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Title: SOE update
Post by: U2-4-LIFE on July 16, 2017, 07:44:26 AM
"Songs of Experience" listening sessions continue in Europe: https://t.co/IoWSomFrYm #U2SOE pic.twitter.com/tnvPJwtdAf

— u2songs .com (@u2songs) July 16, 2017
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on July 16, 2017, 07:47:12 AM
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"Songs of Experience" listening sessions continue in Europe: https://t.co/IoWSomFrYm #U2SOE pic.twitter.com/tnvPJwtdAf

— u2songs .com (@u2songs) July 16, 2017

Hope this is true!


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on July 16, 2017, 07:47:57 AM
yesyesyesyesyes, please!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on July 16, 2017, 07:50:05 AM
Seems desperate to me.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: OnlyU2 on July 16, 2017, 08:16:10 AM
"The Light at Home has been mentioned by The Edge as one of the songs he’s loving on the new album" - now I am anxious to hear this song!

I'm glad "You're the best thing about me" isn't the single.  and I'm glad it will be a more U2 sounding song.  Phew!

Single release day in September? Album release December 1st on World Aids Day?  I think it's true this time.

Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: georgemccauley on July 16, 2017, 08:32:13 AM
The coverage by u2songs is phenomenal. Very reliable with their sources and articles. Hope this continues


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on July 16, 2017, 08:33:39 AM
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"The Light at Home has been mentioned by The Edge as one of the songs he’s loving on the new album" - now I am anxious to hear this song!

I'm glad "You're the best thing about me" isn't the single.  and I'm glad it will be a more U2 sounding song.  Phew!

Single release day in September? Album release December 1st on World Aids Day?  I think it's true this time.

Pinch of salt. Edge liked unknown caller!


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: tony_bolony on July 16, 2017, 10:37:22 AM
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Seems desperate to me.

I agree,
Sounds like focus testing to me... 

Make it. Release it. Stand by it. You're freaking U2!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on July 16, 2017, 11:18:06 AM
A brand NEW single in September? Does that mean Little Things will still be played on the 3rd leg?

Does it make sense to release a single, without any promotion for months, while touring an entirely different album?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: skelter on July 16, 2017, 11:22:08 AM
I wish they would play another new song (Best Thing About Me?) on USA September leg. No new songs will happen in Europe now. And they have a month of no concerts before the US September leg.

On HowToDismantle album, they also sought opinions from random people on the tracks, like studio janitors, pizza dudes etc.

How the heck does one get invited into a listening group? Look under 40? Wink at Guy Oseary? Don't they have security concerns about rabid fans crammed in a room with them?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: OnlyU2 on July 16, 2017, 11:33:09 AM
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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: xy on July 16, 2017, 11:36:16 AM
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A brand NEW single in September? Does that mean Little Things will still be played on the 3rd leg?

Does it make sense to release a single, without any promotion for months, while touring an entirely different album?

Not much in U2 world made sense in 2017 anyway.

- touring a 30 year old album and delaying new material
- playing a new song (or not) dead last in the set
- and now allegedly releasing a new single while still playing JT30
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on July 16, 2017, 11:47:48 AM
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A brand NEW single in September? Does that mean Little Things will still be played on the 3rd leg?

Does it make sense to release a single, without any promotion for months, while touring an entirely different album?

Not much in U2 world made sense in 2017 anyway.

- touring a 30 year old album and delaying new material
- playing a new song (or not) dead last in the set
- and now allegedly releasing a new single while still playing JT30

1. they're doing the songs chronological for the most part, so that makes sense.
2. all eyes are on them touring their biggest album so yea it makes sense to capitalize on that.

Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: xy on July 16, 2017, 11:55:06 AM
1. I think a new song should be earlier in the set.
2. Their biggest album. Exactly. Your nostalgic average Joe most likely doesn't care about Little things that give you away or any other new song.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on July 16, 2017, 11:56:16 AM
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Seems desperate to me.

I agree,
Sounds like focus testing to me... 

Make it. Release it. Stand by it. You're freaking U2!

nah. who here wouldn't love to tell U2 to keep a particular song off the damn album. sometimes bands loose the plot bad and need someone from the outside <who clearly wont be Eno and Lanois or Lillywhite> to tell them to knock it off.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on July 16, 2017, 11:56:55 AM
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1. I think a new song should be earlier in the set.
2. Their biggest album. Exactly. Your nostalgic average Joe most likely doesn't care about Little things that give you away or any other new song.

so just....dont bother trying a new song on them?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on July 16, 2017, 12:00:31 PM
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1. I think a new song should be earlier in the set.
2. Their biggest album. Exactly. Your nostalgic average Joe most likely doesn't care about Little things that give you away or any other new song.

so just....dont bother trying a new song on them?

It's a marketing move. Casuals come, u2 advertises they have new music coming soon. Casuals will want to listen to the new album and say "I remember this song". The market for an indoor tour next year is strong. All the casuals who went this year will come back next year.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: skelter on July 16, 2017, 12:13:28 PM
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1. I think a new song should be earlier in the set.
2. Their biggest album. Exactly. Your nostalgic average Joe most likely doesn't care about Little things that give you away or any other new song.

so just....dont bother trying a new song on them?

The new song is for us diehards in attendance. 10-20% of the stadium crowd.

And really, if you got the chance to be in the same room as Bono/U2, would you really say "Elevation sucks"? No, you'd probably gush at every song you have the pleasure of previewing.

If anything, this listening sessions with obvious U2 fans who paid to attend the concert is like soaking in a bath tub of praises.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: ecadad on July 16, 2017, 12:21:31 PM
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"The Light at Home has been mentioned by The Edge as one of the songs he’s loving on the new album" - now I am anxious to hear this song!

I'm glad "You're the best thing about me" isn't the single.  and I'm glad it will be a more U2 sounding song.  Phew!

Single release day in September? Album release December 1st on World Aids Day?  I think it's true this time.

Pinch of salt. Edge liked unknown caller!


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Not to open a can of worms, but Unknown Caller is a fantastic track IMO
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on July 16, 2017, 12:26:25 PM
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1. I think a new song should be earlier in the set.
2. Their biggest album. Exactly. Your nostalgic average Joe most likely doesn't care about Little things that give you away or any other new song.

so just....dont bother trying a new song on them?

The new song is for us diehards in attendance. 10-20% of the stadium crowd.

And really, if you got the chance to be in the same room as Bono/U2, would you really say "Elevation sucks"? No, you'd probably gush at every song you have the pleasure of previewing.

If anything, this listening sessions with obvious U2 fans who paid to attend the concert is like soaking in a bath tub of praises.

these focus groups aren't about telling the band to their face, it's more about filling out surveys, anonymously even.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on July 16, 2017, 12:29:31 PM
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1. I think a new song should be earlier in the set.
2. Their biggest album. Exactly. Your nostalgic average Joe most likely doesn't care about Little things that give you away or any other new song.

so just....dont bother trying a new song on them?

The new song is for us diehards in attendance. 10-20% of the stadium crowd.

And really, if you got the chance to be in the same room as Bono/U2, would you really say "Elevation sucks"? No, you'd probably gush at every song you have the pleasure of previewing.

If anything, this listening sessions with obvious U2 fans who paid to attend the concert is like soaking in a bath tub of praises.

these focus groups aren't about telling the band to their face, it's more about filling out surveys, anonymously even.
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They should just put out an EP, if they want criticism
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: xy on July 16, 2017, 12:41:22 PM
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1. I think a new song should be earlier in the set.
2. Their biggest album. Exactly. Your nostalgic average Joe most likely doesn't care about Little things that give you away or any other new song.

so just....dont bother trying a new song on them?

It's a marketing move. Casuals come, u2 advertises they have new music coming soon. Casuals will want to listen to the new album and say "I remember this song". The market for an indoor tour next year is strong. All the casuals who went this year will come back next year.

U2 advertises...and casuals won't care. *shrug* Diehards make up a very small percentage this time IMO. Release a single when the tour's over and make a little promo tour - like usual.

As for next year - I don't know. The band has already asked the fans to fork out in 2015, this year and next year again...US and Europe might be a little saturated by now, surely ?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on July 16, 2017, 12:44:45 PM
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"The Light at Home has been mentioned by The Edge as one of the songs he’s loving on the new album" - now I am anxious to hear this song!

I'm glad "You're the best thing about me" isn't the single.  and I'm glad it will be a more U2 sounding song.  Phew!

Single release day in September? Album release December 1st on World Aids Day?  I think it's true this time.

Pinch of salt. Edge liked unknown caller!


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: ecadad on July 16, 2017, 01:21:37 PM
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"The Light at Home has been mentioned by The Edge as one of the songs he’s loving on the new album" - now I am anxious to hear this song!

I'm glad "You're the best thing about me" isn't the single.  and I'm glad it will be a more U2 sounding song.  Phew!

Single release day in September? Album release December 1st on World Aids Day?  I think it's true this time.

Pinch of salt. Edge liked unknown caller!


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Not to open a can of worms, but Unknown Caller is a fantastic track IMO

What happened to the moderating gig?

I discovered that graduating from college and starting off life in the adult world doesn't leave a lot of time for being a mod.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: tony_bolony on July 16, 2017, 01:22:33 PM
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Seems desperate to me.

I agree,
Sounds like focus testing to me... 

Make it. Release it. Stand by it. You're freaking U2!

nah. who here wouldn't love to tell U2 to keep a particular song off the damn album. sometimes bands loose the plot bad and need someone from the outside <who clearly wont be Eno and Lanois or Lillywhite> to tell them to knock it off.

Honestly, over the past decade or so, there'd be a LOT of songs I would have told them to keep off the album... but I'd be disappointed if they'd listen to me, because it's none of my business what they decide sounds good or not. Yeah, this leads to a whole can of worms, in that my biggest gripe about U2 of late is they seem to care too much about having a hit single, that they're starting to sound too much like U2 (my issue with Little Things). I wish they'd just let go of themselves and preconceived notions of how well a U2 album is supposed to 'perform', and they could go make Passengers 2, and record choirs of penguins in Antarctica for all I care, if it makes them feel creatively invigorated. They just seem to be stuck and I feel they're struggling to fill their own shoes. Sorry if this went off topic  :-X
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on July 16, 2017, 01:23:24 PM
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"The Light at Home has been mentioned by The Edge as one of the songs he’s loving on the new album" - now I am anxious to hear this song!

I'm glad "You're the best thing about me" isn't the single.  and I'm glad it will be a more U2 sounding song.  Phew!

Single release day in September? Album release December 1st on World Aids Day?  I think it's true this time.

Pinch of salt. Edge liked unknown caller!


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Not to open a can of worms, but Unknown Caller is a fantastic track IMO

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I discovered that graduating from college and starting off life in the adult world doesn't leave a lot of time for being a mod.

A wise decision about life priorities - a good start in starting off life in the adult world.

Good luck.
Title: SOE update
Post by: aviastar on July 16, 2017, 01:59:00 PM
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As for next year - I don't know. The band has already asked the fans to fork out in 2015, this year and next year again...US and Europe might be a little saturated by now, surely ?

In the USA I think there will be enough demand for a 2018 SOE tour.  Especially if it's indoor arena shows like 2015.  There are acts that are far lower profile than U2 who tour every year in 10k seat venues and have not released an album in a long time (I.e. DMB).


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: mariamontreal on July 16, 2017, 02:21:09 PM
What are the chance we will hear the JT songs again after this tour when the new album and tour comes?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on July 16, 2017, 02:27:02 PM
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What are the chance we will hear the JT songs again after this tour when the new album and tour comes?

There's a 100% chance of hearing a 1/4 of the album every night on IE
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on July 16, 2017, 02:39:38 PM
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Seems desperate to me.

I agree,
Sounds like focus testing to me... 

Make it. Release it. Stand by it. You're freaking U2!

nah. who here wouldn't love to tell U2 to keep a particular song off the damn album. sometimes bands loose the plot bad and need someone from the outside <who clearly wont be Eno and Lanois or Lillywhite> to tell them to knock it off.
This is a horrible tactic to employ if we expect U2 to experiment and become more adventurous.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: JFW on July 16, 2017, 02:46:32 PM
Great update :)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: mariamontreal on July 16, 2017, 03:13:10 PM
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What are the chance we will hear the JT songs again after this tour when the new album and tour comes?

There's a 100% chance of hearing a 1/4 of the album every night on IE
besides the warhorse songs
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: miami on July 16, 2017, 03:49:23 PM
Why do they give two hoots what anyone else thinks?
Release it, be confident in it and don't give a damn about what casual fans or music journalists think about it.

Grow some b***s u2. You've been in the business for 40 years. Where's the swagger gone?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: tony_bolony on July 16, 2017, 04:13:39 PM
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Why do they give two hoots what anyone else thinks?
Release it, be confident in it and don't give a damn about what casual fans or music journalists think about it.

Grow some b***s u2. You've been in the business for 40 years. Where's the swagger gone?

Amen!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: lorijane on July 16, 2017, 04:19:01 PM
I think the listening parties are just to produce "buzz." I would guess the album is done and even if someone says they don't like a song, it's not going to be yanked from the album.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Pouakai on July 16, 2017, 04:46:04 PM
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I think the listening parties are just to produce "buzz." I would guess the album is done and even if someone says they don't like a song, it's not going to be yanked from the album.

To an extent - I think they'd look at a song if it's universally hated across all the listening parties
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on July 16, 2017, 04:52:16 PM
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I think the listening parties are just to produce "buzz." I would guess the album is done and even if someone says they don't like a song, it's not going to be yanked from the album.

To an extent - I think they'd look at a song if it's universally hated across all the listening parties

they would. esp. the hyper-sensitive Bono. also if they're just listening parties then maybe the album is done. i mean, it's not, but maybe it is.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on July 16, 2017, 05:06:53 PM
It's a strange concept to me, and all seems too corporate. It's like the chicken and egg.. who came first, the artist or the fans?!

Make the music you believe in and then let those that want to subscribe to it, to do so..
If they're asking fans on this tour then they had better make it sound like old U2 if they want a positive response. But I would say 80% of these audiences just want a nostalgic blast and couldn't give a hoot about new Material.

If it's true then great to hear we're close to something new.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: imaginary friend on July 16, 2017, 06:01:20 PM
GET IT DONE DAMN IT
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: World71R on July 16, 2017, 06:34:43 PM
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"The Light at Home has been mentioned by The Edge as one of the songs he’s loving on the new album" - now I am anxious to hear this song!

I'm glad "You're the best thing about me" isn't the single.  and I'm glad it will be a more U2 sounding song.  Phew!

Single release day in September? Album release December 1st on World Aids Day?  I think it's true this time.

Pinch of salt. Edge liked unknown caller!


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Not to open a can of worms, but Unknown Caller is a fantastic track IMO

I agree. The technological-themed lyrics are a little much at times, but other than that, it's a really good song and another underrated track from NLOTH.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: skelter on July 16, 2017, 07:02:29 PM
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they would. esp. the hyper-sensitive Bono. also if they're just listening parties then maybe the album is done. i mean, it's not, but maybe it is.

Lol, hyper-sensitive Bono is right. But I have to wonder if Edge is just as sensitive. Just because Bono talks about it the most in interviews...
In their studio, Bono might not be the only indecisive one.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on July 16, 2017, 08:46:16 PM
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"The Light at Home has been mentioned by The Edge as one of the songs he’s loving on the new album" - now I am anxious to hear this song!

I'm glad "You're the best thing about me" isn't the single.  and I'm glad it will be a more U2 sounding song.  Phew!

Single release day in September? Album release December 1st on World Aids Day?  I think it's true this time.

Pinch of salt. Edge liked unknown caller!


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Not to open a can of worms, but Unknown Caller is a fantastic track IMO

I agree. The technological-themed lyrics are a little much at times, but other than that, it's a really good song and another underrated track from NLOTH.

honestly i loved it at first, then the password you/reboot yourself stuff wore me down. i don't mind the chanting, it's the least offensive part.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on July 16, 2017, 08:47:13 PM
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they would. esp. the hyper-sensitive Bono. also if they're just listening parties then maybe the album is done. i mean, it's not, but maybe it is.

Lol, hyper-sensitive Bono is right. But I have to wonder if Edge is just as sensitive. Just because Bono talks about it the most in interviews...
In their studio, Bono might not be the only indecisive one.

maybe yea.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: andwise on July 16, 2017, 09:03:18 PM
Call me optimistic, but I don't see this as "desperate." I imagine that playing new material for your music-producer friends is pretty standard. The article didn't explicitly state that U2/management was playing the SOE songs for random fans and then polling them, as in a focus group setting. In fact, I would be shocked if this hasn't been done for the previous 5 U2 records...the only difference is that the band is out on tour promoting a previous album. And it just doesn't make sense to release a new album while on an anniversary tour.

Also: I believe that U2 is carefully planning the release of SOE and how the record is rolled out, as they know it could be one of their last chances to have a big hit. I can't wait for it! :)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on July 16, 2017, 09:11:57 PM
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Call me optimistic, but I don't see this as "desperate." I imagine that playing new material for your music-producer friends is pretty standard. The article didn't explicitly state that U2/management was playing the SOE songs for random fans and then polling them, as in a focus group setting. In fact, I would be shocked if this hasn't been done for the previous 5 U2 records...the only difference is that the band is out on tour promoting a previous album. And it just doesn't make sense to release a new album while on an anniversary tour.

Also: I believe that U2 is carefully planning the release of SOE and how the record is rolled out, as they know it could be one of their last chances to have a big hit. I can't wait for it! :)

i really hope this is true.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: fna692002 on July 16, 2017, 09:27:54 PM
updated post on U2songs saying TBT is the likely first single...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on July 17, 2017, 12:35:16 AM
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updated post on U2songs saying TBT is the likely first single...
This really worries me.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: tigerfan41 on July 17, 2017, 01:08:32 AM
It's nice to see that my prediction (based on the X-mas video) appears to still be holding true: that the album will be released by the end of 2017. I know a lot of people doubted it (fairly, given U2's track record) and probably still do, but I'm still confident that SoE is coming within the next 5.5 months.

As for the idea of a listening party, it's hardly a new thing in the music business. Many artists--though typically those who aren't massively popular--do it. Usually this is done when the album is close to coming out, but some artists do it to gather feedback. That's what U2 seems to be doing.

I would venture to guess that hardcore fans aren't being invited to these listening parties. They're biased and aren't the base U2 are targeting. Now, don't get me wrong, U2 care about their fans and what they think, but they're still seemingly focused on the relevancy thing. They need to know if the songs are something that casual fans/people who aren't fans at all/radio people will like. I'm guessing these are the sorts of people at the listening parties.

Personally, I think it's dumb to still focus on getting a hit as it has the possibility of cheapening their legacy if done wrong. However, what I have heard of the samples/lyrics for the new songs so far, seems to suggest a very solid album. I happen to like Little Things and feel it has the potential to be one of the better songs on the album. I also see potential in Best Thing, provided all instances of electronic sounds are removed from it (which, again, it sounds like is the case). I haven't heard the other songs (aside from the one sampled in Kendrick's track, which also sounds like it has potential) but I'm optimistic.

I think someone else said that, given the rumored tracks, this album may be one of the most musically diverse U2 has released in a long time, where every song is pretty different (and thinking about the three we have heard in some shape or form, this makes sense--they're all so different). That's exciting to me.

As far as market saturation? People have to realize that U2 are one of the biggest bands of all time and they are the biggest that is still regularly touring. We've lost many legendary musicians the last several years and I'm sure because of that, there's a certain urgency to see artists in concert before they stop touring. Combine this factor with the fact that U2 puts on one of the best live shows around and is pretty reasonable with many ticket prices (compared to other huge artists) and the fact that they're allegedly sticking to arenas next year...well, I don't think they'll have any difficulty selling out multiple nights in most cities. The 2015 tour ignored many, many major markets. TJT tour only partially satisfied these markets--they're still hungry for more.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on July 17, 2017, 01:34:09 AM
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updated post on U2songs saying TBT is the likely first single...
This really worries me.

Throwback Thursday?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on July 17, 2017, 01:37:56 AM
Even "hits" in today's world aren't really hits. The radio stations are paid to play the same thing over and and over again. Songs from 2013 like "clarity" or "get lucky" aren't even played anymore and are considered old. Real Hits like WOWY get played occasionally to this day.

The meaning of the word hit has been lost. U2 should stop chasing that and make music that resonates live.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: tigerfan41 on July 17, 2017, 01:41:07 AM
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Even "hits" in today's world aren't really hits. The radio stations are paid to play the same thing over and and over again. Songs from 2013 like "clarity" or "get lucky" aren't even played anymore and are considered old. Real Hits like WOWY get played occasionally to this day.

The meaning of the word hit has been lost. U2 should stop chasing that and make music that resonates live.

1000% agreed.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: The Edges Cat on July 17, 2017, 03:38:24 AM
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My god they look like their dads! I could have sworn that was a young Bono. And Edge's daughter is so Morleigh, but I can see her old man there too.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: aviastar on July 17, 2017, 05:38:33 AM
If this is the cover (which seems highly since I saw them throw it up on the screen in Chicago), then I really like it. Though I kinda wish they'd put Peter Rowan on there again...


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: MattD on July 17, 2017, 06:13:03 AM
The Best Thing as first single?

Utterly pathetic song, I just have no idea who they are trying to kid - it's not as if it's going to storm the charts, and the only folk who will like it are MOR Radio 2 listeners more suited to Elaine Page and Englebert Humperdinck.

Someone with a bit of creative balls really needs to tell them to get a grip.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: aviastar on July 17, 2017, 06:43:22 AM
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The Best Thing as first single?

Utterly pathetic song, I just have no idea who they are trying to kid - it's not as if it's going to storm the charts, and the only folk who will like it are MOR Radio 2 listeners more suited to Elaine Page and Englebert Humperdinck.

Someone with a bit of creative balls really needs to tell them to get a grip.

They say it's going to be different than the version we have heard - (KYGO remix??).  I'm not enthused about that version - it doesn't sound like U2 to me (I don't even hear Edge's distinctive guitar sounds).  But I am holding out hope that The Best Thing that appears on SOE is quite different - and more interesting - than the one that the public has heard so far - which sounds like something they play over the PA at Forever 21.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Daniel94 on July 17, 2017, 09:36:44 AM
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updated post on U2songs saying TBT is the likely first single...

Hope swiftly dashed
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on July 17, 2017, 12:33:35 PM
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updated post on U2songs saying TBT is the likely first single...
This really worries me.

Throwback Thursday?
The Best Thing. I know, it took me a little bit, too!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on July 17, 2017, 12:35:59 PM
i still think it'll be TLTTGYA
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: 73October on July 17, 2017, 12:42:32 PM
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The Best Thing as first single?

Utterly pathetic song, I just have no idea who they are trying to kid - it's not as if it's going to storm the charts, and the only folk who will like it are MOR Radio 2 listeners more suited to Elaine Page and Englebert Humperdinck.

Someone with a bit of creative balls really needs to tell them to get a grip.

They say it's going to be different than the version we have heard - (KYGO remix??).  I'm not enthused about that version - it doesn't sound like U2 to me (I don't even hear Edge's distinctive guitar sounds).  But I am holding out hope that The Best Thing that appears on SOE is quite different - and more interesting - than the one that the public has heard so far - which sounds like something they play over the PA at Forever 21.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZvKS9032Jg

This is probably going to sound closer to the SOE version than the KYGO remix....but the finished band version should have more 'punch' to it than this good effort.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Saint1322 on July 17, 2017, 12:44:20 PM
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The Best Thing as first single?

Utterly pathetic song, I just have no idea who they are trying to kid - it's not as if it's going to storm the charts, and the only folk who will like it are MOR Radio 2 listeners more suited to Elaine Page and Englebert Humperdinck.

Someone with a bit of creative balls really needs to tell them to get a grip.

Really, you've heard the final versions of every song on the album, and you think TBT is a pathetic choice?

I know it sounds like I am being a ****, but to make that statement, you really have to have heard the final version of this song AND everything else on the album. So unless you have, I am not sure why you would want to be so negative about a rumor that is still 6 weeks away from being proved. Are you just trying to avoid the Christmas rush and be miserable early?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on July 17, 2017, 02:48:33 PM
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The Best Thing as first single?

Utterly pathetic song, I just have no idea who they are trying to kid - it's not as if it's going to storm the charts, and the only folk who will like it are MOR Radio 2 listeners more suited to Elaine Page and Englebert Humperdinck.

Someone with a bit of creative balls really needs to tell them to get a grip.

They say it's going to be different than the version we have heard - (KYGO remix??).  I'm not enthused about that version - it doesn't sound like U2 to me (I don't even hear Edge's distinctive guitar sounds).  But I am holding out hope that The Best Thing that appears on SOE is quite different - and more interesting - than the one that the public has heard so far - which sounds like something they play over the PA at Forever 21.

The version from Bonos Beach House clip sounded more stripped down with some electronic element. Steve lillywhite tweeted about finishing mixing their first single around that time. I think that's the album version. Started off with piano.

I think a lot of people don't realize the live kygo on youtube is at his concert. It's a DJ event where he plays nonstop EDM and remixes every song he plays- all songs he has worked on.

The mix u2 will release will have kygo credited and And that mix is the beach house clip.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: jjcruiser on July 17, 2017, 02:55:47 PM
I'd never heard of "listening parties" before and on its face it sounds like a hoax, but it's not April 1, this isn't my area of expertise, and the rest of you seem to believe it, so what do I know.  Assuming it's all or even a little correct, I am encouraged by this news. 

I don't care what the first single is.  I don't think they've gotten that right since "The Fly" so why start now.  I just want a good new album and I'm excited the band has most of the songs finished.

Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on July 17, 2017, 03:09:35 PM
I have a strong suspicion/feeling that this album will be heavily and squarely aimed at having as much 'mass appeal' as possible with songs very deliberately crafted with a pop/MOR lilt.

The band will in their minds see it as a way of riding the wave that the JT nostalgia gigs has created and get them 'hits'.... I can see it being like ATYCLB but even more overtly 'pop rock' and MOR

It will of course be welcomed by many/derided by many but it will IMO be a very good thing for the future of the band because i think it will flop like a wet fish and cause the band to finally give up the chase for hits/radio play/the acceptance of the masses and help usher in a new era of a more mature/deeper/less pop and MOR U2 where the band throw off the shackles of trying to please the masses and produce work that is more in line with an old Bono quote about being a 'badass when he is old'.....More SLABT and less Best Thing!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on July 17, 2017, 04:09:07 PM
Realistically, this album will be like the last two. A mixed bag of good and bad songs. Nothing that stands out as spectacular. U2 will probably choose the wrong songs as singles. They'all praise SOE as their best work yet. Then as the tour progresses, they'll drop more and more SOE material in favor of older hits like MW, EBTTRT, AIWIY, etc. if u2 refuses to tour without a new album, we're looking at 2024 as a realistic date for when we'll hear from th again. That will certainly be the last.

I don't think this will be the last. But I think it could be. I doubt we'll ever hear invisible live again.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: ZEROpartII on July 17, 2017, 04:14:13 PM
The Light at Home (That I Can't Replace Without the Medium-Sized Ladder I Lent to My Neighbor Francis)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on July 17, 2017, 04:18:05 PM
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I have a strong suspicion/feeling that this album will be heavily and squarely aimed at having as much 'mass appeal' as possible with songs very deliberately crafted with a pop/MOR lilt.

The band will in their minds see it as a way of riding the wave that the JT nostalgia gigs has created and get them 'hits'.... I can see it being like ATYCLB but even more overtly 'pop rock' and MOR

It will of course be welcomed by many/derided by many but it will IMO be a very good thing for the future of the band because i think it will flop like a wet fish and cause the band to finally give up the chase for hits/radio play/the acceptance of the masses and help usher in a new era of a more mature/deeper/less pop and MOR U2 where the band throw off the shackles of trying to please the masses and produce work that is more in line with an old Bono quote about being a 'badass when he is old'.....More SLABT and less Best Thing!

You've just summarised the last two album cycles? And yes, everything is pointing to a repeat of this for experience.

I don't expect anything great anymore, and I don't think it makes too much difference how it's wrapped up sonically.. a melody that grates, is a melody that grates..  a clunky verse is a clunky verse..

I would like them to go experimental in a passengers sense.. That way they can go mental in a studio and not worry about killer choruses, more music less focus on the 'song'
But it will never happen, they are far too in love with guitars and the craft of traditional song writing. Nothing wrong with that, but even they have to admit, they can't write em like they used to!

Any release is welcome at this point, I'll happily take what I can get and won't be surprised if it's far removed from their best work.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: LovableLadFromLiverpool on July 17, 2017, 05:46:15 PM
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"The Light at Home has been mentioned by The Edge as one of the songs he’s loving on the new album" - now I am anxious to hear this song!

I'm glad "You're the best thing about me" isn't the single.  and I'm glad it will be a more U2 sounding song.  Phew!

Single release day in September? Album release December 1st on World Aids Day?  I think it's true this time.

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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on July 17, 2017, 06:10:43 PM
I fully expect an ATYCLB/SOI hybrid with the next release.

The majority of the songs will be crappy. As usual, however, we will be treated with an interesting track or two (like New York or Sleep Like a Baby Tonight). Expect a few uplifting and upbeat faux-anthems like The Best Thing mixed in with your typical "Little Things-esque" slow-burners.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: trevgreg on July 17, 2017, 10:22:54 PM
Seems like the hipster street cred arguments are in full force as of late...  :-\
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: jjcruiser on July 17, 2017, 11:11:31 PM
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Seems like the hipster street cred arguments are in full force as of late...  :-\

Amen.

Sometimes it sounds to me like some of the more hardcore fans on here (and outside this forum I'm considered to be that by everyone that knows me), aren't really interested in U2 songs sounding good anymore.  It's about pushing the envelope into abstraction. 

Personally I think all their albums have been beautiful and brilliant *except* for Passengers, which except for YBR and MS was no more than lousy ambiguous self indulgence.  If they can manage to make something crossed between All You Can't and SOI, I'll be thrilled out of my mind.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on July 17, 2017, 11:26:19 PM
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"The Light at Home has been mentioned by The Edge as one of the songs he’s loving on the new album" - now I am anxious to hear this song!

I'm glad "You're the best thing about me" isn't the single.  and I'm glad it will be a more U2 sounding song.  Phew!

Single release day in September? Album release December 1st on World Aids Day?  I think it's true this time.

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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on July 17, 2017, 11:45:03 PM
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Seems like the hipster street cred arguments are in full force as of late...  :-\

Amen.

Sometimes it sounds to me like some of the more hardcore fans on here (and outside this forum I'm considered to be that by everyone that knows me), aren't really interested in U2 songs sounding good anymore.  It's about pushing the envelope into abstraction. 

Personally I think all their albums have been beautiful and brilliant *except* for Passengers, which except for YBR and MS was no more than lousy ambiguous self indulgence.  If they can manage to make something crossed between All You Can't and SOI, I'll be thrilled out of my mind.

i was thrilled with ATYCLB when it came out but all these years later i don't like but maybe 2 or 3 of the songs enough to really seek out a listen. the MDH stuff i still love though.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Saint1322 on July 18, 2017, 07:35:48 AM
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I'd never heard of "listening parties" before and on its face it sounds like a hoax, but it's not April 1, this isn't my area of expertise, and the rest of you seem to believe it, so what do I know.  Assuming it's all or even a little correct, I am encouraged by this news. 

I don't care what the first single is.  I don't think they've gotten that right since "The Fly" so why start now.  I just want a good new album and I'm excited the band has most of the songs finished.



Prince used to to do this kind of thing at Paisley Park all the time. He'd have parties -- sometimes DJing them himself -- and invite friends and fans in to listen and dance, and often he folded in his own unheard material. I've never really heard of U2 doing this in such an organized fashion.

As much as the timeline mentioned in the story makes sense -- almost TOO MUCH sense -- these listening parties have been going on for HOW LONG and we are just now getting wind of them taking place? And our own beloved @U2 never had a source reporting on them? That seems kind of dubious, but at the same time, believable.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Johnny Feathers on July 18, 2017, 07:41:08 AM
So let me get this straight:

We've moved from: "U2 delayed their next album for a cash-in tour celebrating an old album!  They're catering to the casuals!  Their spent as a creative force!  I'd much rather they release SOE than do a nostalgia tour!", to: "SOE is gonna be MOR!  They're deliberately crafting a single to be a radio hit!  It's probably not gonna be very good!"

Does anyone else see the irony of both of these arguments coming from the very same people?  "How dare they not release their album!  Their next album's probably gonna suck!"  I even pointed this out when the complaints first started rolling in with the JTJT17 tour announcement.  And this is from a guy who's been hit and miss with their recent work. 
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Saint1322 on July 18, 2017, 07:57:39 AM
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So let me get this straight:

We've moved from: "U2 delayed their next album for a cash-in tour celebrating an old album!  They're catering to the casuals!  Their spent as a creative force!  I'd much rather they release SOE than do a nostalgia tour!", to: "SOE is gonna be MOR!  They're deliberately crafting a single to be a radio hit!  It's probably not gonna be very good!"

Does anyone else see the irony of both of these arguments coming from the very same people?  "How dare they not release their album!  Their next album's probably gonna suck!"  I even pointed this out when the complaints first started rolling in with the JTJT17 tour announcement.  And this is from a guy who's been hit and miss with their recent work. 

Yes, I absolutely see it. These folks evidently demand nothing short of ground-breaking brilliance and re-invention (while still sounding like U2) or they are ready to burn the world down.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: dontwantwhatideserve on July 18, 2017, 08:04:22 AM
My prediction, something akin to Sgt. Peppers...a collection of band-themed, personal singles that cover a range of styles. ATYCLB was their Abbey Road after POP. They've never had an album with a wide range of styles...just albums with a range of songs trying to please everyone. To defend the disenchanted but hopeful AB/Z/Pop-era fans (of which I'm one), I don't think we need the sound of that era, as much as we need the freshness. At their best, U2 has been a hit-oriented-band that with a curious nature. At their worst, they've been a U2 formula through a blender...or even worse, chasing after a sound or note they can't pull off anymore. TLTTGYA has nice lyrics and potential. TBT could be a great throw-away single...as long as it's more Holy Joe and less The Miracle. I like most of SOI, but The Miracle is such a weak start. It says "Welcome to Apple (not The Big Apple)." I wish we'd get more than 12 songs--maybe some extras in remix form only. Just my thoughts...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: lorijane on July 18, 2017, 08:07:22 AM
Ya know, I hear a lot about how U2 should make the music they want to make, and it seems they want to make music that has a wide appeal.  Of courae there are U2 songs I like more than others, but at this point I have few expectations.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on July 18, 2017, 08:11:43 AM
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So let me get this straight:

We've moved from: "U2 delayed their next album for a cash-in tour celebrating an old album!  They're catering to the casuals!  Their spent as a creative force!  I'd much rather they release SOE than do a nostalgia tour!", to: "SOE is gonna be MOR!  They're deliberately crafting a single to be a radio hit!  It's probably not gonna be very good!"

Does anyone else see the irony of both of these arguments coming from the very same people?  "How dare they not release their album!  Their next album's probably gonna suck!"  I even pointed this out when the complaints first started rolling in with the JTJT17 tour announcement.  And this is from a guy who's been hit and miss with their recent work.

I'll address the MOR part as that is clearly aimed at me...

Yes - I do think it will be a very MOR record - but that is absolutely their right as a band to release what they want when they want... what i or anyone else think it will sound like is an opinion and it may or may not be a good shout we won't know until it is released...and even then it is subjective isn't it. 

I am strongly of the view that this album will be almost like a last big swing for a massive hit, where they will very deliberately load up every trick they know when it comes to looking for the biggest possible mass reach and it will be a very, very overtly pop rock/MOR record.....i also stand by saying it won't have the impact they hope and will be a watershed that ushers in a new direction for them - a new modus operandi.

Now instead of just slagging others opinions (you know the very thing that discussion of forums are built on) what is yours about what the album may be like?

I can't answer the 'won't be very good' part you mention either as that wasn't me....

You'll also NEVER hear me moaning about not releasing an album etc so I can't answer for that either - i've long said that for a band who average a record about every 4 years or so over the last 25 years that we aren't quite 3 years removed from the last one so anything at all in next few months is well ahead of 'normal service' and frankly to expect anything else outside of such a well set pattern is a little foolish...as it happens it looks like they will get an album out just over 3 years after the last one so that has to be seen as a bonus regardless of how good, bad or indifferent people may find it when it is released.


Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: georgemccauley on July 18, 2017, 08:19:51 AM
All I'm hoping for with SOE is for it to be more of a rock record!


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Saint1322 on July 18, 2017, 08:24:21 AM
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Ya know, I hear a lot about how U2 should make the music they want to make, and it seems they want to make music that has a wide appeal.  Of courae there are U2 songs I like more than others, but at this point I have few expectations.

I've never known U2 to be a quiet little indie band, and I have never known them to play that fake, po-faced, we don't want to be big crap like the grunge bands and Radiohead. I'm not sure what about U2 seeking mass appeal is new.

Ironically enough, Pop was U2 actively and unabashedly chasing the sound that was popular at the time, and look at the disaster than ensued. The rest of the time, when they have been popular, it is because the world came to them. U2's music is typically soaring and inspiring or emotional and thought-provoking, and that attracts people.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on July 18, 2017, 08:33:12 AM
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Ya know, I hear a lot about how U2 should make the music they want to make, and it seems they want to make music that has a wide appeal.  Of courae there are U2 songs I like more than others, but at this point I have few expectations.

I've never known U2 to be a quiet little indie band, and I have never known them to play that fake, po-faced, we don't want to be big crap like the grunge bands and Radiohead. I'm not sure what about U2 seeking mass appeal is new.

Ironically enough, Pop was U2 actively and unabashedly chasing the sound that was popular at the time, and look at the disaster than ensued. The rest of the time, when they have been popular, it is because the world came to them. U2's music is typically soaring and inspiring or emotional and thought-provoking, and that attracts people.

What is this 'fake crap' you talk about with radiohead - I am really interested to know...


Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: aviastar on July 18, 2017, 08:38:39 AM
I do think maybe we should let them release it before we start tearing it apart.  I mean, it might be good, folks :P

I have high hopes...I really liked SOI so I think the band is still going in a good direction for their status, and place in rock.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: MPare1966 on July 18, 2017, 09:11:39 AM
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I do think maybe we should let them release it before we start tearing it apart.  I mean, it might be good, folks :P



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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Johnny Feathers on July 18, 2017, 09:14:20 AM
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So let me get this straight:

We've moved from: "U2 delayed their next album for a cash-in tour celebrating an old album!  They're catering to the casuals!  Their spent as a creative force!  I'd much rather they release SOE than do a nostalgia tour!", to: "SOE is gonna be MOR!  They're deliberately crafting a single to be a radio hit!  It's probably not gonna be very good!"

Does anyone else see the irony of both of these arguments coming from the very same people?  "How dare they not release their album!  Their next album's probably gonna suck!"  I even pointed this out when the complaints first started rolling in with the JTJT17 tour announcement.  And this is from a guy who's been hit and miss with their recent work.

I'll address the MOR part as that is clearly aimed at me...

Yes - I do think it will be a very MOR record - but that is absolutely their right as a band to release what they want when they want... what i or anyone else think it will sound like is an opinion and it may or may not be a good shout we won't know until it is released...and even then it is subjective isn't it. 

I am strongly of the view that this album will be almost like a last big swing for a massive hit, where they will very deliberately load up every trick they know when it comes to looking for the biggest possible mass reach and it will be a very, very overtly pop rock/MOR record.....i also stand by saying it won't have the impact they hope and will be a watershed that ushers in a new direction for them - a new modus operandi.

Now instead of just slagging others opinions (you know the very thing that discussion of forums are built on) what is yours about what the album may be like?

I can't answer the 'won't be very good' part you mention either as that wasn't me....

You'll also NEVER hear me moaning about not releasing an album etc so I can't answer for that either - i've long said that for a band who average a record about every 4 years or so over the last 25 years that we aren't quite 3 years removed from the last one so anything at all in next few months is well ahead of 'normal service' and frankly to expect anything else outside of such a well set pattern is a little foolish...as it happens it looks like they will get an album out just over 3 years after the last one so that has to be seen as a bonus regardless of how good, bad or indifferent people may find it when it is released.




I try not to criticize anyone for expressing an opinion--of course, that's what we're all here for.  It's more just the consistent slagging the band gets, no matter what they do--or in this case, haven't even done yet.  And I may be wrong, but I would swear some of the people who criticized the band for "delaying" SOE are already complaining that SOE won't be very good anyway.

In truth, my guess about the next album isn't much different than yours.  But they've been MOR for upwards of 17 years now.  They've settled into a sound, more or less, since ATYCLB.  And every album in that period, and honestly, even BEFORE that period, has had a carefully crafted single aimed straight for radio.  Whether or not they've been successful is another matter, but The Miracle, EBW, Invisible, Crazy Tonight, GOYB, Vertigo, Beautiful Day, and Elevation all share that in common.  And they even share it with Staring at the Sun, Mysterious Ways, and One.

I also haven't been REALLY moved by a U2 album in some time, and that's fine.  I'm not expecting Achtung Baby, no.  But I'm also not complaining about them touring TJT17.  I know their time won't last forever, and I'm comfortable hearing one of my favorite albums live while they're still around to do it.  I'm probably more interested in that stuff than their new stuff these days.

I guess I'd just say, one: is anyone really expecting something different with their next album?  And two: is it even worth criticizing until they release it?

Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on July 18, 2017, 09:41:27 AM
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So let me get this straight:

We've moved from: "U2 delayed their next album for a cash-in tour celebrating an old album!  They're catering to the casuals!  Their spent as a creative force!  I'd much rather they release SOE than do a nostalgia tour!", to: "SOE is gonna be MOR!  They're deliberately crafting a single to be a radio hit!  It's probably not gonna be very good!"

Does anyone else see the irony of both of these arguments coming from the very same people?  "How dare they not release their album!  Their next album's probably gonna suck!"  I even pointed this out when the complaints first started rolling in with the JTJT17 tour announcement.  And this is from a guy who's been hit and miss with their recent work.

I'll address the MOR part as that is clearly aimed at me...

Yes - I do think it will be a very MOR record - but that is absolutely their right as a band to release what they want when they want... what i or anyone else think it will sound like is an opinion and it may or may not be a good shout we won't know until it is released...and even then it is subjective isn't it. 

I am strongly of the view that this album will be almost like a last big swing for a massive hit, where they will very deliberately load up every trick they know when it comes to looking for the biggest possible mass reach and it will be a very, very overtly pop rock/MOR record.....i also stand by saying it won't have the impact they hope and will be a watershed that ushers in a new direction for them - a new modus operandi.

Now instead of just slagging others opinions (you know the very thing that discussion of forums are built on) what is yours about what the album may be like?

I can't answer the 'won't be very good' part you mention either as that wasn't me....

You'll also NEVER hear me moaning about not releasing an album etc so I can't answer for that either - i've long said that for a band who average a record about every 4 years or so over the last 25 years that we aren't quite 3 years removed from the last one so anything at all in next few months is well ahead of 'normal service' and frankly to expect anything else outside of such a well set pattern is a little foolish...as it happens it looks like they will get an album out just over 3 years after the last one so that has to be seen as a bonus regardless of how good, bad or indifferent people may find it when it is released.




I try not to criticize anyone for expressing an opinion--of course, that's what we're all here for.  It's more just the consistent slagging the band gets, no matter what they do--or in this case, haven't even done yet.  And I may be wrong, but I would swear some of the people who criticized the band for "delaying" SOE are already complaining that SOE won't be very good anyway.

In truth, my guess about the next album isn't much different than yours.  But they've been MOR for upwards of 17 years now.  They've settled into a sound, more or less, since ATYCLB.  And every album in that period, and honestly, even BEFORE that period, has had a carefully crafted single aimed straight for radio.  Whether or not they've been successful is another matter, but The Miracle, EBW, Invisible, Crazy Tonight, GOYB, Vertigo, Beautiful Day, and Elevation all share that in common.  And they even share it with Staring at the Sun, Mysterious Ways, and One.

I also haven't been REALLY moved by a U2 album in some time, and that's fine.  I'm not expecting Achtung Baby, no.  But I'm also not complaining about them touring TJT17.  I know their time won't last forever, and I'm comfortable hearing one of my favorite albums live while they're still around to do it.  I'm probably more interested in that stuff than their new stuff these days.

I guess I'd just say, one: is anyone really expecting something different with their next album?  And two: is it even worth criticizing until they release it?

Oh An Tha loves to be critical of the band these days, take it with a pinch of salt! I look forward to hearing SOE.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on July 18, 2017, 09:57:46 AM
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So let me get this straight:

We've moved from: "U2 delayed their next album for a cash-in tour celebrating an old album!  They're catering to the casuals!  Their spent as a creative force!  I'd much rather they release SOE than do a nostalgia tour!", to: "SOE is gonna be MOR!  They're deliberately crafting a single to be a radio hit!  It's probably not gonna be very good!"

Does anyone else see the irony of both of these arguments coming from the very same people?  "How dare they not release their album!  Their next album's probably gonna suck!"  I even pointed this out when the complaints first started rolling in with the JTJT17 tour announcement.  And this is from a guy who's been hit and miss with their recent work.

I'll address the MOR part as that is clearly aimed at me...

Yes - I do think it will be a very MOR record - but that is absolutely their right as a band to release what they want when they want... what i or anyone else think it will sound like is an opinion and it may or may not be a good shout we won't know until it is released...and even then it is subjective isn't it. 

I am strongly of the view that this album will be almost like a last big swing for a massive hit, where they will very deliberately load up every trick they know when it comes to looking for the biggest possible mass reach and it will be a very, very overtly pop rock/MOR record.....i also stand by saying it won't have the impact they hope and will be a watershed that ushers in a new direction for them - a new modus operandi.

Now instead of just slagging others opinions (you know the very thing that discussion of forums are built on) what is yours about what the album may be like?

I can't answer the 'won't be very good' part you mention either as that wasn't me....

You'll also NEVER hear me moaning about not releasing an album etc so I can't answer for that either - i've long said that for a band who average a record about every 4 years or so over the last 25 years that we aren't quite 3 years removed from the last one so anything at all in next few months is well ahead of 'normal service' and frankly to expect anything else outside of such a well set pattern is a little foolish...as it happens it looks like they will get an album out just over 3 years after the last one so that has to be seen as a bonus regardless of how good, bad or indifferent people may find it when it is released.




I try not to criticize anyone for expressing an opinion--of course, that's what we're all here for.  It's more just the consistent slagging the band gets, no matter what they do--or in this case, haven't even done yet.  And I may be wrong, but I would swear some of the people who criticized the band for "delaying" SOE are already complaining that SOE won't be very good anyway.

In truth, my guess about the next album isn't much different than yours.  But they've been MOR for upwards of 17 years now.  They've settled into a sound, more or less, since ATYCLB.  And every album in that period, and honestly, even BEFORE that period, has had a carefully crafted single aimed straight for radio.  Whether or not they've been successful is another matter, but The Miracle, EBW, Invisible, Crazy Tonight, GOYB, Vertigo, Beautiful Day, and Elevation all share that in common.  And they even share it with Staring at the Sun, Mysterious Ways, and One.

I also haven't been REALLY moved by a U2 album in some time, and that's fine.  I'm not expecting Achtung Baby, no.  But I'm also not complaining about them touring TJT17.  I know their time won't last forever, and I'm comfortable hearing one of my favorite albums live while they're still around to do it.  I'm probably more interested in that stuff than their new stuff these days.

I guess I'd just say, one: is anyone really expecting something different with their next album?  And two: is it even worth criticizing until they release it?

Reasonable points - i like reading stuff like you have written here, it helps get interesting discussion going more...

For what it is worth i personally have no issue with the JT nostalgia thing - i found it an ok show and we all know (well pretty much we think we do) why they are doing it.

I am not at all against those kind of shows anyway i have seen a few and some have been among the best shows i have ever seen....Manics Holy Bible for example.

As far as u2's musical direction goes it is always going to get churned over and over and over in here and i suppose the same stuff will be said again and again and again.

I look at it like this now - I still do wish the band would be more 'experimental' or 'darker' i do personally want more SLABT and less SFS for example - I do wish they would step away from pop rock I personally prefer Cedars to Crazy Tonight....but that is just my own taste and there is plenty of artists out there making music i love....

I listen to that and i am happy with that and if u2 add something to that then great. I liked a lot of SOI for example.

U2 will put out what they put out and what i hope for or want whilst of some interest on here maybe to some and as a way of wasting time for me because i enjoy wasting time on here is ultimately irrelevant - the new u2 album when it arrives will be what it is and i look forward to the endless discussion of it on here and the inevitable differing opinions etc as the cycle repeats and moves on to the next record...and so on!

If the album hits home a little, a lot or not at all with each of us it does not really matter that much it will be different for all of us - but we'll all be here chatting about it, arguing about it, and so on....and there is of course nothing wrong with that.

I don't expect a new u2 album to blow me away totally now, but i am also not going to just assume it will be rubbish without hearing it - i'll find it how i find it and be honest about how i feel about it whether i find it good, bad or indifferent or a mixed bag or the greatest thing ever....it will be my own view like yours will be yours and anyone elses will be anyone elses.....nobody is right, nobody is wrong.

Let the fun begin!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on July 18, 2017, 10:02:33 AM
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So let me get this straight:

We've moved from: "U2 delayed their next album for a cash-in tour celebrating an old album!  They're catering to the casuals!  Their spent as a creative force!  I'd much rather they release SOE than do a nostalgia tour!", to: "SOE is gonna be MOR!  They're deliberately crafting a single to be a radio hit!  It's probably not gonna be very good!"

Does anyone else see the irony of both of these arguments coming from the very same people?  "How dare they not release their album!  Their next album's probably gonna suck!"  I even pointed this out when the complaints first started rolling in with the JTJT17 tour announcement.  And this is from a guy who's been hit and miss with their recent work.

I'll address the MOR part as that is clearly aimed at me...

Yes - I do think it will be a very MOR record - but that is absolutely their right as a band to release what they want when they want... what i or anyone else think it will sound like is an opinion and it may or may not be a good shout we won't know until it is released...and even then it is subjective isn't it. 

I am strongly of the view that this album will be almost like a last big swing for a massive hit, where they will very deliberately load up every trick they know when it comes to looking for the biggest possible mass reach and it will be a very, very overtly pop rock/MOR record.....i also stand by saying it won't have the impact they hope and will be a watershed that ushers in a new direction for them - a new modus operandi.

Now instead of just slagging others opinions (you know the very thing that discussion of forums are built on) what is yours about what the album may be like?

I can't answer the 'won't be very good' part you mention either as that wasn't me....

You'll also NEVER hear me moaning about not releasing an album etc so I can't answer for that either - i've long said that for a band who average a record about every 4 years or so over the last 25 years that we aren't quite 3 years removed from the last one so anything at all in next few months is well ahead of 'normal service' and frankly to expect anything else outside of such a well set pattern is a little foolish...as it happens it looks like they will get an album out just over 3 years after the last one so that has to be seen as a bonus regardless of how good, bad or indifferent people may find it when it is released.




I try not to criticize anyone for expressing an opinion--of course, that's what we're all here for.  It's more just the consistent slagging the band gets, no matter what they do--or in this case, haven't even done yet.  And I may be wrong, but I would swear some of the people who criticized the band for "delaying" SOE are already complaining that SOE won't be very good anyway.

In truth, my guess about the next album isn't much different than yours.  But they've been MOR for upwards of 17 years now.  They've settled into a sound, more or less, since ATYCLB.  And every album in that period, and honestly, even BEFORE that period, has had a carefully crafted single aimed straight for radio.  Whether or not they've been successful is another matter, but The Miracle, EBW, Invisible, Crazy Tonight, GOYB, Vertigo, Beautiful Day, and Elevation all share that in common.  And they even share it with Staring at the Sun, Mysterious Ways, and One.

I also haven't been REALLY moved by a U2 album in some time, and that's fine.  I'm not expecting Achtung Baby, no.  But I'm also not complaining about them touring TJT17.  I know their time won't last forever, and I'm comfortable hearing one of my favorite albums live while they're still around to do it.  I'm probably more interested in that stuff than their new stuff these days.

I guess I'd just say, one: is anyone really expecting something different with their next album?  And two: is it even worth criticizing until they release it?

Oh An Tha loves to be critical of the band these days, take it with a pinch of salt! I look forward to hearing SOE.

And there is the very antithesis of good and interesting discussion/debate.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on July 18, 2017, 11:21:29 AM
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So let me get this straight:

We've moved from: "U2 delayed their next album for a cash-in tour celebrating an old album!  They're catering to the casuals!  Their spent as a creative force!  I'd much rather they release SOE than do a nostalgia tour!", to: "SOE is gonna be MOR!  They're deliberately crafting a single to be a radio hit!  It's probably not gonna be very good!"

Does anyone else see the irony of both of these arguments coming from the very same people?  "How dare they not release their album!  Their next album's probably gonna suck!"  I even pointed this out when the complaints first started rolling in with the JTJT17 tour announcement.  And this is from a guy who's been hit and miss with their recent work.

I'll address the MOR part as that is clearly aimed at me...

Yes - I do think it will be a very MOR record - but that is absolutely their right as a band to release what they want when they want... what i or anyone else think it will sound like is an opinion and it may or may not be a good shout we won't know until it is released...and even then it is subjective isn't it. 

I am strongly of the view that this album will be almost like a last big swing for a massive hit, where they will very deliberately load up every trick they know when it comes to looking for the biggest possible mass reach and it will be a very, very overtly pop rock/MOR record.....i also stand by saying it won't have the impact they hope and will be a watershed that ushers in a new direction for them - a new modus operandi.

Now instead of just slagging others opinions (you know the very thing that discussion of forums are built on) what is yours about what the album may be like?

I can't answer the 'won't be very good' part you mention either as that wasn't me....

You'll also NEVER hear me moaning about not releasing an album etc so I can't answer for that either - i've long said that for a band who average a record about every 4 years or so over the last 25 years that we aren't quite 3 years removed from the last one so anything at all in next few months is well ahead of 'normal service' and frankly to expect anything else outside of such a well set pattern is a little foolish...as it happens it looks like they will get an album out just over 3 years after the last one so that has to be seen as a bonus regardless of how good, bad or indifferent people may find it when it is released.




I try not to criticize anyone for expressing an opinion--of course, that's what we're all here for.  It's more just the consistent slagging the band gets, no matter what they do--or in this case, haven't even done yet.  And I may be wrong, but I would swear some of the people who criticized the band for "delaying" SOE are already complaining that SOE won't be very good anyway.

In truth, my guess about the next album isn't much different than yours.  But they've been MOR for upwards of 17 years now.  They've settled into a sound, more or less, since ATYCLB.  And every album in that period, and honestly, even BEFORE that period, has had a carefully crafted single aimed straight for radio.  Whether or not they've been successful is another matter, but The Miracle, EBW, Invisible, Crazy Tonight, GOYB, Vertigo, Beautiful Day, and Elevation all share that in common.  And they even share it with Staring at the Sun, Mysterious Ways, and One.

I also haven't been REALLY moved by a U2 album in some time, and that's fine.  I'm not expecting Achtung Baby, no.  But I'm also not complaining about them touring TJT17.  I know their time won't last forever, and I'm comfortable hearing one of my favorite albums live while they're still around to do it.  I'm probably more interested in that stuff than their new stuff these days.

I guess I'd just say, one: is anyone really expecting something different with their next album?  And two: is it even worth criticizing until they release it?

Oh An Tha loves to be critical of the band these days, take it with a pinch of salt! I look forward to hearing SOE.

And there is the very antithesis of good and interesting discussion/debate.

There it is!


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: jjcruiser on July 18, 2017, 11:23:59 AM
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Seems like the hipster street cred arguments are in full force as of late...  :-\

Amen.

Sometimes it sounds to me like some of the more hardcore fans on here (and outside this forum I'm considered to be that by everyone that knows me), aren't really interested in U2 songs sounding good anymore.  It's about pushing the envelope into abstraction. 

Personally I think all their albums have been beautiful and brilliant *except* for Passengers, which except for YBR and MS was no more than lousy ambiguous self indulgence.  If they can manage to make something crossed between All You Can't and SOI, I'll be thrilled out of my mind.

i was thrilled with ATYCLB when it came out but all these years later i don't like but maybe 2 or 3 of the songs enough to really seek out a listen. the MDH stuff i still love though.

I don't know what MDH" stands for (or MOR which everyone keeps using to, for that matter), but I have different impression.  I think I listen to ATYCLB and HTDAAB more than the others.  Maybe it's just a phase though. 

It would be nice to have a new album.  It's all gravy at this point.  But I like gravy.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on July 18, 2017, 11:32:01 AM
the *sigh* SOE will be more MOR pop rock radio catering songs AND the JT tour as nostalgia cash grab have both been around since the start of the year.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: 73October on July 18, 2017, 11:38:13 AM
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I do think maybe we should let them release it before we start tearing it apart.  I mean, it might be good, folks :P



^
This

And this.....
I'm gonna buy it - it's by the best band in the world right now.  What's not to like?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: aviastar on July 18, 2017, 11:44:48 AM
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I don't know what MDH" stands for (or MOR which everyone keeps using to, for that matter), but I have different impression.  I think I listen to ATYCLB and HTDAAB more than the others.  Maybe it's just a phase though. 

It would be nice to have a new album.  It's all gravy at this point.  But I like gravy.

MDH = Million Dollar Hotel Soundtrack, which included some great U2 songs Stateless, The Ground Beneath Her Feet (which was not included on the US version of ATYCLB), and Never Let Me Go.  Pretty crappy movie though - Bono wrote the initial script but it probably got chewed up in the Hollywood script machine.

MOR = Middle of the Road.  Commercial, radio-friendly, appeals to the masses.  Meant as an insult but I don't always think it is.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on July 18, 2017, 12:29:35 PM
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Seems like the hipster street cred arguments are in full force as of late...  :-\

I would argue that no hipsters listen to u2 period. It was probably acceptable to listen to boy and post punk period u2 back in 2004/5..

I think some fans just like and worship anything u2 release, and offer little in the way of critique. Others like to be challenged a little more and know that u2 are capable of being musical chameleons to suit just about any genre, and wish for a departure from the sound of late.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: xy on July 18, 2017, 12:39:34 PM
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So let me get this straight:

We've moved from: "U2 delayed their next album for a cash-in tour celebrating an old album!  They're catering to the casuals!  Their spent as a creative force!  I'd much rather they release SOE than do a nostalgia tour!", to: "SOE is gonna be MOR!  They're deliberately crafting a single to be a radio hit!  It's probably not gonna be very good!"

Does anyone else see the irony of both of these arguments coming from the very same people?  "How dare they not release their album!  Their next album's probably gonna suck!"  I even pointed this out when the complaints first started rolling in with the JTJT17 tour announcement.  And this is from a guy who's been hit and miss with their recent work. 

The irony is fine indeed. "U2 sucks for delaying their album!" / "U2's new album will suck!" ad infinitum moaning since ATYCLB, with a sprinkle of "but U2 should make the music they want!".
Since U2 doesn't have a problem with having SLABT or SOE both on the same album, I don't see why some of their fans can't embrace different sides of the band.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: jjcruiser on July 18, 2017, 12:49:33 PM
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I don't know what MDH" stands for (or MOR which everyone keeps using to, for that matter), but I have different impression.  I think I listen to ATYCLB and HTDAAB more than the others.  Maybe it's just a phase though. 

It would be nice to have a new album.  It's all gravy at this point.  But I like gravy.

MDH = Million Dollar Hotel Soundtrack, which included some great U2 songs Stateless, The Ground Beneath Her Feet (which was not included on the US version of ATYCLB), and Never Let Me Go.  Pretty crappy movie though - Bono wrote the initial script but it probably got chewed up in the Hollywood script machine.

MOR = Middle of the Road.  Commercial, radio-friendly, appeals to the masses.  Meant as an insult but I don't always think it is.

Thanks.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on July 18, 2017, 01:58:07 PM
And here I was thinking that MOR stood for "Mom-Oriented Rock" this whole time... well, there's not much difference there anyway, right?  :)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: ZEROpartII on July 18, 2017, 02:24:13 PM
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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on July 18, 2017, 02:25:43 PM
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And here I was thinking that MOR stood for "Mom-Oriented Rock" this whole time... well, there's not much difference there anyway, right?  :)
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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: PookaMacP on July 18, 2017, 03:08:17 PM
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So let me get this straight:

We've moved from: "U2 delayed their next album for a cash-in tour celebrating an old album!  They're catering to the casuals!  Their spent as a creative force!  I'd much rather they release SOE than do a nostalgia tour!", to: "SOE is gonna be MOR!  They're deliberately crafting a single to be a radio hit!  It's probably not gonna be very good!"

Does anyone else see the irony of both of these arguments coming from the very same people?  "How dare they not release their album!  Their next album's probably gonna suck!"  I even pointed this out when the complaints first started rolling in with the JTJT17 tour announcement.  And this is from a guy who's been hit and miss with their recent work.

I actually think the two are directly linked: both arguments point to a stunted ambition from a band that was once pushing the boundaries but now has to always second-guess itself.

Having said that, I'd personally much rather they took ten years to make a stellar record than two to make a mediocre one. Let's be honest, we already have as much U2 as we will probably ever need.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: MadRob360 on July 18, 2017, 03:18:40 PM
I've said it a few times now, On a personal level i'm just happy my favourite band is still touring and making new music. The problem a lot of people have i think is that they seem to forget, The guys are in their late 50's now. They've done just about all there is to do in music, They could quite happily call it a day now if they wanted to. I for one don't want 'another achtung baby' or 'another PoP'. 2 of my favourite U2 records of course, But do we need them again? I'm not so sure. And of course, Songs like SLABT and The Troubles are absolute gold to me, The band seemingly letting any pressure of a 'hit' go and just being 4 guys making music again. But on the same note, I'm happy if they want to go for 'hits', In a world where music is now largely manufactured c**p, To me almost anything U2 put out at this point is better than the garbage on most radio stations (some may argue they've had a few garbage singles in recent years - i disagree but n/m). When all is said and done, When this band puts out a record and tours it, I'm happy to go to multiple shows, Because not 1 other band has made me feel like this one when they play live, it's just something else. You can't please everyone, and everyone is fully entitled to an opinion (especially when they're buying records, tickets and merch etc!) But my hope for SOE if i had to give one is just a more cohesive album overall rather than feeling like it's the best bits from several different records put together.  8)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on July 18, 2017, 03:41:43 PM
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So let me get this straight:

We've moved from: "U2 delayed their next album for a cash-in tour celebrating an old album!  They're catering to the casuals!  Their spent as a creative force!  I'd much rather they release SOE than do a nostalgia tour!", to: "SOE is gonna be MOR!  They're deliberately crafting a single to be a radio hit!  It's probably not gonna be very good!"

Does anyone else see the irony of both of these arguments coming from the very same people?  "How dare they not release their album!  Their next album's probably gonna suck!"  I even pointed this out when the complaints first started rolling in with the JTJT17 tour announcement.  And this is from a guy who's been hit and miss with their recent work.

I actually think the two are directly linked: both arguments point to a stunted ambition from a band that was once pushing the boundaries but now has to always second-guess itself.

Having said that, I'd personally much rather they took ten years to make a stellar record than two to make a mediocre one. Let's be honest, we already have as much U2 as we will probably ever need.

I would say they have proven they can spend time on an album and not get it quite right.

It comes down to decision making? They could spend 8 years, get it to a point of what they think is perfection, then make last minute changes, throw in a song that's just been written, pick an absolute dog as the lead single, re write or polish the songs just one more time.. etcetera.

I agree though, they have delivered enough material. Anything else a bonus, but a short lived one. I'm unlikely to revisit any of the last 3 albums in any detail, but always go back to the 80's & 90's stuff and can listen to boy, TUF, JT, AB, POP from start to finish when the mood takes me.

It's because I grew up with these albums, or at least discovered them at an impressionable age, which is in part what makes them great, rather than good..and longevity

I get why they target new younger audiences, it's maximum impact when it pays off. No matter how good new work is, it can't compete with the album that helped you through your turbulent teen years. So why try and target people in their late 30's,40's 50's?

At best it will be semi enthusiastic response from someone that enjoys going through the motions of a new u2 release, only to file it away after a few months of its existence. Tap into a young persons mind and you could create the sound track to their youth.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: jenniferh aka jen on July 18, 2017, 04:11:16 PM
Bono said in Barcelona tonight that the album will be out by the end of the year, according to Edge.

Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on July 18, 2017, 04:13:02 PM
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Bono said in Barcelona tonight that the album will be out by the end of the year, according to Edge.
"I can't say why, but I know I have to believe"...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on July 18, 2017, 04:35:26 PM
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Bono said in Barcelona tonight that the album will be out by the end of the year, according to Edge.

He doesn't want to take the blame anymore.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Albono on July 19, 2017, 03:46:05 AM
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Awesome title!!!  ;D
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: acrobat62 on July 19, 2017, 05:53:44 AM
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Bono said in Barcelona tonight that the album will be out by the end of the year, according to Edge.

I have a very selfish take on this now.  Just found out my son needs braces, major $$$ which likely means if U2 tours of a newly released album in the next year or two, I'll have to miss the for the first time since TJT87 because of $$$, so please let this not be true, delay, delay , delay, if only for me.   :-\ 
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: zoo adam on July 19, 2017, 06:46:55 AM
Don't really like the sound of everything being down to what Edge says & does. Thought U2 were a band.

However I don't blame him for the release delay. The 'band' decided to tour TJT.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: aviastar on July 19, 2017, 07:05:37 AM
I'd be kinda annoyed if I were Edge honestly...I don't actually believe he's the one delaying it and I think Bono uses his love of gear/mixing/tinkering as an excuse for the delay.  I think the real delay is that they weren't happy about it earlier this year, wanted to tinker, and once TJT2017 started they couldn't release it until after.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on July 19, 2017, 07:28:10 AM
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Bono said in Barcelona tonight that the album will be out by the end of the year, according to Edge.

I have a very selfish take on this now.  Just found out my son needs braces, major $$$ which likely means if U2 tours of a newly released album in the next year or two, I'll have to miss the for the first time since TJT87 because of $$$, so please let this not be true, delay, delay , delay, if only for me.   :-\
Ah, Acrobat...sorry to hear about the braces. But, if U2 does tour next spring, you will find  a way...I found a way to see this tour...I'll find a way to see the next tour. We can worry about money in our next life...
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Post by: acrobat62 on July 19, 2017, 07:44:24 AM
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Bono said in Barcelona tonight that the album will be out by the end of the year, according to Edge.

I have a very selfish take on this now.  Just found out my son needs braces, major $$$ which likely means if U2 tours of a newly released album in the next year or two, I'll have to miss the for the first time since TJT87 because of $$$, so please let this not be true, delay, delay , delay, if only for me.   :-\
Ah, Acrobat...sorry to hear about the braces. But, if U2 does tour next spring, you will find  a way...I found a way to see this tour...I'll find a way to see the next tour. We can worry about money in our next life...

Thanks Riffy, I know you made it happen, but unfortunately in this case (since I really want nothing to do with our household budget), I'm not in charge of the budget and my wife is not quite the U2 fan I am, but we'll see.
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Bono said in Barcelona tonight that the album will be out by the end of the year, according to Edge.

I have a very selfish take on this now.  Just found out my son needs braces, major $$$ which likely means if U2 tours of a newly released album in the next year or two, I'll have to miss the for the first time since TJT87 because of $$$, so please let this not be true, delay, delay , delay, if only for me.   :-\
Ah, Acrobat...sorry to hear about the braces. But, if U2 does tour next spring, you will find  a way...I found a way to see this tour...I'll find a way to see the next tour. We can worry about money in our next life...

Thanks Riffy, I know you made it happen, but unfortunately in this case (since I really want nothing to do with our household budget), I'm not in charge of the budget and my wife is not quite the U2 fan I am, but we'll see.
You can do it! My guy is the main money-maker in our home...and I just right out told him I was going..."with or without" him. I know money is always an issue, but if I can do it, you sure can. Stupid braces.  >:(
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: zoo adam on July 19, 2017, 08:23:07 AM
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I'd be kinda annoyed if I were Edge honestly...I don't actually believe he's the one delaying it and I think Bono uses his love of gear/mixing/tinkering as an excuse for the delay.  I think the real delay is that they weren't happy about it earlier this year, wanted to tinker, and once TJT2017 started they couldn't release it until after.

They couldn't release SOE before TJT tour unless it was released in about 2015. As they would have to do a year long SOE tour prior to a 2017 JT tour. That would be a awful lot of non stop touring.

The record company would not be pleased if they released SOE in 2016/17 & then either delayed a promotional world tour by 6 months, or halted the SOE tour in mid flow for 6 months because of the TJT tour. Again that's a lot of non stop touring.

U2 should be keen to fully focus on just a SOE tour if they believe in the material.

So the only option is to complete TJT tour & release SOE some time afterwards.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: jrodr079 on July 19, 2017, 09:23:51 AM
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Bono said in Barcelona tonight that the album will be out by the end of the year, according to Edge.

I have a very selfish take on this now.  Just found out my son needs braces, major $$$ which likely means if U2 tours of a newly released album in the next year or two, I'll have to miss the for the first time since TJT87 because of $$$, so please let this not be true, delay, delay , delay, if only for me.   :-\
Ah, Acrobat...sorry to hear about the braces. But, if U2 does tour next spring, you will find  a way...I found a way to see this tour...I'll find a way to see the next tour. We can worry about money in our next life...

Thanks Riffy, I know you made it happen, but unfortunately in this case (since I really want nothing to do with our household budget), I'm not in charge of the budget and my wife is not quite the U2 fan I am, but we'll see.

I've been married 3 years this October, I refuse to give 100% budget decisions to the wife because of this. You have to stand your ground with some things that make you as a man fullfiled.

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Bono said in Barcelona tonight that the album will be out by the end of the year, according to Edge.

I have a very selfish take on this now.  Just found out my son needs braces, major $$$ which likely means if U2 tours of a newly released album in the next year or two, I'll have to miss the for the first time since TJT87 because of $$$, so please let this not be true, delay, delay , delay, if only for me.   :-\
Ah, Acrobat...sorry to hear about the braces. But, if U2 does tour next spring, you will find  a way...I found a way to see this tour...I'll find a way to see the next tour. We can worry about money in our next life...

Thanks Riffy, I know you made it happen, but unfortunately in this case (since I really want nothing to do with our household budget), I'm not in charge of the budget and my wife is not quite the U2 fan I am, but we'll see.

I've been married 3 years this October, I refuse to give 100% budget decisions to the wife because of this. You have to stand your ground with some things that make you as a man fullfiled.
Well, every household is different...but we DO have to set priorities. And, yes, U2 should be one of those priorities. ::)
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Post by: acrobat62 on July 19, 2017, 09:44:13 AM
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Bono said in Barcelona tonight that the album will be out by the end of the year, according to Edge.

I have a very selfish take on this now.  Just found out my son needs braces, major $$$ which likely means if U2 tours of a newly released album in the next year or two, I'll have to miss the for the first time since TJT87 because of $$$, so please let this not be true, delay, delay , delay, if only for me.   :-\
Ah, Acrobat...sorry to hear about the braces. But, if U2 does tour next spring, you will find  a way...I found a way to see this tour...I'll find a way to see the next tour. We can worry about money in our next life...

Thanks Riffy, I know you made it happen, but unfortunately in this case (since I really want nothing to do with our household budget), I'm not in charge of the budget and my wife is not quite the U2 fan I am, but we'll see.

I've been married 3 years this October, I refuse to give 100% budget decisions to the wife because of this. You have to stand your ground with some things that make you as a man fullfiled.

Let me know how that's working for you after 25+ years of marriage as I have been.  Yes, each situation, household, circumstances are different.  I really just had very little interest in balancing the books, and she does a wonderful job getting us through some really tough circumstances over the years.  If that means we miss 1 U2 show in 30 years, I may have to live with that.

I can still root for the delay though....... 8)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: georgemccauley on July 19, 2017, 01:08:57 PM
December 1st is the magical day peeps
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Bono said in Barcelona tonight that the album will be out by the end of the year, according to Edge.

Bono on stage in Barecelona - "guys the Edge said that SOE will be out in December, ok how about spanish lessons! UNO...DOS..."
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Post by: bass slap on July 19, 2017, 01:22:27 PM
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December 1st is the magical day peeps

Yes, usually an uneventful cheap time of year.. oh no wait, I'm 'a Christian'.. well, maybe a far fetched claim but I subscribe to the commercial aspects of the religion!
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Post by: Gravy11 on July 19, 2017, 02:10:52 PM
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"The Light at Home has been mentioned by The Edge as one of the songs he’s loving on the new album" - now I am anxious to hear this song!

I'm glad "You're the best thing about me" isn't the single.  and I'm glad it will be a more U2 sounding song.  Phew!

Single release day in September? Album release December 1st on World Aids Day?  I think it's true this time.

Pinch of salt. Edge liked unknown caller!


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Unknown Caller is such a bipolar song. Either you love it or hate it. It was one of my favorites from NLOTH. I really feel it was one of Edge's best solos on it. Just this guy's opinion. 😀
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"The Light at Home has been mentioned by The Edge as one of the songs he’s loving on the new album" - now I am anxious to hear this song!

I'm glad "You're the best thing about me" isn't the single.  and I'm glad it will be a more U2 sounding song.  Phew!

Single release day in September? Album release December 1st on World Aids Day?  I think it's true this time.

Pinch of salt. Edge liked unknown caller!


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Unknown Caller is such a bipolar song. Either you love it or hate it. It was one of my favorites from NLOTH. I really feel it was one of Edge's best solos on it. Just this guy's opinion.

Oh musically it's great, lyrically however...


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Post by: trevgreg on July 19, 2017, 02:53:05 PM
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Oh musically it's great, lyrically however...

Yeah, the music deal is pretty good. The chorus lyrics.... yeah.
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"The Light at Home has been mentioned by The Edge as one of the songs he’s loving on the new album" - now I am anxious to hear this song!

I'm glad "You're the best thing about me" isn't the single.  and I'm glad it will be a more U2 sounding song.  Phew!

Single release day in September? Album release December 1st on World Aids Day?  I think it's true this time.

Pinch of salt. Edge liked unknown caller!


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Unknown Caller is such a bipolar song. Either you love it or hate it. It was one of my favorites from NLOTH. I really feel it was one of Edge's best solos on it. Just this guy's opinion.

Oh musically it's great, lyrically however...


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It's a good example of what appears from the outside to be Bono putting his first draft-dashed off nonsense onto the finished track.  You know when you hear earlier versions of some of their songs and it's a step up from his Bongolese but nowhere near a finished lyric? Well now that seems to commonly become the finished lyric.

"You're on a piece of ground above a volcano" - what image is that supposed to even conjure? I see Super Mario or something.
"You were alone but now you're not alone"- not really the poetry he's capable of producing
"Force quit and move to trash"- what the hell ?
"Come on people yeah yeah love" (slight paraphrasing of Stand Up Comedy after the first verse) is absolute lowest denominator rock lyric writing

Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Saint1322 on July 20, 2017, 09:10:06 AM
^
The most nonsensical song Bono has ever written, to me, is Staring At The Sun:

There's an insect in your ear (OK, gross; this is one of my worst nightmares)
If you scratch it won't disappear (I wouldn't think so, no)
It's gonna itch and burn and sting (That's what they do, King B)
You wanna see what the scratching brings (WHAT? Probably more itching. Or relief. Is this really worth talking about?)

And then that bit about armor-plated suits and ties? Referee won't blow the whistle? This song is all over the place.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: trevgreg on July 20, 2017, 09:23:50 AM
Well, like Yoko Ono once said she told John Lennon one time, he wasn't one to rhyme "June with spoon" all the time. And that might've been a good thing. I Am the Walrus was sort of written exactly for that reason anyway.

Sometimes stuff a bit nonsensical or stream of consciousness turns out better than it probably would have been anyway. The only part of the SATS verse that sticks out a bit, imo, is that last line. Otherwise, it's just something that's a bit different from "I took a walk one day" lyrics, which is cool.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on July 20, 2017, 09:33:09 AM
The most annoying thing about UC is that the first lot of lyrics were great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbkW8ILaaH0 - 3:22 onwards

Restart and forgive yourself
Come back to me

Shout for you joy
On every street

I'm convinced these sessions were amongst the best of U2's career but as the album came into focus (or in this case it didn't) they lost their balls and experimentalism and all that hard work and freshness went by the wayside.

I would love to hear the original demos.

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Post by: gujuju on July 20, 2017, 10:14:17 AM
Agree.  I had such high hopes for UC.   Even the beach clip version was great bc the lyrics could not be made out

The clip of Magnificent from Fez (can find on YouTube) with the extended guitar intro is amazing.   Wish we could hear this version.
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Post by: trevgreg on July 20, 2017, 10:29:24 AM
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The clip of Magnificent from Fez (can find on YouTube) with the extended guitar intro is amazing.   Wish we could hear this version.

Assuming there is a "completed" version, of course.
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Post by: an tha on July 20, 2017, 12:34:58 PM
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The most nonsensical song Bono has ever written, to me, is Staring At The Sun:

There's an insect in your ear (OK, gross; this is one of my worst nightmares)
If you scratch it won't disappear (I wouldn't think so, no)
It's gonna itch and burn and sting (That's what they do, King B)
You wanna see what the scratching brings (WHAT? Probably more itching. Or relief. Is this really worth talking about?)

And then that bit about armor-plated suits and ties? Referee won't blow the whistle? This song is all over the place.

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Post by: THRILLHO on July 20, 2017, 12:47:19 PM
an tha you poor b******


yea i'd love to hear the NLOTH demos. kindergarten NLOTH so to speak. assemble a proper fan made playlist like i can do with beach boys smile or weezers songs from the black hole. ignore the proper release and just listen to the early superior demos.
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Post by: an tha on July 20, 2017, 01:09:35 PM
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an tha you poor b******


yea i'd love to hear the NLOTH demos. kindergarten NLOTH so to speak. assemble a proper fan made playlist like i can do with beach boys smile or weezers songs from the black hole. ignore the proper release and just listen to the early superior demos.

 :)
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Post by: monopoly on July 20, 2017, 01:43:30 PM
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The most annoying thing about UC is that the first lot of lyrics were great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbkW8ILaaH0 - 3:22 onwards

Restart and forgive yourself
Come back to me

Shout for you joy
On every street

I'm convinced these sessions were amongst the best of U2's career but as the album came into focus (or in this case it didn't) they lost their balls and experimentalism and all that hard work and freshness went by the wayside.

I would love to hear the original demos.

That's how it has been for every album they've done in the last 10 years. All the alternate versions of SOI sound so much more experienental and raw. It's obvious the original mixes with Danger Mouse sounded different. Then u2 brought 3 more producers to change the songs.

If u2 would focus on making an album in 1 1/2 years, then we'd have so many masterpieces. But they keep overworking to death. That's why I think SOE won't be anything spectacular, just another ATYCLB, Dismantle or SOI. It's been overworked.
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Post by: World71R on July 20, 2017, 03:41:07 PM
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The most nonsensical song Bono has ever written, to me, is Staring At The Sun:

There's an insect in your ear (OK, gross; this is one of my worst nightmares)
If you scratch it won't disappear (I wouldn't think so, no)
It's gonna itch and burn and sting (That's what they do, King B)
You wanna see what the scratching brings (WHAT? Probably more itching. Or relief. Is this really worth talking about?)

And then that bit about armor-plated suits and ties? Referee won't blow the whistle? This song is all over the place.

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Totally agreed.

Elevation makes absolutely no sense and ruins the solid rock tune that it is (especially with those odd falsetto "Ohh oh"s in the chorus). It sounds like a bunch of trashed lines from other songs that are poorly mish-mashed together and added to some other superficial lines to produce the song. The only good line is the "At the corner of your lips, as the orbit of your hips" line imo. Otherwise, the lyrics somewhat reek of a sellout effort.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: jjcruiser on July 21, 2017, 11:26:31 AM
I'm shocked at how popular UC seems to be on here.  I guess it's a love it or hate it song and I'm on the other side.  Easily in my top three worst songs right with Wild Honey and Babyface.

I realize from an "art" perspective that Elevation and Vertigo are not exactly boundary pushing.  But I have to be honest, I enjoy them more in concert and listen to them more and with more joy than a lot of other more serious "better" songs of U2.  I think that's why they keep playing them.

But the mole-picture was brilliant.
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Post by: trevgreg on July 21, 2017, 11:39:06 AM
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I realize from an "art" perspective that Elevation and Vertigo are not exactly boundary pushing.  But I have to be honest, I enjoy them more in concert and listen to them more and with more joy than a lot of other more serious "better" songs of U2.  I think that's why they keep playing them.

Odd thing is that Vertigo got a bit of a break on this tour and Elevation on the last... but yeah, the reactions are always pretty high for those two. Too bad we're supposed to go to rock shows, hear just ambient tracks and be miserable though.  ::)
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Smells like Vanilla
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A buddy of mine once told me he felt that was one of Bono's dumbest lines... and as a father of 3 who's witnessed childbirth WAY too many times, I have to utterly disagree with him. It is a brilliant and beautiful lyric. 
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A buddy of mine once told me he felt that was one of Bono's dumbest lines... and as a father of 3 who's witnessed childbirth WAY too many times, I have to utterly disagree with him. It is a brilliant and beautiful lyric.
Love the song, have three wonderful kids, saw them all come out, but that particular line makes me feel a bit like a mole.
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You need to copy the pics URL and paste it between the "IMG" tags which appear when yoi click on the mona lisa pic under the bold and italic text icons.

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You paste the URL and use the [img] HTML formatting around it. Or just select it and click on the little Mona Lisa icon.
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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on July 21, 2017, 05:04:02 PM
Does anyone have a link to the Best thing beachhouse clip?
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Post by: redapple129 on July 21, 2017, 09:55:37 PM
They've put enough good material from this album out into the world that I feel like I should be expecting something good - Little Things, the song at the end of the Fender video, American Soul (from what Kendrick sampled from it) all sound promising. But just as Fez and Soon weren't enough for them and chasing hits gave us Crazy and Boots, going with TBT as the first single says their judgment still isn't in the right place.

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A buddy of mine once told me he felt that was one of Bono's dumbest lines... and as a father of 3 who's witnessed childbirth WAY too many times, I have to utterly disagree with him. It is a brilliant and beautiful lyric.

In my Biological Psych lecture on smell, the professor used the line, unattributed, as an example of the powerful emotional associations we can have with scents. She then asked the class who said it.

Apparently, I'm the first person to know in the decade or so she's taught the class.
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Post by: lorijane on July 21, 2017, 10:25:21 PM
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They've put enough good material from this album out into the world that I feel like I should be expecting something good - Little Things, the song at the end of the Fender video, American Soul (from what Kendrick sampled from it) all sound promising. But just as Fez and Soon weren't enough for them and chasing hits gave us Crazy and Boots, going with TBT as the first single says their judgment still isn't in the right place.

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A buddy of mine once told me he felt that was one of Bono's dumbest lines... and as a father of 3 who's witnessed childbirth WAY too many times, I have to utterly disagree with him. It is a brilliant and beautiful lyric.

In my Biological Psych lecture on smell, the professor used the line, unattributed, as an example of the powerful emotional associations we can have with scents. She then asked the class who said it.

Apparently, I'm the first person to know in the decade or so she's taught the class.

Hope you got an A+
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: codeguy on July 22, 2017, 12:22:46 PM
So once the Europe JT tour ends and they head to Eze for holidays we should hear more SOE bits blasted out of bonos speakers - especially since they're now calling it done
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on July 22, 2017, 02:18:07 PM
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So once the Europe JT tour ends and they head to Eze for holidays we should hear more SOE bits blasted out of bonos speakers - especially since they're now calling it done

They keep getting better in quality every year
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: mariamontreal on July 23, 2017, 06:08:59 AM
Hoping the new album and tour will be their icing on the cake I am rooting for this to happen.Blow us away.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: The Exile on July 23, 2017, 12:22:59 PM
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If I knew how to post a picture on here I would post a picture of a newborn baby's head.

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Smells like Vanilla

A buddy of mine once told me he felt that was one of Bono's dumbest lines... and as a father of 3 who's witnessed childbirth WAY too many times, I have to utterly disagree with him. It is a brilliant and beautiful lyric.

Yeah, placenta totally smells amazing. We saved ours and dried it out and now use it as potpourri around the house.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on July 23, 2017, 12:27:43 PM
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Smells like Vanilla

A buddy of mine once told me he felt that was one of Bono's dumbest lines... and as a father of 3 who's witnessed childbirth WAY too many times, I have to utterly disagree with him. It is a brilliant and beautiful lyric.

Yeah, placenta totally smells amazing. We saved ours and dried it out and now use it as potpourri around the house.
Makes for a great jerky too.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on July 23, 2017, 12:31:22 PM
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Smells like Vanilla

A buddy of mine once told me he felt that was one of Bono's dumbest lines... and as a father of 3 who's witnessed childbirth WAY too many times, I have to utterly disagree with him. It is a brilliant and beautiful lyric.

Yeah, placenta totally smells amazing. We saved ours and dried it out and now use it as potpourri around the house.
Makes for a great jerky too.
I think I just threw up in my mouth
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: The Exile on July 23, 2017, 12:47:44 PM
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Smells like Vanilla

A buddy of mine once told me he felt that was one of Bono's dumbest lines... and as a father of 3 who's witnessed childbirth WAY too many times, I have to utterly disagree with him. It is a brilliant and beautiful lyric.

Yeah, placenta totally smells amazing. We saved ours and dried it out and now use it as potpourri around the house.
Makes for a great jerky too.

Tastes like chicken placenta.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: KenpoMatt on July 23, 2017, 01:21:40 PM
I hate it when I walk in late to a placenta party...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on July 23, 2017, 01:31:19 PM
I left this thread for two days and this is what I see haha
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: ZEROpartII on July 23, 2017, 02:07:01 PM
My neighborhood taco truck just added the healthier substitute of ground placenta in lieu of beef, chicken, or chorizo. 
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: JFW on July 23, 2017, 03:05:37 PM
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I left this thread for two days and this is what I see haha
I think we need more news and rumours  :)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on July 23, 2017, 03:22:10 PM
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I left this thread for two days and this is what I see haha
I think we need more news and rumours  :)
I just heard that the Edge is on fire. AND, Edge said that SOE was "almost" done...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: JFW on July 23, 2017, 03:27:43 PM
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I left this thread for two days and this is what I see haha
I think we need more news and rumours  :)
I just heard that the Edge is on fire. AND, Edge said that SOE was "almost" done...
Pretty excited, isn't it? Now I have to find a way to save money for their next tour  ???.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: ZEROpartII on July 23, 2017, 03:57:20 PM
Punk rock on Neptune.  Btw: Alien baby heads smell even better than humans


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: U2 Fan of the 90s on August 02, 2017, 03:12:19 PM
With all the new filming going on of videos and what not there's gotta be some news or leaks out there?  Who's got em?!?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on August 02, 2017, 04:53:23 PM
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With all the new filming going on of videos and what not there's gotta be some news or leaks out there?  Who's got em?!?

i thought about this today too. it happened friday and here we are on wed and nothing's happened.

maybe for once in the history of media no one is gonna betray the non-disclosure agreement
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on August 02, 2017, 05:17:25 PM
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With all the new filming going on of videos and what not there's gotta be some news or leaks out there?  Who's got em?!?

i thought about this today too. it happened friday and here we are on wed and nothing's happened.

maybe for once in the history of media no one is gonna betray the non-disclosure agreement
well, curses on them!  :D
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Izzy on August 05, 2017, 07:52:36 AM
I read a blurb on u2songs about listening parties, are they starting to allow glimpses at the new album or is this a focus group approach?

http://www.u2songs.com/news/songs_of_experience_listening_sessions (http://www.u2songs.com/news/songs_of_experience_listening_sessions)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: OnlyU2 on August 05, 2017, 08:04:52 AM
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I read a blurb on u2songs about listening parties, are they starting to allow glimpses at the new album or is this a focus group approach?

http://www.u2songs.com/news/songs_of_experience_listening_sessions (http://www.u2songs.com/news/songs_of_experience_listening_sessions)

See page 1, this is the link that started this thread
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: h0achy on August 06, 2017, 02:40:23 PM
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"The Light at Home has been mentioned by The Edge as one of the songs he’s loving on the new album" - now I am anxious to hear this song!

I'm glad "You're the best thing about me" isn't the single.  and I'm glad it will be a more U2 sounding song.  Phew!

Single release day in September? Album release December 1st on World Aids Day?  I think it's true this time.

Pinch of salt. Edge liked unknown caller!


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Not to open a can of worms, but Unknown Caller is a fantastic track IMO

I agree. The technological-themed lyrics are a little much at times, but other than that, it's a really good song and another underrated track from NLOTH.
I totally agree, a great song but with a couple of jarring lyrics, as is often the case lately. I reckon they are trying to create a buzz with these sessions, apparently the music industry is also desperately awaiting the new album so I think they are looking for a positive  buzz from influential voices when the album comes out to hook the casuals while they know we will buy it anyway.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: georgemccauley on August 08, 2017, 07:30:10 AM
Songs of Experience is NOT coming out this year. Heard this today face to face with a reliable source who we all know.

I was told no new album in 2017, band were not happy with it so that's why we have JT30 this year. It makes realistic sense to be honest.

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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on August 08, 2017, 07:51:57 AM
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Songs of Experience is NOT coming out this year. Heard this today face to face with a reliable source who we all know.

I was told no new album in 2017, band were not happy with it so that's why we have JT30 this year. It makes realistic sense to be honest.

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GO AHEAD...MAKE MY DAY... >:(
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 08, 2017, 09:14:33 AM
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Songs of Experience is NOT coming out this year. Heard this today face to face with a reliable source who we all know.

I was told no new album in 2017, band were not happy with it so that's why we have JT30 this year. It makes realistic sense to be honest.

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GO AHEAD...MAKE MY DAY... >:(

There is never an album until it happens. How the other sources can pinpoint an exact December 1st date is beyond my understanding.

Then again, they are definitely doing work for it!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: ShankAsu on August 08, 2017, 09:39:45 AM
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Songs of Experience is NOT coming out this year. Heard this today face to face with a reliable source who we all know.

I was told no new album in 2017, band were not happy with it so that's why we have JT30 this year. It makes realistic sense to be honest.

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GO AHEAD...MAKE MY DAY... >:(

There is never an album until it happens. How the other sources can pinpoint an exact December 1st date is beyond my understanding.

Then again, they are definitely doing work for it!
I would love to see the band put out a record where they have one day to spend on each song, kind of like what the Traveling Wilburys did on their albums.  Get the band to break their cycle of re-tinkering albums to death.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Aprilshack on August 08, 2017, 10:38:02 AM
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Songs of Experience is NOT coming out this year. Heard this today face to face with a reliable source who we all know.

I was told no new album in 2017, band were not happy with it so that's why we have JT30 this year. It makes realistic sense to be honest.

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Who is the source? Wonder why they have bothered to film music videos & had listening parties  for some of the songs?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: georgemccauley on August 08, 2017, 10:38:41 AM
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Songs of Experience is NOT coming out this year. Heard this today face to face with a reliable source who we all know.

I was told no new album in 2017, band were not happy with it so that's why we have JT30 this year. It makes realistic sense to be honest.

Don't really want to say too much in case he gets into trouble but if you want to know more PM me


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Who is the source? Wonder why they have bothered to film music videos & had listening parties  for some of the songs?

Read a few posts up mate


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: tigerfan41 on August 08, 2017, 11:40:10 AM
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Songs of Experience is NOT coming out this year. Heard this today face to face with a reliable source who we all know.

I was told no new album in 2017, band were not happy with it so that's why we have JT30 this year. It makes realistic sense to be honest.

Don't really want to say too much in case he gets into trouble but if you want to know more PM me


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GO AHEAD...MAKE MY DAY... >:(

Yeah, sorry, I'm not buying this, whoever the "source" is. The band would make total **** of themselves if they don't release the new album this year. They promised it in the X-mas video watched by millions on Facebook, they mentioned it in concert, they've mentioned it in interviews etc. They've been playing a new song for most of the tour (off the new album), they've been having listening parties for the new album before concerts. Literally ALL signs point to the new album coming out within the next several months (i.e. before the end of 2017).

The only reason why TJT tour happened was because U2 knew they had touring requirements to fulfill this year and they weren't ready to put the new album out + tour it. They thought, hey, why not do a couple month tour to celebrate an incredibly successful album? They probably didn't count on Live Nation extending the tour to the fall, but even then, it's only another month.

This allowed them to tinker with the new album, fulfill their duties with a relatively short, easy tour (and rake in some easy $$$), all while putting buzz around their band so that when they release the new album, they're already fresh in everyone's minds. It's literally a win-win-win all around. They can drop the album on December 1st (World AIDS Day), take advantage of all that free press, then gear up to tour it in early 2018. Finish up the I&E tour in 2018 with dates in the markets they ignored before + replay the ones they know are successful (NY, LA, Chicago etc etc), enjoy a couple break years after that, work on another new album, maybe come back in 2021 and do it again with Zoo TV Redux?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Airuarak on August 08, 2017, 11:42:46 AM
the dude who is trolling about no album this year... just a couple of weeks ago they've said the album is out this year... well after they released JT30, so your timeline makes absolutely no sense... and your rationale therefore falls apart. enjoy the album when it comes out in a couple of months.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 08, 2017, 12:31:25 PM
If anything, someone is trying to cover it up...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: MadRob360 on August 08, 2017, 12:31:42 PM
A source close to the band (who we ALLLLLLLL know!) told me That bonos dog ate the single usb stick that the album was on and now theres no new album ever

in all seriousness though im looking forward to a beautiful new album in 2017 :D
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on August 08, 2017, 01:05:33 PM
The thought of them not releasing it this year is laughable. U2 are fast becoming a shadow of the band they think they are.


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on August 08, 2017, 01:23:55 PM
U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Johnny Feathers on August 08, 2017, 01:30:47 PM
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U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?

Didn't you hear?  We were PROMISED one!  So it seems we should all be terribly, awfully, super upset if we don't get it.  And the band will be super-ashamed of themselves and will be a laughing stock because they promised us one and didn't give it to us.  You know.  That's how things work.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on August 08, 2017, 01:46:33 PM
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U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?

Didn't you hear?  We were PROMISED one!  So it seems we should all be terribly, awfully, super upset if we don't get it.  And the band will be super-ashamed of themselves and will be a laughing stock because they promised us one and didn't give it to us.  You know.  That's how things work.

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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Johnny Feathers on August 08, 2017, 02:07:10 PM
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U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?

Didn't you hear?  We were PROMISED one!  So it seems we should all be terribly, awfully, super upset if we don't get it.  And the band will be super-ashamed of themselves and will be a laughing stock because they promised us one and didn't give it to us.  You know.  That's how things work.

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Preeeeeeeeetty much.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: wik73 on August 08, 2017, 02:07:35 PM
Who cares! Joshua Tree was just released.


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on August 08, 2017, 02:08:13 PM
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Who cares! Joshua Tree was just released.


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Title: SOE update
Post by: wik73 on August 08, 2017, 02:12:32 PM
It's always so much more exciting wondering what amazing music they'll come up with next vs. the realization of what they've actually come up with. Just enjoy this moment of wonder and excitement of what could be. As U2 fans, may the myth of the next Achtung Baby never subside and may we all live in this state forever.


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: georgemccauley on August 08, 2017, 02:25:00 PM
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U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?

Didn't you hear?  We were PROMISED one!  So it seems we should all be terribly, awfully, super upset if we don't get it.  And the band will be super-ashamed of themselves and will be a laughing stock because they promised us one and didn't give it to us.  You know.  That's how things work.

To be fair it wouldn't surprise me if they actually didn't care about what everyone else thinks. They have broken promises regarding album release dates as far back as NLOH as far as I can remember, probably further for the more experienced supporters.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if they have indeed pushed it back to 2018 as Chris Evans told me this morning. We've had the Joshua Tree Tour 2017 and a special re issue release of The Joshua Tree Super Deluxe....

It makes sense now to release the NEW record next year in 2018..... as painful as that sounds
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: tigerfan41 on August 08, 2017, 03:01:14 PM
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U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?

Didn't you hear?  We were PROMISED one!  So it seems we should all be terribly, awfully, super upset if we don't get it.  And the band will be super-ashamed of themselves and will be a laughing stock because they promised us one and didn't give it to us.  You know.  That's how things work.

To be fair it wouldn't surprise me if they actually didn't care about what everyone else thinks. They have broken promises regarding album release dates as far back as NLOH as far as I can remember, probably further for the more experienced supporters.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if they have indeed pushed it back to 2018 as Chris Evans told me this morning. We've had the Joshua Tree Tour 2017 and a special re issue release of The Joshua Tree Super Deluxe....

It makes sense now to release the NEW record next year in 2018..... as painful as that sounds

The same Chris Evans who said last December that the album was "finished" and would be released sometime next (2017) year? That Chris Evans? https://forum.atu2.com/index.php/topic,30185.0.html?

He's hardly a reliable source at this point. Perhaps in the past...but he's just contradicted himself whether they release it this year (as he said last December) or they don't (when he said they would this year last December).

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U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?

Didn't you hear?  We were PROMISED one!  So it seems we should all be terribly, awfully, super upset if we don't get it.  And the band will be super-ashamed of themselves and will be a laughing stock because they promised us one and didn't give it to us.  You know.  That's how things work.

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I don't think anyone would have expected a new album so quickly had they (a) not said SoE was accompanying SoI and would therefore be out close to that album's release and (b) had a certain frontman not promised the new album in 2017.

Personally? I don't really care at this point when the album comes out--beyond calling them out when they promise and fail to deliver. The last several albums have been decent or slightly above average (for U2). Good compared to a lot of what's out there, but hardly Achtung Baby. Which is fine. When you're a band like U2, with a deep discography, I don't think anyone expects you to be releasing outstanding music in your 50s. At this point, a new U2 album is a bonus, not something I particularly look forward to. I'm more concerned with their live show than anything else these days.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Vox on August 08, 2017, 03:53:07 PM
Being U2 fans, we’re no strangers to album release delays. 

However, shame on me being nearly convinced that they were going to release a surprise album on September 25, 2016, right around the time they did the iheartradio dealie [Vox (new album) Certainty Factor (VCF):  90%].  I still find it strange that they did the iheartradio thing and the other corporate thing a few weeks apart last year. 

And, maybe that was the original plan, at one point.  I still believe the tea leaves from the summer of last year were portending a fall 2016 release.  I’m convinced that what became the Joshua Tree Tour 2017 was originally supposed to be the Innocence-Experience 2017 tour.  Some of the venues were booked, but Songs of Experience wasn’t up to their standard. 

Based on their track record, I didn’t get my hopes up too much with the Christmas announcement (VCF:  50%).  I officially gave up hope when The Joshua Tree Tour 2017 kept sprawling on (VCF: 10%).  But then I got a glimmer of hope when I heard the Edge saying “probably this year,” even though he sounded like a man uncertain (VCF: 30%).  Then the glimmer of hope became a ray when word got out that they were recording a couple music videos a few weeks ago (VCF: 60%). 

But, they’re taking their customary August holiday in France, and then it’s back to the road for two months.  That will presumably be followed by another month off to recover from the road, and by that time it’s already December and Christmas holiday.  So unless the album is finished and they’re sitting on it, I just don’t see it coming out.

Anyway…  this is what being a U2 fan is like in the modern times.  I’m one of the fans who would prefer new music to touring.  But if U2 doesn’t like the quality of the album, then I’m glad they’re holding off.  That being said, when you look into a mirror too long, the image will get dusty and begin to fade.  Without a doubt, the creativity has either diminished a bit, or they’ve become too self-conscious of their art.  Still, for me, U2 can do whatever they want – they’ve given so much and owe nothing.

VCF today:  38.91615%.  Vox B**lsh*t Factor (VBSF) today:  100%.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on August 08, 2017, 03:59:43 PM
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Being U2 fans, we’re no strangers to album release delays. 

However, shame on me being nearly convinced that they were going to release a surprise album on September 25, 2016, right around the time they did the iheartradio dealie [Vox (new album) Certainty Factor (VCF):  90%].  I still find it strange that they did the iheartradio thing and the other corporate thing a few weeks apart last year. 

And, maybe that was the original plan, at one point.  I still believe the tea leaves from the summer of last year were portending a fall 2016 release.  I’m convinced that what became the Joshua Tree Tour 2017 was originally supposed to be the Innocence-Experience 2017 tour.  Some of the venues were booked, but Songs of Experience wasn’t up to their standard. 

Based on their track record, I didn’t get my hopes up too much with the Christmas announcement (VCF:  50%).  I officially gave up hope when The Joshua Tree Tour 2017 kept sprawling on (VCF: 10%).  But then I got a glimmer of hope when I heard the Edge saying “probably this year,” even though he sounded like a man uncertain (VCF: 30%).  Then the glimmer of hope became a ray when word got out that they were recording a couple music videos a few weeks ago (VCF: 60%). 

But, they’re taking their customary August holiday in France, and then it’s back to the road for two months.  That will presumably be followed by another month off to recover from the road, and by that time it’s already December and Christmas holiday.  So unless the album is finished and they’re sitting on it, I just don’t see it coming out.

Anyway…  this is what being a U2 fan is like in the modern times.  I’m one of the fans who would prefer new music to touring.  But if U2 doesn’t like the quality of the album, then I’m glad they’re holding off.  That being said, when you look into a mirror too long, the image will get dusty and begin to fade.  Without a doubt, the creativity has either diminished a bit, or they’ve become too self-conscious of their art.  Still, for me, U2 can do whatever they want – they’ve given so much and owe nothing.

VCF today:  38.91615%.  Vox B**lsh*t Factor (VBSF) today:  100%.

"They've given so much and owe nothing"...VERY VERY well said...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 08, 2017, 07:33:44 PM
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It's always so much more exciting wondering what amazing music they'll come up with next vs. the realization of what they've actually come up with. Just enjoy this moment of wonder and excitement of what could be. As U2 fans, may the myth of the next Achtung Baby never subside and may we all live in this state forever.


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: NOLA Fly on August 08, 2017, 08:25:36 PM
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The most nonsensical song Bono has ever written, to me, is Staring At The Sun:

There's an insect in your ear (OK, gross; this is one of my worst nightmares)
If you scratch it won't disappear (I wouldn't think so, no)
It's gonna itch and burn and sting (That's what they do, King B)
You wanna see what the scratching brings (WHAT? Probably more itching. Or relief. Is this really worth talking about?)

And then that bit about armor-plated suits and ties? Referee won't blow the whistle? This song is all over the place.

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Totally agreed.

Elevation makes absolutely no sense and ruins the solid rock tune that it is (especially with those odd falsetto "Ohh oh"s in the chorus). It sounds like a bunch of trashed lines from other songs that are poorly mish-mashed together and added to some other superficial lines to produce the song. The only good line is the "At the corner of your lips, as the orbit of your hips" line imo. Otherwise, the lyrics somewhat reek of a sellout effort.

I don’t see it that way at all. I think it covers virtually the same ground as “Mysterious Ways,” only this time in the first person. It seems to me a picture of a man “living underground,” “like a mole,” struggling with the depths of his own soul or possibly “running away from what [he doesn’t] understand” and finding something (a woman/the Spirit) drawing him out of his den of retreat. Only instead of Bono urging Johnny to let the light in, it’s Bono himself this time around beseeching someone to “talk about the things [he] can’t explain,” to “educate my mind,” to “explain all these controls.”

I take the lines “A star lit up like a cigar, strung out like a guitar” to be self-referential. Bono, a rock star, is still bright but is burning out and strung out. It’s not a surprising description if you consider the context the album was recorded in and its content: Coming on the heals of the shortcomings (at least in the band’s mind) of Pop/PopMart, the increasing strain of his activism in Jubilee 2000, battling throat problems quite possibly brought on by his own choices: “Everyone was saying it was my lifestyle, on the phone all the time, never going to bed, smoking, drinking too much, so I was making changes but I was just not able to really get there.”, and dealing with/writing songs about the suicide of a close friend (SIAMYCGOO), acts of terrorism in his homeland (POE), and a sense of hopelessness about the brokenness of the world (WILATW).

And where in “Mysterious Ways” we find Bono assuring Johnny that “one day you’ll look back and you’ll see where you were held now by this love,” in “Elevation” it is Bono calling out on his own behalf: “Love, lift me out of these blues, won’t you tell me something true.”  In this way, I think “Elevation” is also related to “When I Look At The World,” where Bono is lamenting not being able to see the world/have faith like his wife does and says,  “Tell me, tell me, what do you see? Tell me, tell me, what’s wrong with me.” In both cases, he wants to rise above his limitations/limited viewpoint and is looking for a hand to pull him out of the mire.

For the longest time, I didn't know that "I and I" is an actual phrase or catch the possible wordplay of "I and I in the sky" with "I and Eye in the sky," a possible reference to God.

Now, is there a throwaway quality/vibe here? Sure. So? The same is true of many great rock songs and I would argue that that’s part of its charm, not unlike some of the material on Pop. I definitely get a sense of "looking for the baby Jesus under the trash" in this song. Even if the trash in question is internal.

Is the mole metaphor/imagery something you wouldn't normally expect to find in a rock song? Yes. But the image is apt in the context of the song and I think it fits with the playful vibe. In Into The Heart, Niall Stokes observes, “The mole livin’ in a hole diggin’ up his soul in the fourth verse is reminiscent of the central character in 'The Fly',” and that “the song captures well the murky terrain inhabited by a writer struggling with the attempt to make art of his or her experience.”

"Elevation" has become something of a whipping boy on this forum. It is a big, fun rock song, yes, but it certainly isn't hollow. I don't see selling out anywhere here. To me, it makes sense and seems a continuation of themes already present in U2's work.

And for the record, I love the woo-hoos. I get pumped every time.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: aviastar on August 08, 2017, 09:51:36 PM
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U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?

Didn't you hear?  We were PROMISED one!  So it seems we should all be terribly, awfully, super upset if we don't get it.  And the band will be super-ashamed of themselves and will be a laughing stock because they promised us one and didn't give it to us.  You know.  That's how things work.

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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: xy on August 09, 2017, 12:37:48 AM
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U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?

Average, sure, but we certainly heard enough about SOE to reasonably expect it to land soon-ish (late 2017/Spring 2018).
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: georgemccauley on August 09, 2017, 12:57:57 AM
Sometime in the next 27 years guys


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on August 09, 2017, 01:06:00 AM
i laugh at the people that say its sept. 8th single release dec 1 album. i dont buy it. no need to buy into it.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on August 09, 2017, 01:14:04 AM
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U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?

Average, sure, but we certainly heard enough about SOE to reasonably expect it to land soon-ish (late 2017/Spring 2018).

And it may well do......i just don't see the 'problem' if it does not.

Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on August 09, 2017, 01:20:26 AM
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U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?

Average, sure, but we certainly heard enough about SOE to reasonably expect it to land soon-ish (late 2017/Spring 2018).

And it may well do......i just don't see the 'problem' if it does not.

yea, there's no problem. disappointment for a lot but everything is fine.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on August 09, 2017, 02:18:35 AM
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U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?

Average, sure, but we certainly heard enough about SOE to reasonably expect it to land soon-ish (late 2017/Spring 2018).

And it may well do......i just don't see the 'problem' if it does not.

yea, there's no problem. disappointment for a lot but everything is fine.

I get the impression that there are a few people who really do see it is a "problem"....although it is of course easy to misinterpret disappointment for a "problem" so it may just be my poor perception.

The thing is U2 have never really been prolific the 80's aside maybe and whilst I can see why people would want new music to land and I understand there has been quite a lot of talk about it it is a fact that we haven't quite reached 3 years since the last new u2 album....

The fact that there is new music on the way - and that the fan base actually know this because there has been talk, there has been songs played etc and it is all likely to land quite a way inside the bands normal release rate should make people feel reasonably happy IMO rather than be disappointed or have a "problem" that it isn't here already.

Of course the acid test is how good will it be and personally I am more "concerned" about that than when it may land - even though I thought SOI was OK (although it faded quite a bit quite quickly) and the 2nd half certainly gave encouragement I have a bad feeling about this next record (I can picture the eye rolls and the accusations of "negativity" from people but I am just being honest) just my gut feel based on what we know and have heard to date and where u2 are...

I'll be happy to be proved wrong - I do feel though that I'd take the release of 1 good u2 album in 5 years over 2 mediocre u2 albums in 5 years and be very pleasantly surprised by 1 great u2 album even if it took a decade to see it land!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Jswallow on August 09, 2017, 05:26:09 AM
Maybe Bono want to rewrite the lyrics again now that America & North Korea are heading for a showdown

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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: PookaMacP on August 09, 2017, 07:54:14 AM
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I’m one of the fans who would prefer new music to touring.  But if U2 doesn’t like the quality of the album, then I’m glad they’re holding off.  That being said, when you look into a mirror too long, the image will get dusty and begin to fade.  Without a doubt, the creativity has either diminished a bit, or they’ve become too self-conscious of their art.  Still, for me, U2 can do whatever they want – they’ve given so much and owe nothing.

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I'd take the release of 1 good u2 album in 5 years over 2 mediocre u2 albums in 5 years and be very pleasantly surprised by 1 great u2 album even if it took a decade to see it land!

I agree with you both. To paraphrase Bone himself, I already have enough U2 music. If they release something new, I'd prefer it to be the best material possible. I'd be happy enough if they never released another album or toured again rather than hear another middling record like SOI, ATYCLB or HTDAAB.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: zoo adam on August 09, 2017, 08:30:33 AM
No album is worth waiting 5 years for.

If SOE is released this year & is as good as SOI, I'll be happy as I liked SOI.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Johnny Feathers on August 09, 2017, 08:52:55 AM
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No album is worth waiting 5 years for.


I think the problem is the idea that anyone is "waiting" for an album.  Nobody is doing that.

Roger Waters just released his first studio album in 25 years.  It was a delight, and I wasn't waiting for it.  I wasn't crossing my arms in a huff, saying, "you shouldn't have made us wait so long, it's not worth it!"  That's silly.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on August 09, 2017, 09:05:50 AM
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No album is worth waiting 5 years for.

If SOE is released this year & is as good as SOI, I'll be happy as I liked SOI.

Where does SOI rank on your all time list?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: acrobat62 on August 09, 2017, 09:09:43 AM
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No album is worth waiting 5 years for.


I think the problem is the idea that anyone is "waiting" for an album.  Nobody is doing that.

Roger Waters just released his first studio album in 25 years.  It was a delight, and I wasn't waiting for it.  I wasn't crossing my arms in a huff, saying, "you shouldn't have made us wait so long, it's not worth it!"  That's silly.

Here's a few more either due to "breakups",  hiatus or simple inactivity as a group.  There are probably many more, but this is what a quick search turns up.
Steely Dan 20 years
Devo 20 years
The Zombies 22 years
My Bloody Valentine 22 years
The Pixies 23 years
The Who 22 years
The Eagles 28 years
The Stooges 34 years
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Johnny Feathers on August 09, 2017, 09:16:53 AM
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No album is worth waiting 5 years for.


I think the problem is the idea that anyone is "waiting" for an album.  Nobody is doing that.

Roger Waters just released his first studio album in 25 years.  It was a delight, and I wasn't waiting for it.  I wasn't crossing my arms in a huff, saying, "you shouldn't have made us wait so long, it's not worth it!"  That's silly.

Here's a few more either due to "breakups",  hiatus or simple inactivity as a group.  There are probably many more, but this is what a quick search turns up.
Steely Dan 20 years
Devo 20 years
The Zombies 22 years
My Bloody Valentine 22 years
The Pixies 23 years
The Who 22 years
The Eagles 28 years
The Stooges 34 years

Yep.  Those albums may be great, and they may suck.  But there's literally no reason why the length of time from the previous album has anything to do with how good they are.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: acrobat62 on August 09, 2017, 09:19:08 AM
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No album is worth waiting 5 years for.


I think the problem is the idea that anyone is "waiting" for an album.  Nobody is doing that.

Roger Waters just released his first studio album in 25 years.  It was a delight, and I wasn't waiting for it.  I wasn't crossing my arms in a huff, saying, "you shouldn't have made us wait so long, it's not worth it!"  That's silly.

Here's a few more either due to "breakups",  hiatus or simple inactivity as a group.  There are probably many more, but this is what a quick search turns up.
Steely Dan 20 years
Devo 20 years
The Zombies 22 years
My Bloody Valentine 22 years
The Pixies 23 years
The Who 22 years
The Eagles 28 years
The Stooges 34 years

Yep.  Those albums may be great, and they may suck.  But there's literally no reason why the length of time from the previous album has anything to do with how good they are.

Agreed.  Though with some, there may be a pent up expectation of greatness that is not met, but then that's not the bands problem.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: very good on August 09, 2017, 10:22:36 AM
I'd rather wait 10 years for an album on a par with Achtung Baby than have an album on a par with Songs of Innocence released today.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: zoo adam on August 09, 2017, 10:27:00 AM
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No album is worth waiting 5 years for.

If SOE is released this year & is as good as SOI, I'll be happy as I liked SOI.

Where does SOI rank on your all time list?

Never done a list. However I wasn't disappointed with it & for me me it's a similar level to the others.

Only disappointed with the wait. But not surprised.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: xy on August 09, 2017, 10:52:25 AM
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U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?

Average, sure, but we certainly heard enough about SOE to reasonably expect it to land soon-ish (late 2017/Spring 2018).

And it may well do......i just don't see the 'problem' if it does not.



I do. Not only did they launch into a nostalgia tour instead of delivering new music, we're (fine, then...me - and I doubt I'm the only one) *still waiting - yes, waiting - for something that was allegedly "not that far away" back in 2014 when SOI came out. I dislike the idea that an album should take 4+ years to make, and no amount of touring can make it better. BTW all this coming from someone who considers SOI their best since AB.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on August 09, 2017, 12:01:44 PM
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No album is worth waiting 5 years for.

If SOE is released this year & is as good as SOI, I'll be happy as I liked SOI.

Where does SOI rank on your all time list?

Never done a list. However I wasn't disappointed with it & for me me it's a similar level to the others.

Only disappointed with the wait. But not surprised.

Fair enough...i suppose i was just looking to get a feel for if you considered it an all time great record...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on August 09, 2017, 12:03:55 PM
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U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?

Average, sure, but we certainly heard enough about SOE to reasonably expect it to land soon-ish (late 2017/Spring 2018).

And it may well do......i just don't see the 'problem' if it does not.



I do. Not only did they launch into a nostalgia tour instead of delivering new music, we're (fine, then...me - and I doubt I'm the only one) *still waiting - yes, waiting - for something that was allegedly "not that far away" back in 2014 when SOI came out. I dislike the idea that an album should take 4+ years to make, and no amount of touring can make it better. BTW all this coming from someone who considers SOI their best since AB.

I think the fact you are 'waiting' is why you feel it is a problem.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on August 09, 2017, 12:42:36 PM
also Van Halen reuniting with Roth after like 30 years and the Beach Boys reunion album i'm not even sure how long it'd be i guess since the 70's that Brian Wilson recorded or wrote with the group.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: acrobat62 on August 09, 2017, 12:50:21 PM
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also Van Halen reuniting with Roth after like 30 years and the Beach Boys reunion album i'm not even sure how long it'd be i guess since the 70's that Brian Wilson recorded or wrote with the group.


VH as a band 14 years between releases 28 between DLR releases.

BB looks like 16 years between studio releases.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on August 09, 2017, 01:03:36 PM
well technically it was 20 years, Summer In Paradise was 92. Star and Stripes is just some country music tribute to BB it's not an "album" anymore than the random best ofs youll find.

the Cars 1987 then 2011, 24 years.

the Pixies 1991 then 2014, 23 years.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: acrobat62 on August 09, 2017, 01:06:48 PM
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well technically it was 20 years, Summer In Paradise was 92. Star and Stripes is just some country music tribute to BB it's not an "album" anymore than the random best offs you'll find.

I sit corrected..... ::)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Johnny Feathers on August 09, 2017, 01:18:40 PM
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U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?

Average, sure, but we certainly heard enough about SOE to reasonably expect it to land soon-ish (late 2017/Spring 2018).

And it may well do......i just don't see the 'problem' if it does not.



I do. Not only did they launch into a nostalgia tour instead of delivering new music, we're (fine, then...me - and I doubt I'm the only one) *still waiting - yes, waiting - for something that was allegedly "not that far away" back in 2014 when SOI came out. I dislike the idea that an album should take 4+ years to make, and no amount of touring can make it better. BTW all this coming from someone who considers SOI their best since AB.

I think the fact you are 'waiting' is why you feel it is a problem.


Indeed.  I'm not sure how we can still be discussing this, but it's pretty silly to think the band has some obligation to provide a new album to anyone within any time frame YOU decide.  I'm sure the band would even probably LIKE to, but there are a million reasons why they may not do that.

I would encourage anyone "waiting" on U2 to produce a new album to go seek out other music in the meantime.  Or hey, create the music you yourself are "waiting" to hear.  But if you're simply going to "wait" on U2 to produce something, you don't really have anyone else to be upset with if they don't do so within the time you want.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 09, 2017, 02:12:12 PM
The fact that all of us check into the news and rumours section, suggests you're either waiting for news on a tour or album. Let's stop with the 'why are people waiting, who cares'..act.

Also, we're not getting achtung baby quality in 1 month, 1 year or 10.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Johnny Feathers on August 09, 2017, 02:18:57 PM
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The fact that all of us check into the news and rumours section, suggests you're either waiting for news on a tour or album. Let's stop with the 'why are people waiting, who cares'..act.

Also, we're not getting achtung baby quality in 1 month, 1 year or 10.


No, it doesn't.  I enjoy the band, and like discussing different aspects.  I'm not waiting on anything.

And no, we're not.  :)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on August 09, 2017, 02:20:30 PM
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The fact that all of us check into the news and rumours section, suggests you're either waiting for news on a tour or album. Let's stop with the 'why are people waiting, who cares'..act.

Also, we're not getting achtung baby quality in 1 month, 1 year or 10.

I can only speak for myself but i check into here each day out of habit and to touch base with people i enjoy talking with.

I can assure you i have absolutely no real expectation or impatience for or about a new u2 album.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 09, 2017, 02:33:40 PM
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The fact that all of us check into the news and rumours section, suggests you're either waiting for news on a tour or album. Let's stop with the 'why are people waiting, who cares'..act.

Also, we're not getting achtung baby quality in 1 month, 1 year or 10.

I can only speak for myself but i check into here each day out of habit and to touch base with people i enjoy talking with.

I can assure you i have absolutely no real expectation or impatience for or about a new u2 album.

Fair play, but I suspect most people are interested in hearing about a new album to be here in the first place. There's plenty of signals about an imminent album release its to be expected that people will express disappointment.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on August 09, 2017, 02:42:21 PM
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The fact that all of us check into the news and rumours section, suggests you're either waiting for news on a tour or album. Let's stop with the 'why are people waiting, who cares'..act.

Also, we're not getting achtung baby quality in 1 month, 1 year or 10.

I can only speak for myself but i check into here each day out of habit and to touch base with people i enjoy talking with.

I can assure you i have absolutely no real expectation or impatience for or about a new u2 album.

Fair play, but I suspect most people are interested in hearing about a new album to be here in the first place. There's plenty of signals about an imminent album release its to be expected that people will express disappointment.

I have no doubt at all that there will be a new u2 album in a pretty short amount of time - and i'll be interested in it when it lands.

Until it does speculating is fair enough, can be fun and is natural - i just don't personally understand people being 'put out' by it not being out yet.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 09, 2017, 02:47:33 PM
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The fact that all of us check into the news and rumours section, suggests you're either waiting for news on a tour or album. Let's stop with the 'why are people waiting, who cares'..act.

Also, we're not getting achtung baby quality in 1 month, 1 year or 10.

I can only speak for myself but i check into here each day out of habit and to touch base with people i enjoy talking with.

I can assure you i have absolutely no real expectation or impatience for or about a new u2 album.

Fair play, but I suspect most people are interested in hearing about a new album to be here in the first place. There's plenty of signals about an imminent album release its to be expected that people will express disappointment.

I have no doubt at all that there will be a new u2 album in a pretty short amount of time - and i'll be interested in it when it lands.

Until it does speculating is fair enough, can be fun and is natural - i just don't personally understand people being 'put out' by it not being out yet.

This is all based on one person's account of speaking to Chris Evans and nothing concrete.  The part I struggle with is that they would tell a radio presenter they're not happy with their work in the first place. I'm not convinced this is anything to go by, but not casting doubt on the fan that posted this info.

I think they'll release something soon too, even if just a standalone single.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 09, 2017, 02:50:31 PM
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The fact that all of us check into the news and rumours section, suggests you're either waiting for news on a tour or album. Let's stop with the 'why are people waiting, who cares'..act.

Also, we're not getting achtung baby quality in 1 month, 1 year or 10.


No, it doesn't.  I enjoy the band, and like discussing different aspects.  I'm not waiting on anything.

And no, we're not.  :)

I'm making assumptions and generalising.. and miscalculating this community  :o
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: jjcruiser on August 09, 2017, 03:05:29 PM
I don't think there can ever be another Achtung Baby.  I'm sure others have written this with more eloquence, but the fact that it was a pivot from the earnestness of the 80s into the excess and irony of the 90s, right at the height of the band's popularity and musical prowess, and, crucially, when so many fans were the right age and time to have it really sink in in a different way....I just don't think that's repeatable for them.  Maybe someone day someone else will make something like it.  But I won't be capable of appreciating it in the same way and I doubt it will be U2 doing it.

Doesn't mean I don't love all the later stuff and am not eagerly checking the news+rumors section to see if there are any updates on when SOE will be released, however. ;)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 09, 2017, 03:05:40 PM
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Sometime in the next 27 years guys


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Now that we know it was Chris and album news has already been spilled, any further detail you can shed. Wondering how Chris would know? I doubt he's in regular contact with the band.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 09, 2017, 03:08:41 PM
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Sometime in the next 27 years guys


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Now that we know it was Chris and album news has already been spilled, any further detail you can shed. Wondering how Chris would know? I doubt he's in regular contact with the band.

Also seriously doubt he's checking this forum, or any of this will get back to him or even remember telling you this, or what you look like by now  :)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: georgemccauley on August 09, 2017, 03:11:37 PM
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Sometime in the next 27 years guys


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Now that we know it was Chris and album news has already been spilled, any further detail you can shed. Wondering how Chris would know? I doubt he's in regular contact with the band.

Also seriously doubt he's checking this forum, or any of this will get back to him or even remember telling you this, or what you look like by now  :)

Well it doesn't really matter if it does get back to him to be honest. He didn't drop any bombshells of any kind. If he had of told me it was coming out this year then it would have been a different matter.

Chris has been a rumored friend of the band for many years from as far back as Popmart as I can remember.

The band have been holding listening parties for media and radio presenters, if that's true 100% chris would know what's going on with Songs of Experience


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 09, 2017, 03:23:49 PM
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Sometime in the next 27 years guys


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Now that we know it was Chris and album news has already been spilled, any further detail you can shed. Wondering how Chris would know? I doubt he's in regular contact with the band.

Also seriously doubt he's checking this forum, or any of this will get back to him or even remember telling you this, or what you look like by now  :)

Well it doesn't really matter if it does get back to him to be honest. He didn't drop any bombshells of any kind. If he had of told me it was coming out this year then it would have been a different matter.

Chris has been a rumored friend of the band for many years from as far back as Popmart as I can remember.

The band have been holding listening parties for media and radio presenters, if that's true 100% chris would know what's going on with Songs of Experience


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Thanks. Not questioning your authenticity.  Chris is the type to tease... and does contradict all the other stuff..the big hints bono has dropped at the shows and Clayton confirming ready to go... and why have listening parties if you're not happy with the material.

Not expecting answers on any of this... Don't shoot the messenger springs to mind  ;)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Vox on August 09, 2017, 03:55:24 PM
It's surprising to me that some people are acting shocked that there's a debate as to when the new U2 album is going to arrive.  Or people asking people why they are checking in if they don't think or care when a new U2 album is coming out. 

This thread's currently at, what, 16 pages?  Ladies and gentleman, I'd like to draw your attention to Exhibit A:  https://forum.atu2.com/index.php/topic,20639.6660.html

In another thread after that one was closed, NostaVoxness, on September 3, 2014, posted:  "Maybe the "New Album in (Anyone Care to Guess)" thread needed to be locked so the new album could finally come out.  That whole thread was like a horcrux, or something."  https://forum.atu2.com/index.php/topic,23909.msg1459856.html#msg1459856

So folks, what we need to do is abundantly clear:  get this thread up to 445 pages and get it shut down.  Wait a week, or so, and voila:  new U2 album.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: DGordon1 on August 09, 2017, 04:01:27 PM
There's nothing in any way unusual at being disappointed by a much alluded-to album being delayed. On said band's fansite no less.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: 73October on August 09, 2017, 04:02:12 PM
Well, if it was Simon Mayo who said something, I'd have more reason to believe it.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 09, 2017, 04:03:46 PM
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There's nothing in any way unusual at being disappointed by a much alluded-to album being delayed. On said band's fansite no less.

If it is indeed delayed and if indeed anybody on this thread actually cares  ::)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on August 09, 2017, 06:07:58 PM
trust me. any REAL LEGIT info on this album won't be discovered here. the real stuff will be posted all over social media before i even check the forums.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on August 09, 2017, 07:52:07 PM
I think the wells have dried up, the effort and time this album seems to have taken plus the subject matter it feels like it's the last curtain call.

The Little Things final 2 minutes really shines a light on the band and their current mindset particularly Bono's, more than any other song I have heard by them in 10+ years.

They don't owe us anything but I do think the longer it takes the more problematic it all becomes.
They don't want another NLOTH scenario on their hands. That record burned the hell out of them, Larry won't go down in flames again.


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: wik73 on August 09, 2017, 09:35:06 PM
Do we know for sure that the album is delayed?


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: The Edges Cat on August 10, 2017, 01:37:15 AM
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I think the wells have dried up, the effort and time this album seems to have taken plus the subject matter it feels like it's the last curtain call.

It was 5 years between NLOTH and SOI. It's only been 3 since SOI. So I'd say they're tracking better!

But I agree, feels like the end is coming. Wait, it's not coming. Yes it is. Sometimes.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on August 10, 2017, 02:05:00 AM
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I think the wells have dried up, the effort and time this album seems to have taken plus the subject matter it feels like it's the last curtain call.

It was 5 years between NLOTH and SOI. It's only been 3 since SOI. So I'd say they're tracking better!

But I agree, feels like the end is coming. Wait, it's not coming. Yes it is. Sometimes.

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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: zoo adam on August 10, 2017, 05:43:38 AM
A release this year of SOE will temporarily put U2 on the same release time levels as other huge but much younger bands Coldplay & Muse. These bands have often had 3 year gaps between albums.

It will also put U2 ahead of Radiohead who have had recent 4 & 5 year album gaps.

U2 may say they are not bothered about this, which would contradict their previous claims that they want to remain relevant.
 
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: xy on August 10, 2017, 07:11:19 AM
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U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?

Average, sure, but we certainly heard enough about SOE to reasonably expect it to land soon-ish (late 2017/Spring 2018).

And it may well do......i just don't see the 'problem' if it does not.



I do. Not only did they launch into a nostalgia tour instead of delivering new music, we're (fine, then...me - and I doubt I'm the only one) *still waiting - yes, waiting - for something that was allegedly "not that far away" back in 2014 when SOI came out. I dislike the idea that an album should take 4+ years to make, and no amount of touring can make it better. BTW all this coming from someone who considers SOI their best since AB.

I think the fact you are 'waiting' is why you feel it is a problem.


Indeed.  I'm not sure how we can still be discussing this, but it's pretty silly to think the band has some obligation to provide a new album to anyone within any time frame YOU decide.  I'm sure the band would even probably LIKE to, but there are a million reasons why they may not do that.

I would encourage anyone "waiting" on U2 to produce a new album to go seek out other music in the meantime.  Or hey, create the music you yourself are "waiting" to hear.  But if you're simply going to "wait" on U2 to produce something, you don't really have anyone else to be upset with if they don't do so within the time you want.

Let's not assume waiting on U2 means we're not listening to other music (though at least personally I am more invested in U2 news since they're my favourite act). And this is a U2 board, if Bono's hair or Larry's eyebrows can be discussed why not the pending album ? BTW I didn't decide the time frame, they did. They said it's coming back in 2014 when SOI came out and that Christmas video that announced JT30 to only mention two separate occasions. We've the right to express our dissatisfaction, surely.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Johnny Feathers on August 10, 2017, 07:43:03 AM
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U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?

Average, sure, but we certainly heard enough about SOE to reasonably expect it to land soon-ish (late 2017/Spring 2018).

And it may well do......i just don't see the 'problem' if it does not.



I do. Not only did they launch into a nostalgia tour instead of delivering new music, we're (fine, then...me - and I doubt I'm the only one) *still waiting - yes, waiting - for something that was allegedly "not that far away" back in 2014 when SOI came out. I dislike the idea that an album should take 4+ years to make, and no amount of touring can make it better. BTW all this coming from someone who considers SOI their best since AB.

I think the fact you are 'waiting' is why you feel it is a problem.


Indeed.  I'm not sure how we can still be discussing this, but it's pretty silly to think the band has some obligation to provide a new album to anyone within any time frame YOU decide.  I'm sure the band would even probably LIKE to, but there are a million reasons why they may not do that.

I would encourage anyone "waiting" on U2 to produce a new album to go seek out other music in the meantime.  Or hey, create the music you yourself are "waiting" to hear.  But if you're simply going to "wait" on U2 to produce something, you don't really have anyone else to be upset with if they don't do so within the time you want.

Let's not assume waiting on U2 means we're not listening to other music (though at least personally I am more invested in U2 news since they're my favourite act). And this is a U2 board, if Bono's hair or Larry's eyebrows can be discussed why not the pending album ? BTW I didn't decide the time frame, they did. They said it's coming back in 2014 when SOI came out and that Christmas video that announced JT30 to only mention two separate occasions. We've the right to express our dissatisfaction, surely.

Of course we can discuss the album.  But you just pointed out that you've been expecting the album since 2014.  Whether or not they indicated it would be out that year, or "soon", it's pretty well established that the band tends to be overly optimistic when it comes to predicting their own album releases.  I can't for the life of me imagine being upset that the band didn't put out a second album the same year that they just released one, no matter what they said.  Continuing to be dissatisfied for 3 years now just seems silly.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Messenger on August 10, 2017, 03:10:31 PM
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A release this year of SOE will temporarily put U2 on the same release time levels as other huge but much younger bands Coldplay & Muse. These bands have often had 3 year gaps between albums.

It will also put U2 ahead of Radiohead who have had recent 4 & 5 year album gaps.

U2 may say they are not bothered about this, which would contradict their previous claims that they want to remain relevant.
 

I don't see a connection between putting out albums quicker and relevance - as far as U2 is concerned anyway. They could release 3 albums in 2018 and it could do zero positive effevt on said "relevance".

Even the younger-younger crop of popular rock bands, Arcade Fire & Arctic Monkeys, are on roughly 3 year gaps too.

Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 11, 2017, 12:23:43 AM
They keep trying to chase relevance but they don't have the skills to put albums out in relevant time.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on August 11, 2017, 02:26:44 AM
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They keep trying to chase relevance but they don't have the skills to put albums out in relevant time.

Agreed. Can the zeitgeist even be captured anymore though? Times have changed enormously in a musical sense, even in the last 10 years. It's not what it used to be.

I think this is why U2 are so revered by some, a dying breed.


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: OnlyU2 on August 11, 2017, 09:05:54 AM
I know this clip was posted before, probably 3 or 4 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf6pyMd8B3M

from 1:15 on is in Bongolese.  Sounds good up until that part.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Johnny Feathers on August 11, 2017, 09:46:30 AM
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They keep trying to chase relevance but they don't have the skills to put albums out in relevant time.

Agreed. Can the zeitgeist even be captured anymore though? Times have changed enormously in a musical sense, even in the last 10 years. It's not what it used to be.

I think this is why U2 are so revered by some, a dying breed.


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If there is a zeitgeist, I don't think rock music has anything to do with it, especially not rock music performed by guys in their 50's who've been around since the 80's.  There's no zeitgeist to capture, and they couldn't do it if there was one anyway.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on August 11, 2017, 01:04:05 PM
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They keep trying to chase relevance but they don't have the skills to put albums out in relevant time.

Agreed. Can the zeitgeist even be captured anymore though? Times have changed enormously in a musical sense, even in the last 10 years. It's not what it used to be.

I think this is why U2 are so revered by some, a dying breed.


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If there is a zeitgeist, I don't think rock music has anything to do with it, especially not rock music performed by guys in their 50's who've been around since the 80's.  There's no zeitgeist to capture, and they couldn't do it if there was one anyway.

They'd sure like to.


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on August 11, 2017, 01:05:54 PM
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I know this clip was posted before, probably 3 or 4 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf6pyMd8B3M

from 1:15 on is in Bongolese.  Sounds good up until that part.

This must be The little things


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 11, 2017, 03:05:52 PM
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I know this clip was posted before, probably 3 or 4 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf6pyMd8B3M

from 1:15 on is in Bongolese.  Sounds good up until that part.

Sounds pretty good some of that. They must have loads in the archive of similar quality, so a shame they don't polish and release. Wonder if they ever look through the archives from jam sessions for inspiration, or just move forward with new idea's.

I know they stitch stuff together and keep songs as work in progress for years at a time, but I mean go back through the archives to 84 or something and rediscover hidden gems. Hidden gems that seemed like b besides back then, but now look like diamonds in the coal of the the Soe sessions...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on August 11, 2017, 03:24:39 PM
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I know this clip was posted before, probably 3 or 4 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf6pyMd8B3M

from 1:15 on is in Bongolese.  Sounds good up until that part.

Interesting... I've never actually heard this one before. The guitar bit reminds me of A Room At the Heartbreak Hotel, with its tremolo effect and chord progression.

That's a relatively high quality recording as well. Nothing remarkable though, the band probably have hundreds of jams like this in the vaults.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on August 11, 2017, 05:08:01 PM
i'd like to know where stuff like this comes from. this can't be recorded from a beach.
Title: SOE update
Post by: wik73 on August 11, 2017, 05:32:22 PM
I've been critical but I'm going to bet that both SOE and SOA will be two of there most interesting albums in terms of topic and audible aesthetics. I think they have more left in the tank and a creative period is coming.


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 11, 2017, 07:16:54 PM
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i'd like to know where stuff like this comes from. this can't be recorded from a beach.

This is one of multiple rehearsal recordings from 360 tour. These are long gone...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on August 11, 2017, 09:01:57 PM
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i'd like to know where stuff like this comes from. this can't be recorded from a beach.

This is one of multiple rehearsal recordings from 360 tour. These are long gone...

ok? it still doesn't explain where it came from. i mean someone just leaked it from the studio?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: The Edges Cat on August 11, 2017, 09:08:44 PM
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They keep trying to chase relevance

Relevance used to chase U2.
Title: Re: SOE update
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i'd like to know where stuff like this comes from. this can't be recorded from a beach.

This is one of multiple rehearsal recordings from 360 tour. These are long gone...

ok? it still doesn't explain where it came from. i mean someone just leaked it from the studio?

Just like how people get their inner ear monitors that tell each band member when to come into a song. Outdoor tours are always easy to catch recordings.

There was also this one from 360: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YrvdDqCIQnw
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on August 12, 2017, 12:15:07 AM
so this is from a soundcheck?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on August 12, 2017, 01:50:55 PM
I think it's a studio recording from electric lady, New York.
It's definitely the beginnings of TLTTGYA


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 12, 2017, 06:10:27 PM
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so this is from a soundcheck?

Yes, 360 tour. Long before they started going to electric lady in 2013
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on August 12, 2017, 07:00:32 PM
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so this is from a soundcheck?

Yes, 360 tour. Long before they started going to electric lady in 2013

ok so what else do we have similar to this?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: georgemccauley on August 12, 2017, 07:04:44 PM
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I know this clip was posted before, probably 3 or 4 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf6pyMd8B3M

from 1:15 on is in Bongolese.  Sounds good up until that part.

Sounds a bit like the early stages of Invisible actually
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: georgemccauley on August 12, 2017, 07:06:18 PM
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I think it's a studio recording from electric lady, New York.
It's definitely the beginnings of TLTTGYA


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Do we think that Little Things is going to sound on the album like it has been played live? Or will it sound completely different with a different arrangement on the album?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 12, 2017, 10:05:13 PM
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I think it's a studio recording from electric lady, New York.
It's definitely the beginnings of TLTTGYA


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Do we think that Little Things is going to sound on the album like it has been played live? Or will it sound completely different with a different arrangement on the album?

I think his singing will be a little more loose. Maybe a synth with the piano.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: paganini12345 on August 13, 2017, 10:31:59 AM
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Just like how people get their inner ear monitors that tell each band member when to come into a song. Outdoor tours are always easy to catch recordings.


The band don't know when to come in on their own songs?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on August 13, 2017, 11:15:14 AM
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Just like how people get their inner ear monitors that tell each band member when to come into a song. Outdoor tours are always easy to catch recordings.


The band don't know when to come in on their own songs?

Imagine if you are Bono and you are supposed to remember exactly when to come in with a song like Zooropa... that would be difficult, with its ambient and spacious intro that lacks a clear musical break.

It's especially tricky with songs that aren't written in a traditional 4/4 timing. Even playing a staple like Streets can be problematic if you haven't performed that song in a year or two (the time signature shifts from 3/4 to 4/4).
Title: Re: SOE update
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Just like how people get their inner ear monitors that tell each band member when to come into a song. Outdoor tours are always easy to catch recordings.


The band don't know when to come in on their own songs?

Imagine if you are Bono and you are supposed to remember exactly when to come in with a song like Zooropa... that would be difficult, with its ambient and spacious intro that lacks a clear musical break.

It's especially tricky with songs that aren't written in a traditional 4/4 timing. Even playing a staple like Streets can be problematic if you haven't performed that song in a year or two (the time signature shifts from 3/4 to 4/4).

Having visuals and video segments makes it hard too.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: paganini12345 on August 13, 2017, 01:44:42 PM
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It's especially tricky with songs that aren't written in a traditional 4/4 timing. Even playing a staple like Streets can be problematic if you haven't performed that song in a year or two (the time signature shifts from 3/4 to 4/4).

I play violin in an amateur orchestra so I'm used to time signatures changing every few bars from 5/5 to 7/8 and there is a lot happening in an orchestra.  I know pop music tends to stay in 4/4 but would still have expected the band to know  their own music well enough. But I guess there could be a lot of distractions and could be difficult to always hear what's going on.
Title: Re: SOE update
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It's especially tricky with songs that aren't written in a traditional 4/4 timing. Even playing a staple like Streets can be problematic if you haven't performed that song in a year or two (the time signature shifts from 3/4 to 4/4).

I play violin in an amateur orchestra so I'm used to time signatures changing every few bars from 5/5 to 7/8 and there is a lot happening in an orchestra.  I know pop music tends to stay in 4/4 but would still have expected the band to know  their own music well enough. But I guess there could be a lot of distractions and could be difficult to always hear what's going on.

Yeah, I'd say once your amateur orchestra has like 80,000 screaming fans in attendance you'll see the need for a little outside help hitting your mark.  ;D
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It's especially tricky with songs that aren't written in a traditional 4/4 timing. Even playing a staple like Streets can be problematic if you haven't performed that song in a year or two (the time signature shifts from 3/4 to 4/4).

I play violin in an amateur orchestra so I'm used to time signatures changing every few bars from 5/5 to 7/8 and there is a lot happening in an orchestra.  I know pop music tends to stay in 4/4 but would still have expected the band to know  their own music well enough. But I guess there could be a lot of distractions and could be difficult to always hear what's going on.
But you have a conductor too..

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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: miryclay on August 13, 2017, 06:40:02 PM
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i'd like to know where stuff like this comes from. this can't be recorded from a beach.

Son of a beach
Title: Re: SOE update
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i'd like to know where stuff like this comes from. this can't be recorded from a beach.

Son of a beach

Songs of beaches
Title: Re: SOE update
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It's definitely the beginnings of TLTTGYA


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Do we think that Little Things is going to sound on the album like it has been played live? Or will it sound completely different with a different arrangement on the album?

It'll be similar to the live version. I just hope they improve the end a little. The "sometimes" section is fabulous though.



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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: wraitii on August 14, 2017, 04:35:42 AM
The Sometimes section is definitely for sure the most amazing thing ever.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on August 14, 2017, 04:42:10 AM
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The Sometimes section is definitely for sure the most amazing thing ever.
the guitar...yes!
Title: Re: SOE update
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The Sometimes section is definitely for sure the most amazing thing ever.

It is nothing coldplay haven't done more than once.
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The Sometimes section is definitely for sure the most amazing thing ever.

It is nothing coldplay haven't done more than once.
(Shudders whenever U2 is compared to Coldplay)
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The Sometimes section is definitely for sure the most amazing thing ever.

It is nothing coldplay haven't done more than once.
(Shudders whenever U2 is compared to Coldplay)

It's like something from Ultraviolet. f*** Coldplay.
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It's especially tricky with songs that aren't written in a traditional 4/4 timing. Even playing a staple like Streets can be problematic if you haven't performed that song in a year or two (the time signature shifts from 3/4 to 4/4).

I play violin in an amateur orchestra so I'm used to time signatures changing every few bars from 5/5 to 7/8 and there is a lot happening in an orchestra.  I know pop music tends to stay in 4/4 but would still have expected the band to know  their own music well enough. But I guess there could be a lot of distractions and could be difficult to always hear what's going on.
But you have a conductor too..


True. I understand where you are coming from and agree but to be a little pedantic,  I conductor is not really there to help you count.  You need to know your own part, other parts and when you need to come in. Classical music tends to be more fluid than pop music with gradual and abrupt changes in dymanics and tempo all the way through a piece.  The conductor is there to guide through those changes.  As a pop/rock song tends to stick to the same tempo all the way through with drums or a click track keeping the tempo, I just was surprised to hear that the band needed help for when to come in.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Passenger on August 14, 2017, 08:19:18 AM
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It's especially tricky with songs that aren't written in a traditional 4/4 timing. Even playing a staple like Streets can be problematic if you haven't performed that song in a year or two (the time signature shifts from 3/4 to 4/4).

I play violin in an amateur orchestra so I'm used to time signatures changing every few bars from 5/5 to 7/8 and there is a lot happening in an orchestra.  I know pop music tends to stay in 4/4 but would still have expected the band to know  their own music well enough. But I guess there could be a lot of distractions and could be difficult to always hear what's going on.
But you have a conductor too..


True. I understand where you are coming from and agree but to be a little pedantic,  I conductor is not really there to help you count.  You need to know your own part, other parts and when you need to come in. Classical music tends to be more fluid than pop music with gradual and abrupt changes in dymanics and tempo all the way through a piece.  The conductor is there to guide through those changes.  As a pop/rock song tends to stick to the same tempo all the way through with drums or a click track keeping the tempo, I just was surprised to hear that the band needed help for when to come in.
Yah I play in a concert band.. I understand the role of the conductor and that a classically trained musician keeps count. But its not as if you're not relying on the their lead to guide you through the changes in dynamic, tempo, etc

For a bunch of self taught musicians playing on that big a stage, to sequencers, a click track  ensures they stay on beat. Bono/Edge are at times 30ft from larry and playing to prerecorded bits. There's less room for the fluidity you describe.

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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on August 14, 2017, 08:33:35 AM
I would also think that having the click track helps because they have SO many different songs, and they often change the songs a bit from tour to tour, even from night to night. It has to be hard to remember every single thing, especially with the distraction of the audience,  the distraction of the crew working around them, having occasional equipment problems, etc.  I know that Bono mucks up the words sometimes, which is very understandable, considering how many lyric he has written over the years. I would imagine the click track helping them keep the beat and helping them know when to enter the song is a huge help.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: paganini12345 on August 14, 2017, 09:20:04 AM
I'm not being critical of the click track or U2 in any way.  In fact I don't even like to make the comparison between a rock band an orchestra as they really are different things.
I was just surprised that 4 guys  using a click track had the need for queues. But the explanations people have given make perfect sense.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Saint1322 on August 14, 2017, 09:34:17 AM
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The Sometimes section is definitely for sure the most amazing thing ever.

It is nothing coldplay haven't done more than once.

That's like saying the Rolling Stones can't do something because The Black Crowes did it in the meantime. Coldplay have been U2-esque more than once; that doesn't mean that's suddenly their sound. I like Coldplay, but my Lord sometimes I forget who I am listening to. 
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on August 14, 2017, 09:41:59 AM
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I'm not being critical of the click track or U2 in any way.  In fact I don't even like to make the comparison between a rock band an orchestra as they really are different things.
I was just surprised that 4 guys  using a click track had the need for queues. But the explanations people have given make perfect sense.

They've probably got massive hearing damage too over the years!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on August 14, 2017, 09:57:35 AM
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The Sometimes section is definitely for sure the most amazing thing ever.

It is nothing coldplay haven't done more than once.

That's like saying the Rolling Stones can't do something because The Black Crowes did it in the meantime. Coldplay have been U2-esque more than once; that doesn't mean that's suddenly their sound. I like Coldplay, but my Lord sometimes I forget who I am listening to.

All i am saying is this section that is being called things like 'amazing' is very reminiscent of a trick coldplay have been pulling for years.

Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: wraitii on August 14, 2017, 10:26:24 AM
A trick U2's been pulling for about 40 years now...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Neil Young, man! on August 14, 2017, 10:54:43 AM
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The Sometimes section is definitely for sure the most amazing thing ever.

It is nothing coldplay haven't done more than once.

That's like saying the Rolling Stones can't do something because The Black Crowes did it in the meantime. Coldplay have been U2-esque more than once; that doesn't mean that's suddenly their sound. I like Coldplay, but my Lord sometimes I forget who I am listening to.
I don't mind if Coldplay are U2-esque, but any reference to U2 being Coldplay-esque, that is a big problem for me. Coldplay have some decent songs but are just so boring and poppy mainstream and their new techno stuff is just horrible. To me it's just filler music waiting for a chance for a crowd, mostly made up people who are not big music lovers in my experience, to sing whoa-whoa-whoa. Phew, glad I got that off my chest, I feel better now.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: miryclay on August 14, 2017, 11:13:15 AM
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The Sometimes section is definitely for sure the most amazing thing ever.

It is nothing coldplay haven't done more than once.

That's like saying the Rolling Stones can't do something because The Black Crowes did it in the meantime. Coldplay have been U2-esque more than once; that doesn't mean that's suddenly their sound. I like Coldplay, but my Lord sometimes I forget who I am listening to.
I don't mind if Coldplay are U2-esque, but any reference to U2 being Coldplay-esque, that is a big problem for me. Coldplay have some decent songs but are just so boring and poppy mainstream and their new techno stuff is just horrible. To me it's just filler music waiting for a chance for a crowd, mostly made up people who are not big music lovers in my experience, to sing whoa-whoa-whoa. Phew, glad I got that off my chest, I feel better now.

I don't really like CP either. Not dangerous enough and steeped in shallow 21st century global culture wash.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 14, 2017, 12:53:29 PM
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The Sometimes section is definitely for sure the most amazing thing ever.

It is nothing coldplay haven't done more than once.

That's like saying the Rolling Stones can't do something because The Black Crowes did it in the meantime. Coldplay have been U2-esque more than once; that doesn't mean that's suddenly their sound. I like Coldplay, but my Lord sometimes I forget who I am listening to.

All i am saying is this section that is being called things like 'amazing' is very reminiscent of a trick coldplay have been pulling for years.

'In my place' is a good example of Little Things sounding Coldplay. The first half of the song is much better than 'sometimes'
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on August 14, 2017, 01:09:28 PM
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The Sometimes section is definitely for sure the most amazing thing ever.

It is nothing coldplay haven't done more than once.

That's like saying the Rolling Stones can't do something because The Black Crowes did it in the meantime. Coldplay have been U2-esque more than once; that doesn't mean that's suddenly their sound. I like Coldplay, but my Lord sometimes I forget who I am listening to.

All i am saying is this section that is being called things like 'amazing' is very reminiscent of a trick coldplay have been pulling for years.

'In my place' is a good example of Little Things sounding Coldplay. The first half of the song is much better than 'sometimes'

Nothing like it in my book.


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: The Exile on August 14, 2017, 03:12:41 PM
Just saw this on the U2NT Facebook page:

'SONGS OF EXPERIENCE' FINISHED
"Confirmation that SOE is finished, to be released on World AIDS Day (Dec 1). 'Best Thing' first single for Sept 8, second single in progress." (via U2start.com)

Also this: http://www.u2songs.com/news/songs_of_experience_update1

We have also been told that the album will be promoted in advance of the December release date by two singles. “You’re the Best Thing About Me” is expected to be the first release, and should be issued to radio on Friday, September 8, 2017, which is the same week that The Joshua Tree 2017 tour resumes in North America. A video for “You’re the Best Thing About Me” was shot in Amsterdam in July. A remix of the song by DJ Kygo was played at a festival in Norway last August, but the version from the album is expected to be the one that Steve Lillywhite suggested he was mixing last September.

The second single is potentially being readied as well. U2gigs.Com report that a second new song was played for fans in Amsterdam while the band filmed a video for it. This second single would be released later in the fall, in early November, as a further promotional push for the album. Rumour has it that U2 worked on filming other material in Amsterdam as well, potentially shooting footage for up to four different projects. This is in addition to filming that was done in Soho in London in early July, at the Groucho Club. Although part of that day was spent on the Zane Lowe interview for Beats Radio, the band is also said to have filmed some material with their own film crew at that venue on that same day.


More recent news includes the fact that Universal Music branches internationally have been told about the forthcoming album and have been told to prepare for it in the fourth quarter of this calendar year. And some select American media outlets are expected to receive full listening sessions of the album in the coming days.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on August 14, 2017, 03:35:48 PM
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Just saw this on the U2NT Facebook page:

'SONGS OF EXPERIENCE' FINISHED
"Confirmation that SOE is finished, to be released on World AIDS Day (Dec 1). 'Best Thing' first single for Sept 8, second single in progress." (via U2start.com)

Also this: http://www.u2songs.com/news/songs_of_experience_update1

We have also been told that the album will be promoted in advance of the December release date by two singles. “You’re the Best Thing About Me” is expected to be the first release, and should be issued to radio on Friday, September 8, 2017, which is the same week that The Joshua Tree 2017 tour resumes in North America. A video for “You’re the Best Thing About Me” was shot in Amsterdam in July. A remix of the song by DJ Kygo was played at a festival in Norway last August, but the version from the album is expected to be the one that Steve Lillywhite suggested he was mixing last September.

The second single is potentially being readied as well. U2gigs.Com report that a second new song was played for fans in Amsterdam while the band filmed a video for it. This second single would be released later in the fall, in early November, as a further promotional push for the album. Rumour has it that U2 worked on filming other material in Amsterdam as well, potentially shooting footage for up to four different projects. This is in addition to filming that was done in Soho in London in early July, at the Groucho Club. Although part of that day was spent on the Zane Lowe interview for Beats Radio, the band is also said to have filmed some material with their own film crew at that venue on that same day.


More recent news includes the fact that Universal Music branches internationally have been told about the forthcoming album and have been told to prepare for it in the fourth quarter of this calendar year. And some select American media outlets are expected to receive full listening sessions of the album in the coming days.

not long then!


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 14, 2017, 04:08:51 PM
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Just saw this on the U2NT Facebook page:

'SONGS OF EXPERIENCE' FINISHED
"Confirmation that SOE is finished, to be released on World AIDS Day (Dec 1). 'Best Thing' first single for Sept 8, second single in progress." (via U2start.com)

Also this: http://www.u2songs.com/news/songs_of_experience_update1

We have also been told that the album will be promoted in advance of the December release date by two singles. “You’re the Best Thing About Me” is expected to be the first release, and should be issued to radio on Friday, September 8, 2017, which is the same week that The Joshua Tree 2017 tour resumes in North America. A video for “You’re the Best Thing About Me” was shot in Amsterdam in July. A remix of the song by DJ Kygo was played at a festival in Norway last August, but the version from the album is expected to be the one that Steve Lillywhite suggested he was mixing last September.

The second single is potentially being readied as well. U2gigs.Com report that a second new song was played for fans in Amsterdam while the band filmed a video for it. This second single would be released later in the fall, in early November, as a further promotional push for the album. Rumour has it that U2 worked on filming other material in Amsterdam as well, potentially shooting footage for up to four different projects. This is in addition to filming that was done in Soho in London in early July, at the Groucho Club. Although part of that day was spent on the Zane Lowe interview for Beats Radio, the band is also said to have filmed some material with their own film crew at that venue on that same day.


More recent news includes the fact that Universal Music branches internationally have been told about the forthcoming album and have been told to prepare for it in the fourth quarter of this calendar year. And some select American media outlets are expected to receive full listening sessions of the album in the coming days.

not long then!


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Once again all bad timing. Best Thing is a summer song. Not a fall song. Then they're supposedly going to release another single two months later. Not enough time to let the other single gets its spotlight time. Of course, Rumor has it supposedly...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 14, 2017, 04:16:09 PM
Universal music Ireland reported losses recently, they'll certainly be encouraging a release as soon as possible. I can't see it not being released before the year is out.. unless... they just decide to drop a single or two to test the waters and push back the date accordingly.

Either way, something new to critique soon!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Argo on August 14, 2017, 07:03:11 PM
Hopefully some good news there. what exactly is the U2NT facebook page ie anything reliable. Am not on FB myself.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on August 14, 2017, 07:20:03 PM
Nah...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on August 14, 2017, 07:48:32 PM
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Just saw this on the U2NT Facebook page:

'SONGS OF EXPERIENCE' FINISHED
"Confirmation that SOE is finished, to be released on World AIDS Day (Dec 1). 'Best Thing' first single for Sept 8, second single in progress." (via U2start.com)

Also this: http://www.u2songs.com/news/songs_of_experience_update1

We have also been told that the album will be promoted in advance of the December release date by two singles. “You’re the Best Thing About Me” is expected to be the first release, and should be issued to radio on Friday, September 8, 2017, which is the same week that The Joshua Tree 2017 tour resumes in North America. A video for “You’re the Best Thing About Me” was shot in Amsterdam in July. A remix of the song by DJ Kygo was played at a festival in Norway last August, but the version from the album is expected to be the one that Steve Lillywhite suggested he was mixing last September.

The second single is potentially being readied as well. U2gigs.Com report that a second new song was played for fans in Amsterdam while the band filmed a video for it. This second single would be released later in the fall, in early November, as a further promotional push for the album. Rumour has it that U2 worked on filming other material in Amsterdam as well, potentially shooting footage for up to four different projects. This is in addition to filming that was done in Soho in London in early July, at the Groucho Club. Although part of that day was spent on the Zane Lowe interview for Beats Radio, the band is also said to have filmed some material with their own film crew at that venue on that same day.


More recent news includes the fact that Universal Music branches internationally have been told about the forthcoming album and have been told to prepare for it in the fourth quarter of this calendar year. And some select American media outlets are expected to receive full listening sessions of the album in the coming days.

not long then!


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Once again all bad timing. Best Thing is a summer song. Not a fall song. Then they're supposedly going to release another single two months later. Not enough time to let the other single gets its spotlight time. Of course, Rumor has it supposedly...

nah, that's normal now.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: ultravioletlight on August 14, 2017, 10:44:40 PM
Well it's definitely happening. Very excited.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on August 14, 2017, 10:45:51 PM
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Well it's definitely happening. Very excited.

again this is just a rumor.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Pouakai on August 15, 2017, 12:40:13 AM
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Once again all bad timing. Best Thing is a summer song. Not a fall song.

You seem fairly confident about that having never heard the song
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: zoo adam on August 15, 2017, 01:06:47 AM
Two singles before an album release ? That's different.

Usually a lead single & album are released around the same time. A second single is then released a few weeks later to try to keep album sales up.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: mc on August 15, 2017, 01:42:19 AM
Best thing is the real thing with different. 'When you look so good.......'
'Give me one more chance and youll be satisfied....'
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: wraitii on August 15, 2017, 02:12:20 AM
With them having filmed a video, it does seem likely-ish we'll get something soon.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Johnny Feathers on August 15, 2017, 08:54:12 AM
Interesting news.  I'm curious to see if it indeed pans out this way.  Though I do enjoy the fact that some folks have already found something to criticize regarding the timing of the single, if it actually is released per this announcement.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 15, 2017, 09:36:39 AM
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Once again all bad timing. Best Thing is a summer song. Not a fall song.

You seem fairly confident about that having never heard the song

I'm fairly confident I heard it last august when Bono was blasting it on the beach. Everyone else seems to have forgotten about that mix since kygo played it a dj festival. The dj festival had the single just being djed live.
I don't understand why people keep calling it the kygo remix. Kygo is on the original studio mix.

Regardless of whether the lines change from
"When the world is ours every door smells of fresh paint" to other cheesy lyrics like
"Got a golden ring and blah blah blah"
The chorus is definitely still going to be the same.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: mikepd on August 15, 2017, 09:52:34 AM
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Once again all bad timing. Best Thing is a summer song. Not a fall song.



how do you know Kygo is on original studio mix ?   anyway from what I have heard its awful bland pop that maybe the final straw for me - as Little Things also completely under-whelming !

You seem fairly confident about that having never heard the song

I'm fairly confident I heard it last august when Bono was blasting it on the beach. Everyone else seems to have forgotten about that mix since kygo played it a dj festival. The dj festival had the single just being djed live.
I don't understand why people keep calling it the kygo remix. Kygo is on the original studio mix.

Regardless of whether the lines change from
"When the world is ours every door smells of fresh paint" to other cheesy lyrics like
"Got a golden ring and blah blah blah"
The chorus is definitely still going to be the same.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 15, 2017, 10:50:13 AM
Looks like they may be recording acoustic versions of the songs per the recent social media post in the studio
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Izzy on August 15, 2017, 11:16:43 AM
Going to free up some room on my phone for the free album download!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 15, 2017, 02:11:50 PM
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Once again all bad timing. Best Thing is a summer song. Not a fall song.



how do you know Kygo is on original studio mix ?   anyway from what I have heard its awful bland pop that maybe the final straw for me - as Little Things also completely under-whelming !

You seem fairly confident about that having never heard the song

I'm fairly confident I heard it last august when Bono was blasting it on the beach. Everyone else seems to have forgotten about that mix since kygo played it a dj festival. The dj festival had the single just being djed live.
I don't understand why people keep calling it the kygo remix. Kygo is on the original studio mix.

Regardless of whether the lines change from
"When the world is ours every door smells of fresh paint" to other cheesy lyrics like
"Got a golden ring and blah blah blah"
The chorus is definitely still going to be the same.

1. Kygo played it at his little djj concert. Why play a song that you have no work in/on for sure?

2. He said it in an interview about how u2 came to him and fell in love with the end result- "the best thing". Regardless I have no doubt he will have credit on SOE
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Jono on August 15, 2017, 04:13:36 PM
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Everyone is noting the Fisher Price recorder on the shelves...shhh! That was my attempt to be better than the beach clips!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Vox on August 15, 2017, 05:58:30 PM
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Everyone is noting the Fisher Price recorder on the shelves...shhh! That was my attempt to be better than the beach clips!

U2 is like, "they think we sound too polished, too overproduced, do they?  f*** it, let's record the whole album on a circa 1986 Fischer Price Push & Play."
Title: Re: SOE update
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Everyone is noting the Fisher Price recorder on the shelves...shhh! That was my attempt to be better than the beach clips!

U2 is like, "they think we sound too polished, too overproduced, do they?  f*** it, let's record the whole album on a circa 1986 Fischer Price Push & Play."

That would actually be a pretty badass response to all of the fans (like myself) that complain about that...
Title: Re: SOE update
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Everyone is noting the Fisher Price recorder on the shelves...shhh! That was my attempt to be better than the beach clips!

U2 is like, "they think we sound too polished, too overproduced, do they?  f*** it, let's record the whole album on a circa 1986 Fischer Price Push & Play."

That would actually be a pretty badass response to all of the fans (like myself) that complain about that...

I wouldn't mind at all
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: renno on August 16, 2017, 02:03:07 AM
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.ie/news/1402351/u2-set-to-release-eagerly-awaited-new-album-songs-of-experience-on-december-1-world-aids-day/amp/
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: renno on August 16, 2017, 02:39:24 AM
That's a cool picture apart from Bonos sandles :-)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: david on August 16, 2017, 02:40:04 AM
Doesn't sound too promising...sounds like we are getting another version of SOI with a bit more of a Joshua Tree feel to it. A song about Bono falling off his bike? We could do without that.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on August 16, 2017, 02:44:01 AM
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Doesn't sound too promising...sounds like we are getting another version of SOI with a bit more of a Joshua Tree feel to it. A song about Bono falling off his bike? We could do without that.

It's a companion piece to SOI of course it's going to be similar!

Much more better is a good name for a song, and reasonably short in word count and syllables, a rarity in this era!


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Zoostation07 on August 16, 2017, 03:28:01 AM
I think we can be fairly sure that barring any major disaster SOE will be released as per the rumoured schedule. This is a band capitalising on some excellent press, especially here in the UK where the Twickenham shows were almost universally given 4 and 5 star ratings.

I think the 'we need to tweak SOE because of world events..' stuff was BS. They knew they couldn't release a singe either before or during the JT2017 campaign as it would be incongruous and they planned or needed to do JT2017 to honour their Live Nation contract - to be fair to U2 they put a huge amount of effort into delivering that in a really spectacular way that didn't feel at all dated or nostalgic (the best U2 show I've seen - period).

I remember the initial idea way back when SOI was released was a SOI indoor our followed by a SOE outdoor show - this is basically what has happened but the outdoor show was JT2017. I think it's probably fair to say that a stadium tour supporting SOE would not have been as easy a sell as JT2017 turned out to be based on the current economic climate, U2's 'draw' and the fact that they'd only just toured a year or so previously.

Now however I think that they'll be in a fairly good position to sell out an arena tour, especially in the UK and Europe where there were limited shows in limited cities on the JT tour. They've enough 'hardcore' fans who'll happily go and see them again (me included) and you're looking at 15-20K tix per show as opposed to 40-60K in a stadium.

On a side note...

For me the media support and general positivity that surrounded the JT shows (from the media - even traditionally U2sceptics like the Guardian which gave the show 5/5) felt a bit like when the Stones did the 40 Licks shows - people seemed to have got over the fact they were older and the new stuff wasn't all that good but they were just pleased to be able to hear those songs played by a band who were playing better than ever and were putting on a great show. Unless SOE is complete balls - which it could be as SOI is pretty much total rubbish - then I think they'll be in for a good ride from the press. It feels that we generally need some 'big music' with some heart & soul. Just look at the mauling that Arcade Fire have had over their new album trying to be too clever and basically being criticised for NOT having any heart & soul.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: The Edges Cat on August 16, 2017, 04:04:15 AM
Single definitely September. Meow.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Peter Parker on August 16, 2017, 04:35:39 AM
Maybe I should get the U2.com membership for the first time! They need to come to Scandinavia.

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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on August 16, 2017, 05:01:04 AM
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I think we can be fairly sure that barring any major disaster SOE will be released as per the rumoured schedule. This is a band capitalising on some excellent press, especially here in the UK where the Twickenham shows were almost universally given 4 and 5 star ratings.

I think the 'we need to tweak SOE because of world events..' stuff was BS. They knew they couldn't release a singe either before or during the JT2017 campaign as it would be incongruous and they planned or needed to do JT2017 to honour their Live Nation contract - to be fair to U2 they put a huge amount of effort into delivering that in a really spectacular way that didn't feel at all dated or nostalgic (the best U2 show I've seen - period).

I remember the initial idea way back when SOI was released was a SOI indoor our followed by a SOE outdoor show - this is basically what has happened but the outdoor show was JT2017. I think it's probably fair to say that a stadium tour supporting SOE would not have been as easy a sell as JT2017 turned out to be based on the current economic climate, U2's 'draw' and the fact that they'd only just toured a year or so previously.

Now however I think that they'll be in a fairly good position to sell out an arena tour, especially in the UK and Europe where there were limited shows in limited cities on the JT tour. They've enough 'hardcore' fans who'll happily go and see them again (me included) and you're looking at 15-20K tix per show as opposed to 40-60K in a stadium.

On a side note...

For me the media support and general positivity that surrounded the JT shows (from the media - even traditionally U2sceptics like the Guardian which gave the show 5/5) felt a bit like when the Stones did the 40 Licks shows - people seemed to have got over the fact they were older and the new stuff wasn't all that good but they were just pleased to be able to hear those songs played by a band who were playing better than ever and were putting on a great show. Unless SOE is complete balls - which it could be as SOI is pretty much total rubbish - then I think they'll be in for a good ride from the press. It feels that we generally need some 'big music' with some heart & soul. Just look at the mauling that Arcade Fire have had over their new album trying to be too clever and basically being criticised for NOT having any heart & soul.

Is the new Arcade Fire no good? Haven't listened yet...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: zoolov on August 16, 2017, 05:04:02 AM
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I think we can be fairly sure that barring any major disaster SOE will be released as per the rumoured schedule. This is a band capitalising on some excellent press, especially here in the UK where the Twickenham shows were almost universally given 4 and 5 star ratings.

I think the 'we need to tweak SOE because of world events..' stuff was BS. They knew they couldn't release a singe either before or during the JT2017 campaign as it would be incongruous and they planned or needed to do JT2017 to honour their Live Nation contract - to be fair to U2 they put a huge amount of effort into delivering that in a really spectacular way that didn't feel at all dated or nostalgic (the best U2 show I've seen - period).

I remember the initial idea way back when SOI was released was a SOI indoor our followed by a SOE outdoor show - this is basically what has happened but the outdoor show was JT2017. I think it's probably fair to say that a stadium tour supporting SOE would not have been as easy a sell as JT2017 turned out to be based on the current economic climate, U2's 'draw' and the fact that they'd only just toured a year or so previously.

Now however I think that they'll be in a fairly good position to sell out an arena tour, especially in the UK and Europe where there were limited shows in limited cities on the JT tour. They've enough 'hardcore' fans who'll happily go and see them again (me included) and you're looking at 15-20K tix per show as opposed to 40-60K in a stadium.

On a side note...

For me the media support and general positivity that surrounded the JT shows (from the media - even traditionally U2sceptics like the Guardian which gave the show 5/5) felt a bit like when the Stones did the 40 Licks shows - people seemed to have got over the fact they were older and the new stuff wasn't all that good but they were just pleased to be able to hear those songs played by a band who were playing better than ever and were putting on a great show. Unless SOE is complete balls - which it could be as SOI is pretty much total rubbish - then I think they'll be in for a good ride from the press. It feels that we generally need some 'big music' with some heart & soul. Just look at the mauling that Arcade Fire have had over their new album trying to be too clever and basically being criticised for NOT having any heart & soul.

Yes yes yes! This was a very insightful post, thank you for taking the time to write that. I agree with you on everything, although... I do have a soft spot for SOI (but not for the PR strategy). Now: roll on SOE!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Neil Young, man! on August 16, 2017, 05:34:28 AM
'Lighter than anything on SoI' does not sound good for Best thing. I want as heavy as the heaviest and darkest on SoI! Sleep like a baby, Troubles, ...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: boom boom on August 16, 2017, 05:54:59 AM
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'Lighter than anything on SoI' does not sound good for Best thing. I want as heavy as the heaviest and darkest on SoI! Sleep like a baby, Troubles, ...
Totally agree.  Not too thrilled of YTBTAM being the first single.  Another attempt of  trying to get a radio friendly track.  Also not to happy of an acoustic track on the album.  I was hoping for dark and heavy. Wait and see I guess.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Backstreets92 on August 16, 2017, 07:12:01 AM
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Everyone is noting the Fisher Price recorder on the shelves...shhh! That was my attempt to be better than the beach clips!
Why is Bono standing like Liam Gallagher?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Backstreets92 on August 16, 2017, 07:25:52 AM
It looks like that album cover U2Songs leaked back in, what, late May? with Bono and Edge's kids on it and a December 1 release date sticker actually turned out to be right.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Izzy on August 16, 2017, 08:15:32 AM
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Everyone is noting the Fisher Price recorder on the shelves...shhh! That was my attempt to be better than the beach clips!
Why is Bono standing like Liam Gallagher?

Passing the gas?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Daniel94 on August 16, 2017, 08:33:02 AM
Hmm... Fanning's descriptions aren't too promising. We shall see.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: zoo world order on August 16, 2017, 09:06:12 AM
The Irish Sun is a low brow tabloid rag in Ireland and I wouldnt give much credence to what they say. It sounds like they've used the recent web based  rumours as a basis for the article. Fanning description of the songs concerns me.

A song about Bono falling of his bicycle?


Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: lucas.homem on August 16, 2017, 09:15:45 AM
What's the problem of a song about Bono's bike accident?

It was something big in his life (beyond the pain itself), that made him realize his fragility, age and vulnerability. It even affected his lifestyle and his relationship with music composition, since he couldn't play the guitar anymore.

This is a legitimate topic. If the lyrics will be any good, I don't know.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Smee on August 16, 2017, 09:47:47 AM
I reckon Bono's claims that SoE was akin to Zooropa, was just a croc of chit. I have to say.....im underwhelemed with what i know of the album so far (TLTTGYA and Best Thing). Admittedly, the latter is based on what i heard from a remix, but i heard enough to get a measure of the song melody etc. And i aint impressed. Im preparing myself for disappointment
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: very good on August 16, 2017, 09:57:02 AM
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I think we can be fairly sure that barring any major disaster SOE will be released as per the rumoured schedule. This is a band capitalising on some excellent press, especially here in the UK where the Twickenham shows were almost universally given 4 and 5 star ratings.

I think the 'we need to tweak SOE because of world events..' stuff was BS. They knew they couldn't release a singe either before or during the JT2017 campaign as it would be incongruous and they planned or needed to do JT2017 to honour their Live Nation contract - to be fair to U2 they put a huge amount of effort into delivering that in a really spectacular way that didn't feel at all dated or nostalgic (the best U2 show I've seen - period).

I remember the initial idea way back when SOI was released was a SOI indoor our followed by a SOE outdoor show - this is basically what has happened but the outdoor show was JT2017. I think it's probably fair to say that a stadium tour supporting SOE would not have been as easy a sell as JT2017 turned out to be based on the current economic climate, U2's 'draw' and the fact that they'd only just toured a year or so previously.

Now however I think that they'll be in a fairly good position to sell out an arena tour, especially in the UK and Europe where there were limited shows in limited cities on the JT tour. They've enough 'hardcore' fans who'll happily go and see them again (me included) and you're looking at 15-20K tix per show as opposed to 40-60K in a stadium.

On a side note...

For me the media support and general positivity that surrounded the JT shows (from the media - even traditionally U2sceptics like the Guardian which gave the show 5/5) felt a bit like when the Stones did the 40 Licks shows - people seemed to have got over the fact they were older and the new stuff wasn't all that good but they were just pleased to be able to hear those songs played by a band who were playing better than ever and were putting on a great show. Unless SOE is complete balls - which it could be as SOI is pretty much total rubbish - then I think they'll be in for a good ride from the press. It feels that we generally need some 'big music' with some heart & soul. Just look at the mauling that Arcade Fire have had over their new album trying to be too clever and basically being criticised for NOT having any heart & soul.

Yes yes yes! This was a very insightful post, thank you for taking the time to write that. I agree with you on everything, although... I do have a soft spot for SOI (but not for the PR strategy). Now: roll on SOE!

I agree - this post is absolute spot on. And I agree with SOI being basically rubbish.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Passenger on August 16, 2017, 10:00:08 AM
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Hmm... Fanning's descriptions aren't too promising. We shall see.
The only thing he actually describes is Best Thing.

The song descriptions aren't his, they're the article author's descriptions. Atu2 and others are reporting this incorrectly...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 16, 2017, 10:46:13 AM
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That's a cool picture apart from Bonos sandles :-)

They're sliders and in fashion. I have a pair. Get down with the kids and 57 year old rock stars please 🤘
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 16, 2017, 10:48:50 AM
Somewhere between soi and JT to me suggests some sonic similarities and feel to JT and song quality soi.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: jrodr079 on August 16, 2017, 10:51:56 AM
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Is the new Arcade Fire no good? Haven't listened yet...

Pitchfork who used to be their biggest fans from day 1 gave the album a 5.6/10. "The Montreal band’s fifth album finds them in musical and lyrical stasis. The pale, joyless songs don’t transcend their social critique—they succumb to it."

Review here: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/arcade-fire-everything-now/

Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 16, 2017, 11:00:51 AM
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Is the new Arcade Fire no good? Haven't listened yet...

Pitchfork who used to be their biggest fans from day 1 gave the album a 5.6/10. "The Montreal band’s fifth album finds them in musical and lyrical stasis. The pale, joyless songs don’t transcend their social critique—they succumb to it."

Review here: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/arcade-fire-everything-now/

Given it one listen and was a little disappointed, good but not great. could be a grower. A very play it safe lead single. Loved their previous 2 albums and doesn't seem on par with then.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 16, 2017, 11:58:26 AM
Fanning says the guitar work on "best thing" is like Nile Rodgers. The ending of the kygo dj event is probably what he means.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: rubbersoul on August 16, 2017, 12:14:57 PM
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Everyone is noting the Fisher Price recorder on the shelves...shhh! That was my attempt to be better than the beach clips!
Why is Bono standing like Liam Gallagher?
Cos he's a fan :-)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: mattryan94 on August 16, 2017, 12:21:23 PM
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Fanning says the guitar work on "best thing" is like Nile Rodgers. The ending of the kygo dj event is probably what he means.

Now I'm imagining Edge sandwiched between Daft Punk and Pharell, not sure how that would look/sound lol. It does give me flashbacks to Bono butchering Get Lucky haha.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Saint1322 on August 16, 2017, 12:21:54 PM
So in other words, the schedule looks likely to unfold exactly the way us old folks tried to say it would while some of y'all were running around with your hair on fire claiming the addition of a month's worth of TJT shows meant the album was dead and we were looking at 2019. I don't think I've ever been more glad to be right, not just for the sake of being right, but that the album and tour are coming soon! :)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 16, 2017, 12:48:47 PM
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So in other words, the schedule looks likely to unfold exactly the way us old folks tried to say it would while some of y'all were running around with your hair on fire claiming the addition of a month's worth of TJT shows meant the album was dead and we were looking at 2019. I don't think I've ever been more glad to be right, not just for the sake of being right, but that the album and tour are coming soon! :)


Maybe wait until it's official before serving humble pie? Chris Evans will need a big slice if this is true.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on August 16, 2017, 12:55:18 PM
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So in other words, the schedule looks likely to unfold exactly the way us old folks tried to say it would while some of y'all were running around with your hair on fire claiming the addition of a month's worth of TJT shows meant the album was dead and we were looking at 2019. I don't think I've ever been more glad to be right, not just for the sake of being right, but that the album and tour are coming soon! :)

Should I bookmark this post before the album is postponed to 2018?
Title: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on August 16, 2017, 01:07:25 PM
Almost 3 weeks till the single, we'll know by then if we have an album.

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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Saint1322 on August 16, 2017, 01:07:50 PM
I said LOOKS LIKELY, not that it is etched in stone, and I don't want anyone to eat humble anything. That wasn't my point at all; I am just saying, IF this timeline pans out, I hope folks remember next time not to overreact and panic and assume the worst all the time. Nothing more.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 16, 2017, 01:21:05 PM
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I said LOOKS LIKELY, not that it is etched in stone, and I don't want anyone to eat humble anything. That wasn't my point at all; I am just saying, IF this timeline pans out, I hope folks remember next time not to overreact and panic and assume the worst all the time. Nothing more.

 "I don't think I've ever been more glad to be right"
Right about what? Did you predict the sun newspaper would print a rumour? Or you've never been more more glad to be right about something that might happen?

Just read like you were berating the naysayers, but appreciate that wasn't the intention.

Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: mc on August 16, 2017, 01:21:26 PM
Steve Wright announced it today on radio 2 for Dec 1st release....though did say the source was NME
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: MadRob360 on August 16, 2017, 01:26:31 PM
I can't say i agree at all that SOI is rubbish - there's some decent tunes there, Fair enough some phoned in stuff like California and SFS, but i still like both tunes for what they are. But music being subjective and all i respect opinions :D I'm looking forward to SOE with an open mind, i've said before compared to what most are putting out nowadays U2 shouldn't have to try so hard in a world of phoned in pop crap that all sounds the same. They're gonna chase having 'hits' it's what they do now so bound to get a few radio friendly tunes. I just enjoy the fact my favourite band is still making new music that comes across really well live :D
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Saint1322 on August 16, 2017, 01:31:57 PM
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I said LOOKS LIKELY, not that it is etched in stone, and I don't want anyone to eat humble anything. That wasn't my point at all; I am just saying, IF this timeline pans out, I hope folks remember next time not to overreact and panic and assume the worst all the time. Nothing more.

 "I don't think I've ever been more glad to be right"
Right about what? Did you predict the sun newspaper would print a rumour? Or you've never been more more glad to be right about something that might happen?

Just read like you were berating the naysayers, but appreciate that wasn't the intention.



I wasn't berating anyone. Being that negative is its own punishment. Again, my point is, there is no reason to be so negative and live your fears before the ever even happen. As I said, I just hope, IF this rumor is true, that people remember all the negativity that will have been for nothing.

If this rumor turns out to be true, then it will back-up rumors we've been hearing for a while now, rumors myself and others have been saying fit what U2 have done in recent years. That's good news for everyone!

Remember, people were hysterical when TJT30 was announced, insisting this meant SOE was in the toilet and dead and years away. The muse is dead, U2 are the Rolling Stones, they have sold out, this is a de facto hits/farewell tour, blah, blah, blah. Then, the additional tour dates brought the paranoia back out. All I said at the time was, this tour does not mean we won't get SOE later this year and a tour next. RELAX. IF these rumors are true, I (and many others) will have been right.

Then, the 12/1 date surfaced, and I (and others) said 'There you go; makes perfect sense'.

Sometimes, you don't need inside information; you just need reliable tidbits and a calendar. And it could still all blow up. I doubt it though.

Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WhenIsSOE on August 16, 2017, 01:39:16 PM
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The coverage by u2songs is phenomenal. Very reliable with their sources and articles.




I want to believe this album is out Dec 1st, but they've never once said what their sources are. If you can give me at least 3-5 occasions in the past where they've been right, then this is probably true.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WhenIsSOE on August 16, 2017, 01:43:50 PM

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They should just put out an EP, if they want criticism
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What does that even mean?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Saint1322 on August 16, 2017, 01:50:30 PM
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The coverage by u2songs is phenomenal. Very reliable with their sources and articles.




I want to believe this album is out Dec 1st, but they've never once said what their sources are. If you can give me at least 3-5 occasions in the past where they've been right, then this is probably true.

It isn't just them. This is one of those situations where several different sources and evidence appear to be pointing the same direction. If @u2 didn't think there was something here, the story wouldn't be on their front page. This is a fan site, but it isn't without its contacts and sources.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on August 16, 2017, 01:56:00 PM
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[/quote/]

They should just put out an EP, if they want criticism

What does that even mean?
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Do you not know what an EP is? It stands for Extended Play and it usually consists of 4-5 songs.

The OP is thinking that if U2 released an EP similar to what is already set for SOE, it would help them gauge what their audience wants.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 16, 2017, 02:26:45 PM
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I said LOOKS LIKELY, not that it is etched in stone, and I don't want anyone to eat humble anything. That wasn't my point at all; I am just saying, IF this timeline pans out, I hope folks remember next time not to overreact and panic and assume the worst all the time. Nothing more.

 "I don't think I've ever been more glad to be right"
Right about what? Did you predict the sun newspaper would print a rumour? Or you've never been more more glad to be right about something that might happen?

Just read like you were berating the naysayers, but appreciate that wasn't the intention.



I wasn't berating anyone. Being that negative is its own punishment. Again, my point is, there is no reason to be so negative and live your fears before the ever even happen. As I said, I just hope, IF this rumor is true, that people remember all the negativity that will have been for nothing.

If this rumor turns out to be true, then it will back-up rumors we've been hearing for a while now, rumors myself and others have been saying fit what U2 have done in recent years. That's good news for everyone!

Remember, people were hysterical when TJT30 was announced, insisting this meant SOE was in the toilet and dead and years away. The muse is dead, U2 are the Rolling Stones, they have sold out, this is a de facto hits/farewell tour, blah, blah, blah. Then, the additional tour dates brought the paranoia back out. All I said at the time was, this tour does not mean we won't get SOE later this year and a tour next. RELAX. IF these rumors are true, I (and many others) will have been right.

Then, the 12/1 date surfaced, and I (and others) said 'There you go; makes perfect sense'.

Sometimes, you don't need inside information; you just need reliable tidbits and a calendar. And it could still all blow up. I doubt it though.

Fair play, I ain't got no beef.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: georgemccauley on August 16, 2017, 02:32:14 PM
Huge huge news today. Loving it, If we do end up getting SOE in december, this will mean that a tour next year is imminent also. What a year it will have been for the band, certainly making up for a non existent 2016. Amen!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on August 16, 2017, 02:39:13 PM
I'd NEVER read The S*n but to those who do i'd advise you to check the date on the front is accurate.

The filthy, lying sh*thouse rag.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 16, 2017, 02:50:45 PM
I can't wait for SOE to release and then everyone will immediately start asking about the next one 😂
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: codeguy on August 16, 2017, 03:23:47 PM
Irish Sun is very unreliable. I'd bet they are simply putting out information they got from a fansite
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Saint1322 on August 16, 2017, 03:35:56 PM
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Irish Sun is very unreliable. I'd bet they are simply putting out information they got from a fansite

Sounds like it, but this site trusts the information enough in spite of the dubious reputation of the Irish Sun. That says something, IMO.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: ShankAsu on August 16, 2017, 03:38:22 PM
i'll never read the Sun again after they took away my Rosie Jones
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: durk on August 16, 2017, 05:50:46 PM
it all has the ring of truth to it.
single in sept- album in dec.
i for one believe it.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: MPare1966 on August 16, 2017, 06:24:29 PM
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I can't wait for SOE to release and then everyone will immediately start asking about the next one 😂

^^^^^^
 ;D
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on August 16, 2017, 06:40:08 PM
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I can't wait for SOE to release and then everyone will immediately start asking about the next one 😂

^^^^^^
 ;D
This, but FIRST, we have to start theorizing about the SOE tour!!!  :-X
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: DisgruntledSherpa on August 16, 2017, 06:55:39 PM
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i'll never read the Sun again after they took away my Rosie Jones

THEY WHAT?!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on August 16, 2017, 07:06:51 PM
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I can't wait for SOE to release and then everyone will immediately start asking about the next one 😂

right, SOA. let's see if SOE actually really happens.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 16, 2017, 08:47:43 PM
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I can't wait for SOE to release and then everyone will immediately start asking about the next one 😂

^^^^^^
 ;D
This, but FIRST, we have to start theorizing about the SOE tour!!!  :-X

I have a feeling they will bring out the vertigo tour main stage and put a giant 'e' on it. Then they'll have the catwalk from IE and the new b stage will be an 'i'. Same screen from IE too
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: tommyboy6913 on August 16, 2017, 10:29:14 PM
I believe it's going to happen folks. Single due next month and release on Dec 1st. I really like SOI but as I have been saying for the past 2 years, SOE will be the better album.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: MASTER YODA on August 16, 2017, 10:39:45 PM
This album doesn't sound like it could be better than SOI from reading what's been happening
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: trevgreg on August 17, 2017, 06:35:03 AM
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This album doesn't sound like it could be better than SOI from reading what's been happening

I'll probably wait until I hear the actual songs before determining that. But that's just me.

I've kept myself from hearing any clips or live material yet though, so maybe that'll help with things being a bit fresher. Descriptions of material doesn't do me a whole lot of good anyway in terms of expectations and all.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Tim Wallach on August 17, 2017, 07:52:56 AM
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This album doesn't sound like it could be better than SOI from reading what's been happening

I'll probably wait until I hear the actual songs before determining that. But that's just me.

I've kept myself from hearing any clips or live material yet though, so maybe that'll help with things being a bit fresher. Descriptions of material doesn't do me a whole lot of good anyway in terms of expectations and all.

Good plan. I know in these forums anything geared for radio is sacrilege, but I do believe the band felt those types of songs are what they lacked on SOI and No Line. With how successful ATYCLB was, I'm not at all surprised it sounds like they wanted to go back that way. I like subtle and dark too, but there are worse things than catchy I guess.

I just hope they subvert Bono's vocals a bit at times. If you listen to AB and JT and Rattle and some of the great era, so many of the vocal performances were understated and brilliant. Lately, they're so wide-eyed and potent in the mix that it doesn't leave much room for the songs to breathe.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: U2 Fan of the 90s on August 17, 2017, 07:53:41 AM
Well... The descriptions sound horrendous.  A song about recovering from a bike accident? Seems weak... What happened to that track Adam put on Instagram with Jackknife Lee at the mixing desk?  That seemed to have something to it.  Fine, the single will be light... But an album full off fluff like "I'll go crazy" will be total crap.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on August 17, 2017, 08:22:42 AM
Wait and see really is the best idea...

I still recall Elevation being compared to the brilliant Cannonball in Q Magazine.

It was like being promised  fine vintage Champagne and getting a glass of flat Pomagne.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on August 17, 2017, 08:23:16 AM
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Wait and see really is the best idea...

I still recall Elevation being compared to the brilliant Cannonball in Q Magazine.

It was like being promised  fine vintage Champagne and getting a glass of flat Pomagne.
PAH!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: tommyboy6913 on August 17, 2017, 09:31:35 AM
I'm not saying that SOE will go down as one of the best U2 albums, but it could be one of their better albums to date. Based on the 2 songs on SOE.."You're the Best Thing" and "The Little Things", I'm excited about the new album. I love these 2 new songs. I don't want an album full of POP, radio-friendly hits but one or two main-stream hits wouldn't be a bad thing. That's what makes U2 great...They got something for everyone.
Those who complain about SOI about being too "light" or not "ballasy enough" need to go back and listen to Sleep Like a Baby Tonight, Raised by Wolves or The Troubles. Those songs had a sinister feel to them and were anything but Radio-friendly.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on August 17, 2017, 09:45:08 AM
And it is those 3 songs you mention that provide many of us with hope that u2 can still deliver!

Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: emuhunter on August 17, 2017, 09:45:50 AM
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Well... The descriptions sound horrendous.  A song about recovering from a bike accident? Seems weak... What happened to that track Adam put on Instagram with Jackknife Lee at the mixing desk?  That seemed to have something to it.  Fine, the single will be light... But an album full off fluff like "I'll go crazy" will be total crap.

Definitely not looking to be disrespectful and not sure of your feelings on 2000s U2, but it seems like a lot of people love "Kite" and when distilled down to that kind of essence it's a song about trying to fly a kite... named "Kite" so definitely not subtle haha.

I'm hoping this will be a case like that :)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on August 17, 2017, 09:49:52 AM
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Wait and see really is the best idea...

I still recall Elevation being compared to the brilliant Cannonball in Q Magazine.

It was like being promised  fine vintage Champagne and getting a glass of flat Pomagne.
PAH!

pAh!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: david on August 17, 2017, 10:38:46 AM
So ATYCLB was a personal album, Bomb was an even more personal album, SOE was a hugely personal album and this is going to be even more personal than that was. Im really starting to think that 'personal' basically means 'we havent a f****** clue what to write songs about anymore'.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: ShankAsu on August 17, 2017, 11:08:11 AM
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i'll never read the Sun again after they took away my Rosie Jones

THEY WHAT?!
page 3 girl...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Rasmus on August 17, 2017, 12:09:38 PM
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So ATYCLB was a personal album, Bomb was an even more personal album, SOE was a hugely personal album and this is going to be even more personal than that was. Im really starting to think that 'personal' basically means 'we havent a f****** clue what to write songs about anymore'.

Funny thing is, Bono has probably never been more personal than on the Pop album. Personal is best when it is complemented with something more.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: ShankAsu on August 17, 2017, 01:43:28 PM
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So ATYCLB was a personal album, Bomb was an even more personal album, SOE was a hugely personal album and this is going to be even more personal than that was. Im really starting to think that 'personal' basically means 'we havent a f****** clue what to write songs about anymore'.

Funny thing is, Bono has probably never been more personal than on the Pop album. Personal is best when it is complemented with something more.
Pop is a personal album?  I obviously need to go back to listen to it again- its been a few years.  Not sure any album could be more personal that SOI.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: SDD3000 on August 17, 2017, 01:55:10 PM
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So ATYCLB was a personal album, Bomb was an even more personal album, SOE was a hugely personal album and this is going to be even more personal than that was. Im really starting to think that 'personal' basically means 'we havent a f****** clue what to write songs about anymore'.

Funny thing is, Bono has probably never been more personal than on the Pop album. Personal is best when it is complemented with something more.
Pop is a personal album?  I obviously need to go back to listen to it again- its been a few years.  Not sure any album could be more personal that SOI.

Mofo. Nuff said.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: ShankAsu on August 17, 2017, 02:31:37 PM
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So ATYCLB was a personal album, Bomb was an even more personal album, SOE was a hugely personal album and this is going to be even more personal than that was. Im really starting to think that 'personal' basically means 'we havent a f****** clue what to write songs about anymore'.

Funny thing is, Bono has probably never been more personal than on the Pop album. Personal is best when it is complemented with something more.
Pop is a personal album?  I obviously need to go back to listen to it again- its been a few years.  Not sure any album could be more personal that SOI.

Mofo. Nuff said.

Holy dunc spacejunk comin' in for the splash
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 17, 2017, 02:32:45 PM
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So ATYCLB was a personal album, Bomb was an even more personal album, SOE was a hugely personal album and this is going to be even more personal than that was. Im really starting to think that 'personal' basically means 'we havent a f****** clue what to write songs about anymore'.

Funny thing is, Bono has probably never been more personal than on the Pop album. Personal is best when it is complemented with something more.
Pop is a personal album?  I obviously need to go back to listen to it again- its been a few years.  Not sure any album could be more personal that SOI.

Mofo. Nuff said.
Do you feel loved... gone.. they seemed very personal to me.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on August 17, 2017, 02:39:50 PM
I think ALL of their albums are personal...that's one of many reasons that I stick with these guys. They don't just sing about sex and drugs and rock and roll, like a lot of bands. They sing about life, their lives and the lives of others.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: The Exile on August 17, 2017, 02:46:31 PM
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I think ALL of their albums are personal...that's one of many reasons that I stick with these guys. They don't just sing about sex and drugs and rock and roll, like a lot of bands. They sing about life, their lives and the lives of others.

You could argue that NLOTH wasn't personal, but instead was the very opposite by design.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 17, 2017, 02:54:38 PM
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I think ALL of their albums are personal...that's one of many reasons that I stick with these guys. They don't just sing about sex and drugs and rock and roll, like a lot of bands. They sing about life, their lives and the lives of others.

Part and parcel of being an artist. Even singing about sex drugs and rock n roll can be personal if you're lucky enough to be consumed by those things 😋 I guess what they mean is deep.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on August 17, 2017, 03:23:29 PM
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I think ALL of their albums are personal...that's one of many reasons that I stick with these guys. They don't just sing about sex and drugs and rock and roll, like a lot of bands. They sing about life, their lives and the lives of others.

You could argue that NLOTH wasn't personal, but instead was the very opposite by design.
I try not to argue anything    :)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: codeguy on August 17, 2017, 03:42:30 PM
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i'll never read the Sun again after they took away my Rosie Jones

THEY WHAT?!
page 3 girl...
Well, playboy brought back nudes, maybe the Sun will follow suit :-P

Seriously though, if you get your news next to bare breasts, you were not asking for reliable journalism anyway....
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on August 17, 2017, 06:21:32 PM
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So ATYCLB was a personal album, Bomb was an even more personal album, SOE was a hugely personal album and this is going to be even more personal than that was. Im really starting to think that 'personal' basically means 'we havent a f****** clue what to write songs about anymore'.

Funny thing is, Bono has probably never been more personal than on the Pop album. Personal is best when it is complemented with something more.
Pop is a personal album?  I obviously need to go back to listen to it again- its been a few years.  Not sure any album could be more personal that SOI.

Mofo. Nuff said.

Holy dunc spacejunk comin' in for the splash

mother am i still your son? yknow ive waited so long to hear you say so. soothe me mother....

it's actual very personal.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on August 17, 2017, 11:46:02 PM
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So ATYCLB was a personal album, Bomb was an even more personal album, SOE was a hugely personal album and this is going to be even more personal than that was. Im really starting to think that 'personal' basically means 'we havent a f****** clue what to write songs about anymore'.

Funny thing is, Bono has probably never been more personal than on the Pop album. Personal is best when it is complemented with something more.
Pop is a personal album?  I obviously need to go back to listen to it again- its been a few years.  Not sure any album could be more personal that SOI.

Mofo. Nuff said.

Holy dunc spacejunk comin' in for the splash

mother am i still your son? yknow ive waited so long to hear you say so. soothe me mother....

it's actual very personal.

Don't forget about the very contemplative Wake Up Dead Man... Bono hasn't written any lyrics as personal since.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on August 18, 2017, 12:56:04 AM
I find stuck, kite and sometimes to be just as personal


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: DGordon1 on August 18, 2017, 04:11:00 AM
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I find stuck, kite and sometimes to be just as personal


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Yeah, much of what they've written since has been just as personal, just in a different packaging. Bono was a more conflicted character in the 90's (or his persona conveyed that anyway), and generally speaking he's expressed himself in a more straightforward way since. There are exceptions of course, like Cedars and The Troubles.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: imaginary friend on August 18, 2017, 05:12:29 AM
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U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?

Didn't you hear?  We were PROMISED one!  So it seems we should all be terribly, awfully, super upset if we don't get it.  And the band will be super-ashamed of themselves and will be a laughing stock because they promised us one and didn't give it to us.  You know.  That's how things work.

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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on August 18, 2017, 05:30:44 AM
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U2 average an album roughly every 4 years over the last 25 years.

We haven't had 3 years since the last one yet - what's the panic?

Didn't you hear?  We were PROMISED one!  So it seems we should all be terribly, awfully, super upset if we don't get it.  And the band will be super-ashamed of themselves and will be a laughing stock because they promised us one and didn't give it to us.  You know.  That's how things work.

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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: trevgreg on August 18, 2017, 07:16:17 AM
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Wait and see really is the best idea...

I still recall Elevation being compared to the brilliant Cannonball in Q Magazine.

It was like being promised  fine vintage Champagne and getting a glass of flat Pomagne.

Now that I listen to it, I can see where whoever it was came up with that comparison. The opening keyboard/guitar(?) riff to Elevation before Edge's main guitar riff kicks in seemed to remind them of the main slide guitar riff used in Cannonball.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on August 18, 2017, 07:33:54 AM
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Wait and see really is the best idea...

I still recall Elevation being compared to the brilliant Cannonball in Q Magazine.

It was like being promised  fine vintage Champagne and getting a glass of flat Pomagne.

Now that I listen to it, I can see where whoever it was came up with that comparison. The opening keyboard/guitar(?) riff to Elevation before Edge's main guitar riff kicks in seemed to remind them of the main slide guitar riff used in Cannonball.

Hmmmm...the two songs are about a million miles away in terms of quality though - i'd like to think even the most passionate u2 fan would concede that point!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: miryclay on August 18, 2017, 07:46:31 AM
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Wait and see really is the best idea...

I still recall Elevation being compared to the brilliant Cannonball in Q Magazine.

It was like being promised  fine vintage Champagne and getting a glass of flat Pomagne.

Now that I listen to it, I can see where whoever it was came up with that comparison. The opening keyboard/guitar(?) riff to Elevation before Edge's main guitar riff kicks in seemed to remind them of the main slide guitar riff used in Cannonball.

Hmmmm...the two songs are about a million miles away in terms of quality though - i'd like to think even the most passionate u2 fan would concede that point!

Ill have to listen to Elevation and Cannonball during this week's eclipse to determine which is better.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: zoo adam on August 18, 2017, 07:58:11 AM
There are 3 online news articles online, from '1 day ago'. All saying the release is 1st December 2017.

They can't all be wrong, can they ?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on August 18, 2017, 08:00:50 AM
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There are 3 online news articles online, from '1 day ago'. All saying the release is 1st December 2017.

They can't all be wrong, can they ?

I just hope it delivers.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: miryclay on August 18, 2017, 08:02:14 AM
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There are 3 online news articles online, from '1 day ago'. All saying the release is 1st December 2017.

They can't all be wrong, can they ?

Well Google News search is a helluva drug
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: zoo adam on August 18, 2017, 08:10:05 AM
I'm sure no one doubts 'NME,' 'The Diffuser' & 'The Irish Sun'.

Single release only 21 days away.  Apparently.
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Post by: an tha on August 18, 2017, 08:17:03 AM
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Wait and see really is the best idea...

I still recall Elevation being compared to the brilliant Cannonball in Q Magazine.

It was like being promised  fine vintage Champagne and getting a glass of flat Pomagne.

Now that I listen to it, I can see where whoever it was came up with that comparison. The opening keyboard/guitar(?) riff to Elevation before Edge's main guitar riff kicks in seemed to remind them of the main slide guitar riff used in Cannonball.

Hmmmm...the two songs are about a million miles away in terms of quality though - i'd like to think even the most passionate u2 fan would concede that point!

Ill have to listen to Elevation and Cannonball during this week's eclipse to determine which is better.

 ;)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on August 18, 2017, 08:24:14 AM
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I'm sure no one doubts 'NME,' 'The Diffuser' & 'The Irish Sun'.

Single release only 21 days away.  Apparently.

and Hot Press.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Saint1322 on August 18, 2017, 08:39:13 AM
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Wait and see really is the best idea...

I still recall Elevation being compared to the brilliant Cannonball in Q Magazine.

It was like being promised  fine vintage Champagne and getting a glass of flat Pomagne.

Now that I listen to it, I can see where whoever it was came up with that comparison. The opening keyboard/guitar(?) riff to Elevation before Edge's main guitar riff kicks in seemed to remind them of the main slide guitar riff used in Cannonball.

Hmmmm...the two songs are about a million miles away in terms of quality though - i'd like to think even the most passionate u2 fan would concede that point!

I would. I hear the similarity, but Cannonball is a 90s classic, and Elevation is barely worthy of mention in U2's catalog. Not an awful song, but they have done dozens of songs that are better, and the Breeders' song, again, is 90s gold.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Saint1322 on August 18, 2017, 08:40:17 AM
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I find stuck, kite and sometimes to be just as personal


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I agree. I don't listen to Sometimes. My father died when I was 18 after a long illness, and I find that song upsetting.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Argo on August 18, 2017, 08:54:11 AM
Kite and Sometimes are incredibly personal. I find Iris to be even more personal especially then with the old video footage when they did it live.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: mattryan94 on August 18, 2017, 09:12:25 AM
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Kite and Sometimes are incredibly personal. I find Iris to be even more personal especially then with the old video footage when they did it live.

The ending to Iris "Iris wakes to my nightmares..." makes me tear up every time, really powerful and personal lyricism there.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Tim Wallach on August 18, 2017, 11:15:34 AM
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Kite and Sometimes are incredibly personal. I find Iris to be even more personal especially then with the old video footage when they did it live.

The ending to Iris "Iris wakes to my nightmares..." makes me tear up every time, really powerful and personal lyricism there.

"Iris says that I will be the death of her. It was not me." Hard to get more personal than that. I found the entirety of SOI put me in 1970s Dublin.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: mattryan94 on August 18, 2017, 01:08:25 PM
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Kite and Sometimes are incredibly personal. I find Iris to be even more personal especially then with the old video footage when they did it live.

The ending to Iris "Iris wakes to my nightmares..." makes me tear up every time, really powerful and personal lyricism there.

"Iris says that I will be the death of her. It was not me." Hard to get more personal than that. I found the entirety of SOI put me in 1970s Dublin.

For me I love that album so much because I was going through the very same themes and experiences that the music revolves around. I was barely 20 when SOI came out, so it's a major part of my life's timeline!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 18, 2017, 01:47:01 PM
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Kite and Sometimes are incredibly personal. I find Iris to be even more personal especially then with the old video footage when they did it live.

The ending to Iris "Iris wakes to my nightmares..." makes me tear up every time, really powerful and personal lyricism there.

"Iris says that I will be the death of her. It was not me." Hard to get more personal than that. I found the entirety of SOI put me in 1970s Dublin.

For me I love that album so much because I was going through the very same themes and experiences that the music revolves around. I was barely 20 when SOI came out, so it's a major part of my life's timeline!

Were you a fan before soi? Just interested because I often think age and timing are key to connecting with an album, and there's an element of rose tinted glasses at play. How does soi compare to AB or JT ?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Tim Wallach on August 18, 2017, 02:14:41 PM
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Kite and Sometimes are incredibly personal. I find Iris to be even more personal especially then with the old video footage when they did it live.

The ending to Iris "Iris wakes to my nightmares..." makes me tear up every time, really powerful and personal lyricism there.

"Iris says that I will be the death of her. It was not me." Hard to get more personal than that. I found the entirety of SOI put me in 1970s Dublin.

For me I love that album so much because I was going through the very same themes and experiences that the music revolves around. I was barely 20 when SOI came out, so it's a major part of my life's timeline!

My little theory is that we are all most greatly impacted by albums that came out when we were between the ages of 16 and 22. So each U2 fan probably has a slightly different album for that reason, but it reflects how strong most of their albums really are.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: The Exile on August 18, 2017, 02:15:46 PM
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Kite and Sometimes are incredibly personal. I find Iris to be even more personal especially then with the old video footage when they did it live.

The ending to Iris "Iris wakes to my nightmares..." makes me tear up every time, really powerful and personal lyricism there.

"Iris says that I will be the death of her. It was not me." Hard to get more personal than that. I found the entirety of SOI put me in 1970s Dublin.

For me I love that album so much because I was going through the very same themes and experiences that the music revolves around. I was barely 20 when SOI came out, so it's a major part of my life's timeline!

Were you a fan before soi? Just interested because I often think age and timing are key to connecting with an album, and there's an element of rose tinted glasses at play. How does soi compare to AB or JT ?

It's all subjective, of course. If someone likes an album and sees the tour, he remembers the audience having a great time dancing and singing along, whereas if he didn't like the album and saw the tour, the audience all left after the 3rd song.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on August 18, 2017, 04:58:03 PM
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Kite and Sometimes are incredibly personal. I find Iris to be even more personal especially then with the old video footage when they did it live.

The ending to Iris "Iris wakes to my nightmares..." makes me tear up every time, really powerful and personal lyricism there.

"Iris says that I will be the death of her. It was not me." Hard to get more personal than that. I found the entirety of SOI put me in 1970s Dublin.

For me I love that album so much because I was going through the very same themes and experiences that the music revolves around. I was barely 20 when SOI came out, so it's a major part of my life's timeline!

Were you a fan before soi? Just interested because I often think age and timing are key to connecting with an album, and there's an element of rose tinted glasses at play. How does soi compare to AB or JT ?

this is true. ATYCLB was the first u2 album i got day of release and i DEF held that album in very high regard from release till a few years after. i still say Elevation was an incredible tour and def the best U2 shows ill personally see but yea the album itself dropped off my radar entirely years ago.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: mattryan94 on August 18, 2017, 05:32:46 PM
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Kite and Sometimes are incredibly personal. I find Iris to be even more personal especially then with the old video footage when they did it live.

The ending to Iris "Iris wakes to my nightmares..." makes me tear up every time, really powerful and personal lyricism there.

"Iris says that I will be the death of her. It was not me." Hard to get more personal than that. I found the entirety of SOI put me in 1970s Dublin.

For me I love that album so much because I was going through the very same themes and experiences that the music revolves around. I was barely 20 when SOI came out, so it's a major part of my life's timeline!

Were you a fan before soi? Just interested because I often think age and timing are key to connecting with an album, and there's an element of rose tinted glasses at play. How does soi compare to AB or JT ?
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Bigtime fan my whole life. Both my parents were fans and where literally playing me their songs in the womb.  If I'm ranking "greatest" JT and AB are ahead. But in terms of my "favorite" U2 albums my list goes TUF, SOI , WAR, JT, AB. All in the "amazing" category for me.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: tommyboy6913 on August 18, 2017, 09:21:48 PM
My Holy Trinity of U2 albums in order: Achtung Baby, All That You Can Leave Behind and Joshua Tree. I really like Boy, POP, War and SOI. October and NLOTH are my least favorite. 
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Pouakai on August 19, 2017, 12:26:03 AM
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Kite and Sometimes are incredibly personal. I find Iris to be even more personal especially then with the old video footage when they did it live.

The ending to Iris "Iris wakes to my nightmares..." makes me tear up every time, really powerful and personal lyricism there.

"Iris says that I will be the death of her. It was not me." Hard to get more personal than that. I found the entirety of SOI put me in 1970s Dublin.

For me I love that album so much because I was going through the very same themes and experiences that the music revolves around. I was barely 20 when SOI came out, so it's a major part of my life's timeline!

My little theory is that we are all most greatly impacted by albums that came out when we were between the ages of 16 and 22. So each U2 fan probably has a slightly different album for that reason, but it reflects how strong most of their albums really are.

I mean for me that's literally just SOI and it ranks below a fair few other albums for me, but I suppose I'm going to be a bit more of an outlier
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Stateless on August 19, 2017, 10:21:57 AM
I am 50 now and been a fan almost from the beginning...first concert was TUF Tour and since then been to every tour with the exception of the new JT Tour (moved from California to Idaho and just could not manage it).  Anyways, for me each album has meant something different.  I am typically not a critical person and take the albums at face value and really don't compare them to each other or to other bands I listen too.  Each has had an emotional wrench that impacts me or was impacting me at that particular time.  For me the unique thing about U2 songs is that they resonate with me so much that even a song like One Tree Hill which was written for a friends of theirs in 1986-1987 had an impact on me when I first listened to it when it came out, but then again 20 years later when I was going through a loss the song resonated even more than ever.

U2 to me is such a unique band and there is something spiritual (to me) about the songs that resonate with me more than any other band.  Even silly songs have something that appeals to me.  It is pretty amazing that after 40 years of listening to them that I have not been bored or felt things have been played out...it just comes down to a lot of songs connecting with me etc.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on August 19, 2017, 10:49:54 AM
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I am 50 now and been a fan almost from the beginning...first concert was TUF Tour and since then been to every tour with the exception of the new JT Tour (moved from California to Idaho and just could not manage it).  Anyways, for me each album has meant something different.  I am typically not a critical person and take the albums at face value and really don't compare them to each other or to other bands I listen too.  Each has had an emotional wrench that impacts me or was impacting me at that particular time.  For me the unique thing about U2 songs is that they resonate with me so much that even a song like One Tree Hill which was written for a friends of theirs in 1986-1987 had an impact on me when I first listened to it when it came out, but then again 20 years later when I was going through a loss the song resonated even more than ever.

U2 to me is such a unique band and there is something spiritual (to me) about the songs that resonate with me more than any other band.  Even silly songs have something that appeals to me.  It is pretty amazing that after 40 years of listening to them that I have not been bored or felt things have been played out...it just comes down to a lot of songs connecting with me etc.
Very well said...and I feel the exact same way. Never bored. Even enjoy the silly songs. Very greatly touched by many, many songs, in a personal way.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: KenKaniff on August 19, 2017, 01:40:24 PM
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My Holy Trinity of U2 albums in order: Achtung Baby, All That You Can Leave Behind and Joshua Tree. I really like Boy, POP, War and SOI. October and NLOTH are my least favorite.

Agree with you on all of the above.
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Post by: Jono on August 19, 2017, 02:17:58 PM
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I am 50 now and been a fan almost from the beginning...first concert was TUF Tour and since then been to every tour with the exception of the new JT Tour (moved from California to Idaho and just could not manage it).  Anyways, for me each album has meant something different.  I am typically not a critical person and take the albums at face value and really don't compare them to each other or to other bands I listen too.  Each has had an emotional wrench that impacts me or was impacting me at that particular time.  For me the unique thing about U2 songs is that they resonate with me so much that even a song like One Tree Hill which was written for a friends of theirs in 1986-1987 had an impact on me when I first listened to it when it came out, but then again 20 years later when I was going through a loss the song resonated even more than ever.

U2 to me is such a unique band and there is something spiritual (to me) about the songs that resonate with me more than any other band.  Even silly songs have something that appeals to me.  It is pretty amazing that after 40 years of listening to them that I have not been bored or felt things have been played out...it just comes down to a lot of songs connecting with me etc.
Very well said...and I feel the exact same way. Never bored. Even enjoy the silly songs. Very greatly touched by many, many songs, in a personal way.
Agree and agree...I remember Bono speaking about a fan telling him that "U2 music is the soundtrack to their life." Exactly. Many songs many connections.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: mc on August 19, 2017, 02:25:44 PM
Yes each album takes me to a place on my life timeline. Im 45 and there are a few songs on each slbum that are personal for me
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Coop15879 on August 19, 2017, 04:50:46 PM
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I am 50 now and been a fan almost from the beginning...first concert was TUF Tour and since then been to every tour with the exception of the new JT Tour (moved from California to Idaho and just could not manage it).  Anyways, for me each album has meant something different.  I am typically not a critical person and take the albums at face value and really don't compare them to each other or to other bands I listen too.  Each has had an emotional wrench that impacts me or was impacting me at that particular time.  For me the unique thing about U2 songs is that they resonate with me so much that even a song like One Tree Hill which was written for a friends of theirs in 1986-1987 had an impact on me when I first listened to it when it came out, but then again 20 years later when I was going through a loss the song resonated even more than ever.

U2 to me is such a unique band and there is something spiritual (to me) about the songs that resonate with me more than any other band.  Even silly songs have something that appeals to me.  It is pretty amazing that after 40 years of listening to them that I have not been bored or felt things have been played out...it just comes down to a lot of songs connecting with me etc.


Great post.  Sums up my sentiment exactly.  Been a fan since Boy. 
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Jswallow on August 20, 2017, 02:18:17 AM
Same for me I'm nearly 50, been into this band since I was 13 they've always been the soundtrack to my life. ..great post

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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Aprilshack on August 20, 2017, 12:20:37 PM
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Yes each album takes me to a place on my life timeline. Im 45 and there are a few songs on each slbum that are personal for me

+1.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 21, 2017, 04:38:36 PM
Did anyone see the tweets? U2 is sending out letters to people's home with a page from Blake Williams SOI and SOE with a cutout of the the children on the next album cover.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AmieeStubbsPix/status/899743399351373825/photo/1

They're promoting "blackout" now?

Someone pointed out today is also the day of the eclipse
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Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on August 21, 2017, 04:44:49 PM
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Did anyone see the tweets? U2 is sending out letters to people's home with a page from Blake Williams SOI and SOE with a cutout of the the children on the next album cover.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AmieeStubbsPix/status/899743399351373825/photo/1

They're promoting "blackout" now?

It's starting to become more certain that SOE is coming before the year ends... have U2 ever gone so far in teasing a new album and not delivered?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: ultravioletlight on August 21, 2017, 04:47:39 PM
Guys, the album is coming. Too much noise for it to not be true.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 21, 2017, 04:48:54 PM
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Did anyone see the tweets? U2 is sending out letters to people's home with a page from Blake Williams SOI and SOE with a cutout of the the children on the next album cover.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AmieeStubbsPix/status/899743399351373825/photo/1

They're promoting "blackout" now?

It's starting to become more certain that SOE is coming before the year ends... have U2 ever gone so far in teasing a new album and not delivered?

I believe it's a real album and will release. It may even happen at the next Apple conference.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: an tha on August 21, 2017, 05:07:37 PM
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Did anyone see the tweets? U2 is sending out letters to people's home with a page from Blake Williams SOI and SOE with a cutout of the the children on the next album cover.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AmieeStubbsPix/status/899743399351373825/photo/1

They're promoting "blackout" now?

It's starting to become more certain that SOE is coming before the year ends... have U2 ever gone so far in teasing a new album and not delivered?

I believe it's a real album and will release. It may even happen at the next Apple conference.

Yes.

Oh hell no.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: InGodsCountry on August 21, 2017, 05:20:38 PM
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Did anyone see the tweets? U2 is sending out letters to people's home with a page from Blake Williams SOI and SOE with a cutout of the the children on the next album cover.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AmieeStubbsPix/status/899743399351373825/photo/1

They're promoting "blackout" now?

It's starting to become more certain that SOE is coming before the year ends... have U2 ever gone so far in teasing a new album and not delivered?

I believe it's a real album and will release. It may even happen at the next Apple conference.

Maybe this mailer is a sign that U2 is over-correcting from the last album release strategy. Instead of dropping it in everyone's iTunes, anyone who wants the album will have to sign up with Colombia House and receive it by snail mail. On the bright side, it will only be a penny and you'll get eight free CDs.
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Post by: miryclay on August 21, 2017, 05:20:57 PM
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Did anyone see the tweets? U2 is sending out letters to people's home with a page from Blake Williams SOI and SOE with a cutout of the the children on the next album cover.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AmieeStubbsPix/status/899743399351373825/photo/1

They're promoting "blackout" now?

It's starting to become more certain that SOE is coming before the year ends... have U2 ever gone so far in teasing a new album and not delivered?

I believe it's a real album and will release. It may even happen at the next Apple conference.

Yes.

Oh hell no.


Yeah, interested in this letter. The first promo push.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on August 21, 2017, 05:21:36 PM
It's gonna happen!
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Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on August 21, 2017, 05:25:18 PM
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Did anyone see the tweets? U2 is sending out letters to people's home with a page from Blake Williams SOI and SOE with a cutout of the the children on the next album cover.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AmieeStubbsPix/status/899743399351373825/photo/1

They're promoting "blackout" now?

It's starting to become more certain that SOE is coming before the year ends... have U2 ever gone so far in teasing a new album and not delivered?

I believe it's a real album and will release. It may even happen at the next Apple conference.

They'd be completely foolish to release SOE at another one of those Apple shindigs. That's just asking for bad press. If U2 really do care that much about impressing a younger demographic of listeners than they'll do whatever it takes to separate SOE's release from the backlash received from the band's last release.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on August 22, 2017, 12:10:48 AM
What a great idea this is, I'm impressed, I love the lyric too.

http://www.u2songs.com/news/songs_of_experience_promotion_starts


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Sonnyu2 on August 22, 2017, 08:37:42 AM
U2 registered the domain u2songsofexperience.com on 7-20-17. So, definitely another sign they are gearing up for the announcement.
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Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on August 22, 2017, 10:59:18 AM
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U2 registered the domain u2songsofexperience.com on 7-20-17. So, definitely another sign they are gearing up for the announcement.

U2 could have just reserved the domain to ensure they got it before anyone else did, since most fans have already heard the album title by now.
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Post by: monopoly on August 22, 2017, 11:07:12 AM
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U2 registered the domain u2songsofexperience.com on 7-20-17. So, definitely another sign they are gearing up for the announcement.

U2 could have just reserved the domain to ensure they got it before anyone else did, since most fans have already heard the album title by now.

What's the point of a site domain like that anyways?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: eddyjedi on August 22, 2017, 11:10:42 AM
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U2 registered the domain u2songsofexperience.com on 7-20-17. So, definitely another sign they are gearing up for the announcement.

U2 could have just reserved the domain to ensure they got it before anyone else did, since most fans have already heard the album title by now.

What's the point of a site domain like that anyways?

Intellectual property I guess.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Hawkmoon2e on August 23, 2017, 11:33:11 AM
Well... that was fun. Lots of posts removed here. Please keep this thread about the SOE release, and stop turning it into the adult fiction short story sharing group.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 23, 2017, 12:32:49 PM
The homepage talks about 4 songs from a listening session.

Summer of love is still a a relevant title. Supposedly has lady gaga
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Izzy on August 23, 2017, 02:59:49 PM
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The homepage talks about 4 songs from a listening session.

Summer of love is still a a relevant title. Supposedly has lady gaga

Sounds interesting, especially how he describes he production. Could we seem some eno/lanois tracks?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Zoostation07 on August 23, 2017, 03:02:42 PM
If you listen to the piece the guy who heard the tracks talks about a song (the last one he heard I think - Light??) with a big drum roll / break. Bono was definitely talking about that song a few months back now in some interview - I can't remember which because he said it was one of his favourite 'Larry parts' - I can't remember whether or not he mentioned what that song was then called (as it could have changed). Anyway it looks like whatever it is is going to make the cut and has Larry hitting stuff in the middle!

Even after the mysterious letters 'Best Thing' will be the first single - that's my guess anyway - and it's probably going to be fairly poppy and wont differ too much from the Kygo remix (minus the 4/4 house beat) - it's going to have the same melody and chorus and that verse is U2 all over. The Nile Rodgers style guitar part is probably a bit more front and centre too.

But '(The) Blackout' is I'd imagine a teaser 'single' to be released through U2.com fairly shortly (next few days??) - or premiered by them and only members have access (it'll be on Youtube in seconds!). It's probably rockier (and potentially better) than Best Thing which is a shot at a chart 'hit' and will be the first 'official' single released for radio and to purchase - on or around 8 September (try and shift the remaining tix for the JT shows?) - Blackout won't be officially 'released' per se but I'm sure will be available through the usual streaming sites or will be a 'free' download if you pre-order the album.

Wait and see I suppose - but I'd imagine the above is the kind of thing we can expect. I think the whole release and promo will be fairly conventional after the SOI 'experience' and with the tour taking up much of Sept and Oct. there isn't going to be any room for the classic TV slots they might usually do - November??). Perhaps the only 'headline' might well be a portion of all all profits of the digital version go to RED (for arguments sake the standard D/L is £10 etc.) if the release date is World Aids Day (1 Dec) - which in all likely hood it is.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: InGodsCountry on August 23, 2017, 03:03:47 PM
The "American Pop/American Rock" track might be the "American Soul" track Bono mentioned in the Zane Lowe interview. However, Bono said that was the song that was sampled in Kendrick Lamar's "XXX." That sample does not seem like it would lead to a song with distorted guitars. Who knows though.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: wraitii on August 23, 2017, 03:13:01 PM
I don't believe it was sampled, rather it was re-sung by Bono.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Vox on August 23, 2017, 03:18:02 PM
I'm allowing myself to get really excited now.  VCF [Vox (New Album) Certainty Factor] today:  85%.  https://forum.atu2.com/index.php/topic,31908.msg1729072.html#msg1729072
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on August 23, 2017, 03:21:26 PM
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I'm allowing myself to get really excited now.  VCF [Vox (New Album) Certainty Factor] today:  85%.  https://forum.atu2.com/index.php/topic,31908.msg1729072.html#msg1729072
YES...it is exciting!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Pouakai on August 23, 2017, 03:45:23 PM
Sorry if it's been mentioned already, but a music website in Germany seems to have listed it for preorder with a Dec 1 release

https://www.cede.de/en/music/?view=detail&branch_sub=0&id=1437597&branch=1

EDIT: Just saw it was already on the homepage, my bad

Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Passenger on August 23, 2017, 04:52:50 PM
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If you listen to the piece the guy who heard the tracks talks about a song (the last one he heard I think - Light??) with a big drum roll / break. Bono was definitely talking about that song a few months back now in some interview - I can't remember which because he said it was one of his favourite 'Larry parts' - I can't remember whether or not he mentioned what that song was then called (as it could have changed). Anyway it looks like whatever it is is going to make the cut and has Larry hitting stuff in the middle!

yes you're right, I think. This was a song called Civilisation...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: mephmontreal on August 23, 2017, 07:06:23 PM
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If you listen to the piece the guy who heard the tracks talks about a song (the last one he heard I think - Light??) with a big drum roll / break. Bono was definitely talking about that song a few months back now in some interview - I can't remember which because he said it was one of his favourite 'Larry parts' - I can't remember whether or not he mentioned what that song was then called (as it could have changed). Anyway it looks like whatever it is is going to make the cut and has Larry hitting stuff in the middle!

I remember that as well, it was from the You Talking U2 To Me podcast where the guys were played a few songs by Bono.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: tigerfan41 on August 23, 2017, 09:59:52 PM
Can't wait to see U2 prove me right when they release the new album in December 2017! There was a lot of doubt the last several months that it'd even happen here on these forums...it'll be nice to hear the new stuff.

Also, this letter marketing campaign? Brilliant.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: lorijane on August 23, 2017, 10:20:35 PM
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Well... that was fun. Lots of posts removed here. Please keep this thread about the SOE release, and stop turning it into the adult fiction short story sharing group.

Wow. Guess I need to visit the forum more often! I'm not even sure I know what this means, or that I want to! Thanks, mods, for all that you do.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on August 23, 2017, 10:26:21 PM
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Well... that was fun. Lots of posts removed here. Please keep this thread about the SOE release, and stop turning it into the adult fiction short story sharing group.

Wow. Guess I need to visit the forum more often! I'm not even sure I know what this means, or that I want to! Thanks, mods, for all that you do.

You missed so many great puns...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: lorijane on August 23, 2017, 10:32:31 PM
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Well... that was fun. Lots of posts removed here. Please keep this thread about the SOE release, and stop turning it into the adult fiction short story sharing group.

Wow. Guess I need to visit the forum more often! I'm not even sure I know what this means, or that I want to! Thanks, mods, for all that you do.

You missed so many great puns...

They probably would've whooshed right over my head.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: tommyboy6913 on August 23, 2017, 10:49:27 PM
There were a lot of naysayers on this forum that assumed that U2 would delay their album again. I expect the album to be released on Dec. 1st of 2017. I plan on taking that Friday off from work so I can soak up the new album.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 24, 2017, 12:24:03 AM
Is it likely we'll get a full track listing if they announce the album?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on August 24, 2017, 12:51:11 AM
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Is it likely we'll get a full track listing if they announce the album?
album announcements usually come after the lead single is released. then it will be title/release date/cover art/tracklisting
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: ShankAsu on August 24, 2017, 09:51:27 AM
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Is it likely we'll get a full track listing if they announce the album?
album announcements usually come after the lead single is released. then it will be title/release date/cover art/tracklisting
have u2 actually released a single prior to the last few album releases?  I remember Boots came out before No Line was released, but i seem to recall S.O.I. just showing up unexpectedly before Miracle was a single.
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Is it likely we'll get a full track listing if they announce the album?
album announcements usually come after the lead single is released. then it will be title/release date/cover art/tracklisting
have u2 actually released a single prior to the last few album releases?  I remember Boots came out before No Line was released, but i seem to recall S.O.I. just showing up unexpectedly before Miracle was a single.

Joey Ramone was released under a week after SOI, small promo release. I've never ever seen it available though
cover art here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracle_(Of_Joey_Ramone)#/media/File:U2_The_Miracle.jpg

Boots was released in Jan, NLOTH in Feb.
Title: Re: SOE update
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Is it likely we'll get a full track listing if they announce the album?
album announcements usually come after the lead single is released. then it will be title/release date/cover art/tracklisting
have u2 actually released a single prior to the last few album releases?  I remember Boots came out before No Line was released, but i seem to recall S.O.I. just showing up unexpectedly before Miracle was a single.

Joey Ramone was released under a week after SOI, small promo release. I've never ever seen it available though
cover art here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracle_(Of_Joey_Ramone)#/media/File:U2_The_Miracle.jpg

Boots was released in Jan, NLOTH in Feb.

Of course, SOI was also dropped as a surprise album.  (Part of the surprise was that there had been no single leading up to it.)  Unless they were to do another surprise release, which it seems they won't, every other album was preceded by a lead single, so I'd bet on that.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 24, 2017, 12:22:57 PM
Does releasing on the 8th have any significant meaning?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: InGodsCountry on August 24, 2017, 12:41:11 PM
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Does releasing on the 8th have any significant meaning?

Yes, that it's not September 12th when Apple will supposedly announce the new iPhone.
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have u2 actually released a single prior to the last few album releases?  I remember Boots came out before No Line was released, but i seem to recall S.O.I. just showing up unexpectedly before Miracle was a single.

yes. BD and Vertigo were out before the albums release. SOI didn't have a pre-album single release but they won't repeat that again.
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Post by: MPare1966 on August 24, 2017, 01:31:37 PM
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Does releasing on the 8th have any significant meaning?

Yes, that it's not September 12th when Apple will supposedly announce the new iPhone.

^^^^^^
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 24, 2017, 09:40:15 PM
The very last video of Best Thing on youtube is now gone. It was just there last week...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Argo on August 25, 2017, 02:22:02 AM
You do realize that is what they want you to believe but this time around there will be a surprise Apple announcement to go with the U2 album on the 8th.

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Quote from: InGodsCountry on August 24, 2017, 12:41:11 PM



Quote from: monopoly on August 24, 2017, 12:22:57 PM

Does releasing on the 8th have any significant meaning?




Yes, that it's not September 12th when Apple will supposedly announce the new iPhone.



^^^^^^
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: joe1320 on August 25, 2017, 10:14:56 AM
On Today FM, Irish radio station Ian Dempsey this morning said he was at play back last week, and asked not to talk about the track names, but said it would be out on December 1st
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Nagrom76 on August 25, 2017, 10:54:45 AM
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On Today FM, Irish radio station Ian Dempsey this morning said he was at play back last week, and asked not to talk about the track names, but said it would be out on December 1st

Did he give any opinion on what he heard?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: joe1320 on August 25, 2017, 11:45:02 AM
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On Today FM, Irish radio station Ian Dempsey this morning said he was at play back last week, and asked not to talk about the track names, but said it would be out on December 1st

Did he give any opinion on what he heard?
He said it was follow on from SOI, a grown album I think is how he put it,
No comment on any one song
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 25, 2017, 03:00:33 PM
Looking forward to it, but sonically expecting a bit of a Hodge podge, with no overall coherent sound.

Summer of love described as layered, or having a soundscape, a very poppy uplifting best thing, traditional u2 by numbers little things, u2 rawk with the fender clip and the Jack knife Lee clip that sounded a bit more interesting with a heavier or grittier guitar sound.

Obviously wait to hear it, but struggling to understand how this is all going to sit together on one album. I guess it will be an album of sections,a little like their previous 2.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 27, 2017, 01:49:32 PM
So um,

I just heard a new mix of "your the best thing about me"...

Not sure if this is the single mix or album, or extra outtake. Less annoying sounds in comparison to the kygo event last year. The song starts off with a synth/piano kind of like ordinary love with bono singing. Then larrys drum and bass kick in and it starts to build up. The bass is really what is making up the song. I think kygo may still be on this mix as the chorus sounded pretty same in comparison to the beach clip from last year. Edge is in the background vocal wise when bono sings the chorus "you're the best the thing about me, the best thing to ever happen a boy, you're the best thing about me, you're that trouble that I enjoy". Edges guitar is a little more prominent, definitely repetitive, same from the kygo dj event.
There's actually a decent amount of little guitar here and there like invisible. Sounds very electric and a little distorted, but nothing crazy.  The Nile Rodgers comparison is pretty accurate.

Overall, I'd say this mix isn't too different but there are a few changes. Can't wait to see if this is the single mix.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on August 27, 2017, 02:03:22 PM
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So um,

I just heard a new mix of "your the best thing about me"...

Not sure if this is the single mix or album, or extra outtake. Less annoying sounds in comparison to the kygo event last year. The song starts off with a synth/piano kind of like ordinary love with bono singing. Then larrys drum and bass kick in and it starts to build up. The bass is really what is making up the song. I think kygo may still be on this mix as the chorus sounded pretty same in comparison to the beach clip from last year. Edge is in the background vocal wise when bono sings the chorus "you're the best the thing about me, the best thing to ever happen a boy, you're the best thing about me, you're that trouble that I enjoy". Edges guitar is a little more prominent, definitely repetitive, same from the kygo dj event.
There's actually a decent amount of little guitar here and there like invisible. Sounds very electric and a little distorted, but nothing crazy.  The Nile Rodgers comparison is pretty accurate.

Overall, I'd say this mix isn't too different but there are a few changes. Can't wait to see if this is the single mix.

Where'd you hear this new mix?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 27, 2017, 02:09:03 PM
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So um,

I just heard a new mix of "your the best thing about me"...

Not sure if this is the single mix or album, or extra outtake. Less annoying sounds in comparison to the kygo event last year. The song starts off with a synth/piano kind of like ordinary love with bono singing. Then larrys drum and bass kick in and it starts to build up. The bass is really what is making up the song. I think kygo may still be on this mix as the chorus sounded pretty same in comparison to the beach clip from last year. Edge is in the background vocal wise when bono sings the chorus "you're the best the thing about me, the best thing to ever happen a boy, you're the best thing about me, you're that trouble that I enjoy". Edges guitar is a little more prominent, definitely repetitive, same from the kygo dj event.
There's actually a decent amount of little guitar here and there like invisible. Sounds very electric and a little distorted, but nothing crazy.  The Nile Rodgers comparison is pretty accurate.

Overall, I'd say this mix isn't too different but there are a few changes. Can't wait to see if this is the single mix.

Where'd you hear this new mix?

Can't say too much ;). I know it seems fishy haha. A guy played it for me through mutual friends. I really can't say anything else. Even they don't know if what i heard is final. Wouldn't say anything about dates other than "very soon".
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Daniel94 on August 27, 2017, 02:56:52 PM
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So um,

I just heard a new mix of "your the best thing about me"...

Not sure if this is the single mix or album, or extra outtake. Less annoying sounds in comparison to the kygo event last year. The song starts off with a synth/piano kind of like ordinary love with bono singing. Then larrys drum and bass kick in and it starts to build up. The bass is really what is making up the song. I think kygo may still be on this mix as the chorus sounded pretty same in comparison to the beach clip from last year. Edge is in the background vocal wise when bono sings the chorus "you're the best the thing about me, the best thing to ever happen a boy, you're the best thing about me, you're that trouble that I enjoy". Edges guitar is a little more prominent, definitely repetitive, same from the kygo dj event.
There's actually a decent amount of little guitar here and there like invisible. Sounds very electric and a little distorted, but nothing crazy.  The Nile Rodgers comparison is pretty accurate.

Overall, I'd say this mix isn't too different but there are a few changes. Can't wait to see if this is the single mix.

Did you like it? Lyrics all the same as we've heard?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 27, 2017, 03:14:46 PM
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So um,

I just heard a new mix of "your the best thing about me"...

Not sure if this is the single mix or album, or extra outtake. Less annoying sounds in comparison to the kygo event last year. The song starts off with a synth/piano kind of like ordinary love with bono singing. Then larrys drum and bass kick in and it starts to build up. The bass is really what is making up the song. I think kygo may still be on this mix as the chorus sounded pretty same in comparison to the beach clip from last year. Edge is in the background vocal wise when bono sings the chorus "you're the best the thing about me, the best thing to ever happen a boy, you're the best thing about me, you're that trouble that I enjoy". Edges guitar is a little more prominent, definitely repetitive, same from the kygo dj event.
There's actually a decent amount of little guitar here and there like invisible. Sounds very electric and a little distorted, but nothing crazy.  The Nile Rodgers comparison is pretty accurate.

Overall, I'd say this mix isn't too different but there are a few changes. Can't wait to see if this is the single mix.

Did you like it? Lyrics all the same as we've heard?

I didn't care for what i heard last year. If you don't like what you heard last year, I'm not sure that will change. It's still "best thing". I thought it sounded better instrument and production wise but I'm more excited about it being u2 album season than this song. This doesn't have as much chaos as the kygo event last year. I thought there were too many beats and drums going. This sounds somewhat rawer but it still has the chorus of the beach clips. That big explosive chorus of "you're the best thing about me.." I didn't hear the lyric "when the world is ours every door smells of fresh paint"
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: JFW on August 27, 2017, 03:21:26 PM
Probably not, but was there still that mixing vocal in the middle?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 27, 2017, 03:24:06 PM
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Probably not, but was there still that mixing vocal in the middle?

What do you mean by mixing vocal? Edge was definitely prominent singing/harmonizing under Bono.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: JFW on August 27, 2017, 03:32:42 PM
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Probably not, but was there still that mixing vocal in the middle?

What do you mean by mixing vocal? Edge was definitely prominent singing/harmonizing under Bono.
Don't know how to explain it. A typical DJ-sound. Just Bono's singing and the lyrics of the chorus being messed up.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Daniel94 on August 27, 2017, 03:40:42 PM
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Probably not, but was there still that mixing vocal in the middle?

What do you mean by mixing vocal? Edge was definitely prominent singing/harmonizing under Bono.

He means the dub part where bono's voice is cut up and remixed into a melody.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 27, 2017, 03:41:31 PM
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Probably not, but was there still that mixing vocal in the middle?

What do you mean by mixing vocal? Edge was definitely prominent singing/harmonizing under Bono.
Don't know how to explain it. A typical DJ-sound. Just Bono's singing and the lyrics of the chorus being messed up.

Oh ok. So like the remix version having Bono saying "oh oh uh oh oh, best thing oh oh oh..." no there wasn't any of that on this mix. But they were singing Best Thing multiple times, especially Edge in the back
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: JFW on August 27, 2017, 03:43:39 PM
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Probably not, but was there still that mixing vocal in the middle?

What do you mean by mixing vocal? Edge was definitely prominent singing/harmonizing under Bono.
Don't know how to explain it. A typical DJ-sound. Just Bono's singing and the lyrics of the chorus being messed up.

Oh ok. So like the remix version having Bono saying "oh oh uh oh oh, best thing oh oh oh..." no there wasn't any of that on this mix.
Bueno  ;).
Maybe I'm going to like the song a bit. :)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on August 27, 2017, 03:51:25 PM
Vocal chops. They're called vocal chops.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: JFW on August 27, 2017, 04:00:43 PM
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Vocal chops. They're called vocal chops.
Thanks!

Maybe they will make the Kygo-mix a b-side along with other mixes. Just like they used to do (Mysterious Ways, Lemon)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: The Edges Cat on August 29, 2017, 03:06:17 AM
About time we returned to four different versions of the CD single, with a dozen remixes on each.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: PowerSurge on August 29, 2017, 01:41:39 PM
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So um,

I just heard a new mix of "your the best thing about me"...

Not sure if this is the single mix or album, or extra outtake. Less annoying sounds in comparison to the kygo event last year. The song starts off with a synth/piano kind of like ordinary love with bono singing. Then larrys drum and bass kick in and it starts to build up. The bass is really what is making up the song. I think kygo may still be on this mix as the chorus sounded pretty same in comparison to the beach clip from last year. Edge is in the background vocal wise when bono sings the chorus "you're the best the thing about me, the best thing to ever happen a boy, you're the best thing about me, you're that trouble that I enjoy". Edges guitar is a little more prominent, definitely repetitive, same from the kygo dj event.
There's actually a decent amount of little guitar here and there like invisible. Sounds very electric and a little distorted, but nothing crazy.  The Nile Rodgers comparison is pretty accurate.

Overall, I'd say this mix isn't too different but there are a few changes. Can't wait to see if this is the single mix.

Wait, what beach clip??? I've heard all of the previous beach clips from years past, but was unaware of any other ones. Where does one get a hold of these clips? Thanks
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Rono on August 29, 2017, 03:07:35 PM
6th of September the best thing is coming 😆
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: ShankAsu on August 29, 2017, 03:09:58 PM
am i the only person to not heard this song yet?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: riffraff on August 29, 2017, 03:14:19 PM
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am i the only person to not heard this song yet?
nope...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Backstreets92 on August 29, 2017, 03:49:37 PM
So I guess U2Valencia wasn't all that wrong after all haha as they said it would be the 29th (and later 30th)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 29, 2017, 05:47:02 PM
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So um,

I just heard a new mix of "your the best thing about me"...

Not sure if this is the single mix or album, or extra outtake. Less annoying sounds in comparison to the kygo event last year. The song starts off with a synth/piano kind of like ordinary love with bono singing. Then larrys drum and bass kick in and it starts to build up. The bass is really what is making up the song. I think kygo may still be on this mix as the chorus sounded pretty same in comparison to the beach clip from last year. Edge is in the background vocal wise when bono sings the chorus "you're the best the thing about me, the best thing to ever happen a boy, you're the best thing about me, you're that trouble that I enjoy". Edges guitar is a little more prominent, definitely repetitive, same from the kygo dj event.
There's actually a decent amount of little guitar here and there like invisible. Sounds very electric and a little distorted, but nothing crazy.  The Nile Rodgers comparison is pretty accurate.

Overall, I'd say this mix isn't too different but there are a few changes. Can't wait to see if this is the single mix.

Wait, what beach clip??? I've heard all of the previous beach clips from years past, but was unaware of any other ones. Where does one get a hold of these clips? Thanks

There were two clips that were the highest quality yet.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: trevgreg on August 29, 2017, 05:50:50 PM
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am i the only person to not heard this song yet?

Nope. I've held off any clips too.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: MASTER YODA on August 29, 2017, 07:39:30 PM
I hope "...along with all the album news." Means track listing and everything else
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: JFW on August 30, 2017, 01:01:03 AM
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I hope "...along with all the album news." Means track listing and everything else
Seems a bit early, isn't it? It comes out in December
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: drowningisnosin on August 30, 2017, 04:01:29 AM
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I hope "...along with all the album news." Means track listing and everything else
Seems a bit early, isn't it? It comes out in December

It might be earlier!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: JFW on August 30, 2017, 04:07:48 AM
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I hope "...along with all the album news." Means track listing and everything else
Seems a bit early, isn't it? It comes out in December

It might be earlier!
Maybe still a surprise release at the end of September?  ;)
probably not
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: RABIDLAMB on August 30, 2017, 04:25:06 AM
So we've heard The Little Things
A bit U2 by the numbers but the Sometimes outro is pleasant

We've also heard The Best Thing
Catchy chorus without breaking any new ground

Finally we've heard the chorus snippet of The Blackout
Uninspiring, we've been here before

Assuming SOE has 12 tracks we've heard 1/4 of the new album & there's no new ground broken here.
Lead off tracks are normally of higher quality than album tracks so I'm a bit disappointed tbh.
I think the real reason for the delay had nothing to do with Trump or the JT Tour.
I think the creativity & quality wasn't there, like with HTDAAB, they needed more songs.
I'm a little worried.




Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: drowningisnosin on August 30, 2017, 04:28:48 AM
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So we've heard The Little Things
A bit U2 by the numbers but the Sometimes outro is pleasant

We've also heard The Best Thing
Catchy chorus without breaking any new ground

Finally we've heard the chorus snippet of The Blackout
Uninspiring, we've been here before

Assuming SOE has 12 tracks we've heard 1/4 of the new album & there's no new ground broken here.
Lead off tracks are normally of higher quality than album tracks so I'm a bit disappointed tbh.
I think the real reason for the delay had nothing to do with Trump or the JT Tour.
I think the creativity & quality wasn't there, like with HTDAAB, they needed more songs.
I'm a little worried.

They wouldn't release an album if they didn't think it was up to scratch.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: The Edges Cat on August 30, 2017, 05:35:34 AM
Fear not, critics. The album/single hasn't been released yet, so Edge is still in the studio, remixing and tinkering. What's released tomorrow might sound completely different! They changed the locks and got guard dogs, but Edge crawled into the studio through the air vents...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Bantering ram on August 30, 2017, 05:59:39 AM
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They changed the locks and got guard dogs, but Edge crawled into the studio through the air vents...

No doubt with a little assistance from his cat?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on August 30, 2017, 07:19:53 AM
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So we've heard The Little Things
A bit U2 by the numbers but the Sometimes outro is pleasant

We've also heard The Best Thing
Catchy chorus without breaking any new ground

Finally we've heard the chorus snippet of The Blackout
Uninspiring, we've been here before

Assuming SOE has 12 tracks we've heard 1/4 of the new album & there's no new ground broken here.
Lead off tracks are normally of higher quality than album tracks so I'm a bit disappointed tbh.
I think the real reason for the delay had nothing to do with Trump or the JT Tour.
I think the creativity & quality wasn't there, like with HTDAAB, they needed more songs.
I'm a little worried.

To be fair, U2 have done a poor job of judging what their best material is record-to-record. The Troubles, Sleep Like a Baby Tonight, Cedars of Lebanon, The Ground Beneath Her a Feet, etc. Those have been some of the band's best songs of this century, but none of them receive the same amount of attention as tracks like Vertigo or Beautiful Day.

I can't blame U2 for that... those are the songs that brought them 21st century fame, but they go through the same thing with all of the clunkers like Crazy Tonight or The Miracle. U2 just don't know anymore, and I get the impresssion of a lack of confidence.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WhenIsSOE on August 30, 2017, 10:36:15 AM
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So we've heard The Little Things
A bit U2 by the numbers but the Sometimes outro is pleasant

We've also heard The Best Thing
Catchy chorus without breaking any new ground

Finally we've heard the chorus snippet of The Blackout
Uninspiring, we've been here before

Assuming SOE has 12 tracks we've heard 1/4 of the new album & there's no new ground broken here.
Lead off tracks are normally of higher quality than album tracks so I'm a bit disappointed tbh.
I think the real reason for the delay had nothing to do with Trump or the JT Tour.
I think the creativity & quality wasn't there, like with HTDAAB, they needed more songs.
I'm a little worried.

We haven't heard Your'e The Best Thing About Me yet. But we will Sept 6th!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: PowerSurge on August 30, 2017, 10:44:04 AM
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So we've heard The Little Things
A bit U2 by the numbers but the Sometimes outro is pleasant

We've also heard The Best Thing
Catchy chorus without breaking any new ground

Finally we've heard the chorus snippet of The Blackout
Uninspiring, we've been here before

Assuming SOE has 12 tracks we've heard 1/4 of the new album & there's no new ground broken here.
Lead off tracks are normally of higher quality than album tracks so I'm a bit disappointed tbh.
I think the real reason for the delay had nothing to do with Trump or the JT Tour.
I think the creativity & quality wasn't there, like with HTDAAB, they needed more songs.
I'm a little worried.

don't mean to pick on you...so my apologies upfront...but I absolutely HATE the use of the phrase: "U2 by numbers". For God's sake, this is a band that has made music in FOUR decades, have reinvented themselves a billion times, have all sorts of different sounds, and continue to make solid music in their fourth decade...what the hell does "U2 by numbers" even mean??? I think people really need to stop using that phrase. Its really lazy and it doesn't mean what they think it means. just my 2 cents. 
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: robgalloway on August 30, 2017, 12:34:27 PM
I think the new song is brilliant

I think some of the 'fans' on the forum are 'forum fans by numbers' same old clichéd negativity


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: NOLA Fly on August 30, 2017, 12:46:11 PM
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I think the new song is brilliant

I think some of the 'fans' on the forum are 'forum fans by numbers' same old clichéd negativity


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I concur. On both accounts.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: trevgreg on August 30, 2017, 12:47:05 PM
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To be fair, U2 have done a poor job of judging what their best material is record-to-record. The Troubles, Sleep Like a Baby Tonight, Cedars of Lebanon, The Ground Beneath Her a Feet, etc. Those have been some of the band's best songs of this century, but none of them receive the same amount of attention as tracks like Vertigo or Beautiful Day.

I can't blame U2 for that... those are the songs that brought them 21st century fame, but they go through the same thing with all of the clunkers like Crazy Tonight or The Miracle. U2 just don't know anymore, and I get the impresssion of a lack of confidence.

Once again: a song that's promoted is not an automatic declaration that someone thinks it's the "best" song on the record. It's just the tracks that people think will stir up interest to the general public for a new record somehow. Besides, every band has their single choices debated ad nauseam on fan forums. It's going to happen no matter what.

On a side note, I doubt Cedars would have gotten much attention since it's not even really a "song" as much as the others mentioned. Wasn't exactly pumped out live by the band or on YouTube covers, probably for a reason.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: wik73 on August 30, 2017, 12:47:34 PM
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I think the new song is brilliant

I think some of the 'fans' on the forum are 'forum fans by numbers' same old clichéd negativity


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I concur. On both accounts.
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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: MPare1966 on August 30, 2017, 12:54:38 PM
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I think the new song is brilliant

I think some of the 'fans' on the forum are 'forum fans by numbers' same old clichéd negativity


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I concur. On both accounts.
+2


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+3
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: RABIDLAMB on August 30, 2017, 12:59:39 PM
Well you should marry U2 and have their babies.
I've been a fan since Boy and I know the U2 sound I like.
Saying that the full track is much better than the snippet.
Very brave to be releasing it with a live vocal.
Perhaps this is the new way of experience
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Spacejunk69 on August 30, 2017, 01:00:14 PM
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I think the new song is brilliant

I think some of the 'fans' on the forum are 'forum fans by numbers' same old clichéd negativity


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This is a very poor statement. Im a fan on the forum because Ive been around since the early 80's following this band. Travelled the world to see them live many times. Im perfectly within my rights, as are the many others on here that have been a fan for a very long time, to voice negative opinions (keeping them cordial) about the new material the band releases.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: robgalloway on August 30, 2017, 01:06:36 PM
Boohoo ... I've seen U2 in many different countries too ... I've been a fan since I was 10 years old and my Dad was a fan too ... but my Dad hasn't spent the last 15 years on the internet moaning about U2 because they no longer sound like the 80's.

I really didn't like NLOTH ... I didnt hammer them online about it. I just quietly hoped that the next one would be better. I also sat out the 360 tour instead of complaining night after night about them playing new songs.


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Spacejunk69 on August 30, 2017, 01:12:02 PM
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Boohoo ... I've seen U2 in many different countries too ... I've been a fan since I was 10 years old and my Dad was a fan too ... but my Dad hasn't spent the last 15 years on the internet moaning about U2 because they no longer sound like the 80's.

I really didn't like NLOTH ... I didnt hammer them online about it. I just quietly hoped that the next one would be better. I also sat out the 360 tour instead of complaining night after night about them playing new songs.


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Excuse me, Im not questioning your fandom in any way, and I am certainly not 'hammering' online about anything. Read my posts. I like the song. I just prefer older U2. You have a problem with that and it shows by going all defensive and attacking other posters who don't have the same taste as you do.

Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: robgalloway on August 30, 2017, 01:16:22 PM
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Boohoo ... I've seen U2 in many different countries too ... I've been a fan since I was 10 years old and my Dad was a fan too ... but my Dad hasn't spent the last 15 years on the internet moaning about U2 because they no longer sound like the 80's.

I really didn't like NLOTH ... I didnt hammer them online about it. I just quietly hoped that the next one would be better. I also sat out the 360 tour instead of complaining night after night about them playing new songs.


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Excuse me, Im not questioning your fandom in any way, and I am certainly not 'hammering' online about anything. Read my posts. I like the song. I just prefer older U2. You have a problem with that and it shows by going all defensive and attacking other posters who don't have the same taste as you do.

No, For a start my post wasn't aimed at you, or people who maybe don't like the track ... there were people tearing up the U2.com membership after hearing the 15 second preview yesterday. Or have written off the album after hearing this new song. What if this new song isn't even on the album ala Invisible?

It's like some people hope for U2 to release a duff song just so they can't type 'I told you so, the band are finished'



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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: robgalloway on August 30, 2017, 01:17:27 PM
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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: paganini12345 on August 30, 2017, 03:58:04 PM
I loved the new track and I don't need to justify why  ;)

Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on August 30, 2017, 04:41:14 PM
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To be fair, U2 have done a poor job of judging what their best material is record-to-record. The Troubles, Sleep Like a Baby Tonight, Cedars of Lebanon, The Ground Beneath Her a Feet, etc. Those have been some of the band's best songs of this century, but none of them receive the same amount of attention as tracks like Vertigo or Beautiful Day.

I can't blame U2 for that... those are the songs that brought them 21st century fame, but they go through the same thing with all of the clunkers like Crazy Tonight or The Miracle. U2 just don't know anymore, and I get the impresssion of a lack of confidence.

Once again: a song that's promoted is not an automatic declaration that someone thinks it's the "best" song on the record. It's just the tracks that people think will stir up interest to the general public for a new record somehow. Besides, every band has their single choices debated ad nauseam on fan forums. It's going to happen no matter what.

On a side note, I doubt Cedars would have gotten much attention since it's not even really a "song" as much as the others mentioned. Wasn't exactly pumped out live by the band or on YouTube covers, probably for a reason.

I asked you on another thread why you felt this way and I don't remember getting a response...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: mrsamrocks2 on August 30, 2017, 05:53:22 PM
The new song is great
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: miryclay on August 30, 2017, 06:18:29 PM
I like Blackout too. I has moment of avant-garde quiet much like the intro to The Fly. The pace of bpm, theme of darkness are also similar to the Fly. The pre-chorus is interesting and after reading the lyrics it kinda has a feel of "hit the road, jack'. 
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: shineinthesummernight on August 30, 2017, 07:16:26 PM
Too many depressed non-fans on this forum.  Interference is over the moon with it.  The rhythm section kills it on "Blackout".  The lyrics are a subtle slam of he-who-shall-not-be-mentioned.  Love it!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: miryclay on August 30, 2017, 07:21:04 PM
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Too many depressed non-fans on this forum.  Interference is over the moon with it.  The rhythm section kills it on "Blackout".  The lyrics are a subtle slam of he-who-shall-not-be-mentioned.  Love it!

Ok, let's not talk about the lead from the 80's Ernest movies. Gotcha!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: MEMORY_MAN on August 30, 2017, 07:23:24 PM
The Blackout rocks!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: stumpy on August 30, 2017, 09:20:27 PM
I like the intro of Blackout and overall sounds a bit more funky which I wasn’t expecting. I think It’s an improvement over Vertigo, Boots, Invisible, Miracle but it’s still a fizzer imo. I don’t believe it’s going to captivate much acclaim by the critics or music fans in general. Approaching their 60’s they are still trying hard to be relevant and cool aligning themselves with modern mainstream rock.. It doesn’t wash well with people.. But I don’t expect AB Zooropa or POP again. They have done a few gems over the last 17 years which weren’t really widely known or lead singles The Ground beneath Her Feet, Electrical Storm, Mercy and “The Little Things”. the Jimmy Kimmel version proves they still have it. But I don’t believe they are finished, they are getting older but I think they need to break the cycle and release a lead single that is still contemporary but has an ambient emotional landscape combined with a strong anthem U2 were once known for…
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on August 30, 2017, 09:29:13 PM
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Too many depressed non-fans on this forum.  Interference is over the moon with it.  The rhythm section kills it on "Blackout".  The lyrics are a subtle slam of he-who-shall-not-be-mentioned.  Love it!

I know, all of these non-fans and their criticisms...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Spacejunk69 on August 30, 2017, 11:15:27 PM
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Too many depressed non-fans on this forum.  Interference is over the moon with it.  The rhythm section kills it on "Blackout".  The lyrics are a subtle slam of he-who-shall-not-be-mentioned.  Love it!

Oh dear! Do you understand terms like fandom and criticism, personal tastes, favorites etc?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: patjoller on August 31, 2017, 12:45:37 AM
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I like the intro of Blackout and overall sounds a bit more funky which I wasn’t expecting. I think It’s an improvement over Vertigo, Boots, Invisible, Miracle but it’s still a fizzer imo. I don’t believe it’s going to captivate much acclaim by the critics or music fans in general. Approaching their 60’s they are still trying hard to be relevant and cool aligning themselves with modern mainstream rock.. It doesn’t wash well with people.. But I don’t expect AB Zooropa or POP again. They have done a few gems over the last 17 years which weren’t really widely known or lead singles The Ground beneath Her Feet, Electrical Storm, Mercy and “The Little Things”. the Jimmy Kimmel version proves they still have it. But I don’t believe they are finished, they are getting older but I think they need to break the cycle and release a lead single that is still contemporary but has an ambient emotional landscape combined with a strong anthem U2 were once known for…

I think they should start to do what they WANT to do and stop doing what they THINK people are expecting.... trying to be cool and relevant don't suit them anymore.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: stumpy on August 31, 2017, 01:50:47 AM
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I think they should start to do what they WANT to do and stop doing what they THINK people are expecting.... trying to be cool and relevant don't suit them anymore.

+1
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: The Edges Cat on August 31, 2017, 02:30:47 AM
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I think they should start to do what they WANT to do

They are doing what they want to do.  ::)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: mc on August 31, 2017, 05:43:25 AM
I would be happy if it was left off the album and just put out as a double A side single
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: CJ on August 31, 2017, 06:03:20 AM
Blackout is growing on me which I hope is a good thing. ;D
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: bass slap on August 31, 2017, 06:12:38 AM
It's ok, got some great moments, especially the bass and the middle 8 moment ahead of the final chorus that reminds me of into the heart, with nice but of darkness and heavy bass!
With the good out of the way, that run at the end of each verse combined with the use of the word dinosaur just cunjures up some spinal tap for me. Like that it's political but drop the Fred and ned bs.
It's interesting, with flashes of greatness, but fails to deliver greatness.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: trevgreg on August 31, 2017, 06:23:05 AM
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I think they should start to do what they WANT to do

They are doing what they want to do.  ::)

It's translated as "I think they should do what I WANT them to do."  ;)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: mrsamrocks2 on August 31, 2017, 03:15:53 PM
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I think they should start to do what they WANT to do

They are doing what they want to do.  ::)

It's translated as "I think they should do what I WANT them to do."  ;)
Exactly haha. It always makes me laugh when people say the band should do what they want.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: JFW on August 31, 2017, 03:26:35 PM
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I think they should start to do what they WANT to do

They are doing what they want to do.  ::)

It's translated as "I think they should do what I WANT them to do."  ;)
Exactrly haha. It always makes me laugh when people say the band should do what they want.
Bono: "But I want to do what you want us to do"

(Great song title by the way)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 31, 2017, 04:19:17 PM
I don't understand, how can a promo tour happen in November if the album isn't out yet?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: JFW on August 31, 2017, 04:20:50 PM
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I don't understand, how can a promo tour happen in November if the album isn't out yet?
How do you think it will?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 31, 2017, 04:24:23 PM
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I don't understand, how can a promo tour happen in November if the album isn't out yet?
How do you think it will?

Are you asking why? The rumors say so. They were right about blackout and Best Thing. I can't imagine them doing Talkshows before it's released in december
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WhenIsSOE on August 31, 2017, 04:55:27 PM
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The lyrics are a subtle slam of he-who-shall-not-be-mentioned.
Trump? I don't think the lyrics are about that, if you know of lyrics that would prove that please provide them.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 31, 2017, 04:58:42 PM
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The lyrics are a subtle slam of he-who-shall-not-be-mentioned.
Trump? I don't think the lyrics are about that, if you know of lyrics that would prove that please provide them.

Not trump! Voldemort!!!!!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on August 31, 2017, 05:43:37 PM
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The lyrics are a subtle slam of he-who-shall-not-be-mentioned.
Trump? I don't think the lyrics are about that, if you know of lyrics that would prove that please provide them.

Quote
Statues fall, democracy is flat on its back, Jack
We had it all, and what we had is not coming back, Zack
A big mouth says the people, they don't wanna be free for free
The blackout, is this an extinction event we see

Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: shineinthesummernight on August 31, 2017, 05:56:47 PM
Big mouth is a reference to he-who-shall-not-be-named, imo.  He doesn't want freedom for free.  Either that or Satan.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Izzy on August 31, 2017, 06:55:30 PM
Not erdogan changing turkey?? He's implemented some major changes recently including reduction of freedoms. Also loud. Not on twitter though.

Statues falling is right up there with Nostradamus, or maybe they're still working on the album? 😀
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: shineinthesummernight on August 31, 2017, 09:59:45 PM
Turkey?  That seems like a stretch, although democracy is certainly on the defensive throughout the world.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: lucas.homem on August 31, 2017, 10:45:15 PM
When I read the lyrics, I think Bono was talking about how many people in the world feel like "representative democracy" failed. And the chorus incites not resistance, but participation. People shouldn't feel like they can't influence politics or that their vote is useless, because "when the lights go out, don't you ever doubt the light that you can really be".
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on August 31, 2017, 11:01:43 PM
Best thing without kygo? Might be. Go read the most recent post by cukelana on instagram.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: mrharmonia on September 01, 2017, 12:03:28 AM
I was looking into the Tidal rumor, and how it said there was a new U2 release. They tweeted this out in a gif.

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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on September 01, 2017, 12:08:28 AM
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I was looking into the Tidal rumor, and how it said there was a new U2 release. They tweeted this out in a gif.

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Looks like a house/club album cover
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: mrharmonia on September 01, 2017, 12:09:50 AM
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I was looking into the Tidal rumor, and how it said there was a new U2 release. They tweeted this out in a gif.

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Looks like a house/club album cover

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was released as a single along with the Kygo remix and other remixes but it’s hard to say for sure.


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on September 01, 2017, 12:13:16 AM
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I was looking into the Tidal rumor, and how it said there was a new U2 release. They tweeted this out in a gif.

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Looks like a house/club album cover

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was released as a single along with the Kygo remix and other remixes but it’s hard to say for sure.


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I made a post earlier about a sound engineers instagram. He talked about getting a message from Steve lillywhite two days ago saying they have a few hours to mix "best thing" even though they mixed it last year. The reason was because it was a brand new recording. I'm not sure kygo would have had time to work on this new recording.

Tidal is saying a u2 release is happening tomorrow on the app
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: mrharmonia on September 01, 2017, 12:15:31 AM
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I was looking into the Tidal rumor, and how it said there was a new U2 release. They tweeted this out in a gif.

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Looks like a house/club album cover

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was released as a single along with the Kygo remix and other remixes but it’s hard to say for sure.


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I made a post earlier about a sound engineers instagram. He talked about getting a message from Steve lillywhite a few days ago saying they have two days to mix "best thing" even though they mixed it last year. The reason was because it was a brand new recording. I'm not sure kygo would have had time to work on this new recording.

Ah! They’re definitely making remixes for it, then. The song must have changed a lot since last year, considering the album was delayed.


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on September 01, 2017, 12:17:25 AM
The tidal app says a u2 release tomorrow.
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Post by: mrharmonia on September 01, 2017, 12:22:49 AM
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The tidal app says a u2 release tomorrow.


My guess is that it’s meant to be Blackout, and they accidentally showed the Best Thing cover instead. Which if true, is quite the mistake.


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: JFW on September 01, 2017, 01:07:15 AM
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I don't understand, how can a promo tour happen in November if the album isn't out yet?
How do you think it will?

Are you asking why? The rumors say so. They were right about blackout and Best Thing. I can't imagine them doing Talkshows before it's released in december
Didn't hear the rumour 8). Do you have a link?

What if there are 4 songs known, then. The could play those. Or play another new song. Just teasing with live versions? Or the rumour about the album release isn't true. That could be the case, because I find them very early about promoting the album (3 months)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: soloyan on September 01, 2017, 05:56:52 AM
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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: judgesmails on September 01, 2017, 08:12:11 AM
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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Izzy on September 01, 2017, 08:31:21 AM
Did Getty airbrush the chest hair??
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: shineinthesummernight on September 01, 2017, 12:05:49 PM
Re. the earlier post:  Yes, I understand fan tastes and criticism et. al., but some people in these forums just seem like they are f****** miserable and will trash an album or single before it's even released, based upon a short clip. I cannot respect such knee-jerk negativity and can hardly call it criticism in any legitimate sense of the word.
Title: Re: SOE update
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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: JFW on September 01, 2017, 01:30:20 PM
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Re. the earlier post:  Yes, I understand fan tastes and criticism et. al., but some people in these forums just seem like they are f****** miserable and will trash an album or single before it's even released, based upon a short clip. I cannot respect such knee-jerk negativity and can hardly call it criticism in any legitimate sense of the word.
I'm just trying to ignore the negativity, haha. But you're right. It's quite depressing
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: The Edges Cat on September 01, 2017, 06:26:36 PM
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I think they should start to do what they WANT to do

They are doing what they want to do.  ::)

It's translated as "I think they should do what I WANT them to do."  ;)
Exactrly haha. It always makes me laugh when people say the band should do what they want.
Bono: "But I want to do what you want us to do"

(Great song title by the way)

Give me what I want, and no one gets hurt.

Goddammit, now I have that Spice Girls song "what I really really want" stuck in my head.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Zero on September 01, 2017, 07:44:17 PM
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Re. the earlier post:  Yes, I understand fan tastes and criticism et. al., but some people in these forums just seem like they are f****** miserable and will trash an album or single before it's even released, based upon a short clip. I cannot respect such knee-jerk negativity and can hardly call it criticism in any legitimate sense of the word.
I'm just trying to ignore the negativity, haha. But you're right. It's quite depressing

Yes! Ignoring baseless, inocuous negativity is the thing to do. Not just ignore it, but rise above it with your own positivity. Being positive is much better for our minds, our bodies and souls. Of course everyone is entitled to an opinion, but people who see themselves being constantly negative about something (U2 or whatever), should avoid said thing, and find other things to feel positive about. Just saying...   
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: JFW on September 01, 2017, 11:47:37 PM
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I think they should start to do what they WANT to do

They are doing what they want to do.  ::)

It's translated as "I think they should do what I WANT them to do."  ;)
Exactrly haha. It always makes me laugh when people say the band should do what they want.
Bono: "But I want to do what you want us to do"

(Great song title by the way)

Give me what I want, and no one gets hurt.

Goddammit, now I have that Spice Girls song "what I really really want" stuck in my head.
Thanks.....

.... for reminding why I have a dog
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: OnlyU2 on September 02, 2017, 10:39:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfERU6-jGyY

Interesting, but I doubt North Star will be on SOE
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on September 02, 2017, 10:57:13 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfERU6-jGyY

Interesting, but I doubt North Star will be on SOE


Eh, this is 5 years old. This is the transformers recording
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Bundang Dave on September 03, 2017, 07:46:14 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfERU6-jGyY

Interesting, but I doubt North Star will be on SOE


Eh, this is 5 years old. This is the transformers recording

The video clearly mentions the song bits were from the movie. However, that song has never been formally released, so it probably will be at some point. I too doubt it will be on SOE, but maybe it will be as a B-side or rarity at some point.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: OnlyU2 on September 03, 2017, 08:22:04 AM
http://ajournalofmusicalthings.com/thoughts-ahead-wednesdays-release-new-u2-single-lost-opportunity/

Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: JFW on September 03, 2017, 10:10:34 AM
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http://ajournalofmusicalthings.com/thoughts-ahead-wednesdays-release-new-u2-single-lost-opportunity/
That last paragraph did hurt.

Hoping they'll stay a bit longer. Maybe it's an idea to stop with 'Big Albums' and make more b-sides albums. Try to get money with outtakes, like Bob Dylan does.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: OnlyU2 on September 03, 2017, 10:14:47 AM
I'm hoping that, even though the contract is up in 2020, they will extend it.  The talk about Songs of Ascent keeps me hoping.
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Post by: Neil Young, man! on September 03, 2017, 10:56:01 AM
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http://ajournalofmusicalthings.com/thoughts-ahead-wednesdays-release-new-u2-single-lost-opportunity/
That last paragraph did hurt.

Hoping they'll stay a bit longer. Maybe it's an idea to stop with 'Big Albums' and make more b-sides albums. Try to get money with outtakes, like Bob Dylan does.
It does make a lot of sense though, feels like we are nearing the end and with the contract expiring and the possible trilogy release we are in. I predict the SoE tour will be followed by SoA album but no tour, and to finish the career, a greatest hits-ish tour a la AB30.
Title: Re: SOE update
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http://ajournalofmusicalthings.com/thoughts-ahead-wednesdays-release-new-u2-single-lost-opportunity/
That last paragraph did hurt.

Hoping they'll stay a bit longer. Maybe it's an idea to stop with 'Big Albums' and make more b-sides albums. Try to get money with outtakes, like Bob Dylan does.
It does make a lot of sense though, feels like we are nearing the end and with the contract expiring and the possible trilogy release we are in. I predict the SoE tour will be followed by SoA album but no tour, and to finish the career, a greatest hits-ish tour a la AB30.
We'll see, we'll see
Title: Re: SOE update
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http://ajournalofmusicalthings.com/thoughts-ahead-wednesdays-release-new-u2-single-lost-opportunity/
That last paragraph did hurt.

Hoping they'll stay a bit longer. Maybe it's an idea to stop with 'Big Albums' and make more b-sides albums. Try to get money with outtakes, like Bob Dylan does.
It does make a lot of sense though, feels like we are nearing the end and with the contract expiring and the possible trilogy release we are in. I predict the SoE tour will be followed by SoA album but no tour, and to finish the career, a greatest hits-ish tour a la AB30.

They will never do an album without a tour. its time for them to retreat to actual clubs and charge big money for tickets. They could do 5 nights in a city and do maybe roughly 12,000 people?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: robgalloway on September 03, 2017, 01:27:47 PM
U2 won't retire ... musicians don't retire ... you just got to look at who Bono considers heroes ... Dylan, Sinatra, Simone, Cash, Nelson. They all play until they die. It's bigger than money or career. Personally over time I'd like to see U2 evolve into Bono crooning more. Songs like 'Dancing Shoes', 'Two Shots of Happy', 'Slow Dancing', 'Love Rescue Me' style songs. A slower paced more mature show. Even if it's just Bono and The Edge playing acoustic shows. They will always perform and write songs while ever they are alive. You don't spend years obsessing over a single album to just retire when a Live Nation contract is up. Speaking as a songwriter you have no choice in it. The songs choose you. As Bono and The Edge get older they will see life differently and they will want to write about it.

Only death can stop them.


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Panama Jack on September 03, 2017, 03:55:23 PM
Is there any chance that there will be an option to purchase SOI & SOE as a double album bundle?

Mostly, I just want the new 2017 remastered version of SOI that was recently released on iTunes in lossless quality.

Here's hoping the new 2017 remasters of R&H, Pop, & ATYCLB also get CD or lossless download releases soon.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on September 03, 2017, 05:34:55 PM
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Is there any chance that there will be an option to purchase SOI & SOE as a double album bundle?

Mostly, I just want the new 2017 remastered version of SOI that was recently released on iTunes in lossless quality.

Here's hoping the new 2017 remasters of R&H, Pop, & ATYCLB also get CD or lossless download releases soon.

I never bought SOI so I'll buy a double album.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Zero on September 03, 2017, 07:23:20 PM
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U2 won't retire ... musicians don't retire ... you just got to look at who Bono considers heroes ... Dylan, Sinatra, Simone, Cash, Nelson. They all play until they die. It's bigger than money or career. Personally over time I'd like to see U2 evolve into Bono crooning more. Songs like 'Dancing Shoes', 'Two Shots of Happy', 'Slow Dancing', 'Love Rescue Me' style songs. A slower paced more mature show. Even if it's just Bono and The Edge playing acoustic shows. They will always perform and write songs while ever they are alive. You don't spend years obsessing over a single album to just retire when a Live Nation contract is up. Speaking as a songwriter you have no choice in it. The songs choose you. As Bono and The Edge get older they will see life differently and they will want to write about it.

Only death can stop them.


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Good and fair point. Maybe you're right!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: JFW on September 04, 2017, 04:06:46 AM
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Is there any chance that there will be an option to purchase SOI & SOE as a double album bundle?

Mostly, I just want the new 2017 remastered version of SOI that was recently released on iTunes in lossless quality.

Here's hoping the new 2017 remasters of R&H, Pop, & ATYCLB also get CD or lossless download releases soon.

I never bought SOI so I'll buy a double album.
You didn't?  8)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Neil Young, man! on September 04, 2017, 06:26:23 AM
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U2 won't retire ... musicians don't retire ... you just got to look at who Bono considers heroes ... Dylan, Sinatra, Simone, Cash, Nelson. They all play until they die. It's bigger than money or career. Personally over time I'd like to see U2 evolve into Bono crooning more. Songs like 'Dancing Shoes', 'Two Shots of Happy', 'Slow Dancing', 'Love Rescue Me' style songs. A slower paced more mature show. Even if it's just Bono and The Edge playing acoustic shows. They will always perform and write songs while ever they are alive. You don't spend years obsessing over a single album to just retire when a Live Nation contract is up. Speaking as a songwriter you have no choice in it. The songs choose you. As Bono and The Edge get older they will see life differently and they will want to write about it.

Only death can stop them.


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Good and fair point. Maybe you're right!
HOPE-fully you are right! I could see U2 being different as they have always been as interested in the commerce of music as the art of it. That comes out sounding very harsh, but the band and Paul M have reiterated this on several occasions, and it may be the thing that has kept U2 going for longer than most bands, so it's also...a good thing. I am not saying the retirement will last forever, but I can see the next tour being sold as the final tour/AB30 as they let SoA be the album it was meant to be...which means you don't tour behind it. But hey, it's all speculation.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Neil Young, man! on September 04, 2017, 06:30:57 AM
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http://ajournalofmusicalthings.com/thoughts-ahead-wednesdays-release-new-u2-single-lost-opportunity/
That last paragraph did hurt.

Hoping they'll stay a bit longer. Maybe it's an idea to stop with 'Big Albums' and make more b-sides albums. Try to get money with outtakes, like Bob Dylan does.
It does make a lot of sense though, feels like we are nearing the end and with the contract expiring and the possible trilogy release we are in. I predict the SoE tour will be followed by SoA album but no tour, and to finish the career, a greatest hits-ish tour a la AB30.

They will never do an album without a tour. its time for them to retreat to actual clubs and charge big money for tickets. They could do 5 nights in a city and do maybe roughly 12,000 people?
It's fairly certain they will tour SoE at this point. I think (not wishful thinking) the next tour will be a greatest hits/farewell/AB30 tour in stadiums. I think (wishful thinking!) they will release SoA as it was meant to be according to Bono, a meditative (use of word?) album, an album that could be released outside the album/tour cycle and possibly not include many songs you would tour behind, kind of a Passengers 2 (now outright dreaming out loud!) to complete the trilogy.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Neil Young, man! on September 04, 2017, 06:34:42 AM
...oh and to be on topic for once: I must say that Little Things from Jimmy Kimmel, the sound of Blackout and then last night's clip of Best thing from rehearsals now has me MORE excited about SoE. I think we may have a winner here!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Marwood on September 04, 2017, 07:02:39 AM
I'd like to seem them do shows in concert halls, somewhere a bit classier where you have a seat, have a (hopefully) decent view of proceedings without being sat miles from the stage and can enjoy the show without worrying about some buffoon barging into you or deciding to stand in front of you and block out your view halfway through the show (somewhere like the Royal Albert Hall or Royal Festival Hall in London would be ideal)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: trevgreg on September 04, 2017, 09:25:34 AM
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U2 won't retire ... musicians don't retire ...

Pretty much this. They're not going to just sit down on the beach every day and never write a note for the rest of their lives. If music is that much a part of somebody, they'll find ways to keep going at it. Maybe breaks become more common down the road due to age considerations or whatever, but I doubt these guys will completely hang it up until they leave this earth.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on September 05, 2017, 12:58:57 PM
So they might not share album news tomorrow???? They've removed mentions of sharing album news on all the blackout posts on the 6th.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: JFW on September 05, 2017, 01:06:58 PM
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So they might not share album news tomorrow???? They've removed mentions of sharing album news on all the blackout posts on the 6th.
That's very, very weird. A bad action, I think. Promising news and not making it true.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: sulphur76 on September 05, 2017, 01:08:21 PM
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So they might not share album news tomorrow???? They've removed mentions of sharing album news on all the blackout posts on the 6th.
That's very, very weird. A bad action, I think. Promising news and not making it true.

Are you new?  ;)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: JFW on September 05, 2017, 01:10:20 PM
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So they might not share album news tomorrow???? They've removed mentions of sharing album news on all the blackout posts on the 6th.
That's very, very weird. A bad action, I think. Promising news and not making it true.

Are you new?  ;)
Haha, come on. This is closer to lying than ever ;D. We'll see tomorrow

Do you know when it's changed?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: sulphur76 on September 05, 2017, 01:15:25 PM
My hope is they removed it because they are just going to release the album tomorrow and the earlier language was a ruse.

My fear is they removed it because they are having second thoughts and may go rework the album again, so release language can't be provided.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Pouakai on September 05, 2017, 01:15:49 PM
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So they might not share album news tomorrow???? They've removed mentions of sharing album news on all the blackout posts on the 6th.

Maybe they'll share the album instead?
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: zoo world order on September 05, 2017, 01:29:38 PM
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So they might not share album news tomorrow???? They've removed mentions of sharing album news on all the blackout posts on the 6th.

That does seem really wierd! I wonder what's going on?

I'm trying to be positive and assume there's no changes planned to the release schedule.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Crafty on September 05, 2017, 01:49:23 PM
Really unusual.

Maybe they weren't happy with the reaction to the blackout and have decided to rethink the album in its current form.

Alternatively we are getting the album tomorrow and they're playing it down.

Fingers crossed- I would expect that we will still get news. They pushed the date out through what was essentially a press release so to renage wouldn't be a good PR move
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: DavidSilvajnr on September 05, 2017, 01:52:08 PM
If you tune in in to BBC Radio 2 in the UK just after 5pm UK time tomorrow, Simon Mayo is playing the new single and will be speaking live with the Edge straight after. He's a big U2 fan and will ask proper U2 fan questions so probably worth tuning in to get the new album details :-)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: ClaytonMan on September 05, 2017, 02:01:19 PM
Will be tuned in.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: georgemccauley on September 05, 2017, 02:30:02 PM
Why is no one mentioning the possibility of renewing a contract with Live Nation? Say another 10 years that would be ample to perform again at the highest level.

Or is that simply not possibility. The U2 retirement will be the greatest retirement the world has ever seen though, I don't want to start imagining the scenarios just yet though


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Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Vox on September 05, 2017, 03:00:57 PM
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So they might not share album news tomorrow???? They've removed mentions of sharing album news on all the blackout posts on the 6th.

Hopefully they don't come out tomorrow and say, "the new album will be released sometime in early 2018.  'The Blackout' and 'You're the Best Thing About Me' are gifts to our fans for staying with us."  Or, hopefully the hurricane in Houston or news about the dreamers in the past week didn't change the world too much to make the new album irrelevant (ha, ha -- said with humorous, yet nervous, sarcasm).     
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: ecadad on September 05, 2017, 09:31:01 PM
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So they might not share album news tomorrow???? They've removed mentions of sharing album news on all the blackout posts on the 6th.

Hopefully they don't come out tomorrow and say, "the new album will be released sometime in early 2018.  'The Blackout' and 'You're the Best Thing About Me' are gifts to our fans for staying with us."  Or, hopefully the hurricane in Houston or news about the dreamers in the past week didn't change the world too much to make the new album irrelevant (ha, ha -- said with humorous, yet nervous, sarcasm).     

Bono: I've always been a bit, eh, unreliable. But honestly, with everything happening in the world it just wouldn't be right to put out Songs of Experience as it currently exists. We have a lot of songs, some great tunes, real rockers, but we need some time to go back to the studio and come up something fresh and exciting. Edge?

Edge: We've actually completed four albums since Songs of Innocence, but none of them are the one, you know?

Bono: So we'll probably be putting out an album next summer, maybe April or May, Songs of Experience, that is, and follow it up next autumn, September 2018. But don't take my word for it!

Larry nods sullenly. Edge chuckles uncomfortably.

Larry: When you're in U2, we want to make sure that what we put out deserves our name, you know what I mean?

Edge: But for all of our great fans we have a little something, to eh, hold them over.

Bono: Yes exactly, thank The Edge, so in addition to "Blackout" on the Facebook, the U2 group will be releasing "You're The Best Things About Me" and "The Little Things" on iTunes and all that for the fans, a little three-song set, like an EP if you will. That should come out very soon, very soon.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: monopoly on September 05, 2017, 09:33:39 PM
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So they might not share album news tomorrow???? They've removed mentions of sharing album news on all the blackout posts on the 6th.

Hopefully they don't come out tomorrow and say, "the new album will be released sometime in early 2018.  'The Blackout' and 'You're the Best Thing About Me' are gifts to our fans for staying with us."  Or, hopefully the hurricane in Houston or news about the dreamers in the past week didn't change the world too much to make the new album irrelevant (ha, ha -- said with humorous, yet nervous, sarcasm).     

Bono: I've always been a bit, eh, unreliable. But honestly, with everything happening in the world it just wouldn't be right to put out Songs of Experience as it currently exists. We have a lot of songs, some great tunes, real rockers, but we need some time to go back to the studio and come up something fresh and exciting. Edge?

Edge: We've actually completed four albums since Songs of Innocence, but none of them are the one, you know?

Bono: So we'll probably be putting out an album next summer, maybe April or May, Songs of Experience, that is, and follow it up next autumn, September 2018. But don't take my word for it!

Larry nods sullenly. Edge chuckles uncomfortably.

Larry: When you're in U2, we want to make sure that what we put out deserves our name, you know what I mean?

Edge: But for all of our great fans we have a little something, to eh, hold them over.

Bono: Yes exactly, thank The Edge, so in addition to "Blackout" on the Facebook, the U2 group will be releasing "You're The Best Things About Me" and "The Little Things" on iTunes and all that for the fans, a little three-song set, like an EP of you will. That should come out very soon, very soon.

I'd be perfectly fine with a 3 song ep and them calling it quits.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Pouakai on September 05, 2017, 10:07:12 PM
I'd rather a box set of all the songs they deemed 'not good enough' for albums, the unreleased songs in the same boat as Winter, Ground Beneath Her Feet, Mercy etc
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: ShankAsu on September 06, 2017, 11:38:58 AM
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I'd rather a box set of all the songs they deemed 'not good enough' for albums, the unreleased songs in the same boat as Winter, Ground Beneath Her Feet, Mercy etc
I'm pretty sure we will get that box set some day.  Although i'm not sure I'd call GBHF as a track that wasn't good enough for and intentionally left off a studio album.  I think that was a side project track that was intentionally for the MDH soundtrack that didn't feature Larry or Adam.  Either way, it was a good song, much better than some of the other tracks for the two albums released around it..
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: aviastar on September 06, 2017, 11:41:40 AM
A box set called "All That We Left Behind" would be pretty nice - includes all the orphan tunes that didn't get ushered to us through the album making machine.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Panama Jack on September 06, 2017, 11:54:17 AM
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A box set called "All That We Left Behind" would be pretty nice - includes all the orphan tunes that didn't get ushered to us through the album making machine.

That would be Fantastic!!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: trevgreg on September 06, 2017, 11:59:02 AM
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A box set called "All That We Left Behind" would be pretty nice - includes all the orphan tunes that didn't get ushered to us through the album making machine.

I suspect those songs would be dragged through some sort of process in the end anyway. I think when Springsteen released the Tracks box set, he still worked on those to an extent when compiling to "complete" the songs.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: sulphur76 on September 06, 2017, 12:05:36 PM
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I'd rather a box set of all the songs they deemed 'not good enough' for albums, the unreleased songs in the same boat as Winter, Ground Beneath Her Feet, Mercy etc
I'm pretty sure we will get that box set some day.  Although i'm not sure I'd call GBHF as a track that wasn't good enough for and intentionally left off a studio album.  I think that was a side project track that was intentionally for the MDH soundtrack that didn't feature Larry or Adam.  Either way, it was a good song, much better than some of the other tracks for the two albums released around it..

I remember reading an interview with Eno where he said the songs that ended up being on MDH were actually from the beginnings of ATYCLB sessions. Because he was well aware of how U2 works and their tendency to extend album sessions for years, as producer he suggested they try something different by writing and recording everything very quickly and putting it out. In the end, the band (started a trend) got cold feet and went back to the traditional recording method. The results of these early sessions is what was released on the soundtrack.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Messenger on September 12, 2017, 11:31:53 AM
Unless the band is willing to fly 4 hours each way (from KC to Cupertino) I doubt they're involved with the Apple event currently going on. No SoE today lol

Unless they get piped in remotely...I suppose Apple may be able to pull that off.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: The Edges Cat on September 13, 2017, 03:09:55 AM
Did Tim Cook even make a joke about U2? He could have trolled so many people today.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: parkman on September 13, 2017, 05:24:02 AM
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So they might not share album news tomorrow???? They've removed mentions of sharing album news on all the blackout posts on the 6th.

Hopefully they don't come out tomorrow and say, "the new album will be released sometime in early 2018.  'The Blackout' and 'You're the Best Thing About Me' are gifts to our fans for staying with us."  Or, hopefully the hurricane in Houston or news about the dreamers in the past week didn't change the world too much to make the new album irrelevant (ha, ha -- said with humorous, yet nervous, sarcasm).     

Bono: I've always been a bit, eh, unreliable. But honestly, with everything happening in the world it just wouldn't be right to put out Songs of Experience as it currently exists. We have a lot of songs, some great tunes, real rockers, but we need some time to go back to the studio and come up something fresh and exciting. Edge?

Edge: We've actually completed four albums since Songs of Innocence, but none of them are the one, you know?

Bono: So we'll probably be putting out an album next summer, maybe April or May, Songs of Experience, that is, and follow it up next autumn, September 2018. But don't take my word for it!

Larry nods sullenly. Edge chuckles uncomfortably.

Larry: When you're in U2, we want to make sure that what we put out deserves our name, you know what I mean?

Edge: But for all of our great fans we have a little something, to eh, hold them over.

Bono: Yes exactly, thank The Edge, so in addition to "Blackout" on the Facebook, the U2 group will be releasing "You're The Best Things About Me" and "The Little Things" on iTunes and all that for the fans, a little three-song set, like an EP if you will. That should come out very soon, very soon.
What interview is that from? I just read that on September 6th Bono said it will be released on the first of December.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: danlougee on September 13, 2017, 06:10:18 AM
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So they might not share album news tomorrow???? They've removed mentions of sharing album news on all the blackout posts on the 6th.

Hopefully they don't come out tomorrow and say, "the new album will be released sometime in early 2018.  'The Blackout' and 'You're the Best Thing About Me' are gifts to our fans for staying with us."  Or, hopefully the hurricane in Houston or news about the dreamers in the past week didn't change the world too much to make the new album irrelevant (ha, ha -- said with humorous, yet nervous, sarcasm).     

Bono: I've always been a bit, eh, unreliable. But honestly, with everything happening in the world it just wouldn't be right to put out Songs of Experience as it currently exists. We have a lot of songs, some great tunes, real rockers, but we need some time to go back to the studio and come up something fresh and exciting. Edge?

Edge: We've actually completed four albums since Songs of Innocence, but none of them are the one, you know?

Bono: So we'll probably be putting out an album next summer, maybe April or May, Songs of Experience, that is, and follow it up next autumn, September 2018. But don't take my word for it!

Larry nods sullenly. Edge chuckles uncomfortably.

Larry: When you're in U2, we want to make sure that what we put out deserves our name, you know what I mean?

Edge: But for all of our great fans we have a little something, to eh, hold them over.

Bono: Yes exactly, thank The Edge, so in addition to "Blackout" on the Facebook, the U2 group will be releasing "You're The Best Things About Me" and "The Little Things" on iTunes and all that for the fans, a little three-song set, like an EP if you will. That should come out very soon, very soon.
What interview is that from? I just read that on September 6th Bono said it will be released on the first of December.
Are you serious
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: Vox on September 13, 2017, 06:50:28 AM
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So they might not share album news tomorrow???? They've removed mentions of sharing album news on all the blackout posts on the 6th.

Hopefully they don't come out tomorrow and say, "the new album will be released sometime in early 2018.  'The Blackout' and 'You're the Best Thing About Me' are gifts to our fans for staying with us."  Or, hopefully the hurricane in Houston or news about the dreamers in the past week didn't change the world too much to make the new album irrelevant (ha, ha -- said with humorous, yet nervous, sarcasm).     

Bono: I've always been a bit, eh, unreliable. But honestly, with everything happening in the world it just wouldn't be right to put out Songs of Experience as it currently exists. We have a lot of songs, some great tunes, real rockers, but we need some time to go back to the studio and come up something fresh and exciting. Edge?

Edge: We've actually completed four albums since Songs of Innocence, but none of them are the one, you know?

Bono: So we'll probably be putting out an album next summer, maybe April or May, Songs of Experience, that is, and follow it up next autumn, September 2018. But don't take my word for it!

Larry nods sullenly. Edge chuckles uncomfortably.

Larry: When you're in U2, we want to make sure that what we put out deserves our name, you know what I mean?

Edge: But for all of our great fans we have a little something, to eh, hold them over.

Bono: Yes exactly, thank The Edge, so in addition to "Blackout" on the Facebook, the U2 group will be releasing "You're The Best Things About Me" and "The Little Things" on iTunes and all that for the fans, a little three-song set, like an EP if you will. That should come out very soon, very soon.
What interview is that from? I just read that on September 6th Bono said it will be released on the first of December.

That interview is from the tongue that is within the cheek.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: PookaMacP on September 16, 2017, 05:31:52 AM
I dreamt last night that U2 announced that the forthcoming record will be Passengers Part 2, with Eno & Lanois on board.

No joke. Imagine my disappointment when I woke up...

(Not that I'm not interested in SOE, more that I've always wondered what a second Passengers record would sound like – not least because I really like the full-on Eno/Lanois/U2 collaborations on NLOTH.)
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: lucas.homem on September 16, 2017, 09:01:43 AM
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I dreamt last night that U2 announced that the forthcoming record will be Passengers Part 2, with Eno & Lanois on board.

No joke. Imagine my disappointment when I woke up...

(Not that I'm not interested in SOE, more that I've always wondered what a second Passengers record would sound like – not least because I really like the full-on Eno/Lanois/U2 collaborations on NLOTH.)

Honestly, I'm not sure it would be good. Nowadays I do believe Bono and Edge like the pop songs they crave to write, with that kind of craft. When they deviate from that, it's to reach something very close, because they love Achtung Baby and Joshua Tree (albums with very conventional songwriting despite being masterpieces). So I don't think they have the spontaneity to let things flow aimlessly like they did with TUF and Passengers. That's why NLOTH failed (even songs like FEZ don't go very far away).

Of course, what I'm saying is purely speculative and unfounded, just to be clear.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: shineinthesummernight on September 16, 2017, 10:18:40 AM
You guys actually liked "Passengers"?  I tried listening to it but didn't like much on it.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: The Exile on September 16, 2017, 10:39:06 AM
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You guys actually liked "Passengers"?  I tried listening to it but didn't like much on it.

Well it does have Miss Sarajevo, Slug, Always Forever Now, and Your Blue Room (all of which could vie for a top 10 slot if they'd been released post-2000, in my opinion).
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: THRILLHO on September 16, 2017, 10:40:19 AM
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You guys actually liked "Passengers"?  I tried listening to it but didn't like much on it.

yea outside of the obvious 4 songs the rest is a test in patience. i DID enjoy it as night driving music, once...
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on September 16, 2017, 12:36:36 PM
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You guys actually liked "Passengers"?  I tried listening to it but didn't like much on it.

Aside from the obvious four songs, Original Soundtracks I has some incredibly beautiful music on it. The likes of A Different Kind of Blue and Beach Sequence have never been replicated by U2 since. The album creates beautiful sonic landscapes, like a more contemplative sequel to The Unforgettable Fire.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: PookaMacP on September 16, 2017, 12:58:17 PM
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I dreamt last night that U2 announced that the forthcoming record will be Passengers Part 2, with Eno & Lanois on board.

No joke. Imagine my disappointment when I woke up...

(Not that I'm not interested in SOE, more that I've always wondered what a second Passengers record would sound like – not least because I really like the full-on Eno/Lanois/U2 collaborations on NLOTH.)

Honestly, I'm not sure it would be good. Nowadays I do believe Bono and Edge like the pop songs they crave to write, with that kind of craft. When they deviate from that, it's to reach something very close, because they love Achtung Baby and Joshua Tree (albums with very conventional songwriting despite being masterpieces). So I don't think they have the spontaneity to let things flow aimlessly like they did with TUF and Passengers. That's why NLOTH failed (even songs like FEZ don't go very far away).

Of course, what I'm saying is purely speculative and unfounded, just to be clear.

I think you're on to something here alright. The ship might well have sailed on atmospherics – they seem to be obsessed with a more straightforward verse-chorus, primary colours, simple chords format at the moment.

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You guys actually liked "Passengers"?  I tried listening to it but didn't like much on it.

Yes, yes I really like Passengers. In fact, I'd take Passengers over any of the post-Pop albums without a second thought. It's a very big part of the U2 that I fell in love with when I was young – my first U2 album was Pop and I was a teenager in the 90s, so the atmospheric electronica is right up my street.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: lucas.homem on September 16, 2017, 01:16:05 PM
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You guys actually liked "Passengers"?  I tried listening to it but didn't like much on it.

Passengers is perfect from the beginning to Elvis Ate America.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: WhenIsSOE on September 17, 2017, 03:36:27 PM
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You guys actually liked "Passengers"?  I tried listening to it but didn't like much on it.

Well it does have Miss Sarajevo, Slug, Always Forever Now, and Your Blue Room (all of which could vie for a top 10 slot if they'd been released post-2000, in my opinion).
Your opinions of the only good songs on Passengers are EXACTLY THE SAME as my opinion of the only good songs on Passengers!!!
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: The Exile on September 17, 2017, 07:29:19 PM
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You guys actually liked "Passengers"?  I tried listening to it but didn't like much on it.

Well it does have Miss Sarajevo, Slug, Always Forever Now, and Your Blue Room (all of which could vie for a top 10 slot if they'd been released post-2000, in my opinion).
Your opinions of the only good songs on Passengers are EXACTLY THE SAME as my opinion of the only good songs on Passengers!!!

Well cheers to that! Although I never said they were the ONLY good songs on Passengers....

PS - Ain't gonna rot in a Memphis plot, Dr. King died just across the lot.
Title: Re: SOE update
Post by: U2-4-LIFE on September 17, 2017, 08:14:22 PM
Off topic, but would have loved to hear Beach Sequence playing over the speakers before they came out to play Miss Sarajevo in the encore. during the 1st 2 legs of JT30