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I get your point, I don't think that rock is dead either, just sayin' that it's a really dark time for rock bands if they don't drench themselves in pop to go mainstream. Yes, U2 have flirted with pop many times during their career, nothing bad about it, but they've never crossed the line like Fall Out Boy, Paramore and Thirty Seconds to Mars, which I love, but their last record is pretty much pop, and it's is awful and embarassing, a commercial move that has been a complete failure (luckily). I'm not agaist pop music regardless of the artist, I like a few things, but there are some aspects of it that I can't really stand.I wouldn't call the bands you've listed "relevant" nowadays apart from Muse, and some of them have changed their style and become pretty much pop. Fun are pop, not rock. Same as Foster the People. John Mayer is a bluesman. The song you've mentioned is reggae pop.For a rock band, in this age of manufactured and overproduced pop, it's impossible to become "big". The most relevant rock band today are probably Foo Fighters. U2 are still influent because they've invented a sound (guitar-wise especially) that is copied by everyone from pop to rock music. Other ones might be The Black Key who hit big in the past couple of years (but it is unknown if they'll be able to maintain this level of popularity, I say no and I don't like them) and Coldplay (don't know if I should consider them "rock" anymore...) No one else. The concept of the "big rock band" is dead and won't resurrect any soon. Rock isn't relevant anymore, and it's sad. Terribly sad. Because I think that rock music, when it carries a message, makes people (who want to listen) think. It can prompt a change in them. Another big problem is that, with the age of internet, youtube and the fact that everyone can record an album with few money, there are thousands of bands and artists around with nothing interesting to say and nothing original musically. This makes really hard to understand who's good and worthy. The market it's saturated. It's a really bad moment to be in a rock band or even to be an interesting artist in search of exposure, maybe the worst ever...
Foster The People
Kings of Leon
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Fall Out Boy
Thirty Seconds To Mars
Also...the song "Rude" by Magic! is very much guitar-based and it's listed at number 1 right now on the above chart...
Yeah, I guess I was associating your post with what an tha was saying...he was simply referring to "guitar-based music" and I was coming up with examples of artists whose music was heavily guitar-based.
Even still...while I kind of see what you're saying about it being more "pop", I think of pop and rock very interchangeably, or rather as rock largely being a subcategory of pop. If you ask me, most of U2's career has been spent making pop-rock, so to say that U2 is the only rock giant left on one hand but make the distinction of many of the artists I listed as being pop but not rock seems somewhat artificial. "Some Nights" by Fun. sounds like a reincarnation of Queen and "Carry On" has a soaring guitar solo, so why can't you call it rock?
Paramore and Fall Out Boy are certainly relevant by strictly commercial standards, each having two songs in the Top 100 last year.
I guess relevance is subjective, but to me it's also more than simply being in the Top 40, and I think U2 are aware of that. There are still rock bands that I would consider "big", maybe not on the Top 40 stations, but on rock and alternative-type stations.
I don't think rock is really dead, I just think it's reinvented itself. As Neil Yong said, "there's more to the picture than meets the eye."