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General U2 Discussion / Re: A post 80's fan perspective on live aid
« Last post by Luzita on Today at 04:25:26 PM »
Pride was their first top-40 hit in the U.S., though it only got to 33. It was Top 10 in some other countries including the U.K. SBS was never a big radio hit but New Year’s Day was Top 10 in the U.K.


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Sorry, I'm knowingly waking a dead thread.

I just watched their (and Queen's, too) performance at Live Aid for the first time since I was a kid (and I think I only saw it once then). I searched this forum for takes because I was trying to make sense of the performance through the eyes of someone in 1985. I was 8 years old at the time, didn't know U2, though I certainly knew about Live Aid, the horrible Do They Know It's Christmas? song, and I, along with all my classmates, had the We Are the World album.

What I just watched was a hot mess.

But I think the OP of this thread, despite being younger than me and thus even more removed from this moment, put his/her finger on it: I think even at the time people saw a hot mess but also the sheer earnestness of the performance.

It must have been excruciating for Edge and Adam (Larry was at least buried behind his drum kit) to be left standing there and playing that repetitive music over and over while Bono was trying to do his connection thing in vain. They didn't have a wireless mic back then, or he would have at least been talking/singing during this crazy gap. Bono himself must have been freaking out when he was down there, but he was committed.

By the way, props to the stage tech who rescued his mic when he dropped it, then brought it back to him when he finished his messy journey - that guy was just as committed and was not messing around. Anybody know his name? Cheers, dude.

If some young band had done this today, I think they would be skewered. So it's difficult to put myself back in 1985 and see it through those eyes. Bono just walked off the stage like he was gonna go die or something. But I guess people said "who IS that??" in a positive way.

Also, were all the U2 flags the real deal or plants? I wouldn't wonder if it were a U2 gig, but that was a LOT of flags for a non-U2 gig.

Interesting post.   I think this is partially the reason that some people don’t understand the significance of Pride in a modern-day U2 set.   Pre-TUF, they were already the biggest thing on college radio in the US.   I may be wrong, but I believe they were already getting significant airplay in the UK with SBS.   Once Pride hit though, mainstream rock radio in the US finally gave them the attention they deserved.    I think you could look at first day sales of TJT to get a sense of how big they had already become.  I, for one, had no interest in seeing anyone other than U2 on that day.   I could say the same for the majority of my friends in school.    The flags were the real deal.
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Oh dear, looks like horses and acrobat have disappeared for f@cking Iris, RBW.....utter contempt for genuine fans to play the innocence narrative again!

We’ve all seen it before...

Elevation, blinding lights, vertigo and beautiful day - uuurrrggghhh

Or, maybe... just bear with me... we're overexamining stuff that haven't even been finalized yet because we pay attention to people who are listening in on rehearsals, a situation which almost no other band has in the first place.

At least we're not Prince or Soundgarden fans at this point yet.
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Tours / Re: Only 2 L.A. shows?
« Last post by cocamojoe on Today at 01:15:40 PM »
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Is over pricing the main problem? Or over exposure plus lukewarm album reception? Overpricing can't be helping of course.
I wouldn’t say that it’s the only problem, but it is certainly part of it. Seriously, at least 40% of the tickets in any given city are over $300. The shoddy excuse that Ticketmaster/Live Nation is offering is that they’re simply selling them at what they’d go for on secondary markets, like Stubhub. Whatever the excuse, U2 signed off on it, as their past successes have gone to their head, where they expect their fans to pay damn near whatever they end up charging, and that their new album, containing many of their absolute worst lyrics in their entire career, is far better than it is (hence their seeming to entertain the thought that they can do a set that skips their signature live song).

I’m a casual fan of Elton John and Andrea Bocelli, but I sure as hell am not going to see either of them when they play my city coming up, due to how hilariously expensive tickets are. Also, I’m driving 2 hours to see Metallica, as tickets were at least 20% cheaper than in my own city (seriously, I paid something like $80 for a ticket that is going for around $180 in the identical section in my own cities arena).

The LA shows still have $41 dollar tickets available.
Reread my first sentence.

The obvious other problem is over-saturation, as they played 2 radium shows there last year, and then 5 arena shows 2 years ago.

They should’ve started this tour in Aussie, NZ, Japanese, and Korean arenas, before moving into Europe, and then ending in North America. By that time, the market demand would have returned back to near peak, especially if the shows garner good reviews in the press.
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DNA, Kendrick Lamar
Dream Baby Dream, Suicide
You’ve Got to Hide Your Love Away, Oasis
Flowers in Your Hair, The Lumineers
20th Century Boy, T. Rex


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Tours / Re: New Zealand and Australia left out again
« Last post by wons on Today at 12:32:00 PM »
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Yet, one of the few countries that the Joshua Tree album failed to go to #1 in was Australia.
Though TJT has outsold AB (which went to #1) in Australia. It's a very popular album there.

Australia is the only country in the world where Rattle And Hum outsold Joshua Tree.
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Tours / Re: Only 2 L.A. shows?
« Last post by wons on Today at 12:30:37 PM »
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Is over pricing the main problem? Or over exposure plus lukewarm album reception? Overpricing can't be helping of course.
I wouldn’t say that it’s the only problem, but it is certainly part of it. Seriously, at least 40% of the tickets in any given city are over $300. The shoddy excuse that Ticketmaster/Live Nation is offering is that they’re simply selling them at what they’d go for on secondary markets, like Stubhub. Whatever the excuse, U2 signed off on it, as their past successes have gone to their head, where they expect their fans to pay damn near whatever they end up charging, and that their new album, containing many of their absolute worst lyrics in their entire career, is far better than it is (hence their seeming to entertain the thought that they can do a set that skips their signature live song).

I’m a casual fan of Elton John and Andrea Bocelli, but I sure as hell am not going to see either of them when they play my city coming up, due to how hilariously expensive tickets are. Also, I’m driving 2 hours to see Metallica, as tickets were at least 20% cheaper than in my own city (seriously, I paid something like $80 for a ticket that is going for around $180 in the identical section in my own cities arena).

The LA shows still have $41 dollar tickets available.
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General U2 Discussion / Re: A post 80's fan perspective on live aid
« Last post by wons on Today at 12:27:13 PM »
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Sorry, I'm knowingly waking a dead thread.

I just watched their (and Queen's, too) performance at Live Aid for the first time since I was a kid (and I think I only saw it once then). I searched this forum for takes because I was trying to make sense of the performance through the eyes of someone in 1985. I was 8 years old at the time, didn't know U2, though I certainly knew about Live Aid, the horrible Do They Know It's Christmas? song, and I, along with all my classmates, had the We Are the World album.

What I just watched was a hot mess.

But I think the OP of this thread, despite being younger than me and thus even more removed from this moment, put his/her finger on it: I think even at the time people saw a hot mess but also the sheer earnestness of the performance.

It must have been excruciating for Edge and Adam (Larry was at least buried behind his drum kit) to be left standing there and playing that repetitive music over and over while Bono was trying to do his connection thing in vain. They didn't have a wireless mic back then, or he would have at least been talking/singing during this crazy gap. Bono himself must have been freaking out when he was down there, but he was committed.

By the way, props to the stage tech who rescued his mic when he dropped it, then brought it back to him when he finished his messy journey - that guy was just as committed and was not messing around. Anybody know his name? Cheers, dude.

If some young band had done this today, I think they would be skewered. So it's difficult to put myself back in 1985 and see it through those eyes. Bono just walked off the stage like he was gonna go die or something. But I guess people said "who IS that??" in a positive way.

Also, were all the U2 flags the real deal or plants? I wouldn't wonder if it were a U2 gig, but that was a LOT of flags for a non-U2 gig.

Back then U2 were not yet huge, but they already had a totally obsessed fanbase. Yes I’m sure those flags were real.


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U2 were big enough by the summer of 1985 to be doing some stadium shows in the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Ireland and Australia. Not to the degree that they would do on the Joshua Tree Tour in 1987, but still a few here and there.
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Oh dear, looks like horses and acrobat have disappeared for f@cking Iris, RBW.....utter contempt for genuine fans to play the innocence narrative again!

We’ve all seen it before...

Elevation, blinding lights, vertigo and beautiful day - uuurrrggghhh
And don't forget SBS (and that terrible 2015 version at that).  This set might just be for cities with more than one night, but still, that sucks big time for people at that show just to get a rehash of 2015 and especially if they are only going to that one show.
Even the other set with Acrobat and Wild Horses isn't that great itself.  2 rarities.  I really don't count the Ocean, with it being what just slightly over a minute long.
Really disappointed.  I think the band just got lazy.  This is the best they can come up with?
And like you also said, Elevation, COBL, Vertigo, BD again.  I know they have to play some hits, but really all of them.
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