done it, maybe if I did I'd be hooked. Which is the same reason I never did cocaine, figured if I liked it, I never could afford to do it regularly, so what's the point.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Chrisedge on July 01, 2017, 03:29:13 PM
Anyone willing to actually wait, should have priority over any fan-run lines. So if 100 people show up at 4am, and the final check in, is at 6am, those 100 people should be at the front of the line. I recommend more folks show JUST prior to the final check-in times, and start breaking this thing up. Do not back down!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Synj on July 01, 2017, 05:41:56 PM
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Everything I've ever seen posted is adamant that there are no phantom names on the list and that everyone whose name is on the list was physically present when the name was put on there, although I have my doubts. One wrinkle in Cleveland was the line leader kept 1-20 for people who would do a shift as line leader. I hadn't heard that before.

The health issues lady was someone with limited vision and said it helped her obviously to see, and also helped to hold on to something to stay "anchored." I assume she had a friend with her too. I might give her a pass.

As to motivations for wanting to be on the rail, I'm sure it varies. Never done it, maybe if I did I'd be hooked. Which is the same reason I never did cocaine, figured if I liked it, I never could afford to do it regularly, so what's the point.

The shift thing seems to be the rub.

If it's the same 20 people doing the shifts and no one else is given an opportunity, then they can basically say, oh no, so-and-so is doing a shift, that's why they're on the list so high. So even if so-and-so is at another show or can't make the normal check ins, which I believe has been confirmed, ie. someone in at rail in Toronto but still able to make check ins for Boston, they're still guaranteed their high # because they will run a shift for 2 hours when they eventually do make it into the next city.

It's a closed system that favors the same 20 people over and over and the rest of the people that comply with the line do so because it's easier to just go along to get along. There is no other way to explain how it's the exact same people in the exact same place every single show. I'm not saying it's not 'work' to try and coordinate this thing, but the selflessness 'doing it for the fans' argument rings SUPER hollow to me.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Synj on July 01, 2017, 05:45:26 PM
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Anyone willing to actually wait, should have priority over any fan-run lines. So if 100 people show up at 4am, and the final check in, is at 6am, those 100 people should be at the front of the line. I recommend more folks show JUST prior to the final check-in times, and start breaking this thing up. Do not back down!

My understanding is that security are being pressured by band security to comply, meaning they will still let the unofficial line in before those 100 people. I for the life of me do not understand how U2 of all bands is okay with what are ultimately 1%ers having the same coveted position night after night after night.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Spaderholic on July 01, 2017, 05:53:39 PM
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Anyone willing to actually wait, should have priority over any fan-run lines. So if 100 people show up at 4am, and the final check in, is at 6am, those 100 people should be at the front of the line. I recommend more folks show JUST prior to the final check-in times, and start breaking this thing up. Do not back down!

My understanding is that security are being pressured by band security to comply, meaning they will still let the unofficial line in before those 100 people. I for the life of me do not understand how U2 of all bands is okay with what are ultimately 1%ers having the same coveted position night after night after night.

Maybe it's a case of trying to keep the insane ones happy so that there isn't a repeat of that sit-down "protest" that happened years ago! That madness must have freaked them out! Maybe they just want a quiet life, who knows? I mean, I know they shouldn't give in to bullies but who knows what's going on in the band members' heads! It's a weird world, for sure, lol!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: jenniferh aka jen on July 01, 2017, 05:58:27 PM
Well Cleveland was said to be a cluster. In reality the stadium said they would not honor the list so whoever was there at 8am was given a wristband and told to come back at a certain time. About 25 people who did not put themselves on the fan list got there at 8am and got the first wristbands. Now the line runners and others began a sh** fit and tried to publicly shame these people on Facebook. Yeah that didn't go over well and all of those posts were deleted.

People need to grow up and quit acting entitled! I actually have a great spot and I didn't get in line until 6pm.


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Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 01, 2017, 06:03:54 PM
Supposedly in Cleveland the line leader just asked people when they signed up if they would do a shift and if they said yes, they got in top 20 and if no, they got whatever spot they otherwise would. And supposedly none of them knew each other before Cleveland.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: jenniferh aka jen on July 01, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
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Supposedly in Cleveland the line leader just asked people when they signed up if they would do a shift and if they said yes, they got in top 20 and if no, they got whatever spot they otherwise would. And supposedly none of them knew each other before Cleveland.

Some element of truth to that, but a lot of the same people at the front of the line too.


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Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: JTNash on July 01, 2017, 06:37:34 PM
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Supposedly in Cleveland the line leader just asked people when they signed up if they would do a shift and if they said yes, they got in top 20 and if no, they got whatever spot they otherwise would. And supposedly none of them knew each other before Cleveland.
awe line leader they do that in my 4 year old son's preschool class
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Spaderholic on July 01, 2017, 06:43:48 PM
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Supposedly in Cleveland the line leader just asked people when they signed up if they would do a shift and if they said yes, they got in top 20 and if no, they got whatever spot they otherwise would. And supposedly none of them knew each other before Cleveland.
awe line leader they do that in my 4 year old son's preschool class
Hahaha :D
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 01, 2017, 06:47:16 PM
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Supposedly in Cleveland the line leader just asked people when they signed up if they would do a shift and if they said yes, they got in top 20 and if no, they got whatever spot they otherwise would. And supposedly none of them knew each other before Cleveland.
awe line leader they do that in my 4 year old son's preschool class
Hahaha :D
:)
Yeah, line runner, person with the notebook, whatever. I just refuse to use the term some people use cuz I think it shouldn't be used to refer to anyone who isn't a member of the National Socialist Party in WWll or people who identify with them today.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on July 01, 2017, 06:50:18 PM
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Supposedly in Cleveland the line leader just asked people when they signed up if they would do a shift and if they said yes, they got in top 20 and if no, they got whatever spot they otherwise would. And supposedly none of them knew each other before Cleveland.
awe line leader they do that in my 4 year old son's preschool class
Hahaha :D
:)
Yeah, line runner, person with the notebook, whatever. I just refuse to use the term some people use cuz I think it shouldn't be used to refer to anyone who isn't a member of the National Socialist Party in WWll or people who identify with them today.

The reality is this stupidity won't have any chance of ending until JT is over. People will continue to make lists and people will continue to argue and follow venue rules and refuse to leave the lines. Sometimes it might work, sometimes not. I remember the good old days when I'd show up morning of and be #80.

For whatever reason, u2 management is supporting it but they won't make it official which is wrong. In my mind, some of the blame also goes on u2 staff for that. Everyone should know and be enforced with the same rules. No "this is our line, please use or system" nonsense. U2.com should post something. Maybe a sit down from the fans who don't know of the unofficial line at a concert will raise awareness.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 01, 2017, 07:00:37 PM
Pretty sure a line will be a line (or gueue)in Europe and South America, then the list will return in September.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
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Supposedly in Cleveland the line leader just asked people when they signed up if they would do a shift and if they said yes, they got in top 20 and if no, they got whatever spot they otherwise would. And supposedly none of them knew each other before Cleveland.
awe line leader they do that in my 4 year old son's preschool class
Hahaha :D
:)
Yeah, line runner, person with the notebook, whatever. I just refuse to use the term some people use cuz I think it shouldn't be used to refer to anyone who isn't a member of the National Socialist Party in WWll or people who identify with them today.

The reality is this stupidity won't have any chance of ending until JT is over. People will continue to make lists and people will continue to argue and follow venue rules and refuse to leave the lines. Sometimes it might work, sometimes not. I remember the good old days when I'd show up morning of and be #80.

For whatever reason, u2 management is supporting it but they won't make it official which is wrong. In my mind, some of the blame also goes on u2 staff for that. Everyone should know and be enforced with the same rules. No "this is our line, please use or system" nonsense. U2.com should post something. Maybe a sit down from the fans who don't know of the unofficial line at a concert will raise awareness.

Agree 100%. If U2 staff is going to tacitly recognize the unofficial line/list, then they ought to own it.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: JTNash on July 01, 2017, 07:11:53 PM
There are people in every walk of life that will try to make themselves
Seem important
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: jenniferh aka jen on July 01, 2017, 07:23:10 PM
The Europeans are having a good laugh!


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Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: ultravioletlight on July 02, 2017, 12:41:32 AM
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Anyone willing to actually wait, should have priority over any fan-run lines. So if 100 people show up at 4am, and the final check in, is at 6am, those 100 people should be at the front of the line. I recommend more folks show JUST prior to the final check-in times, and start breaking this thing up. Do not back down!

My understanding is that security are being pressured by band security to comply, meaning they will still let the unofficial line in before those 100 people. I for the life of me do not understand how U2 of all bands is okay with what are ultimately 1%ers having the same coveted position night after night after night.

Maybe it's a case of trying to keep the insane ones happy so that there isn't a repeat of that sit-down "protest" that happened years ago! That madness must have freaked them out! Maybe they just want a quiet life, who knows? I mean, I know they shouldn't give in to bullies but who knows what's going on in the band members' heads! It's a weird world, for sure, lol!
Wait, what's the story behind this protest?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on July 02, 2017, 02:26:43 AM
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Anyone willing to actually wait, should have priority over any fan-run lines. So if 100 people show up at 4am, and the final check in, is at 6am, those 100 people should be at the front of the line. I recommend more folks show JUST prior to the final check-in times, and start breaking this thing up. Do not back down!

My understanding is that security are being pressured by band security to comply, meaning they will still let the unofficial line in before those 100 people. I for the life of me do not understand how U2 of all bands is okay with what are ultimately 1%ers having the same coveted position night after night after night.

Maybe it's a case of trying to keep the insane ones happy so that there isn't a repeat of that sit-down "protest" that happened years ago! That madness must have freaked them out! Maybe they just want a quiet life, who knows? I mean, I know they shouldn't give in to bullies but who knows what's going on in the band members' heads! It's a weird world, for sure, lol!
Wait, what's the story behind this protest?

Elevation Boston DVD. U2 decided to put new people in the front row to capture real excitement from people who've never been at the front. This angered fans who queued for front row and didn't get it. So for several songs, they purposely sat down while u2 played. I honestly can't even tell on the DVD but some people say they can. For I think the first three songs they did it? U2 saw it and I guess regretted selecting new people for the front.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 02, 2017, 03:41:59 AM
Someone mentioned Europe earlier....does this same B.S. happen here to or is this a USA thing?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: hollywoodswag on July 02, 2017, 04:25:22 AM
I just find all this interesting as my wife, my father, and I all showed up to the Tampa show at 6:45 for the listed 7:00 start and wound up just a few people behind the B-stage which, at least from my perspective, seemed to be much lower and closer to the audience than the main stage. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 02, 2017, 06:24:13 AM
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Someone mentioned Europe earlier....does this same B.S. happen here to or is this a USA thing?

I have heard no. I have also heard that the British have elevated the queue to an art form.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 02, 2017, 10:22:45 AM
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I have heard no. I have also heard that the British have elevated the queue to an art form.

Brits certainly like a queue

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Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Bentleyspop on July 02, 2017, 12:51:22 PM
Springsteen went to the lottery because he didn't  want to see the same faces every night.
Pearl Jam went to g.a. because they were tired of seeing the same people in the fan club seats every night. And they have a policy of NO LIST. If you are in line you stay in line (except of course for basic human needs).
U2 supposedly went to g.a. so they wouldn't see the same people up front every night.
Except  they  do.
The same people in every city seeing the same show night after night after night.

Time for U2's management to do the right thing.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: d.darroch on July 02, 2017, 05:27:28 PM
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Yeah, it happened on i+e. I was on the list the night before the show at both London & Paris.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: aviastar on July 02, 2017, 06:25:13 PM
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Elevation Boston DVD. U2 decided to put new people in the front row to capture real excitement from people who've never been at the front. This angered fans who queued for front row and didn't get it. So for several songs, they purposely sat down while u2 played. I honestly can't even tell on the DVD but some people say they can. For I think the first three songs they did it? U2 saw it and I guess regretted selecting new people for the front.

U2 is one of my favorite things to enjoy on this earth but this is seriously some insanely obnoxious BS on the part of the "protesters". Talk about first world problems! And wasn't this just after 9/11?
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Post by: trevgreg on July 02, 2017, 07:09:35 PM
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U2 is one of my favorite things to enjoy on this earth but this is seriously some insanely obnoxious BS on the part of the "protesters". Talk about first world problems! And wasn't this just after 9/11?

No, it was in June of 2001. So a couple of months prior.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 07, 2017, 06:37:30 AM
Regarding if there will be "the list" in Europe, I just read a post on twitter that said the line is across the street from the venue, and check in times are tonight at 7 and tomorrow morning between 7-8. So I guess the "system" did cross the pond, it remains to be seen how it translates on show day.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: shesarainbow on July 07, 2017, 06:42:06 AM
Yep, it's happening here...

https://twitter.com/U2start/status/883299131736961024

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Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 07, 2017, 07:21:17 AM
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Yep, it's happening here...

https://twitter.com/U2start/status/883299131736961024

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Ha!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: UnknownCaller98 on July 07, 2017, 08:35:59 AM
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Yep, it's happening here...

https://twitter.com/U2start/status/883299131736961024

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Someone mentioned Europe earlier....does this same B.S. happen here to or is this a USA thing?

Ha!
Yeah what do I do when I get in the line at 2pm tomorrow? Will that queue have moved to gate C or D or wherever? So confusing.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 07, 2017, 08:48:54 AM
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https://twitter.com/U2start/status/883299131736961024

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Someone mentioned Europe earlier....does this same B.S. happen here to or is this a USA thing?

Ha!
Yeah what do I do when I get in the line at 2pm tomorrow? Will that queue have moved to gate C or D or wherever? So confusing.

Personally if i was you i would forget the queue - go and have a nice drink and some nice food in one of the lovely bars gardens near the ground or by thrle river and rock up to the gig about 7-730pm feeling fresh, well fed and watered and not worn down from hours of standing in baking sun on concrete.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: riffraff on July 07, 2017, 08:50:19 AM
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https://twitter.com/U2start/status/883299131736961024

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Someone mentioned Europe earlier....does this same B.S. happen here to or is this a USA thing?

Ha!
Yeah what do I do when I get in the line at 2pm tomorrow? Will that queue have moved to gate C or D or wherever? So confusing.

Personally if i was you i would forget the queue - go and have a nice drink and some nice food in one of the lovely bars gardens near the ground or by thrle river and rock up to the gig about 7-730pm feeling fresh, well fed and watered and not worn down from hours of standing in baking sun on concrete.
Is that what YOU are going to do, an tha? Are you going? Well, ARE you?  ;D
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 07, 2017, 08:56:05 AM
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Yep, it's happening here...

https://twitter.com/U2start/status/883299131736961024

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Someone mentioned Europe earlier....does this same B.S. happen here to or is this a USA thing?

Ha!
Yeah what do I do when I get in the line at 2pm tomorrow? Will that queue have moved to gate C or D or wherever? So confusing.

Personally if i was you i would forget the queue - go and have a nice drink and some nice food in one of the lovely bars gardens near the ground or by thrle river and rock up to the gig about 7-730pm feeling fresh, well fed and watered and not worn down from hours of standing in baking sun on concrete.
Is that what YOU are going to do, an tha? Are you going? Well, ARE you?  ;D

Ha!

IF i go i will be a little later than that.....I'd probably aim to get there about 8 - wait for the touts to start giving away their unsold tickets as gig starts/pick up spares from the casual latecomers....they always have people from their parties who have ducked out at last minute and are many in number at these enormodome shows.

As it stands though I am not very motivated for Saturday but Sunday is a possible. I can get from my house to there in under an hour.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: riffraff on July 07, 2017, 09:16:30 AM
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Yep, it's happening here...

https://twitter.com/U2start/status/883299131736961024

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Someone mentioned Europe earlier....does this same B.S. happen here to or is this a USA thing?

Ha!
Yeah what do I do when I get in the line at 2pm tomorrow? Will that queue have moved to gate C or D or wherever? So confusing.

Personally if i was you i would forget the queue - go and have a nice drink and some nice food in one of the lovely bars gardens near the ground or by thrle river and rock up to the gig about 7-730pm feeling fresh, well fed and watered and not worn down from hours of standing in baking sun on concrete.
Is that what YOU are going to do, an tha? Are you going? Well, ARE you?  ;D

Ha!

IF i go i will be a little later than that.....I'd probably aim to get there about 8 - wait for the touts to start giving away their unsold tickets as gig starts/pick up spares from the casual latecomers....they always have people from their parties who have ducked out at last minute and are many in number at these enormodome shows.

As it stands though I am not very motivated for Saturday but Sunday is a possible. I can get from my house to there in under an hour.
Do it! Just go!!! Enjoy...and, I want a full report!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 07, 2017, 09:38:55 AM
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https://twitter.com/U2start/status/883299131736961024

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Someone mentioned Europe earlier....does this same B.S. happen here to or is this a USA thing?

Ha!
Yeah what do I do when I get in the line at 2pm tomorrow? Will that queue have moved to gate C or D or wherever? So confusing.

Personally if i was you i would forget the queue - go and have a nice drink and some nice food in one of the lovely bars gardens near the ground or by thrle river and rock up to the gig about 7-730pm feeling fresh, well fed and watered and not worn down from hours of standing in baking sun on concrete.
Is that what YOU are going to do, an tha? Are you going? Well, ARE you?  ;D

Ha!

IF i go i will be a little later than that.....I'd probably aim to get there about 8 - wait for the touts to start giving away their unsold tickets as gig starts/pick up spares from the casual latecomers....they always have people from their parties who have ducked out at last minute and are many in number at these enormodome shows.

As it stands though I am not very motivated for Saturday but Sunday is a possible. I can get from my house to there in under an hour.
Do it! Just go!!! Enjoy...and, I want a full report!

We'll see...unlikely at minute as quite busy at weekend but see how feel sunday
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: shesarainbow on July 07, 2017, 09:53:11 AM
Go to the gate stated on your ticket. These guys will have moved from Gate F long before 2pm.

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Yep, it's happening here...

https://twitter.com/U2start/status/883299131736961024

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Someone mentioned Europe earlier....does this same B.S. happen here to or is this a USA thing?

Ha!
Yeah what do I do when I get in the line at 2pm tomorrow? Will that queue have moved to gate C or D or wherever? So confusing.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 07, 2017, 01:42:47 PM
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https://twitter.com/U2start/status/883299131736961024

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Someone mentioned Europe earlier....does this same B.S. happen here to or is this a USA thing?

Ha!
Yeah what do I do when I get in the line at 2pm tomorrow? Will that queue have moved to gate C or D or wherever? So confusing.

Personally if i was you i would forget the queue - go and have a nice drink and some nice food in one of the lovely bars gardens near the ground or by thrle river and rock up to the gig about 7-730pm feeling fresh, well fed and watered and not worn down from hours of standing in baking sun on concrete.
Is that what YOU are going to do, an tha? Are you going? Well, ARE you?  ;D

Ha!

IF i go i will be a little later than that.....I'd probably aim to get there about 8 - wait for the touts to start giving away their unsold tickets as gig starts/pick up spares from the casual latecomers....they always have people from their parties who have ducked out at last minute and are many in number at these enormodome shows.

As it stands though I am not very motivated for Saturday but Sunday is a possible. I can get from my house to there in under an hour.
Do it! Just go!!! Enjoy...and, I want a full report!

We'll see...unlikely at minute as quite busy at weekend but see how feel sunday

You know you want to go hear Elevation.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 07, 2017, 01:47:18 PM
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https://twitter.com/U2start/status/883299131736961024

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Someone mentioned Europe earlier....does this same B.S. happen here to or is this a USA thing?

Ha!
Yeah what do I do when I get in the line at 2pm tomorrow? Will that queue have moved to gate C or D or wherever? So confusing.

Personally if i was you i would forget the queue - go and have a nice drink and some nice food in one of the lovely bars gardens near the ground or by thrle river and rock up to the gig about 7-730pm feeling fresh, well fed and watered and not worn down from hours of standing in baking sun on concrete.
Is that what YOU are going to do, an tha? Are you going? Well, ARE you?  ;D

Ha!

IF i go i will be a little later than that.....I'd probably aim to get there about 8 - wait for the touts to start giving away their unsold tickets as gig starts/pick up spares from the casual latecomers....they always have people from their parties who have ducked out at last minute and are many in number at these enormodome shows.

As it stands though I am not very motivated for Saturday but Sunday is a possible. I can get from my house to there in under an hour.
Do it! Just go!!! Enjoy...and, I want a full report!

We'll see...unlikely at minute as quite busy at weekend but see how feel sunday

You know you want to go hear Elevation.

Woooooooooooooooooooohooooooooooooo
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: hollywoodswag on July 07, 2017, 02:55:17 PM
To be fair, you'd be hearing the best live version of Elevation ever performed.  ;)
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 07, 2017, 03:04:05 PM
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To be fair, you'd be hearing the best live version of Elevation ever performed.  ;)

You mean they have dropped it.....YES
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To be fair, you'd be hearing the best live version of Elevation ever performed.  ;)

You mean they have dropped it.....YES
pah
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To be fair, you'd be hearing the best live version of Elevation ever performed.  ;)

You mean they have dropped it.....YES
pah

PaH
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To be fair, you'd be hearing the best live version of Elevation ever performed.  ;)

You mean they have dropped it.....YES
pah

PaH
I think you've had one too many drinkies...
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
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To be fair, you'd be hearing the best live version of Elevation ever performed.  ;)

You mean they have dropped it.....YES
pah

PaH
I think you've had one too many drinkies...

Impossible!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: shineinthesummernight on July 08, 2017, 01:58:24 PM
   To put it in perspective, it's quite a gift to be able to attend a show an hour away.  I have to do major strategizing to attend anything, as I live in the rural boondocks.  Four flipping hours to Detroit and it took me six to get to Cleveland...in a rainstorm with threatening flash floods no less.  As we drove into Cleveland, that annoying low intermittent beep suddenly sounded on the car radio and we heard the announcer intone that people in flash floods usually die in their cars as they try to push their way through the water and mayhem.  So in a sense, I risked my life for the opportunity to hear "Elevation" in a live setting. (Yes, this is a different version of your grandmother's "we walked to school five miles through the ten foot drifts of snow" story.  On second thought, maybe Anglo-grandmothers don't tell that particular story.  Maybe they have a different kind of harrowing story they tell...I couldn't imagine what.)
   Anyway, just encouraging you An Tha to dig out that tattered Mole in the Hole shirt!
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Post by: an tha on July 08, 2017, 02:03:55 PM
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   To put it in perspective, it's quite a gift to be able to attend a show an hour away.  I have to do major strategizing to attend anything, as I live in the rural boondocks.  Four flipping hours to Detroit and it took me six to get to Cleveland...in a rainstorm with threatening flash floods no less.  As we drove into Cleveland, that annoying low intermittent beep suddenly sounded on the car radio and we heard the announcer intone that people in flash floods usually die in their cars as they try to push their way through the water and mayhem.  So in a sense, I risked my life for the opportunity to hear "Elevation" in a live setting. (Yes, this is a different version of your grandmother's "we walked to school five miles through the ten foot drifts of snow" story.  On second thought, maybe Anglo-grandmothers don't tell that particular story.  Maybe they have a different kind of harrowing story they tell...I couldn't imagine what.)
   Anyway, just encouraging you An Tha to dig out that tattered Mole in the Hole shirt!

I am all over it!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: briscoetheque on July 08, 2017, 04:09:37 PM
We all know you'll be there.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
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We all know you'll be there.

Have to admit finger was hovering over the browser a few mins ago as the standing tickets for tomorrow have now landed on the RFU website.....
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We all know you'll be there.

Have to admit finger was hovering over the browser a few mins ago as the standing tickets for tomorrow have now landed on the RFU website.....
Oh, just go! PLEASE??? (They did Elevation tonight just for you, and you weren't there!)
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We all know you'll be there.

Have to admit finger was hovering over the browser a few mins ago as the standing tickets for tomorrow have now landed on the RFU website.....
Oh, just go! PLEASE??? (They did Elevation tonight just for you, and you weren't there!)

I've just taken the plunge.....makes me laugh - standing ticket £70 plus £8.25 'fees'.....charging people nearly a tenner in fees for a ticket purchased less than 24 hours before the show that will of course be collected at venue so isn't even postage - what a racket.

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We all know you'll be there.

Have to admit finger was hovering over the browser a few mins ago as the standing tickets for tomorrow have now landed on the RFU website.....
Oh, just go! PLEASE??? (They did Elevation tonight just for you, and you weren't there!)

I've just taken the plunge.....makes me laugh - standing ticket £70 plus £8.25 'fees'.....charging people nearly a tenner in fees for a ticket purchased less than 24 hours before the show that will of course be collected at venue so isn't even postage - what a racket.
To quote a dear friend of mine, "This has made a grumpy old woman smile". I'm SO glad you're going...
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We all know you'll be there.

Have to admit finger was hovering over the browser a few mins ago as the standing tickets for tomorrow have now landed on the RFU website.....
Oh, just go! PLEASE??? (They did Elevation tonight just for you, and you weren't there!)

I've just taken the plunge.....makes me laugh - standing ticket £70 plus £8.25 'fees'.....charging people nearly a tenner in fees for a ticket purchased less than 24 hours before the show that will of course be collected at venue so isn't even postage - what a racket.
To quote a dear friend of mine, "This has made a grumpy old woman smile". I'm SO glad you're going...

It was likely i'd go in end....regardless of how uninspiring the setlist looks etc (i know why they are doing the hits) and TJT being an album i find 'ok' u2 usually put a good show on and they aren't going to be around forever....

End of day i've gone to every tour in my adult life and decided to keep that going.....its the old flame isn't it, it is still there!
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We all know you'll be there.

Have to admit finger was hovering over the browser a few mins ago as the standing tickets for tomorrow have now landed on the RFU website.....
Oh, just go! PLEASE??? (They did Elevation tonight just for you, and you weren't there!)

I've just taken the plunge.....makes me laugh - standing ticket £70 plus £8.25 'fees'.....charging people nearly a tenner in fees for a ticket purchased less than 24 hours before the show that will of course be collected at venue so isn't even postage - what a racket.
To quote a dear friend of mine, "This has made a grumpy old woman smile". I'm SO glad you're going...

It was likely i'd go in end....regardless of how uninspiring the setlist looks etc (i know why they are doing the hits) and TJT being an album i find 'ok' u2 usually put a good show on and they aren't going to be around forever....

End of day i've gone to every tour in my adult life and decided to keep that going.....its the old flame isn't it, it is still there!
I think once the U2 flame has been truly lit, it never goes out. I'm honestly glad that you're going...I think you may have regretted it had you not seen this tour.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: il_capo on July 08, 2017, 06:12:12 PM
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We all know you'll be there.

Have to admit finger was hovering over the browser a few mins ago as the standing tickets for tomorrow have now landed on the RFU website.....
Oh, just go! PLEASE??? (They did Elevation tonight just for you, and you weren't there!)

I've just taken the plunge.....makes me laugh - standing ticket £70 plus £8.25 'fees'.....charging people nearly a tenner in fees for a ticket purchased less than 24 hours before the show that will of course be collected at venue so isn't even postage - what a racket.
To quote a dear friend of mine, "This has made a grumpy old woman smile". I'm SO glad you're going...

It was likely i'd go in end....regardless of how uninspiring the setlist looks etc (i know why they are doing the hits) and TJT being an album i find 'ok' u2 usually put a good show on and they aren't going to be around forever....

End of day i've gone to every tour in my adult life and decided to keep that going.....its the old flame isn't it, it is still there!
I think once the U2 flame has been truly lit, it never goes out. I'm honestly glad that you're going...I think you may have regretted it had you not seen this tour.

I'm confident that an tha is going to enjoy the show tomorrow.  On paper the setlist might be a bit boring but in practice it animates the crowd and shows their wares as a powerful live band.  I am expecting to have a good time tomorrow myself  :)
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We all know you'll be there.

Have to admit finger was hovering over the browser a few mins ago as the standing tickets for tomorrow have now landed on the RFU website.....
Oh, just go! PLEASE??? (They did Elevation tonight just for you, and you weren't there!)

I've just taken the plunge.....makes me laugh - standing ticket £70 plus £8.25 'fees'.....charging people nearly a tenner in fees for a ticket purchased less than 24 hours before the show that will of course be collected at venue so isn't even postage - what a racket.
To quote a dear friend of mine, "This has made a grumpy old woman smile". I'm SO glad you're going...

It was likely i'd go in end....regardless of how uninspiring the setlist looks etc (i know why they are doing the hits) and TJT being an album i find 'ok' u2 usually put a good show on and they aren't going to be around forever....

End of day i've gone to every tour in my adult life and decided to keep that going.....its the old flame isn't it, it is still there!
I think once the U2 flame has been truly lit, it never goes out. I'm honestly glad that you're going...I think you may have regretted it had you not seen this tour.

I'm confident that an tha is going to enjoy the show tomorrow.  On paper the setlist might be a bit boring but in practice it animates the crowd and shows their wares as a powerful live band.  I am expecting to have a good time tomorrow myself  :)
You will both enjoy...you'll even enjoy Elevation! Glad you're both going.
(Hey, I'm such a silly, they could probably play Wild Honey for 2 hours and I'd still enjoy it!)
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 08, 2017, 06:40:06 PM
I've stayed out completely from all the setlist debate for this tour as until tonight i wasn't attending...

My thoughts are this....it is 'on paper' pretty uninspiring but that said i can see how it would work in a situation like this tour.

Big stadiums with lots of casual fans in and probably a lot of people who know u2 for their hits and this album mainly.

So start show with well known big u2 songs and get good energy with stuff everybody recognises and carry that into the front loaded (in terms of people knowing the songs if not necessarily quality) TJT section.

Once the TJT section reaches the latter part of its stretch it is likely a lot of the casuals will be losing interest a bit.....i caught some of the periscope feed tonight during OTH and Exit and it looked like a fair few people around where it was being filmed (reasonably close to front) were walking around, walking away, standing talking etc.....so after that and the great but a little 'esoteric' (for a stadium crowd) Miss Sarajevo it probably 'needs' the big dumb hits to end the show...so the likes of Vertigo, Elevation and BD being wheeled out is no shock.

It is also a pretty safe thing to say u2 aren't always great at just playing songs they haven't played a lot or in an age and it is probably a fair strain on their chops to get the rarer TJT songs played so adding in other lesser spotted beasts isn't likely - the safety of songs they can crank out with their eyes closed like Vertigo et al (and of course the crowd knowing and being up for) makes sense in this environment.

It was always going to be 'u2 for dummies' TJT their most well known album plus the hits....it works for the masses in enormodomes and it stays well within the bands compass to put on a show that will win over lapsed/casual fans who may then stick around/get back on the bus and is accessible for new fans.

For the diehards there is the new song - regardless of how good it is - but 3 of them isn't going to go down as well with all the above considered as the 3 big 00's hits or kicking off with the big 80's hits.

Yes they are boring and overplayed in the eyes of a lot of the fans who are close to the band but to average joe those songs well they are u2 aren't they, they are the songs that people associate with u2.

So it is what it is and to be fair it sounds like they have been doing ok.....
Title: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Vertigo144 on July 08, 2017, 07:31:49 PM
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I found this Billy Joel interview on Reddit and he talks about how at each of his shows, the seats in the first couple of rows are reserved for upgrades from the nosebleeds. He got tired of seeing rich people in the front row of all of his shows, so this is his way of getting real fans to the front.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/5893751/billy-joel-exclusive-backstage-cover-story-interview-qa-madison-square-garden

Obviously U2 hasn't had floor seats in years, but it would be nice if they could do something similar.

Yes and no, people pay for GA to have the chance to be upfront. If they're going to do that, then u2 should go back to seats on the floor. I noticed they are upgrading people to redzone though for tonight's show

Really? Where did you hear that?  Is it random?
I was one of those lucky people at a Billy Joel concert and eons ago at an Elton John concert.  Nosebleed seats and ended up front center.


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Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Hawkmoon2e on July 09, 2017, 12:58:41 AM
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We all know you'll be there.

Have to admit finger was hovering over the browser a few mins ago as the standing tickets for tomorrow have now landed on the RFU website.....
Oh, just go! PLEASE??? (They did Elevation tonight just for you, and you weren't there!)

I've just taken the plunge.....makes me laugh - standing ticket £70 plus £8.25 'fees'.....charging people nearly a tenner in fees for a ticket purchased less than 24 hours before the show that will of course be collected at venue so isn't even postage - what a racket.
To quote a dear friend of mine, "This has made a grumpy old woman smile". I'm SO glad you're going...

It was likely i'd go in end....regardless of how uninspiring the setlist looks etc (i know why they are doing the hits) and TJT being an album i find 'ok' u2 usually put a good show on and they aren't going to be around forever....

End of day i've gone to every tour in my adult life and decided to keep that going.....its the old flame isn't it, it is still there!
I think once the U2 flame has been truly lit, it never goes out. I'm honestly glad that you're going...I think you may have regretted it had you not seen this tour.

I'm confident that an tha is going to enjoy the show tomorrow.  On paper the setlist might be a bit boring but in practice it animates the crowd and shows their wares as a powerful live band.  I am expecting to have a good time tomorrow myself  :)
You will both enjoy...you'll even enjoy Elevation! Glad you're both going.
(Hey, I'm such a silly, they could probably play Wild Honey for 2 hours and I'd still enjoy it!)

I think we’re having some technical difficulties on the forum tonight, because I swear that I just read that an tha’s taken the plunge. Then, there was the mention that the JT album went from a ‘meh’ album to an ‘okay’ album. This is either a forum software glitch, or dare I say growth? (Or maybe good drink tonight?)

But then the mention of periscope really blew my mind, and "Everything you know is wrong" kept running through my head.

So a big atta boy to an tha.
But if the forum completely implodes tonight, then I guess it was a glitch.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: riffraff on July 09, 2017, 04:28:13 AM
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We all know you'll be there.

Have to admit finger was hovering over the browser a few mins ago as the standing tickets for tomorrow have now landed on the RFU website.....
Oh, just go! PLEASE??? (They did Elevation tonight just for you, and you weren't there!)

I've just taken the plunge.....makes me laugh - standing ticket £70 plus £8.25 'fees'.....charging people nearly a tenner in fees for a ticket purchased less than 24 hours before the show that will of course be collected at venue so isn't even postage - what a racket.
To quote a dear friend of mine, "This has made a grumpy old woman smile". I'm SO glad you're going...

It was likely i'd go in end....regardless of how uninspiring the setlist looks etc (i know why they are doing the hits) and TJT being an album i find 'ok' u2 usually put a good show on and they aren't going to be around forever....

End of day i've gone to every tour in my adult life and decided to keep that going.....its the old flame isn't it, it is still there!
I think once the U2 flame has been truly lit, it never goes out. I'm honestly glad that you're going...I think you may have regretted it had you not seen this tour.

I'm confident that an tha is going to enjoy the show tomorrow.  On paper the setlist might be a bit boring but in practice it animates the crowd and shows their wares as a powerful live band.  I am expecting to have a good time tomorrow myself  :)
You will both enjoy...you'll even enjoy Elevation! Glad you're both going.
(Hey, I'm such a silly, they could probably play Wild Honey for 2 hours and I'd still enjoy it!)

I think we’re having some technical difficulties on the forum tonight, because I swear that I just read that an tha’s taken the plunge. Then, there was the mention that the JT album went from a ‘meh’ album to an ‘okay’ album. This is either a forum software glitch, or dare I say growth? (Or maybe good drink tonight?)

But then the mention of periscope really blew my mind, and "Everything you know is wrong" kept running through my head.

So a big atta boy to an tha.
But if the forum completely implodes tonight, then I guess it was a glitch.
Hawk, I'm reading your post at 3:25am...and laughing myself silly! Coffee is about to come out of my nose...this may be one of the best, most true posts I've ever read! Ya gotta love our an tha, yes?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: shineinthesummernight on July 09, 2017, 04:58:56 AM
Have a great time, An Tha!  Remember, lots of fist-pumping on your part, right?   8)  I'm glad you got to go. 
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 09, 2017, 05:22:32 AM
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We all know you'll be there.

Have to admit finger was hovering over the browser a few mins ago as the standing tickets for tomorrow have now landed on the RFU website.....
Oh, just go! PLEASE??? (They did Elevation tonight just for you, and you weren't there!)

I've just taken the plunge.....makes me laugh - standing ticket £70 plus £8.25 'fees'.....charging people nearly a tenner in fees for a ticket purchased less than 24 hours before the show that will of course be collected at venue so isn't even postage - what a racket.
To quote a dear friend of mine, "This has made a grumpy old woman smile". I'm SO glad you're going...

It was likely i'd go in end....regardless of how uninspiring the setlist looks etc (i know why they are doing the hits) and TJT being an album i find 'ok' u2 usually put a good show on and they aren't going to be around forever....

End of day i've gone to every tour in my adult life and decided to keep that going.....its the old flame isn't it, it is still there!
I think once the U2 flame has been truly lit, it never goes out. I'm honestly glad that you're going...I think you may have regretted it had you not seen this tour.

I'm confident that an tha is going to enjoy the show tomorrow.  On paper the setlist might be a bit boring but in practice it animates the crowd and shows their wares as a powerful live band.  I am expecting to have a good time tomorrow myself  :)
You will both enjoy...you'll even enjoy Elevation! Glad you're both going.
(Hey, I'm such a silly, they could probably play Wild Honey for 2 hours and I'd still enjoy it!)

I think we’re having some technical difficulties on the forum tonight, because I swear that I just read that an tha’s taken the plunge. Then, there was the mention that the JT album went from a ‘meh’ album to an ‘okay’ album. This is either a forum software glitch, or dare I say growth? (Or maybe good drink tonight?)

But then the mention of periscope really blew my mind, and "Everything you know is wrong" kept running through my head.

So a big atta boy to an tha.
But if the forum completely implodes tonight, then I guess it was a glitch.

I'll be honest with you, hawk (but don't tell anyone ok) i am only going because il_capo has promised to wear that velvet dress....
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 09, 2017, 05:23:25 AM
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Have a great time, An Tha!  Remember, lots of fist-pumping on your part, right?   8)  I'm glad you got to go.

Thanks..

Now where is that mole t-shirt
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: riffraff on July 09, 2017, 05:27:20 AM
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Have a great time, An Tha!  Remember, lots of fist-pumping on your part, right?   8)  I'm glad you got to go.

Thanks..

Now where is that mole t-shirt
Probably in a hole
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 09, 2017, 06:03:59 AM
Good photie of front rows last night within this...

https://mobile.twitter.com/U2/status/883787146544459776?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: kango on July 09, 2017, 06:31:24 AM
Nice shot of the official U2 fan queue management team there.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 09, 2017, 09:23:34 AM
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Have a great time, An Tha!  Remember, lots of fist-pumping on your part, right?   8)  I'm glad you got to go.

Thanks..

Now where is that mole t-shirt
Probably in a hole

Like you only have one mole in a hole t shirt...

On a serious note, am I correct in my understanding that the "list" was honored (honoured)  yesterday and today and people just lined up behind them? No drama?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Kmama07 on July 09, 2017, 08:08:12 PM
Just returned from vacation to read An Tha took the plunge?!?!?!?!?!?!
😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Looking forward to your review...
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Hawkmoon2e on July 10, 2017, 12:26:07 AM
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I think we’re having some technical difficulties on the forum tonight, because I swear that I just read that an tha’s taken the plunge. Then, there was the mention that the JT album went from a ‘meh’ album to an ‘okay’ album. This is either a forum software glitch, or dare I say growth? (Or maybe good drink tonight?)

But then the mention of periscope really blew my mind, and "Everything you know is wrong" kept running through my head.

So a big atta boy to an tha.
But if the forum completely implodes tonight, then I guess it was a glitch.
Hawk, I'm reading your post at 3:25am...and laughing myself silly! Coffee is about to come out of my nose...this may be one of the best, most true posts I've ever read! Ya gotta love our an tha, yes?

Yes. Sometimes I just want to squeeze him... I mean really squeeze.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: trevgreg on July 10, 2017, 05:26:55 AM
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Yes. Sometimes I just want to squeeze him... I mean really squeeze.

The question now is in "what way?" though... ;)
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: riffraff on July 10, 2017, 05:30:35 AM
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Yes. Sometimes I just want to squeeze him... I mean really squeeze.

The question now is in "what way?" though... ;)
Thanks for posting that, Trev...I was afraid to ask!  :D
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: trevgreg on July 10, 2017, 06:38:46 AM
Well, I'm a man of the people here, so...  :P
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: SDD3000 on July 10, 2017, 12:12:31 PM
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Good photie of front rows last night within this...

https://mobile.twitter.com/U2/status/883787146544459776?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Nice shot of the official U2 fan queue management team there.

That's me far left. Those guys to my side deserve medals for what they do. Great guys. Was a fantastic show, our faces say it all.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Synj on July 10, 2017, 01:33:52 PM
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Good photie of front rows last night within this...

https://mobile.twitter.com/U2/status/883787146544459776?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Nice shot of the official U2 fan queue management team there.

That's me far left. Those guys to my side deserve medals for what they do. Great guys. Was a fantastic show, our faces say it all.

Serious question: Why? What do they do that's deserving of a medal?

Not being snarky, curious to your thoughts.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: SDD3000 on July 10, 2017, 02:27:02 PM
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Good photie of front rows last night within this...

https://mobile.twitter.com/U2/status/883787146544459776?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Nice shot of the official U2 fan queue management team there.

That's me far left. Those guys to my side deserve medals for what they do. Great guys. Was a fantastic show, our faces say it all.

Serious question: Why? What do they do that's deserving of a medal?

Not being snarky, curious to your thoughts.
They handle the GA lines and make sure everyone is numbered and no one jumps in. They let security know, and let us all know what roughly the times are going to be. We are all wristbanded named and numbered. Its all about organisation. We were all at the venue for 6am. While I just stood about, they were making sure everything was running smooth. Its a long day. But as you can see with our faces.. its worth it.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Synj on July 10, 2017, 03:47:41 PM
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Good photie of front rows last night within this...

https://mobile.twitter.com/U2/status/883787146544459776?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Nice shot of the official U2 fan queue management team there.

That's me far left. Those guys to my side deserve medals for what they do. Great guys. Was a fantastic show, our faces say it all.

Serious question: Why? What do they do that's deserving of a medal?

Not being snarky, curious to your thoughts.
They handle the GA lines and make sure everyone is numbered and no one jumps in. They let security know, and let us all know what roughly the times are going to be. We are all wristbanded named and numbered. Its all about organisation. We were all at the venue for 6am. While I just stood about, they were making sure everything was running smooth. Its a long day. But as you can see with our faces.. its worth it.

I appreciate your honesty but I think your gratitude might be a little misplaced. I'm not trying to pick a fight but I just can't help but feel that the 'selflessness' of this act is not all that selfless. I've heard and read the 'doing it for the fans' argument and 'preventing chaos' but I just don't believe it.

1) if it's a selfless act, why are the same people rewarded over and over and over with the best location night after night after night?
2) if it's for the fans, why are so many fans so vocal against it?
3) why not let other people have that same experience? That same thrill?
4) why do the 'line organizers' refuse to understand that other people think the 'game is rigged'?
5) with the current 'line system' do you believe I or anyone that's not part of 'the clique' could ever hope to have those exact spots that are monopolized show after show after show by the same exact people? If so, how? How do I become #1-20? Who do I have to contact to make that happen?

It just all seems so disingenuous. We're doing this for safety. We're doing this for the fans. And in turn, we take the very best and most coveted spots for every show. It's only fair.

I wont pretend that I'm not envious. I would love to have those spots just once in my life. I would queue for a long time just to make it happen. But I can't help but fill like even if I could be within 10 feet of those spots, I can never be in those spots, because it's fixed. There is no chance for me to be #1-20. Correct me if I'm wrong. But even if I could, I'm not sure I could suspend the ethical conflict I have with imposing my will on 10,000 other paying ticket holders/fans.

This has all been beaten to death but I can't help but think of this gif when I look at that picture.

https://i.imgur.com/KnaUFmT.gifv (https://i.imgur.com/KnaUFmT.gifv)

They could be the best guys in the world, but their actions seem to go against the very ideals of fairness. They have literally become 1%ers, they get the very best, most coveted spots at a show they've seen or will see multiple times, from the very same, very best spots. Give another guy a shot, even if it's not me.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: SDD3000 on July 10, 2017, 04:41:28 PM
If people want those spots then all they have to do is what I do and turn up.. That's my only date I'm attending and that's where I ended up. Not everyone wants to be in line all day though and be there at 6am.. That's cool. But I wanted a good view and was willing to do so. Also I was number 113... Believe it or not.. not everybody wants to be dead centre. Some like the B stage or to stand if front of Adam..
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: shesarainbow on July 10, 2017, 04:52:25 PM
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Good photie of front rows last night within this...

https://mobile.twitter.com/U2/status/883787146544459776?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Nice shot of the official U2 fan queue management team there.

That's me far left. Those guys to my side deserve medals for what they do. Great guys. Was a fantastic show, our faces say it all.

Serious question: Why? What do they do that's deserving of a medal?

Not being snarky, curious to your thoughts.
They handle the GA lines and make sure everyone is numbered and no one jumps in. They let security know, and let us all know what roughly the times are going to be. We are all wristbanded named and numbered. Its all about organisation. We were all at the venue for 6am. While I just stood about, they were making sure everything was running smooth. Its a long day. But as you can see with our faces.. its worth it.

I appreciate your honesty but I think your gratitude might be a little misplaced. I'm not trying to pick a fight but I just can't help but feel that the 'selflessness' of this act is not all that selfless. I've heard and read the 'doing it for the fans' argument and 'preventing chaos' but I just don't believe it.

1) if it's a selfless act, why are the same people rewarded over and over and over with the best location night after night after night?
2) if it's for the fans, why are so many fans so vocal against it?
3) why not let other people have that same experience? That same thrill?
4) why do the 'line organizers' refuse to understand that other people think the 'game is rigged'?
5) with the current 'line system' do you believe I or anyone that's not part of 'the clique' could ever hope to have those exact spots that are monopolized show after show after show by the same exact people? If so, how? How do I become #1-20? Who do I have to contact to make that happen?

It just all seems so disingenuous. We're doing this for safety. We're doing this for the fans. And in turn, we take the very best and most coveted spots for every show. It's only fair.

I wont pretend that I'm not envious. I would love to have those spots just once in my life. I would queue for a long time just to make it happen. But I can't help but fill like even if I could be within 10 feet of those spots, I can never be in those spots, because it's fixed. There is no chance for me to be #1-20. Correct me if I'm wrong. But even if I could, I'm not sure I could suspend the ethical conflict I have with imposing my will on 10,000 other paying ticket holders/fans.

This has all been beaten to death but I can't help but think of this gif when I look at that picture.

https://i.imgur.com/KnaUFmT.gifv (https://i.imgur.com/KnaUFmT.gifv)

They could be the best guys in the world, but their actions seem to go against the very ideals of fairness. They have literally become 1%ers, they get the very best, most coveted spots at a show they've seen or will see multiple times, from the very same, very best spots. Give another guy a shot, even if it's not me.

It saddens me to say it but I agree with Synj's point of view. I have never met any of these line leaders but I too struggle with the idea that it's all done through pure altruism. I have been personally attacked on other forums by people in favour of fan run lines ... just for asking reasonable questions about the system. It leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

SDD3000 is right in that it is all about organisation and the Twickenham GA line was incredibly well managed. However, I think most of the credit for that should go the venue and crowd management.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Synj on July 10, 2017, 05:01:06 PM
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If people want those spots then all they have to do is what I do and turn up.. That's my only date I'm attending and that's where I ended up. Not everyone wants to be in line all day though and be there at 6am.. That's cool. But I wanted a good view and was willing to do so. Also I was number 113... Believe it or not.. not everybody wants to be dead centre. Some like the B stage or to stand if front of Adam..

Interesting. I have no reason to not believe you so it's encouraging to me that at #113 you were able to get that spot. I too would prefer to be in front of the B-stage. I've got 3 shows in which to try =)

In the picture there is a hand with the #2 right behind the Celtics fan and the guy that looks like he just took a blow to the head, maybe there was more going on here than we know LOL. Was your number the official wristband or the unofficial line? Was anyone that wasn't on the unofficial line displaced? I read somewhere that people that did not go onto the unofficial list were sent to the back. Could be hearsay.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: miryclay on July 10, 2017, 09:02:03 PM
I have met Vic from that pic and can attest he is of sound character and has good leadership qualities.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: trevgreg on July 11, 2017, 07:09:41 AM
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5) with the current 'line system' do you believe I or anyone that's not part of 'the clique' could ever hope to have those exact spots that are monopolized show after show after show by the same exact people? If so, how? How do I become #1-20? Who do I have to contact to make that happen?

Worth pointing out here…. in my most recent experiences with the GA line, the list was mostly started by people local to that area. And while I don’t object to the idea that some fans try to put themselves and their friends in a better position for some of the shows, I don’t think it’s literally the same people in the same positions for each show or the line itself. I know that I’ve been ahead of a few of the so-called ‘usual suspects’ during these last few times, so they didn’t have any access to a particular spot before I did.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: superblue on July 11, 2017, 07:57:22 AM
First post here, as I generally just hang about another forum, but SDD3000, you state "If people want those spots then all they have to do is what I do and turn up.. That's my only date I'm attending and that's where I ended up."  If that is you, on the far left of that photo with the black cowboy-ish hat, I am certain London was not your first date.  I saw you at NJ1 at the very least helping as being a line organizer.  I'm not commenting on the other aspects, but if you want the argument that's being stated as "We do it for the fans and organization" to be taken more seriously,  then don't try to support your argument with statements that aren't true.

Additionally, I have also met Vik (guy in the green/white stripes) and he's an all around good guy that is fair.  He knows the perception of how things are and really tries to keep it a fair system.  I listened to him discuss how a friend of his gave him a call and attempted to get a spot in line while he was traveling from another show (so yes, that sh** happens) and he told him to "f*** off" (and if you've spent any time talking with Vik, you know "f*** off" is part of his vocab).  His point to his friend is that if he ever did that, he would be being exactly what he knows some other line organizers are.  Vik is a straight up guy....no B.S. there.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Synj on July 11, 2017, 10:25:15 AM
I guess it's just like anything else in life, going to have people with integrity and people without.

I think the problem that most people have with the entire thing is the lack of oversight because it's not 'official' and there's not a consistent way in which to make it transparent.

It's a hard thing to trust when there's something to be gained by the people that manage the lists.

I'm honestly considering trying the list to judge for myself at a few upcoming shows. Not really fair to throw shade without any first hand knowledge...plus I want a good spot LOL!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: SDD3000 on July 11, 2017, 03:11:30 PM
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First post here, as I generally just hang about another forum, but SDD3000, you state "If people want those spots then all they have to do is what I do and turn up.. That's my only date I'm attending and that's where I ended up."  If that is you, on the far left of that photo with the black cowboy-ish hat, I am certain London was not your first date.  I saw you at NJ1 at the very least helping as being a line organizer.  I'm not commenting on the other aspects, but if you want the argument that's being stated as "We do it for the fans and organization" to be taken more seriously,  then don't try to support your argument with statements that aren't true.

Additionally, I have also met Vik (guy in the green/white stripes) and he's an all around good guy that is fair.  He knows the perception of how things are and really tries to keep it a fair system.  I listened to him discuss how a friend of his gave him a call and attempted to get a spot in line while he was traveling from another show (so yes, that sh** happens) and he told him to "f*** off" (and if you've spent any time talking with Vik, you know "f*** off" is part of his vocab).  His point to his friend is that if he ever did that, he would be being exactly what he knows some other line organizers are.  Vik is a straight up guy....no B.S. there.
I'm extremely sorry I meant far right. White t shirt. The guy next to me is Jez.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: d.darroch on July 11, 2017, 03:38:08 PM
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First post here, as I generally just hang about another forum, but SDD3000, you state "If people want those spots then all they have to do is what I do and turn up.. That's my only date I'm attending and that's where I ended up."  If that is you, on the far left of that photo with the black cowboy-ish hat, I am certain London was not your first date.  I saw you at NJ1 at the very least helping as being a line organizer.  I'm not commenting on the other aspects, but if you want the argument that's being stated as "We do it for the fans and organization" to be taken more seriously,  then don't try to support your argument with statements that aren't true.
The guy in the cowboy hat is Gregory. He also ran the line in Paris for i+e. Seems very nice, & hopefully fair.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: superblue on July 12, 2017, 07:28:48 AM
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I'm extremely sorry I meant far right. White t shirt. The guy next to me is Jez.

Makes more sense   :)
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on July 12, 2017, 11:39:07 AM
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5) with the current 'line system' do you believe I or anyone that's not part of 'the clique' could ever hope to have those exact spots that are monopolized show after show after show by the same exact people? If so, how? How do I become #1-20? Who do I have to contact to make that happen?

Worth pointing out here…. in my most recent experiences with the GA line, the list was mostly started by people local to that area. And while I don’t object to the idea that some fans try to put themselves and their friends in a better position for some of the shows, I don’t think it’s literally the same people in the same positions for each show or the line itself. I know that I’ve been ahead of a few of the so-called ‘usual suspects’ during these last few times, so they didn’t have any access to a particular spot before I did.

From what I've heard, if you try to start the line before them, they will keep pestering you until you agree to let them take control. Once you agree, you will either be after them, or they will agree to let you be first. Their friends then come after you in line order
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: trevgreg on July 12, 2017, 07:14:18 PM
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From what I've heard, if you try to start the line before them, they will keep pestering you until you agree to let them take control. Once you agree, you will either be after them, or they will agree to let you be first. Their friends then come after you in line order

Well like I said, I'm not disputing that this might still happen at some shows. But if it was the norm before these recent tours, it seems to have settled down a bit in recent years (imo). I know for a fact that some GA lines I was personally a part of were started by people who weren't apart of this or any other traveling contingent (but probably saw how other shows did it in the past and took it up on their own). And at shows like the first Chicago show last month, I was actually ahead of some people who've been pointed out as people who support these things and are known for being up front at shows. So if there's a way like you mentioned, I don't think it's an "every show" thing anymore, assuming it ever was.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
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Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on July 14, 2017, 09:10:47 AM
Hey! Guess what!!! Rome is actually doing a real queue! And there's absolutely no complaints or issues happening! https://mobile.twitter.com/sbacio/status/885861591912247296
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 15, 2017, 02:12:15 PM
I just saw on Facebook that the list with check in times has started for Barcelona, I think 3 days in advance? So much for "Europe won't stand for the list" arguememt, I guess.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Rising on July 16, 2017, 01:55:13 PM
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I just saw on Facebook that the list with check in times has started for Barcelona, I think 3 days in advance? So much for "Europe won't stand for the list" arguememt, I guess.

Hi, Is it sure there is going to be an area, other than the red zone, in front of stage only to be accessed with wristbands?

Did it work this way in Berlin and Rome?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: il_capo on July 16, 2017, 02:12:52 PM
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I just saw on Facebook that the list with check in times has started for Barcelona, I think 3 days in advance? So much for "Europe won't stand for the list" arguememt, I guess.

Hi, Is it sure there is going to be an area, other than the red zone, in front of stage only to be accessed with wristbands?

Did it work this way in Berlin and Rome?

There is no pitch segregation on this tour, except for the Red Zone.  You may get given a wristband to prove you have a standing ticket (this happened in London) but on this tour there is no section at the front for those who get there early. 
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Rising on July 16, 2017, 02:31:59 PM
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I just saw on Facebook that the list with check in times has started for Barcelona, I think 3 days in advance? So much for "Europe won't stand for the list" arguememt, I guess.

Hi, Is it sure there is going to be an area, other than the red zone, in front of stage only to be accessed with wristbands?

Did it work this way in Berlin and Rome?

There is no pitch segregation on this tour, except for the Red Zone.  You may get given a wristband to prove you have a standing ticket (this happened in London) but on this tour there is no section at the front for those who get there early.

Thanks Capo.

There is a Berlin video from YouTube that makes me doubt......At second number 9 we may notice a break in the GA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svJN2e16ULU


Again very clear at minute 19:18
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 16, 2017, 04:07:08 PM
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I just saw on Facebook that the list with check in times has started for Barcelona, I think 3 days in advance? So much for "Europe won't stand for the list" arguememt, I guess.

Hi, Is it sure there is going to be an area, other than the red zone, in front of stage only to be accessed with wristbands?

Did it work this way in Berlin and Rome?

There is no pitch segregation on this tour, except for the Red Zone.  You may get given a wristband to prove you have a standing ticket (this happened in London) but on this tour there is no section at the front for those who get there early.

Thanks Capo.

There is a Berlin video from YouTube that makes me doubt......At second number 9 we may notice a break in the GA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svJN2e16ULU


Again very clear at minute 19:18

I think Berlin did have a barrier between the area closest to stage and the part farther back. The first people in line got to go in the front part, I believe. Dublin also has a similar set up, but there those who bought pitch 2 tickets are closer to the stage , with pitch 1 further away.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Rising on July 16, 2017, 05:07:04 PM
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I just saw on Facebook that the list with check in times has started for Barcelona, I think 3 days in advance? So much for "Europe won't stand for the list" arguememt, I guess.

Hi, Is it sure there is going to be an area, other than the red zone, in front of stage only to be accessed with wristbands?

Did it work this way in Berlin and Rome?

There is no pitch segregation on this tour, except for the Red Zone.  You may get given a wristband to prove you have a standing ticket (this happened in London) but on this tour there is no section at the front for those who get there early.

Thanks Capo.

There is a Berlin video from YouTube that makes me doubt......At second number 9 we may notice a break in the GA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svJN2e16ULU


Again very clear at minute 19:18

I think Berlin did have a barrier between the area closest to stage and the part farther back. The first people in line got to go in the front part, I believe. Dublin also has a similar set up, but there those who bought pitch 2 tickets are closer to the stage , with pitch 1 further away.

Thank you Lorijane!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 16, 2017, 06:23:21 PM
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I just saw on Facebook that the list with check in times has started for Barcelona, I think 3 days in advance? So much for "Europe won't stand for the list" arguememt, I guess.

Hi, Is it sure there is going to be an area, other than the red zone, in front of stage only to be accessed with wristbands?

Did it work this way in Berlin and Rome?

There is no pitch segregation on this tour, except for the Red Zone.  You may get given a wristband to prove you have a standing ticket (this happened in London) but on this tour there is no section at the front for those who get there early.

Thanks Capo.

There is a Berlin video from YouTube that makes me doubt......At second number 9 we may notice a break in the GA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svJN2e16ULU


Again very clear at minute 19:18

I think Berlin did have a barrier between the area closest to stage and the part farther back. The first people in line got to go in the front part, I believe. Dublin also has a similar set up, but there those who bought pitch 2 tickets are closer to the stage , with pitch 1 further away.

Thank you Lorijane!

You're welcome! This is just based on what people have posted on social media, but I think it's accurate. The rest of the shows seem to just be one big GA area.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on July 16, 2017, 07:36:54 PM
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I just saw on Facebook that the list with check in times has started for Barcelona, I think 3 days in advance? So much for "Europe won't stand for the list" arguememt, I guess.

Hi, Is it sure there is going to be an area, other than the red zone, in front of stage only to be accessed with wristbands?

Did it work this way in Berlin and Rome?

There is no pitch segregation on this tour, except for the Red Zone.  You may get given a wristband to prove you have a standing ticket (this happened in London) but on this tour there is no section at the front for those who get there early.

Thanks Capo.

There is a Berlin video from YouTube that makes me doubt......At second number 9 we may notice a break in the GA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svJN2e16ULU


Again very clear at minute 19:18

I think Berlin did have a barrier between the area closest to stage and the part farther back. The first people in line got to go in the front part, I believe. Dublin also has a similar set up, but there those who bought pitch 2 tickets are closer to the stage , with pitch 1 further away.

I wonder if anyone mistakenly bought pitch 1 thinking it would be closer
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 16, 2017, 10:14:11 PM
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I just saw on Facebook that the list with check in times has started for Barcelona, I think 3 days in advance? So much for "Europe won't stand for the list" arguememt, I guess.

Hi, Is it sure there is going to be an area, other than the red zone, in front of stage only to be accessed with wristbands?

Did it work this way in Berlin and Rome?

There is no pitch segregation on this tour, except for the Red Zone.  You may get given a wristband to prove you have a standing ticket (this happened in London) but on this tour there is no section at the front for those who get there early.

Thanks Capo.

There is a Berlin video from YouTube that makes me doubt......At second number 9 we may notice a break in the GA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svJN2e16ULU


Again very clear at minute 19:18

I think Berlin did have a barrier between the area closest to stage and the part farther back. The first people in line got to go in the front part, I believe. Dublin also has a similar set up, but there those who bought pitch 2 tickets are closer to the stage , with pitch 1 further away.

I wonder if anyone mistakenly bought pitch 1 thinking it would be closer

I remember seeing a lot of angst on social media about which to buy, I don't think the venue was clear on which was which. Although I also remember pitch 2 selling out so quickly that a lot of people didn't have a choice between them anyway.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: rizonbaby on July 17, 2017, 09:19:47 AM
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Good photie of front rows last night within this...

https://mobile.twitter.com/U2/status/883787146544459776?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Nice shot of the official U2 fan queue management team there.

That's me far left. Those guys to my side deserve medals for what they do. Great guys. Was a fantastic show, our faces say it all.

Serious question: Why? What do they do that's deserving of a medal?

Not being snarky, curious to your thoughts.
They handle the GA lines and make sure everyone is numbered and no one jumps in. They let security know, and let us all know what roughly the times are going to be. We are all wristbanded named and numbered. Its all about organisation. We were all at the venue for 6am. While I just stood about, they were making sure everything was running smooth. Its a long day. But as you can see with our faces.. its worth it.

I appreciate your honesty but I think your gratitude might be a little misplaced. I'm not trying to pick a fight but I just can't help but feel that the 'selflessness' of this act is not all that selfless. I've heard and read the 'doing it for the fans' argument and 'preventing chaos' but I just don't believe it.

1) if it's a selfless act, why are the same people rewarded over and over and over with the best location night after night after night?
2) if it's for the fans, why are so many fans so vocal against it?
3) why not let other people have that same experience? That same thrill?
4) why do the 'line organizers' refuse to understand that other people think the 'game is rigged'?
5) with the current 'line system' do you believe I or anyone that's not part of 'the clique' could ever hope to have those exact spots that are monopolized show after show after show by the same exact people? If so, how? How do I become #1-20? Who do I have to contact to make that happen?

It just all seems so disingenuous. We're doing this for safety. We're doing this for the fans. And in turn, we take the very best and most coveted spots for every show. It's only fair.

I wont pretend that I'm not envious. I would love to have those spots just once in my life. I would queue for a long time just to make it happen. But I can't help but fill like even if I could be within 10 feet of those spots, I can never be in those spots, because it's fixed. There is no chance for me to be #1-20. Correct me if I'm wrong. But even if I could, I'm not sure I could suspend the ethical conflict I have with imposing my will on 10,000 other paying ticket holders/fans.

This has all been beaten to death but I can't help but think of this gif when I look at that picture.

https://i.imgur.com/KnaUFmT.gifv (https://i.imgur.com/KnaUFmT.gifv)

They could be the best guys in the world, but their actions seem to go against the very ideals of fairness. They have literally become 1%ers, they get the very best, most coveted spots at a show they've seen or will see multiple times, from the very same, very best spots. Give another guy a shot, even if it's not me.

Jumping in here with a very rare post.

I speak only from my personal experience -- which is about 8 GA lines  -- all in various London venues, going back to 2001.

First a quick point about Vic - the fellow in the green and white hooped Celtic soccer jersey, already mentioned a few times.  I have met him at every London show I've attended since 2001 - he's always top 10 whenever I've seen him.  In my view he's just that dedicated and has put in the hours.  Sometimes overnight, sleeping outside the venue (Wembley 2009 comes to mind).  He's a decent guy, very experienced in running the GA lines and has generally been very fair and decent when it comes to the integrity of the line.  For example - he found someone who was hanging around on July 8 at Twickenham who wasn't attending London1 and encouraged him to run the line for July 9, London2.  He suggested to him to start the numbering at 10pm - while the London1 gig was still going on.  This way those who were attending London2 ONLY, would have first dibs to be at the front.  Seems very reasonable.  Vic, himself, was in the GA for London2, but admitted he was too tired to line up and said he would just hang back for the second show. 

After London 1, I didn't run to the sign-up spot for London2, but eventually got number 79.  I had 169 for London1, but as it happened ended up in EXACTLY the same spot for both shows - in front of Adam at the tree stage.

So in some respects the system is fair.  If you showed up early enough - found the guy who had the notebook at that time, you'd get the next number and your name in the book.

However it appeared to me that the system is ALSO rigged.  One guy who was in the top 10 for London1 ended up with number 8 for London2.  I find it impossible to believe that in the 40 minutes between 10pm (official start time for London2 GA) and when London1 ended (1040pm), he managed to get through 1000s of people standing behind him, get through the exit tunnel, through the concourse and back to the perimeter fencing and be number 8 for the next night.   Absolutely impossible that only 6 other people (line starter excluded) were around before him.

Was the line starter his buddy and countryman?  Yes. 

That individual, by the way, has attended EVERY SHOW so far (NA and Europe) and plans will attend all remaining European shows.

The system isn't 100% transparent and fair -- there's no doubt about it.  However, in my limited experience, if you show up early enough you'll get the top 20 spot you crave.  You just have to be have the strength of mind and character and be steadfast in the face of any B.S. that may come your way ...
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 17, 2017, 09:49:56 AM
Is it really worth all that agg?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Synj on July 17, 2017, 06:15:07 PM
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Good photie of front rows last night within this...

https://mobile.twitter.com/U2/status/883787146544459776?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Nice shot of the official U2 fan queue management team there.

That's me far left. Those guys to my side deserve medals for what they do. Great guys. Was a fantastic show, our faces say it all.

Serious question: Why? What do they do that's deserving of a medal?

Not being snarky, curious to your thoughts.
They handle the GA lines and make sure everyone is numbered and no one jumps in. They let security know, and let us all know what roughly the times are going to be. We are all wristbanded named and numbered. Its all about organisation. We were all at the venue for 6am. While I just stood about, they were making sure everything was running smooth. Its a long day. But as you can see with our faces.. its worth it.

I appreciate your honesty but I think your gratitude might be a little misplaced. I'm not trying to pick a fight but I just can't help but feel that the 'selflessness' of this act is not all that selfless. I've heard and read the 'doing it for the fans' argument and 'preventing chaos' but I just don't believe it.

1) if it's a selfless act, why are the same people rewarded over and over and over with the best location night after night after night?
2) if it's for the fans, why are so many fans so vocal against it?
3) why not let other people have that same experience? That same thrill?
4) why do the 'line organizers' refuse to understand that other people think the 'game is rigged'?
5) with the current 'line system' do you believe I or anyone that's not part of 'the clique' could ever hope to have those exact spots that are monopolized show after show after show by the same exact people? If so, how? How do I become #1-20? Who do I have to contact to make that happen?

It just all seems so disingenuous. We're doing this for safety. We're doing this for the fans. And in turn, we take the very best and most coveted spots for every show. It's only fair.

I wont pretend that I'm not envious. I would love to have those spots just once in my life. I would queue for a long time just to make it happen. But I can't help but fill like even if I could be within 10 feet of those spots, I can never be in those spots, because it's fixed. There is no chance for me to be #1-20. Correct me if I'm wrong. But even if I could, I'm not sure I could suspend the ethical conflict I have with imposing my will on 10,000 other paying ticket holders/fans.

This has all been beaten to death but I can't help but think of this gif when I look at that picture.

https://i.imgur.com/KnaUFmT.gifv (https://i.imgur.com/KnaUFmT.gifv)

They could be the best guys in the world, but their actions seem to go against the very ideals of fairness. They have literally become 1%ers, they get the very best, most coveted spots at a show they've seen or will see multiple times, from the very same, very best spots. Give another guy a shot, even if it's not me.

Jumping in here with a very rare post.

I speak only from my personal experience -- which is about 8 GA lines  -- all in various London venues, going back to 2001.

First a quick point about Vic - the fellow in the green and white hooped Celtic soccer jersey, already mentioned a few times.  I have met him at every London show I've attended since 2001 - he's always top 10 whenever I've seen him.  In my view he's just that dedicated and has put in the hours.  Sometimes overnight, sleeping outside the venue (Wembley 2009 comes to mind).  He's a decent guy, very experienced in running the GA lines and has generally been very fair and decent when it comes to the integrity of the line.  For example - he found someone who was hanging around on July 8 at Twickenham who wasn't attending London1 and encouraged him to run the line for July 9, London2.  He suggested to him to start the numbering at 10pm - while the London1 gig was still going on.  This way those who were attending London2 ONLY, would have first dibs to be at the front.  Seems very reasonable.  Vic, himself, was in the GA for London2, but admitted he was too tired to line up and said he would just hang back for the second show. 

After London 1, I didn't run to the sign-up spot for London2, but eventually got number 79.  I had 169 for London1, but as it happened ended up in EXACTLY the same spot for both shows - in front of Adam at the tree stage.

So in some respects the system is fair.  If you showed up early enough - found the guy who had the notebook at that time, you'd get the next number and your name in the book.

However it appeared to me that the system is ALSO rigged.  One guy who was in the top 10 for London1 ended up with number 8 for London2.  I find it impossible to believe that in the 40 minutes between 10pm (official start time for London2 GA) and when London1 ended (1040pm), he managed to get through 1000s of people standing behind him, get through the exit tunnel, through the concourse and back to the perimeter fencing and be number 8 for the next night.   Absolutely impossible that only 6 other people (line starter excluded) were around before him.

Was the line starter his buddy and countryman?  Yes. 

That individual, by the way, has attended EVERY SHOW so far (NA and Europe) and plans will attend all remaining European shows.

The system isn't 100% transparent and fair -- there's no doubt about it.  However, in my limited experience, if you show up early enough you'll get the top 20 spot you crave.  You just have to be have the strength of mind and character and be steadfast in the face of any B.S. that may come your way ...

Thanks for the feedback, hope you enjoyed the shows!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Synj on July 17, 2017, 06:17:56 PM
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Is it really worth all that agg?

Don't know if this was directed my way but I'll respond.

As an all the time thing? No way.

As a once in my life thing? Yeah, I'd like to have the "best" seat in the house to my favorite band once in my life.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 17, 2017, 11:59:44 PM
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Is it really worth all that agg?

Don't know if this was directed my way but I'll respond.

As an all the time thing? No way.

As a once in my life thing? Yeah, I'd like to have the "best" seat in the house to my favorite band once in my life.

It was a general question aimed at the people who go through/do all this queueing - so interested in anyones views on it who do.

It looks to me as if it isn't really the best seat in the house though....it looks horribly crowded, how do you get off to the toilet/get a beer?

The stages are really high - you must spend most of the gig craning your neck?

The hours and hours of being stuck out in a queue looks and sounds horrible to me.

I wandered down to the front albeit right off to the side stage right looking at it at Twickenham (this was literally ten mins before gig began) and the closer i got the less i felt i could 'take in' of what was in front of me......as i wandered back to my spot just in front of the desk i looked back at the 'view' and to me it seemed better the closer i got to my spot.

Of course it is different for everybody but it just looks like it isn't all that to me.....So i am interested to know what it is that the people who do it find so good about it and to try and get a feel for just how much 'work' it involves - how many actual hours are spent in the queue etc...how many hours you are stuck on a rail in stadium once it opens etc...and how that balances with the 'experience'.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Aprilshack on July 18, 2017, 12:27:29 AM
I am wondering what to do for Amsterdam next Saturday. At the end of the day you get early, put the effort in,stay in line and run like hell to get a decent spot. No numbers on hands.I understand someone keeping your place in line to nip to the loo/get something to eat, but bugger off all day? No.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on July 18, 2017, 12:33:35 AM
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I am wondering what to do for Amsterdam next Saturday. At the end of the day you get early, put the effort in,stay in line and run like hell to get a decent spot. No numbers on hands.I understand someone keeping your place in line to nip to the loo/get something to eat, but bugger off all day? No.

Some of the venues are doing single file lines when you enter the stadium, so there hasn't always been a rush this tour
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Aprilshack on July 18, 2017, 01:08:51 AM
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I am wondering what to do for Amsterdam next Saturday. At the end of the day you get early, put the effort in,stay in line and run like hell to get a decent spot. No numbers on hands.I understand someone keeping your place in line to nip to the loo/get something to eat, but bugger off all day? No.

Some of the venues are doing single file lines when you enter the stadium, so there hasn't always been a rush this tour

Okay, thanks.

Has anyone any experience with GA in Amsterdam? Is the tree part of the stage lower than the main stage?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Catlithco on July 18, 2017, 01:13:34 AM
Yes, Berlin did have a barrier, and those who were under the first 1.000 got a wristband from Live Nation and were allowed to enter the GA area earlier than the rest of the GA area audience.

Does anybody know how the GA number list will work in Dublin? As far as I know it is not allowed to Queue around the Croker. I guess the people will chased by Gardai or security? Any here who has been at the Croker at an earlier tour?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Aprilshack on July 18, 2017, 01:27:15 AM
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Yes, Berlin did have a barrier, and those who were under the first 1.000 got a wristband from Live Nation and were allowed to enter the GA area earlier than the rest of the GA area audience.

Does anybody know how the GA number list will work in Dublin? As far as I know it is not allowed to Queue around the Croker. I guess the people will chased by Gardai or security? Any here who has been at the Croker at an earlier tour?

That Berlin idea isn't a bad one.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Catlithco on July 18, 2017, 02:08:15 AM
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That Berlin idea isn't a bad one.

For me it was as I had a chance to get to the 2nd row at the B-stage. I could arrive the day of the concert only, but I was queuing from 10.30 on, so I had no. 401 on my wristband. There is an enormous capacity along the stages and the "catwalk", as it's all very huge. I think there can be like 500 People in the first row.

But any idea about Dublin?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Aprilshack on July 18, 2017, 02:40:48 AM
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That Berlin idea isn't a bad one.

Is the tree stage as high as the main stage?

For me it was as I had a chance to get to the 2nd row at the B-stage. I could arrive the day of the concert only, but I was queuing from 10.30 on, so I had no. 401 on my wristband. There is an enormous capacity along the stages and the "catwalk", as it's all very huge. I think there can be like 500 People in the first row.

But any idea about Dublin?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Catlithco on July 18, 2017, 03:10:17 AM
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Is the tree stage as high as the main stage?

No. The main stage is very high, also the one half of the catwalk. The catwalk is sloping, as you can see in videos and pictures, and it's getting lower to B-stage level, and the B-stage has a very good height to stand and see everything, (even for me...and I'm "Bono-sized" ;D )
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Aprilshack on July 18, 2017, 03:36:22 AM
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Is the tree stage as high as the main stage?

So the end of the b stage seems best? Might go for that if so.

No. The main stage is very high, also the one half of the catwalk. The catwalk is sloping, as you can see in videos and pictures, and it's getting lower to B-stage level, and the B-stage has a very good height to stand and see everything, (even for me...and I'm "Bono-sized" ;D )
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Catlithco on July 18, 2017, 03:54:47 AM
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So the end of the b stage seems best? Might go for that if so.

For me definitely, as you are very close to them when they play the pre JT songs, and after the Jt songs. You can watch JT from the distance, have a full view to the visuals.
But others might have an other opinion.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: trevgreg on July 18, 2017, 05:16:03 AM
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It was a general question aimed at the people who go through/do all this queueing - so interested in anyones views on it who do.

It looks to me as if it isn't really the best seat in the house though....it looks horribly crowded, how do you get off to the toilet/get a beer?

The stages are really high - you must spend most of the gig craning your neck?

The hours and hours of being stuck out in a queue looks and sounds horrible to me.

I wandered down to the front albeit right off to the side stage right looking at it at Twickenham (this was literally ten mins before gig began) and the closer i got the less i felt i could 'take in' of what was in front of me......as i wandered back to my spot just in front of the desk i looked back at the 'view' and to me it seemed better the closer i got to my spot.

Of course it is different for everybody but it just looks like it isn't all that to me.....So i am interested to know what it is that the people who do it find so good about it and to try and get a feel for just how much 'work' it involves - how many actual hours are spent in the queue etc...how many hours you are stuck on a rail in stadium once it opens etc...and how that balances with the 'experience'.

To address a few of the points...

The "highly crowded" aspect doesn't really kick in until closer to show time, it at all. All shows are different though, depending on the act or who in particular is there, etc.Plus, if you're on the rail, it's nice to have a spot to literally lean on too if the situation calls for it.

Bathroom or drinks can vary. Some people can go without any of the stuff during the show at all, which certainly helps. I tend to find people are flexible anyway, and I think they sometimes send people down there offering drinks and whatever type of things too. It's not like everyone's a hermit down there or anything.

Re: stage heights.... if you're at the very front stage, then yeah, it might be a bit of looking up there (although I hear it's slightly less worse than 360). I went in when doors opened the second night of Chicago and managed to be 30 feet or so away from the front stage with plenty of room around me. Very good spot and didn't have to look up or whatever. The night before, I went to the b-stage, which is the last time I queued, and that was only about five feet off the ground. Fantastic place to see the first few songs as a result. Arena is kind of similar too.

The hours queueing... honestly, I've gotten used to it by this point, although I'm also experienced enough now to know it's not always necessary. That being said, it is a great way to meet people and talk to pass the time, or see old faces again and that sort of thing. So the camaraderie aspect of it is pretty cool. And in a lot of cases, you don't have to literally stay there all day. You can walk to get food or stretch your legs and that, so you're still able to get around somewhat.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Synj on July 18, 2017, 12:05:31 PM
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Is it really worth all that agg?

Don't know if this was directed my way but I'll respond.

As an all the time thing? No way.

As a once in my life thing? Yeah, I'd like to have the "best" seat in the house to my favorite band once in my life.

It was a general question aimed at the people who go through/do all this queueing - so interested in anyones views on it who do.

It looks to me as if it isn't really the best seat in the house though....it looks horribly crowded, how do you get off to the toilet/get a beer?

The stages are really high - you must spend most of the gig craning your neck?

The hours and hours of being stuck out in a queue looks and sounds horrible to me.

I wandered down to the front albeit right off to the side stage right looking at it at Twickenham (this was literally ten mins before gig began) and the closer i got the less i felt i could 'take in' of what was in front of me......as i wandered back to my spot just in front of the desk i looked back at the 'view' and to me it seemed better the closer i got to my spot.

Of course it is different for everybody but it just looks like it isn't all that to me.....So i am interested to know what it is that the people who do it find so good about it and to try and get a feel for just how much 'work' it involves - how many actual hours are spent in the queue etc...how many hours you are stuck on a rail in stadium once it opens etc...and how that balances with the 'experience'.

You're right, 'best' seat in the house is definitely subjective.

My ideal spot would be rail in front of the b-stage. Great place to start and end the show, much more intimate than the main stage, which I agree is too high to enjoy from the front. And during the JT set you are pretty central and can take in the entirety of the show/screen. I think there is definitely a sense of accomplishment that comes from having a coveted spot, and believe me I say that knowing that it sounds shallow, but it's the truth.

The bigger issue for me I think is boredom. Standing around all day sounds pretty terrible. Would much rather be hanging out at the bar, enjoying drinks, friends, etc.

All I know, is that once in my life, I want a front row spot and I'm going to try my best to make that happen. But I do have a hard time understanding how people do it show after show after show. To each their own.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Catlithco on July 18, 2017, 12:47:47 PM
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My ideal spot would be rail in front of the b-stage. Great place to start and end the show, much more intimate than the main stage, which I agree is too high to enjoy from the front. And during the JT set you are pretty central and can take in the entirety of the show/screen. I think there is definitely a sense of accomplishment that comes from having a coveted spot, and believe me I say that knowing that it sounds shallow, but it's the truth.

That's how it is. I was between B-stage and Main stage, and like 2nd/ 2nd 1/2 row close to B-stage:

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It was fine with me to see them from the distance on the main stage, because I had the full view to the complete screen with the visuals..instead of my iPhone camera  :)
But I was very close to the intimate B-stage. Unfortunately Bono was singing to the wrong direction  ;D
He came to my side, but only a few times and very short.
BTW: it looks further away than I actually was.

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The bigger issue for me I think is boredom. Standing around all day sounds pretty terrible. Would much rather be hanging out at the bar, enjoying drinks, friends, etc.


It was my first time standing for GA front row, and it wasn't boring at all. You meet and talk to so many other people around you from all over the world. It was actually a very nice experience, the only thing I wouldn't miss was the rain. And you can leave GA line..if you talk to the people and if you're polite, then you can walk away for having lunch or a drink. I did it in Berlin, and I came back to the place where I started queuing. No problem!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: trevgreg on July 18, 2017, 01:15:51 PM
That was my view at the second Chicago show, basically, when I just walked into line 10 minutes before doors opened. Great spot!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on July 18, 2017, 02:48:32 PM
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That Berlin idea isn't a bad one.

For me it was as I had a chance to get to the 2nd row at the B-stage. I could arrive the day of the concert only, but I was queuing from 10.30 on, so I had no. 401 on my wristband. There is an enormous capacity along the stages and the "catwalk", as it's all very huge. I think there can be like 500 People in the first row.

But any idea about Dublin?

That doesn't sound right. The 200s at the rose bowl did not get rail
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Synj on July 18, 2017, 04:04:57 PM
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My ideal spot would be rail in front of the b-stage. Great place to start and end the show, much more intimate than the main stage, which I agree is too high to enjoy from the front. And during the JT set you are pretty central and can take in the entirety of the show/screen. I think there is definitely a sense of accomplishment that comes from having a coveted spot, and believe me I say that knowing that it sounds shallow, but it's the truth.

That's how it is. I was between B-stage and Main stage, and like 2nd/ 2nd 1/2 row close to B-stage:

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It was fine with me to see them from the distance on the main stage, because I had the full view to the complete screen with the visuals..instead of my iPhone camera  :)
But I was very close to the intimate B-stage. Unfortunately Bono was singing to the wrong direction  ;D
He came to my side, but only a few times and very short.
BTW: it looks further away than I actually was.

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The bigger issue for me I think is boredom. Standing around all day sounds pretty terrible. Would much rather be hanging out at the bar, enjoying drinks, friends, etc.


It was my first time standing for GA front row, and it wasn't boring at all. You meet and talk to so many other people around you from all over the world. It was actually a very nice experience, the only thing I wouldn't miss was the rain. And you can leave GA line..if you talk to the people and if you're polite, then you can walk away for having lunch or a drink. I did it in Berlin, and I came back to the place where I started queuing. No problem!

That looks like a great spot. That's my plan B spot if I can't get front of b-stage.

Had a forum buddy tell me he was 2nd row in front of Bono's mic main stage and he loved it, but he would have preferred to actually be 4-5 rows back. His argument is that 75% of the show is the main stage...again, there's that subjective 'best' seat in the house discussion.

I know that no matter where I end up, I'll enjoy the show. But there's this nagging insecurity that tells me I'll love it even more if I get a great spot =)

Once that fever takes hold, it's hard to shake LOL!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Synj on July 18, 2017, 04:08:56 PM
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That was my view at the second Chicago show, basically, when I just walked into line 10 minutes before doors opened. Great spot!

I have 3 more shows that I'm attending.

Detroit, Phoenix, San Diego.

I'm going to test my luck at Detroit and just show up a little before doors and see how it goes.

Phoenix is home, so if there's a queue/check in, I'm going to go for it. The only thing that could change that is if I can scratch that itch in Detroit and find that I'm able to do the same thing you did in Chicago.

San Diego is RZ, so IDGAF what time I get there, which is I think the best of both worlds =)
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: trevgreg on July 18, 2017, 04:27:45 PM
Cool cool. Yeah, I'm doing Minneapolis in the fall (hometown gig too), so I'm debating whether to line up for that or do it like I did for the second Chicago show. I lined up for the first Chicago one and had a great view from the b-stage rail, but we'll see what I end up doing. I'll probably have a few friends lining up for Minneapolis anyway, so maybe I'll get talked into it somehow!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on July 18, 2017, 05:22:08 PM
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That was my view at the second Chicago show, basically, when I just walked into line 10 minutes before doors opened. Great spot!

I have 3 more shows that I'm attending.

Detroit, Phoenix, San Diego.

I'm going to test my luck at Detroit and just show up a little before doors and see how it goes.

Phoenix is home, so if there's a queue/check in, I'm going to go for it. The only thing that could change that is if I can scratch that itch in Detroit and find that I'm able to do the same thing you did in Chicago.

San Diego is RZ, so IDGAF what time I get there, which is I think the best of both worlds =)

Just FYI, check ins and lists are being done by fans for RZ. Sometimes it can get really packed
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Synj on July 18, 2017, 07:32:45 PM
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That was my view at the second Chicago show, basically, when I just walked into line 10 minutes before doors opened. Great spot!

I have 3 more shows that I'm attending.

Detroit, Phoenix, San Diego.

I'm going to test my luck at Detroit and just show up a little before doors and see how it goes.

Phoenix is home, so if there's a queue/check in, I'm going to go for it. The only thing that could change that is if I can scratch that itch in Detroit and find that I'm able to do the same thing you did in Chicago.

San Diego is RZ, so IDGAF what time I get there, which is I think the best of both worlds =)

Just FYI, check ins and lists are being done by fans for RZ. Sometimes it can get really packed

Thanks for the heads up but I have no intention of queuing for RZ. Hanging out with my family and best friend in San Diego. Want to spend as little time as possible standing in a line especially considering I'll be doing the exact opposite just three days before that.

Queuing for RZ seems...silly to me. Just do GA if you want to queue?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: threechords on July 19, 2017, 11:01:12 AM
Is there a "line" yet for Detroit?  I don't think they have released their procedure yet.  Maybe they told someone on phone?  If they wristband in AM, I am doing that.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: kseguin on July 20, 2017, 05:59:36 AM
It will be interesting to see how they do the "list" at Croke Park.

Official Tickemaster communiocation:

IMPORTANT: NO QUEUING ALLOWED PRIOR TO GATES OPENING
NO overnight / early queuing allowed before the concerts.
If patrons do turn up they will be turned away at restricted area points around the Stadium. Queuing in streets around the Stadium will cause disruption to local residents and we appeal to patrons to heed this advice and respect the community living in the vicinity of the stadium.
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Post by: cocamojoe on July 20, 2017, 11:36:43 AM
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It will be interesting to see how they do the "list" at Croke Park.

Official Tickemaster communiocation:

IMPORTANT: NO QUEUING ALLOWED PRIOR TO GATES OPENING
NO overnight / early queuing allowed before the concerts.
If patrons do turn up they will be turned away at restricted area points around the Stadium. Queuing in streets around the Stadium will cause disruption to local residents and we appeal to patrons to heed this advice and respect the community living in the vicinity of the stadium.

According this twitter posting, the Dublin "line" is already started: https://mobile.twitter.com/Shaaakeitsalome/status/887824943651663874
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Starman on July 21, 2017, 09:48:28 AM
Seriously? People would rather spend their time in Dublin, the city that the BAND IS FROM, sitting on a bench with a fake list instead of seeing the city?!?! Unbelievable.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: kseguin on July 21, 2017, 10:11:49 AM
Agreed.  Spend a lot of money travelling to sit on a bench, go see Dublin.  Went to the Little Museum of Dublin and Jameson Distillery today!!!!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: WhiteFanU2 on July 22, 2017, 11:41:22 AM
They can always return and see the city anytime but they never can see the JT30 from the FOS area in Dublin!!!  :-*
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Post by: jenniferh aka jen on July 22, 2017, 02:19:59 PM
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Agreed.  Spend a lot of money travelling to sit on a bench, go see Dublin.  Went to the Little Museum of Dublin and Jameson Distillery today!!!!

Yay!!!  I didn't get a chance to go to Jameson when I was there in March. Got to the Little Museum and Guinness Storehouse though.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Aprilshack on July 23, 2017, 04:00:47 AM
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They can always return and see the city anytime but they never can see the JT30 from the FOS area in Dublin!!!  :-*

Very true.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: U2Fan on July 28, 2017, 07:41:47 AM
Thank you Matt for the article about how the GA line process needs to be changed and supervised by the band personnel.  The Springsteen process sounds much better than the current nonsense.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Ginapier@msn.com on July 29, 2017, 07:57:50 AM
I have only read through the first few pages of this post and I'm nauseous. Ive just spent a small fortune to fly from New York to St. Louis for the show on 9/16. I have a ga ticket and at 46 years old I do not have it in me to deal with the bulls*#t! I am willing to put my time in on line but if there is an unofficial list.... no one knows how these things even work?!

Yes I'd like to sleep in the hotel bed that I'm paying for. Yes I'd like to be a tourist in a city I've never been to before...but now I have to stress about camping in a ga line?

I'm too old for this crap!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 29, 2017, 09:02:55 AM
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I have only read through the first few pages of this post and I'm nauseous. Ive just spent a small fortune to fly from New York to St. Louis for the show on 9/16. I have a ga ticket and at 46 years old I do not have it in me to deal with the bulls*#t! I am willing to put my time in on line but if there is an unofficial list.... no one knows how these things even work?!

Yes I'd like to sleep in the hotel bed that I'm paying for. Yes I'd like to be a tourist in a city I've never been to before...but now I have to stress about camping in a ga line?

I'm too old for this crap!

Don't bother you can stroll in when the support act starts (or even later) and get a perfectly good spot...pretty close up of you want.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Kmama07 on July 29, 2017, 10:25:54 AM
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I have only read through the first few pages of this post and I'm nauseous. Ive just spent a small fortune to fly from New York to St. Louis for the show on 9/16. I have a ga ticket and at 46 years old I do not have it in me to deal with the bulls*#t! I am willing to put my time in on line but if there is an unofficial list.... no one knows how these things even work?!

Yes I'd like to sleep in the hotel bed that I'm paying for. Yes I'd like to be a tourist in a city I've never been to before...but now I have to stress about camping in a ga line?

I'm too old for this crap!

Don't bother you can stroll in when the support act starts (or even later) and get a perfectly good spot...pretty close up of you want.
Agreed. Also agree with Matt's article about the process being taken over much in the same way as Springsteen's
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on July 29, 2017, 11:28:33 AM
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I have only read through the first few pages of this post and I'm nauseous. Ive just spent a small fortune to fly from New York to St. Louis for the show on 9/16. I have a ga ticket and at 46 years old I do not have it in me to deal with the bulls*#t! I am willing to put my time in on line but if there is an unofficial list.... no one knows how these things even work?!

Yes I'd like to sleep in the hotel bed that I'm paying for. Yes I'd like to be a tourist in a city I've never been to before...but now I have to stress about camping in a ga line?

I'm too old for this crap!

Here's what I would do. Go have your fun. Don't stress. Get in line around 4 PM.
You won't have good rail or be anywhere where the and will notice you. But you'll have a great view regardless.

If you're serious about getting close, don't do the list. It's time to end it. Show up on showday around 4 AM. And refuse to leave unless venue security tells you to. The list people will show up around 5-6 AM get pi**ed and threaten you. Hold your grounds. Since your show is an American show I can guarantee the venue will say they won't honor the lists beforehand. This gives you your chance to make your point to the venue the list is unfair and you got there before them. The venue will agree, let you keep your place, and have list people go after you.

But I warn you, this list people can get aggressive. No physical contact has been made yet. But certainly aggressive comments to people who have shown up showday before them. They may take pictures of you and try to shame you. Fight back, take pictures of them and share them. Many of the nutcases are already established here.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 29, 2017, 11:32:49 AM
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I have only read through the first few pages of this post and I'm nauseous. Ive just spent a small fortune to fly from New York to St. Louis for the show on 9/16. I have a ga ticket and at 46 years old I do not have it in me to deal with the bulls*#t! I am willing to put my time in on line but if there is an unofficial list.... no one knows how these things even work?!

Yes I'd like to sleep in the hotel bed that I'm paying for. Yes I'd like to be a tourist in a city I've never been to before...but now I have to stress about camping in a ga line?

I'm too old for this crap!

Don't bother you can stroll in when the support act starts (or even later) and get a perfectly good spot...pretty close up of you want.
Agreed. Also agree with Matt's article about the process being taken over much in the same way as Springsteen's

Article?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Kmama07 on July 29, 2017, 12:03:04 PM
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I have only read through the first few pages of this post and I'm nauseous. Ive just spent a small fortune to fly from New York to St. Louis for the show on 9/16. I have a ga ticket and at 46 years old I do not have it in me to deal with the bulls*#t! I am willing to put my time in on line but if there is an unofficial list.... no one knows how these things even work?!

Yes I'd like to sleep in the hotel bed that I'm paying for. Yes I'd like to be a tourist in a city I've never been to before...but now I have to stress about camping in a ga line?

I'm too old for this crap!

Don't bother you can stroll in when the support act starts (or even later) and get a perfectly good spot...pretty close up of you want.
Agreed. Also agree with Matt's article about the process being taken over much in the same way as Springsteen's

Article?
It's on the @U2 home page. I'm sorry, I tried to copy and paste but just got a blank page when I did that. Technologically impaired here....
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on July 29, 2017, 12:05:06 PM
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I have only read through the first few pages of this post and I'm nauseous. Ive just spent a small fortune to fly from New York to St. Louis for the show on 9/16. I have a ga ticket and at 46 years old I do not have it in me to deal with the bulls*#t! I am willing to put my time in on line but if there is an unofficial list.... no one knows how these things even work?!

Yes I'd like to sleep in the hotel bed that I'm paying for. Yes I'd like to be a tourist in a city I've never been to before...but now I have to stress about camping in a ga line?

I'm too old for this crap!

Don't bother you can stroll in when the support act starts (or even later) and get a perfectly good spot...pretty close up of you want.
Agreed. Also agree with Matt's article about the process being taken over much in the same way as Springsteen's

Article?

He identifies aspects of the issue and gives a plan
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: an tha on July 29, 2017, 12:19:07 PM
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I have only read through the first few pages of this post and I'm nauseous. Ive just spent a small fortune to fly from New York to St. Louis for the show on 9/16. I have a ga ticket and at 46 years old I do not have it in me to deal with the bulls*#t! I am willing to put my time in on line but if there is an unofficial list.... no one knows how these things even work?!

Yes I'd like to sleep in the hotel bed that I'm paying for. Yes I'd like to be a tourist in a city I've never been to before...but now I have to stress about camping in a ga line?

I'm too old for this crap!

Don't bother you can stroll in when the support act starts (or even later) and get a perfectly good spot...pretty close up of you want.
Agreed. Also agree with Matt's article about the process being taken over much in the same way as Springsteen's

Article?
It's on the @U2 home page. I'm sorry, I tried to copy and paste but just got a blank page when I did that. Technologically impaired here....

Ah right...i don't read that site.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on July 29, 2017, 01:47:30 PM
m2's article:

https://www.atu2.com/news/its-time-for-u2-to-take-over-its-own-ga-line.html
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Ginapier@msn.com on July 29, 2017, 09:55:19 PM
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I have only read through the first few pages of this post and I'm nauseous. Ive just spent a small fortune to fly from New York to St. Louis for the show on 9/16. I have a ga ticket and at 46 years old I do not have it in me to deal with the bulls*#t! I am willing to put my time in on line but if there is an unofficial list.... no one knows how these things even work?!

Yes I'd like to sleep in the hotel bed that I'm paying for. Yes I'd like to be a tourist in a city I've never been to before...but now I have to stress about camping in a ga line?

I'm too old for this crap!

Here's what I would do. Go have your fun. Don't stress. Get in line around 4 PM.
You won't have good rail or be anywhere where the and will notice you. But you'll have a great view regardless.

If you're serious about getting close, don't do the list. It's time to end it. Show up on showday around 4 AM. And refuse to leave unless venue security tells you to. The list people will show up around 5-6 AM get pi**ed and threaten you. Hold your grounds. Since your show is an American show I can guarantee the venue will say they won't honor the lists beforehand. This gives you your chance to make your point to the venue the list is unfair and you got there before them. The venue will agree, let you keep your place, and have list people go after you.

But I warn you, this list people can get aggressive. No physical contact has been made yet. But certainly aggressive comments to people who have shown up showday before them. They may take pictures of you and try to shame you. Fight back, take pictures of them and share them. Many of the nutcases are already established here.

Aggressive? There will be no fights...

I had redzone in New Jersey and had to stand in line for 8 hours for that! It was such a hot day...I ended up getting dehydrated and as Larry walked out on stage and the show was beginning i ended up on the ground...I made 4 songs and had to leave! I'm flying to St. Louis because I missed the show in jersey and while I couldn't snag redzone I intend to get a rail spot...hopefully

The more I read about this process the more upset I am getting... perhaps I'll have to pay even mor $$ for a redzone ticket from a reseller....
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on July 30, 2017, 12:02:47 AM
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I have only read through the first few pages of this post and I'm nauseous. Ive just spent a small fortune to fly from New York to St. Louis for the show on 9/16. I have a ga ticket and at 46 years old I do not have it in me to deal with the bulls*#t! I am willing to put my time in on line but if there is an unofficial list.... no one knows how these things even work?!

Yes I'd like to sleep in the hotel bed that I'm paying for. Yes I'd like to be a tourist in a city I've never been to before...but now I have to stress about camping in a ga line?

I'm too old for this crap!

Here's what I would do. Go have your fun. Don't stress. Get in line around 4 PM.
You won't have good rail or be anywhere where the and will notice you. But you'll have a great view regardless.

If you're serious about getting close, don't do the list. It's time to end it. Show up on showday around 4 AM. And refuse to leave unless venue security tells you to. The list people will show up around 5-6 AM get pi**ed and threaten you. Hold your grounds. Since your show is an American show I can guarantee the venue will say they won't honor the lists beforehand. This gives you your chance to make your point to the venue the list is unfair and you got there before them. The venue will agree, let you keep your place, and have list people go after you.

But I warn you, this list people can get aggressive. No physical contact has been made yet. But certainly aggressive comments to people who have shown up showday before them. They may take pictures of you and try to shame you. Fight back, take pictures of them and share them. Many of the nutcases are already established here.

Aggressive? There will be no fights...

I had redzone in New Jersey and had to stand in line for 8 hours for that! It was such a hot day...I ended up getting dehydrated and as Larry walked out on stage and the show was beginning i ended up on the ground...I made 4 songs and had to leave! I'm flying to St. Louis because I missed the show in jersey and while I couldn't snag redzone I intend to get a rail spot...hopefully

The more I read about this process the more upset I am getting... perhaps I'll have to pay even mor $$ for a redzone ticket from a reseller....

Physical altercations- no. But people have been verbal when it comes to list vs people who lined up. The list people shame those who follow venue procedures and post pictures of them in the Facebook groups. It's known.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Aprilshack on July 30, 2017, 12:19:36 AM
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Why did you line for red zone for 8 hrs? Thought the point of it wasn't to line up all day?
I have only read through the first few pages of this post and I'm nauseous. Ive just spent a small fortune to fly from New York to St. Louis for the show on 9/16. I have a ga ticket and at 46 years old I do not have it in me to deal with the bulls*#t! I am willing to put my time in on line but if there is an unofficial list.... no one knows how these things even work?!

Yes I'd like to sleep in the hotel bed that I'm paying for. Yes I'd like to be a tourist in a city I've never been to before...but now I have to stress about camping in a ga line?

I'm too old for this crap!

Here's what I would do. Go have your fun. Don't stress. Get in line around 4 PM.
You won't have good rail or be anywhere where the and will notice you. But you'll have a great view regardless.

If you're serious about getting close, don't do the list. It's time to end it. Show up on showday around 4 AM. And refuse to leave unless venue security tells you to. The list people will show up around 5-6 AM get pi**ed and threaten you. Hold your grounds. Since your show is an American show I can guarantee the venue will say they won't honor the lists beforehand. This gives you your chance to make your point to the venue the list is unfair and you got there before them. The venue will agree, let you keep your place, and have list people go after you.

But I warn you, this list people can get aggressive. No physical contact has been made yet. But certainly aggressive comments to people who have shown up showday before them. They may take pictures of you and try to shame you. Fight back, take pictures of them and share them. Many of the nutcases are already established here.

Aggressive? There will be no fights...

I had redzone in New Jersey and had to stand in line for 8 hours for that! It was such a hot day...I ended up getting dehydrated and as Larry walked out on stage and the show was beginning i ended up on the ground...I made 4 songs and had to leave! I'm flying to St. Louis because I missed the show in jersey and while I couldn't snag redzone I intend to get a rail spot...hopefully

The more I read about this process the more upset I am getting... perhaps I'll have to pay even mor $$ for a redzone ticket from a reseller....
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Ginapier@msn.com on July 30, 2017, 10:29:49 AM
I believe the question was why did I line up for 8 hours with red zone tickets? The answer... because even the red zone had list makers and by the time I arrived around noon I was #14! At noon!

I remwmber the good ol days over 30 years ago when I paid $12.50 for a ticket and didn't have to deal with this nonsense

Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on July 30, 2017, 10:34:16 AM
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I believe the question was why did I line up for 8 hours with red zone tickets? The answer... because even the red zone had list makers and by the time I arrived around noon I was #14! At noon!

I remwmber the good ol days over 30 years ago when I paid $12.50 for a ticket and didn't have to deal with this nonsense

Never before has it been like this. THe purpose of RZ is to arrive 2 hours beforehand and get good rail. This list thing has made it far more difficult with number reaching their 40-50's 2 hours beforehand
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Aprilshack on July 30, 2017, 10:42:55 AM
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I believe the question was why did I line up for 8 hours with red zone tickets? The answer... because even the red zone had list makers and by the time I arrived around noon I was #14! At noon!

I remwmber the good ol days over 30 years ago when I paid $12.50 for a ticket and didn't have to deal with this nonsense



I would of told them to F off! I wouldn't take that sh**e. Sorry but paying through the nose so you don't line up for hrs is one of the perks for having a RZ ticket. They aren't official RZ staff. I probably would of reported them to security/whomever is in charge of RZ, but it's up to you how long you want to queue & i can understand the numbers on hands to a degree with normal GA. I started queuing at 1pm & got to the RZ rail on the GA side last night. Plus it is how fast you can get to the rail when the doors open. Your numbers and roll calls go pear shaped then.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Ginapier@msn.com on July 30, 2017, 06:39:25 PM
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I believe the question was why did I line up for 8 hours with red zone tickets? The answer... because even the red zone had list makers and by the time I arrived around noon I was #14! At noon!

I remwmber the good ol days over 30 years ago when I paid $12.50 for a ticket and didn't have to deal with this nonsense



The red zone staff actually used the fan generated number system to line everyone up. First check in for tickets, then the line for security and once through security they actually enforced the numbers order before walking into the arena!

When you say it depends on how fast you can get in... what does that mean? Ar people sprinting to the rails?

I would of told them to F off! I wouldn't take that sh**e. Sorry but paying through the nose so you don't line up for hrs is one of the perks for having a RZ ticket. They aren't official RZ staff. I probably would of reported them to security/whomever is in charge of RZ, but it's up to you how long you want to queue & i can understand the numbers on hands to a degree with normal GA. I started queuing at 1pm & got to the RZ rail on the GA side last night. Plus it is how fast you can get to the rail when the doors open. Your numbers and roll calls go pear shaped then.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Aprilshack on July 31, 2017, 01:19:53 AM
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I believe the question was why did I line up for 8 hours with red zone tickets? The answer... because even the red zone had list makers and by the time I arrived around noon I was #14! At noon!

I remwmber the good ol days over 30 years ago when I paid $12.50 for a ticket and didn't have to deal with this nonsense



The red zone staff actually used the fan generated number system to line everyone up. First check in for tickets, then the line for security and once through security they actually enforced the numbers order before walking into the arena!

When you say it depends on how fast you can get in... what does that mean? Ar people sprinting to the rails?

I would of told them to F off! I wouldn't take that sh**e. Sorry but paying through the nose so you don't line up for hrs is one of the perks for having a RZ ticket. They aren't official RZ staff. I probably would of reported them to security/whomever is in charge of RZ, but it's up to you how long you want to queue & i can understand the numbers on hands to a degree with normal GA. I started queuing at 1pm & got to the RZ rail on the GA side last night. Plus it is how fast you can get to the rail when the doors open. Your numbers and roll calls go pear shaped then.

Yes, people sprint for the rail. When I got in to Amsterdam arena there were still good spots at the rz rail to be had. A waste of time lining up early there.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: julez728 on July 31, 2017, 08:22:52 AM
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I believe the question was why did I line up for 8 hours with red zone tickets? The answer... because even the red zone had list makers and by the time I arrived around noon I was #14! At noon!

I remwmber the good ol days over 30 years ago when I paid $12.50 for a ticket and didn't have to deal with this nonsense

Never before has it been like this. THe purpose of RZ is to arrive 2 hours beforehand and get good rail. This list thing has made it far more difficult with number reaching their 40-50's 2 hours beforehand

I did RZ for one of the shows and when I got there at 3:30, the fan list was in the 40s.  I didn't put my name on the list, but others did even when I told them it wasn't necessary.  I ended up being right by the tree stage with only one person in front of me.  If I had to do it again, I would probably get there later more around the time when the opening act gets on stage.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on July 31, 2017, 03:40:48 PM
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I believe the question was why did I line up for 8 hours with red zone tickets? The answer... because even the red zone had list makers and by the time I arrived around noon I was #14! At noon!

I remwmber the good ol days over 30 years ago when I paid $12.50 for a ticket and didn't have to deal with this nonsense



The red zone staff actually used the fan generated number system to line everyone up. First check in for tickets, then the line for security and once through security they actually enforced the numbers order before walking into the arena!

When you say it depends on how fast you can get in... what does that mean? Ar people sprinting to the rails?

I would of told them to F off! I wouldn't take that sh**e. Sorry but paying through the nose so you don't line up for hrs is one of the perks for having a RZ ticket. They aren't official RZ staff. I probably would of reported them to security/whomever is in charge of RZ, but it's up to you how long you want to queue & i can understand the numbers on hands to a degree with normal GA. I started queuing at 1pm & got to the RZ rail on the GA side last night. Plus it is how fast you can get to the rail when the doors open. Your numbers and roll calls go pear shaped then.

Yes, people sprint for the rail. When I got in to Amsterdam arena there were still good spots at the rz rail to be had. A waste of time lining up early there.

Not always. Line police made sure rose bowl staff would make us go in a single file line. If you went out of line or moved faster than walking,, you were kicked out
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Aprilshack on August 03, 2017, 08:31:32 AM
I am seriously thinking about red zone next tour. What are the chances they will play Manchester arena next year rather than just the o2? Won't be joining any list. I will get there when I feel like it  and if there are 100 people physically there in front so be it.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on August 03, 2017, 11:24:00 AM
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I am seriously thinking about red zone next tour. What are the chances they will play Manchester arena next year rather than just the o2? Won't be joining any list. I will get there when I feel like it  and if there are 100 people physically there in front so be it.

For next tour I don't recommend RZ. The arenas are so intimate and there was so much rail. People would arrive when the gates opened at be one person off the rail. RZ wasn't positioned on rail....
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Saint1322 on August 03, 2017, 01:45:35 PM
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I believe the question was why did I line up for 8 hours with red zone tickets? The answer... because even the red zone had list makers and by the time I arrived around noon I was #14! At noon!

I remwmber the good ol days over 30 years ago when I paid $12.50 for a ticket and didn't have to deal with this nonsense



I'm sorry ... Is there really that much of a difference between arriving for RZ at noon and arriving at 5 pm that it justifies roasting in the sun all afternoon? Honest question.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Saint1322 on August 03, 2017, 01:47:56 PM
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I am seriously thinking about red zone next tour. What are the chances they will play Manchester arena next year rather than just the o2? Won't be joining any list. I will get there when I feel like it  and if there are 100 people physically there in front so be it.

If they use the same setup for the next tour as they did for I+E, RZ would be a huge waste of money. If it is a different setup or a stadium (it won't be) tour, then I say go for it. But do NOT waste your money on RZ for a I+E setup. I got to a show at 5:30 p.m. with GA and was four deep on Edge's side, so close that Bono's water landed on me.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Aprilshack on August 03, 2017, 11:55:06 PM
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I am seriously thinking about red zone next tour. What are the chances they will play Manchester arena next year rather than just the o2? Won't be joining any list. I will get there when I feel like it  and if there are 100 people physically there in front so be it.

If they use the same setup for the next tour as they did for I+E, RZ would be a huge waste of money. If it is a different setup or a stadium (it won't be) tour, then I say go for it. But do NOT waste your money on RZ for a I+E setup. I got to a show at 5:30 p.m. with GA and was four deep on Edge's side, so close that Bono's water landed on me.

I had my back to the RZ rail on the I&E tour, but don't remember in the layout if there was an area that went against the main (not catwalk) stage. I am guessing by your reply there was not! Did they show the RZ set up to the stage on the I&E tour before the tickets went on sale? I don't remember.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Kim on August 04, 2017, 05:57:46 AM

There was a line for red zone in Brussels as well. Some lady, who calls herself "the biggest U2 fan", started a list at 6 in the morning. When we arrived in the afternoon there was an argument about that list. A guy who was waiting since 8 wasn't on the list because that woman went into town for hours. That guy told us that the first 20 names on the list were friends of the lady who started the list and weren't actually there to put their names on the list. I think it's a shame that people do that. She was verbally very strong and everyone followed her instructions. She said "if you don't cooperate you will be last in line". For red zone it was no need to use a list. Every one who showed up before Noel's act, had a good place.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Aprilshack on August 04, 2017, 11:30:39 AM
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There was a line for red zone in Brussels as well. Some lady, who calls herself "the biggest U2 fan", started a list at 6 in the morning. When we arrived in the afternoon there was an argument about that list. A guy who was waiting since 8 wasn't on the list because that woman went into town for hours. That guy told us that the first 20 names on the list were friends of the lady who started the list and weren't actually there to put their names on the list. I think it's a shame that people do that. She was verbally very strong and everyone followed her instructions. She said "if you don't cooperate you will be last in line". For red zone it was no need to use a list. Every one who showed up before Noel's act, had a good place.

I agree there doesn't need to be a list for RZ really, especially from people who think they are u2's biggest fan. I would ony follow official rules, not someone who has put themselves in charge.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: julez728 on August 16, 2017, 02:17:20 PM
The unofficial line is already being discussed for Indy and someone has already designated themselves line leader...an admin on the Indy concert FB page.  Sounds like it might start Friday morning Sept 8th...show is on Sept 10th.   ::)
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Ginapier@msn.com on August 17, 2017, 09:32:45 PM
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The unofficial line is already being discussed for Indy and someone has already designated themselves line leader...an admin on the Indy concert FB page.  Sounds like it might start Friday morning Sept 8th...show is on Sept 10th.   ::)

Ridiculous
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on August 22, 2017, 10:46:46 PM
The San Diego show I bought tickets for is a Friday show. People are already discussing starting a list at least on the Tuesday before, if not before then. And the guy posting about Tuesday says he needs help getting access to a resort to go golfing.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: julez728 on August 23, 2017, 06:39:01 AM
The line leader for Indy has already contacted the venue and the venue will recognize the unofficial list.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Ginapier@msn.com on August 23, 2017, 07:48:57 PM
I have GA for St. Louis. I'm flying in from NY in Friday night after work....don't even know how to find out who the line list holder is, where they will be or how any of that works. Not to mention a female in an unfamiliar city (downtown, and oh btw there is a travel advisory in St. Louis too ...) ...

GA should not be a stressful experience.

Ughhhhhh anyone selling a redzone ticket for St. Louis?
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on August 23, 2017, 08:02:34 PM
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I have GA for St. Louis. I'm flying in from NY in Friday night after work....don't even know how to find out who the line list holder is, where they will be or how any of that works. Not to mention a female in an unfamiliar city (downtown, and oh btw there is a travel advisory in St. Louis too ...) ...

GA should not be a stressful experience.

Ughhhhhh anyone selling a redzone ticket for St. Louis?

It really doesn't have to be stressful. That's the biggest gripe I have with the list, it stresses people out unnecessarily. Unless you absolutely MUST have rail, or just really want to do the list, it's not necessary. You can get a great spot lining up mid-afternoon! PLEASE don't stress! Enjoy!

As far as how do people find out about the list, mostly social media, like there is a Facebook group for the st Louis show and one for U2 GA information, so if you're on Facebook, join them. Also follow U2 groups (like @atU2) on twitter if you're on there. Otherwise, the line/list is usually somewhere near the venue, and if you don't go till morning of the show, at the venue.

Don't stress! :) ( Which is like my husband telling me don't worry, that always makes me so mad, but really...don't stress.)
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on August 23, 2017, 09:30:21 PM
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I have GA for St. Louis. I'm flying in from NY in Friday night after work....don't even know how to find out who the line list holder is, where they will be or how any of that works. Not to mention a female in an unfamiliar city (downtown, and oh btw there is a travel advisory in St. Louis too ...) ...

GA should not be a stressful experience.

Ughhhhhh anyone selling a redzone ticket for St. Louis?

You have to find it using the search on Facebook. Then they make you request to join since they want it to be private. There was some drama a month ago because they were denying people from joining.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on August 23, 2017, 10:02:36 PM
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I have GA for St. Louis. I'm flying in from NY in Friday night after work....don't even know how to find out who the line list holder is, where they will be or how any of that works. Not to mention a female in an unfamiliar city (downtown, and oh btw there is a travel advisory in St. Louis too ...) ...

GA should not be a stressful experience.

Ughhhhhh anyone selling a redzone ticket for St. Louis?

You have to find it using the search on Facebook. Then they make you request to join since they want it to be private. There was some drama a month ago because they were denying people from joining.

I've never had any trouble joining any U2 Facebook group, usually the admin has added me within minutes of my request. Other people's mileage, of course, may vary. The only time I've ever seen people "kicked out" of a group is for being abusive toward members or trying to sell tickets for more than face.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: tigerfan41 on August 23, 2017, 10:05:48 PM
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I have GA for St. Louis. I'm flying in from NY in Friday night after work....don't even know how to find out who the line list holder is, where they will be or how any of that works. Not to mention a female in an unfamiliar city (downtown, and oh btw there is a travel advisory in St. Louis too ...) ...

GA should not be a stressful experience.

Ughhhhhh anyone selling a redzone ticket for St. Louis?

You have to find it using the search on Facebook. Then they make you request to join since they want it to be private. There was some drama a month ago because they were denying people from joining.

I've never had any trouble joining any U2 Facebook group, usually the admin has added me within minutes of my request. Other people's mileage, of course, may vary. The only time I've ever seen people "kicked out" of a group is for being abusive toward members or trying to sell tickets for more than face.

Same here. That said, there is drama occasionally. I did notice in the Detroit group that there's a bit of drama between two members--one who has been criticized on other forums for his line running ways (let's call him person B) and another who is running the queue for Detroit (person A). Person B threw shade at person A's line running ability, person A basically called out person B and described him as dishonest, a snake etc. etc.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on August 23, 2017, 10:09:08 PM
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I have GA for St. Louis. I'm flying in from NY in Friday night after work....don't even know how to find out who the line list holder is, where they will be or how any of that works. Not to mention a female in an unfamiliar city (downtown, and oh btw there is a travel advisory in St. Louis too ...) ...

GA should not be a stressful experience.

Ughhhhhh anyone selling a redzone ticket for St. Louis?

You have to find it using the search on Facebook. Then they make you request to join since they want it to be private. There was some drama a month ago because they were denying people from joining.

I've never had any trouble joining any U2 Facebook group, usually the admin has added me within minutes of my request. Other people's mileage, of course, may vary. The only time I've ever seen people "kicked out" of a group is for being abusive toward members or trying to sell tickets for more than face.

Same here. That said, there is drama occasionally. I did notice in the Detroit group that there's a bit of drama between two members--one who has been criticized on other forums for his line running ways (let's call him person B) and another who is running the queue for Detroit (person A). Person B threw shade at person A's line running ability, person A basically called out person B and described him as dishonest, a snake etc. etc.

No them, only us. :) Gotta love the drama llamas!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Kmama07 on August 25, 2017, 05:45:22 AM
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I have GA for St. Louis. I'm flying in from NY in Friday night after work....don't even know how to find out who the line list holder is, where they will be or how any of that works. Not to mention a female in an unfamiliar city (downtown, and oh btw there is a travel advisory in St. Louis too ...) ...

GA should not be a stressful experience.

Ughhhhhh anyone selling a redzone ticket for St. Louis?

You have to find it using the search on Facebook. Then they make you request to join since they want it to be private. There was some drama a month ago because they were denying people from joining.

I've never had any trouble joining any U2 Facebook group, usually the admin has added me within minutes of my request. Other people's mileage, of course, may vary. The only time I've ever seen people "kicked out" of a group is for being abusive toward members or trying to sell tickets for more than face.

Same here. That said, there is drama occasionally. I did notice in the Detroit group that there's a bit of drama between two members--one who has been criticized on other forums for his line running ways (let's call him person B) and another who is running the queue for Detroit (person A). Person B threw shade at person A's line running ability, person A basically called out person B and described him as dishonest, a snake etc. etc.

No them, only us. :) Gotta love the drama llamas!
So does that mean Detroit line has started?
Haha
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: jenniferh aka jen on August 26, 2017, 04:41:55 PM
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The San Diego show I bought tickets for is a Friday show. People are already discussing starting a list at least on the Tuesday before, if not before then. And the guy posting about Tuesday says he needs help getting access to a resort to go golfing.

Don't get me started on that guy!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on August 26, 2017, 05:10:12 PM
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The San Diego show I bought tickets for is a Friday show. People are already discussing starting a list at least on the Tuesday before, if not before then. And the guy posting about Tuesday says he needs help getting access to a resort to go golfing.

Don't get me started on that guy!

Truthfully I'm very saddened. I have a life. I can't spend my whole week in SD "checking in". I took Friday off with the hope of getting there Thursday evening and getting a fairly good position. But these people are making it far more difficult starting that early.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on August 26, 2017, 07:30:12 PM
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The San Diego show I bought tickets for is a Friday show. People are already discussing starting a list at least on the Tuesday before, if not before then. And the guy posting about Tuesday says he needs help getting access to a resort to go golfing.

Don't get me started on that guy!

Truthfully I'm very saddened. I have a life. I can't spend my whole week in SD "checking in". I took Friday off with the hope of getting there Thursday evening and getting a fairly good position. But these people are making it far more difficult starting that early.


From what I've heard, even though a list may start days in advance, there's usually not that many on the list until the night before. So you should still be okay, maybe not rail but maybe one or two spots behind.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on August 26, 2017, 07:36:30 PM
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The San Diego show I bought tickets for is a Friday show. People are already discussing starting a list at least on the Tuesday before, if not before then. And the guy posting about Tuesday says he needs help getting access to a resort to go golfing.

Don't get me started on that guy!

Truthfully I'm very saddened. I have a life. I can't spend my whole week in SD "checking in". I took Friday off with the hope of getting there Thursday evening and getting a fairly good position. But these people are making it far more difficult starting that early.


From what I've heard, even though a list may start days in advance, there's usually not that many on the list until the night before. So you should still be okay, maybe not rail but maybe one or two spots behind.

Hopefully, for the rose bowl I remember it being in the 400s the night before. I think it was the first 250 who went into the barrricade
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Vertigo144 on August 26, 2017, 08:10:22 PM
I arrived in Pasadena at 7 am.  I was in the 500s but not all the barricade people were there yet as they did the check in offsite.  Long and short...  No rail and a long brutal day in the sun.  It was ok, but not great. 


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Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on August 26, 2017, 10:20:29 PM
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I arrived in Pasadena at 7 am.  I was in the 500s but not all the barricade people were there yet as they did the check in offsite.  Long and short...  No rail and a long brutal day in the sun.  It was ok, but not great. 


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Just curious, did you or anyone else try to argue that you guys were there first? The list was never publicly shared by rose bowl staff. I didn't see any arguing with it but there were definitely fans who didn't partake in it and showed up before list people on showday.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: jenniferh aka jen on August 27, 2017, 03:43:44 PM
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The San Diego show I bought tickets for is a Friday show. People are already discussing starting a list at least on the Tuesday before, if not before then. And the guy posting about Tuesday says he needs help getting access to a resort to go golfing.

Don't get me started on that guy!

Truthfully I'm very saddened. I have a life. I can't spend my whole week in SD "checking in". I took Friday off with the hope of getting there Thursday evening and getting a fairly good position. But these people are making it far more difficult starting that early.

Personally I think it's stupid that he wants to start the line that early, but I'm really more irritated with him about how he handled a potential ticket sale.

He posted two tickets for sale, then said he needed to check to see if his buddy already sold them, then refused to give updates about the ticket status. He finally responded after another posting was made looking for tickets. Anyways, he lost the sale. 


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Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: staylorz on August 29, 2017, 12:04:35 PM
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I have GA for St. Louis. I'm flying in from NY in Friday night after work....don't even know how to find out who the line list holder is, where they will be or how any of that works. Not to mention a female in an unfamiliar city (downtown, and oh btw there is a travel advisory in St. Louis too ...) ...

GA should not be a stressful experience.

Ughhhhhh anyone selling a redzone ticket for St. Louis?

You have to find it using the search on Facebook. Then they make you request to join since they want it to be private. There was some drama a month ago because they were denying people from joining.

I've never had any trouble joining any U2 Facebook group, usually the admin has added me within minutes of my request. Other people's mileage, of course, may vary. The only time I've ever seen people "kicked out" of a group is for being abusive toward members or trying to sell tickets for more than face.

Same here. That said, there is drama occasionally. I did notice in the Detroit group that there's a bit of drama between two members--one who has been criticized on other forums for his line running ways (let's call him person B) and another who is running the queue for Detroit (person A). Person B threw shade at person A's line running ability, person A basically called out person B and described him as dishonest, a snake etc. etc.

No them, only us. :) Gotta love the drama llamas!
So does that mean Detroit line has started?
Haha

There's drama for the Detroit show already? I didn't see that on any fb groups. Am I missing one of them? IS there a list for Detroit already? I said it last time but this is going to be my last time doing GA. I've already stopped traveling to shows. I don't have time for that anymore. I'm also tired of the GA line nonsense but, alas, I'm still in it this time so I guess I'll go along with said list nonsense.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Vertigo144 on August 29, 2017, 12:32:57 PM
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I arrived in Pasadena at 7 am.  I was in the 500s but not all the barricade people were there yet as they did the check in offsite.  Long and short...  No rail and a long brutal day in the sun.  It was ok, but not great. 


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Just curious, did you or anyone else try to argue that you guys were there first? The list was never publicly shared by rose bowl staff. I didn't see any arguing with it but there were definitely fans who didn't partake in it and showed up before list people on showday.
I didn't.   I just decided to skip the second night and I'm skipping San Diego.  It was equally fun and exhausting but too many people trying to scam a spot honestly.  It is emotionally exhausting....  especially after making such an effort to get there then add all day in the sun and heat.  Wasn't worth it for me to endure for night two and I have too many reasons why I can't be away from home multiple nights to be in a good position on this list.


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Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: dwaltman on September 02, 2017, 10:29:53 AM
This is the policy for Ford Field:

UPDATE ON GENERAL ADMISSION POLICY FOR U2: We will now be accommodating the fan-run wristband line/list ahead of Detroit's The Joshua Tree 2017 Tour stop. Starting today, Friday, September 1, there is a U2 fan club staged at the bottom of the Gate C ramp through Sunday morning. They are conducting a pre-entry sign up to assign numbered wristbands for guests who have floor general admission tickets. Guests who are unable to sign-up in advance at Gate C are still able to come to Gate D at 9 AM on Sunday, September 3 to reserve your spot behind this pre-entry list in the GA Floor entry line until the limited number of wristbands are distributed.

Just giving the fan lists all the more power.  They should only allow lines to be formed at let's say 7am day of show, give wristbands out at 9am and everyone go home until an hour before doors open.  What is the point of allowing the fans to make a stupid list 2 days prior to the show.  Haven't seen anything about Buffalo yet.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Kmama07 on September 02, 2017, 10:46:12 AM
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This is the policy for Ford Field:

UPDATE ON GENERAL ADMISSION POLICY FOR U2: We will now be accommodating the fan-run wristband line/list ahead of Detroit's The Joshua Tree 2017 Tour stop. Starting today, Friday, September 1, there is a U2 fan club staged at the bottom of the Gate C ramp through Sunday morning. They are conducting a pre-entry sign up to assign numbered wristbands for guests who have floor general admission tickets. Guests who are unable to sign-up in advance at Gate C are still able to come to Gate D at 9 AM on Sunday, September 3 to reserve your spot behind this pre-entry list in the GA Floor entry line until the limited number of wristbands are distributed.

Just giving the fan lists all the more power.  They should only allow lines to be formed at let's say 7am day of show, give wristbands out at 9am and everyone go home until an hour before doors open.  What is the point of allowing the fans to make a stupid list 2 days prior to the show.  Haven't seen anything about Buffalo yet.
This is infuriating to me. Initially, Ford Field stated on their website that were not honoring any fan run line (this was three days ago...about the same time I heard a fan run line had already begun). Ford Field then caved and changed their tune yesterday. At the very least I feel at that point they should have restarted ANY list rather than caved to the fan run line and make all else GET IN LINE BEHIND a line that started days beforehand...a line that I'm sure 90% of GA ticket holders had no idea existed in the first place. Utter nonsense.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on September 02, 2017, 12:11:55 PM
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This is the policy for Ford Field:

UPDATE ON GENERAL ADMISSION POLICY FOR U2: We will now be accommodating the fan-run wristband line/list ahead of Detroit's The Joshua Tree 2017 Tour stop. Starting today, Friday, September 1, there is a U2 fan club staged at the bottom of the Gate C ramp through Sunday morning. They are conducting a pre-entry sign up to assign numbered wristbands for guests who have floor general admission tickets. Guests who are unable to sign-up in advance at Gate C are still able to come to Gate D at 9 AM on Sunday, September 3 to reserve your spot behind this pre-entry list in the GA Floor entry line until the limited number of wristbands are distributed.

Just giving the fan lists all the more power.  They should only allow lines to be formed at let's say 7am day of show, give wristbands out at 9am and everyone go home until an hour before doors open.  What is the point of allowing the fans to make a stupid list 2 days prior to the show.  Haven't seen anything about Buffalo yet.
This is infuriating to me. Initially, Ford Field stated on their website that were not honoring any fan run line (this was three days ago...about the same time I heard a fan run line had already begun). Ford Field then caved and changed their tune yesterday. At the very least I feel at that point they should have restarted ANY list rather than caved to the fan run line and make all else GET IN LINE BEHIND a line that started days beforehand...a line that I'm sure 90% of GA ticket holders had no idea existed in the first place. Utter nonsense.

Lawsuit...
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: shineinthesummernight on September 02, 2017, 04:47:39 PM
I want to leave early in the a.m.  We shall see...
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Kmama07 on September 02, 2017, 05:52:54 PM
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I want to leave early in the a.m.  We shall see...
good luck to you. I have GA but can't get there until mid afternoon earliest.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: tigerfan41 on September 02, 2017, 07:13:49 PM
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I have GA for St. Louis. I'm flying in from NY in Friday night after work....don't even know how to find out who the line list holder is, where they will be or how any of that works. Not to mention a female in an unfamiliar city (downtown, and oh btw there is a travel advisory in St. Louis too ...) ...

GA should not be a stressful experience.

Ughhhhhh anyone selling a redzone ticket for St. Louis?

You have to find it using the search on Facebook. Then they make you request to join since they want it to be private. There was some drama a month ago because they were denying people from joining.

I've never had any trouble joining any U2 Facebook group, usually the admin has added me within minutes of my request. Other people's mileage, of course, may vary. The only time I've ever seen people "kicked out" of a group is for being abusive toward members or trying to sell tickets for more than face.

Same here. That said, there is drama occasionally. I did notice in the Detroit group that there's a bit of drama between two members--one who has been criticized on other forums for his line running ways (let's call him person B) and another who is running the queue for Detroit (person A). Person B threw shade at person A's line running ability, person A basically called out person B and described him as dishonest, a snake etc. etc.

No them, only us. :) Gotta love the drama llamas!
So does that mean Detroit line has started?
Haha

There's drama for the Detroit show already? I didn't see that on any fb groups. Am I missing one of them? IS there a list for Detroit already? I said it last time but this is going to be my last time doing GA. I've already stopped traveling to shows. I don't have time for that anymore. I'm also tired of the GA line nonsense but, alas, I'm still in it this time so I guess I'll go along with said list nonsense.

It was the general Detroit TJT group and was between the line runner (person A) and another guy (person B) who is notorious for being a jerk. It was just on one thread there (that I saw). Other than that, just the occasional disagreement about the line.

I did walk right past the line runners today (en route to grab some will call tickets) and was tempted to sign up for the "list" but decided not to out of principle. I'll be there tomorrow morning and call it good. The more GA shows I attend, the less I agree with the way the list is currently run. It is not fair to out of towners or even to people who live in the city but don't know about the list. BTW, the "line" I saw today consisted of 8 people in fold up chairs yet the "list" has somehow ballooned up to 230 people? How is that fair? All those people are going to be ahead of those who show up tomorrow morning even though they literally did nothing to keep their spots.

I'm beginning to think more and more that the Springsteen system is the way to go. At least it's random. At least different people get a chance at rail.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: WhenIsSOE on September 03, 2017, 04:09:36 PM
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I've done the GA 3 times: Atlanta on Vertigo tour and both Belfast and Dublin on the I&E tour. For Atlanta, I was a lot younger, and my friend and I got in line around 10am. We added our names to the unofficial list, and had our number sharpied on our hand. As I recall, we were something like 117 and 118. Here's the thing: his father, a college professor in a town a good hour-ish away from Atlanta, was eventually joining us. I would say that we were adamant that he would join us (with his class schedule, with its being near the end of the semester--the show was in November--he wasn't able to queue early), but no one whom we talked with cared, as it was only one person, and his reasoning for being "late" was more than sound.

For Belfast and Dublin, I never queued. I just showed up a few hours before, and got a great spot for both shows.

However, I am doing GA for Pittsburgh, with three other friends being with me (i.e., the four of us are on the same credit card). I'm taking the day off of work, and I'm encouraging the others to do so (they're all U2 virgins, and have basically dubbed me as their go-to in our group for planning out the day, and where to aim for on the floor, as it'll be my 10th U2 show). There's one problem, though, and its with the one who actually put the tickets on her credit card: she is a widowed, single mother of two boys, both under 10. She isn't earning much money right now, and can't afford to pay a babysitter all day long, just so that she can avoid pi**ing off line nazis. Nor should she be expected to. However, on this very forum, I have been criticized by others for daring to suggest that she should be able to jump in the line wherever me and the other two may be. They are seriously insisting that she either pay an exorbitant amount to a babysitter, or that the other three of us only get in line when she is able to, as she is the one whose credit card will get the four of us in.

Seriously, one guy said, "Yeah, while I can understand her situation, it still isn't right, because if we let this happen, then what's to stop others from lying about it?" Seriously, who is this "we"?!

Don't get me wrong: I'm all for order and structure, but I'm 1,000% opposed to what these unofficial lines have devolved to (again, in Atlanta, 12 years ago, no one protested my friends father jumping in line with us later).

You mean she's never been to a U2 show, or she's literally never heard a U2 song? That seems hard, considering the Blackout hype.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: WhenIsSOE on September 03, 2017, 04:11:28 PM
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I haven't done GA at a U2 show since 2001, on the final night of the Elevation Tour.... I'm just not cut out for all the nonsense aggravation! 

For my several Vertigo arena 2005 shows, I did reserved lower level seats near the stage each time... perfect! 

U2 360 in 2011, I did lower level seats again... but this tour was in a stadium, I felt too far removed from the band, even though i was as closest reserved section to the stage you can get...

So now we're at a stadium again for Joshua Tree 2017...  so this time I'm doing GA, with a twist.... Red zone.    Hoping it goes smoothly.
Is GA Georgia? I'm not dumb, I just want to know if that's the context it's being used in.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on September 03, 2017, 05:26:21 PM
Typically GA is used in this context to mean general admission, as in field or floor standing tickets. I assume this was an honest question so I'm giving an honest answer.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on September 03, 2017, 05:40:10 PM
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I've done the GA 3 times: Atlanta on Vertigo tour and both Belfast and Dublin on the I&E tour. For Atlanta, I was a lot younger, and my friend and I got in line around 10am. We added our names to the unofficial list, and had our number sharpied on our hand. As I recall, we were something like 117 and 118. Here's the thing: his father, a college professor in a town a good hour-ish away from Atlanta, was eventually joining us. I would say that we were adamant that he would join us (with his class schedule, with its being near the end of the semester--the show was in November--he wasn't able to queue early), but no one whom we talked with cared, as it was only one person, and his reasoning for being "late" was more than sound.

For Belfast and Dublin, I never queued. I just showed up a few hours before, and got a great spot for both shows.

However, I am doing GA for Pittsburgh, with three other friends being with me (i.e., the four of us are on the same credit card). I'm taking the day off of work, and I'm encouraging the others to do so (they're all U2 virgins, and have basically dubbed me as their go-to in our group for planning out the day, and where to aim for on the floor, as it'll be my 10th U2 show). There's one problem, though, and its with the one who actually put the tickets on her credit card: she is a widowed, single mother of two boys, both under 10. She isn't earning much money right now, and can't afford to pay a babysitter all day long, just so that she can avoid pi**ing off line nazis. Nor should she be expected to. However, on this very forum, I have been criticized by others for daring to suggest that she should be able to jump in the line wherever me and the other two may be. They are seriously insisting that she either pay an exorbitant amount to a babysitter, or that the other three of us only get in line when she is able to, as she is the one whose credit card will get the four of us in.

Seriously, one guy said, "Yeah, while I can understand her situation, it still isn't right, because if we let this happen, then what's to stop others from lying about it?" Seriously, who is this "we"?!

Don't get me wrong: I'm all for order and structure, but I'm 1,000% opposed to what these unofficial lines have devolved to (again, in Atlanta, 12 years ago, no one protested my friends father jumping in line with us later).

You mean she's never been to a U2 show, or she's literally never heard a U2 song? That seems hard, considering the Blackout hype.

I'm going to be 100% honest with you, showing up on the day of wont get you any rail and you'll be 2-3 rows back. That's how crazy this whole thing has become. The line is well into the 300s the day before. Theres no point in getting there early if you're getting there showday.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on September 03, 2017, 07:35:12 PM
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I've done the GA 3 times: Atlanta on Vertigo tour and both Belfast and Dublin on the I&E tour. For Atlanta, I was a lot younger, and my friend and I got in line around 10am. We added our names to the unofficial list, and had our number sharpied on our hand. As I recall, we were something like 117 and 118. Here's the thing: his father, a college professor in a town a good hour-ish away from Atlanta, was eventually joining us. I would say that we were adamant that he would join us (with his class schedule, with its being near the end of the semester--the show was in November--he wasn't able to queue early), but no one whom we talked with cared, as it was only one person, and his reasoning for being "late" was more than sound.

For Belfast and Dublin, I never queued. I just showed up a few hours before, and got a great spot for both shows.

However, I am doing GA for Pittsburgh, with three other friends being with me (i.e., the four of us are on the same credit card). I'm taking the day off of work, and I'm encouraging the others to do so (they're all U2 virgins, and have basically dubbed me as their go-to in our group for planning out the day, and where to aim for on the floor, as it'll be my 10th U2 show). There's one problem, though, and its with the one who actually put the tickets on her credit card: she is a widowed, single mother of two boys, both under 10. She isn't earning much money right now, and can't afford to pay a babysitter all day long, just so that she can avoid pi**ing off line nazis. Nor should she be expected to. However, on this very forum, I have been criticized by others for daring to suggest that she should be able to jump in the line wherever me and the other two may be. They are seriously insisting that she either pay an exorbitant amount to a babysitter, or that the other three of us only get in line when she is able to, as she is the one whose credit card will get the four of us in.

Seriously, one guy said, "Yeah, while I can understand her situation, it still isn't right, because if we let this happen, then what's to stop others from lying about it?" Seriously, who is this "we"?!

Don't get me wrong: I'm all for order and structure, but I'm 1,000% opposed to what these unofficial lines have devolved to (again, in Atlanta, 12 years ago, no one protested my friends father jumping in line with us later).

You mean she's never been to a U2 show, or she's literally never heard a U2 song? That seems hard, considering the Blackout hype.

I'm going to be 100% honest with you, showing up on the day of wont get you any rail and you'll be 2-3 rows back. That's how crazy this whole thing has become. The line is well into the 300s the day before. Theres no point in getting there early if you're getting there showday.

We got in line about 4:00 show day Chicago 2 and still could've gotten red zone rail or main stage rail in front of Adam, and from what ive heard, it wasn't a fluke. Tree stage rail goes first, I think, but we were still probably 4-5 rows off of it even given when we lined up. Had a great view of the tree stage and main stage and screen.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on September 03, 2017, 08:10:31 PM
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I've done the GA 3 times: Atlanta on Vertigo tour and both Belfast and Dublin on the I&E tour. For Atlanta, I was a lot younger, and my friend and I got in line around 10am. We added our names to the unofficial list, and had our number sharpied on our hand. As I recall, we were something like 117 and 118. Here's the thing: his father, a college professor in a town a good hour-ish away from Atlanta, was eventually joining us. I would say that we were adamant that he would join us (with his class schedule, with its being near the end of the semester--the show was in November--he wasn't able to queue early), but no one whom we talked with cared, as it was only one person, and his reasoning for being "late" was more than sound.

For Belfast and Dublin, I never queued. I just showed up a few hours before, and got a great spot for both shows.

However, I am doing GA for Pittsburgh, with three other friends being with me (i.e., the four of us are on the same credit card). I'm taking the day off of work, and I'm encouraging the others to do so (they're all U2 virgins, and have basically dubbed me as their go-to in our group for planning out the day, and where to aim for on the floor, as it'll be my 10th U2 show). There's one problem, though, and its with the one who actually put the tickets on her credit card: she is a widowed, single mother of two boys, both under 10. She isn't earning much money right now, and can't afford to pay a babysitter all day long, just so that she can avoid pi**ing off line nazis. Nor should she be expected to. However, on this very forum, I have been criticized by others for daring to suggest that she should be able to jump in the line wherever me and the other two may be. They are seriously insisting that she either pay an exorbitant amount to a babysitter, or that the other three of us only get in line when she is able to, as she is the one whose credit card will get the four of us in.

Seriously, one guy said, "Yeah, while I can understand her situation, it still isn't right, because if we let this happen, then what's to stop others from lying about it?" Seriously, who is this "we"?!

Don't get me wrong: I'm all for order and structure, but I'm 1,000% opposed to what these unofficial lines have devolved to (again, in Atlanta, 12 years ago, no one protested my friends father jumping in line with us later).

You mean she's never been to a U2 show, or she's literally never heard a U2 song? That seems hard, considering the Blackout hype.

I'm going to be 100% honest with you, showing up on the day of wont get you any rail and you'll be 2-3 rows back. That's how crazy this whole thing has become. The line is well into the 300s the day before. Theres no point in getting there early if you're getting there showday.

We got in line about 4:00 show day Chicago 2 and still could've gotten red zone rail or main stage rail in front of Adam, and from what ive heard, it wasn't a fluke. Tree stage rail goes first, I think, but we were still probably 4-5 rows off of it even given when we lined up. Had a great viewnofntreenstage amd main stage and screen.

That's pretty good. I showed up 8 am rose bowl and was 3 rows off the tree stage, center
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: tigerfan41 on September 04, 2017, 11:04:51 AM
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I've done the GA 3 times: Atlanta on Vertigo tour and both Belfast and Dublin on the I&E tour. For Atlanta, I was a lot younger, and my friend and I got in line around 10am. We added our names to the unofficial list, and had our number sharpied on our hand. As I recall, we were something like 117 and 118. Here's the thing: his father, a college professor in a town a good hour-ish away from Atlanta, was eventually joining us. I would say that we were adamant that he would join us (with his class schedule, with its being near the end of the semester--the show was in November--he wasn't able to queue early), but no one whom we talked with cared, as it was only one person, and his reasoning for being "late" was more than sound.

For Belfast and Dublin, I never queued. I just showed up a few hours before, and got a great spot for both shows.

However, I am doing GA for Pittsburgh, with three other friends being with me (i.e., the four of us are on the same credit card). I'm taking the day off of work, and I'm encouraging the others to do so (they're all U2 virgins, and have basically dubbed me as their go-to in our group for planning out the day, and where to aim for on the floor, as it'll be my 10th U2 show). There's one problem, though, and its with the one who actually put the tickets on her credit card: she is a widowed, single mother of two boys, both under 10. She isn't earning much money right now, and can't afford to pay a babysitter all day long, just so that she can avoid pi**ing off line nazis. Nor should she be expected to. However, on this very forum, I have been criticized by others for daring to suggest that she should be able to jump in the line wherever me and the other two may be. They are seriously insisting that she either pay an exorbitant amount to a babysitter, or that the other three of us only get in line when she is able to, as she is the one whose credit card will get the four of us in.

Seriously, one guy said, "Yeah, while I can understand her situation, it still isn't right, because if we let this happen, then what's to stop others from lying about it?" Seriously, who is this "we"?!

Don't get me wrong: I'm all for order and structure, but I'm 1,000% opposed to what these unofficial lines have devolved to (again, in Atlanta, 12 years ago, no one protested my friends father jumping in line with us later).

You mean she's never been to a U2 show, or she's literally never heard a U2 song? That seems hard, considering the Blackout hype.

I'm going to be 100% honest with you, showing up on the day of wont get you any rail and you'll be 2-3 rows back. That's how crazy this whole thing has become. The line is well into the 300s the day before. Theres no point in getting there early if you're getting there showday.

That's not necessarily true and is really subject to the city/date. For instance, we showed up at 9am the day of the show in Pittsburgh and were number 160. However, we showed up around 830 yesterday and were number 420 in Detroit. It all depends on the show, although I do agree the line running situation has gotten out of hand.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Ultravioletem on September 04, 2017, 03:57:05 PM
I showed up at 4:45 and was 2 rows back from maon stage 20-30 feet from Bono's mic. A few feet to my left was one of the west coast line runners. He did the check-ins and all the nonsense and at best his spot was marginally better than mine.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: shineinthesummernight on September 04, 2017, 04:18:52 PM
I'd love to see them go to a B. Springsteen kind of random format.  I'd love to have a shot at GA front row, even if it is random.  I just can't wait all day and night.
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on September 04, 2017, 04:58:56 PM
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I showed up at 4:45 and was 2 rows back from maon stage 20-30 feet from Bono's mic. A few feet to my left was one of the west coast line runners. He did the check-ins and all the nonsense and at best his spot was marginally better than mine.

Now that's what I'm talking bout!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: Kmama07 on September 04, 2017, 05:36:15 PM
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I'd love to see them go to a B. Springsteen kind of random format.  I'd love to have a shot at GA front row, even if it is random.  I just can't wait all day and night.
I agree. And wish you the best if luck scoring tickets!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: julez728 on September 07, 2017, 06:29:19 PM
Per Indy FB page:
"The venue is ON BOARD with the fan run line! With that being said, the line will start tomorrow morning at 6 am (the venue knows that this is the official time it will start and has agreed to that. Any line started before that will not be recognized ). We are setting up on the corner of Missouri and Norwood on the opposite side of the street Look for the Irish flag! 🇨🇮 No one is allowed on the venue side of the street due to load ins and deliveries! All people in your party must be present to get a number! Check ins will be 7-8 pm on Friday and on Saturday from 7-8 am and 5-6 pm. Sunday morning, everyone that has a number should be here no later than 5 am. lined up on the side street NORWOOD! Police will escort us across Missouri St. to the corrals. They will start the numbered wristbands at 6 am. Once you get your official number, you may leave and come back (I would be here no later than 2 pm). You will get back in numerical order at this point and go thru the metal detectors and get your official JT GA wristband and put in chutes of 100 for entry."
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: gsylvies on September 09, 2017, 07:30:48 AM
In St Louis for 9/16 the America's Dome venue is doing their own line process.  Will be interesting to see if this conflicts with the "Unofficial List".
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: trevgreg on September 09, 2017, 09:24:20 AM
My sister and I got in line about an hour before the show last night and ended up a row or three off of the rail for Beck and most of U2. By the end of U2, my sister was actually on the tree-stage rail and Bono even smiled at her at one point. Go figure!
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: monopoly on October 08, 2017, 03:37:35 PM
While 11 days early is certainly ridiculous, this is proper lining and how GA should always be:

https://mobile.twitter.com/atu2/status/917112532271357952
https://mobile.twitter.com/visitlaplata/status/916778514417901568
Title: Re: GA and the "Unofficial List"
Post by: lorijane on October 08, 2017, 07:56:09 PM
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While 11 days early is certainly ridiculous, this is proper lining and how GA should always be:

https://mobile.twitter.com/atu2/status/917112532271357952
https://mobile.twitter.com/visitlaplata/status/916778514417901568

I am really surprised the venue allows this, given the security issues involved.