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News and Rumors / Re: U2 now working with Ryan Tedder on new album
« Last post by eddyjedi on Today at 03:38:12 PM »
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Speaking from my perspective, what I'd very much like is for them to sound comfortable in their own skin - or, to put it more crudely, to sound their age.

'Moment of Surrender' was a fantastic step in that direction: there is a timelessness about that song that stands out far beyond the songs around it - and proved that they still have the magic if they listen out for it.

Compare that song to 'Ordinary Love': great melody, great chorus, great guitar sound, but a little lacking in an extra verse and something more robust to give it backbone. With the exception of the wonderful acoustic performances, anything other than the original version sounds painfully contrived (I'm thinking the EDMed-up-drums-remixes here). Or 'Invisible': ok, but could do better. It's all a little bland and, well, forgettable.

To give you examples of artists that made terrific records while sounding comfortable with their own age:
Bob Dylan - Time Out of Mind (released when he was 56)
Emmylou Harris - Wrecking Ball (48)
Bruce Springsteen - The Rising (52)

You will note that the first two of those records were produced by Daniel Lanois, and that all of the artists were in and around the same age as U2 are now when they made them. Note too that their age didn't preclude writing 'hits': 'Time Out of Mind' has 'Make You Feel My Love' on it (later a pretty big hit for Adele), while 'The Rising' had plenty of radio-friendly tracks (including three widely-played singles: 'The Rising', 'Lonesome Day', 'Waitin' on a Sunny Day') Emmylou Harris was a little short on hits, I'll grant you.

What am I looking for? For the band to more comfortable in its own collective soul.
But maybe that is it.  Maybe they are most comfortable in their own skin now in their 50's writing songs like ordinary love and Invisible and most of us don't want to except it.  They are probably now more uncomfortable writing songs like they did in the 90's. That is the problem. I don't want them to try to make an album more experimental because that is want they think people want from them if they are not comfortable making it.  Maybe hence the long, long, long delay.  If songs like ordinary love and invisible is what we get, I can except it if that is truly what they are comfortable writing.
I'd be happy with a more uncompromising NLOTH. I thought it was a great album except that they put GOYB, SUC and Crazy Tonight in the middle, which disrupted the whole flow of it. I think NLOTH with the following tracklisting would have been among their best ever:

1. Soon - Stingray Guitar medley
2. NLOTH
3. Magnificent
4. Moment of surrender
5. Unknown Caller
6. Winter - The Corbijn version, not the BROTHERS version...
7. Being Born
8. White as Snow
9. Breathe
10 Cedars of Lebanon

I'd be happy with an album like that. Call it experimental if that helps you...

^^^^ that's a much better album than they released... minus unknown caller. I would take EBW and replace it.

Minus Being Born and keep Unknown Caller. :)

1. NLOTH2
2. Magnificent
3. Moment of surrender
4. Unknown Caller - fez early version
5. Winter - The Corbijn version
6. White as Snow
7. Breathe
8. Cedars of Lebanon
9. Soon
10. Every breaking wave

This would have been incredible.
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General Music Discussion / Re: Record Store Day 2014
« Last post by TheU2Ken on Today at 03:26:14 PM »
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Bad news on that CP 7". Its delayed until after RSD in the US only.

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just saw this  :-\

BUT RSD IS 2 DAYS AWAY!!!!

Just read that the Paramore vinyl has 2700 copies. Hopefully I'll get one
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The Music / Re: How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb - Ten years on
« Last post by robert on Today at 03:21:22 PM »
same as all the modern u2 albums.. 4 or 5 good songs... just not worthy of remembrance in a hundred years time
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General Music Discussion / Re: Concerts of 2014
« Last post by TheU2Ken on Today at 03:11:04 PM »
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Weezer is playing after the Atlanta Braves game on August 12th! Weezer and baseball!?!?!?

I don't know how I feel about this but I better be there

You know you're irrelevant when...

;)
Kool and the Gang are playing next month

It's pretty sad that they're playing this show, but Kenning is damn excited to spend $30 for a game and a concert
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General Music Discussion / Re: Concerts of 2014
« Last post by Starman on Today at 03:10:00 PM »

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Weezer is playing after the Atlanta Braves game on August 12th! Weezer and baseball!?!?!?

I don't know how I feel about this but I better be there

You know you're irrelevant when...

;)
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General Music Discussion / Re: Concerts of 2014
« Last post by TheU2Ken on Today at 02:39:54 PM »
Weezer is playing after the Atlanta Braves game on August 12th! Weezer and baseball!?!?!?

I don't know how I feel about this but I better be there
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The Music / Re: How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb - Ten years on
« Last post by david on Today at 02:35:20 PM »
Love and Peace was the first song I heard on the album after Vertigo and I loved it first time, but it should have been much heavier with less twee lyrics.

Some of the one-sided from this era are my favourite U2 songs of all time, Are You Gonna Wait Forever is a little gem of a song with great guitar work. Smile is another that got away. It all hints at an album that could and perhaps should have been much better...but ultimately they wanted an album of 'twelve singles' as was said a lot at the time.
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Real World / Re: The Vegetarian/Vegan thread
« Last post by Maximus on Today at 02:28:03 PM »
I had the Carnivore special at the Little Big Horn today :)

But as with all diets you need to be sensible somethings work for one and not the other, you have to make sure you can handle a vegan or carnivore diet for that matter. All things with moderation and listen to your body.
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News and Rumors / Re: U2 now working with Ryan Tedder on new album
« Last post by wik73 on Today at 02:26:54 PM »

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Speaking from my perspective, what I'd very much like is for them to sound comfortable in their own skin - or, to put it more crudely, to sound their age.

'Moment of Surrender' was a fantastic step in that direction: there is a timelessness about that song that stands out far beyond the songs around it - and proved that they still have the magic if they listen out for it.

Compare that song to 'Ordinary Love': great melody, great chorus, great guitar sound, but a little lacking in an extra verse and something more robust to give it backbone. With the exception of the wonderful acoustic performances, anything other than the original version sounds painfully contrived (I'm thinking the EDMed-up-drums-remixes here). Or 'Invisible': ok, but could do better. It's all a little bland and, well, forgettable.

To give you examples of artists that made terrific records while sounding comfortable with their own age:
Bob Dylan - Time Out of Mind (released when he was 56)
Emmylou Harris - Wrecking Ball (48)
Bruce Springsteen - The Rising (52)

You will note that the first two of those records were produced by Daniel Lanois, and that all of the artists were in and around the same age as U2 are now when they made them. Note too that their age didn't preclude writing 'hits': 'Time Out of Mind' has 'Make You Feel My Love' on it (later a pretty big hit for Adele), while 'The Rising' had plenty of radio-friendly tracks (including three widely-played singles: 'The Rising', 'Lonesome Day', 'Waitin' on a Sunny Day') Emmylou Harris was a little short on hits, I'll grant you.

What am I looking for? For the band to more comfortable in its own collective soul.
But maybe that is it.  Maybe they are most comfortable in their own skin now in their 50's writing songs like ordinary love and Invisible and most of us don't want to except it.  They are probably now more uncomfortable writing songs like they did in the 90's. That is the problem. I don't want them to try to make an album more experimental because that is want they think people want from them if they are not comfortable making it.  Maybe hence the long, long, long delay.  If songs like ordinary love and invisible is what we get, I can except it if that is truly what they are comfortable writing.
I'd be happy with a more uncompromising NLOTH. I thought it was a great album except that they put GOYB, SUC and Crazy Tonight in the middle, which disrupted the whole flow of it. I think NLOTH with the following tracklisting would have been among their best ever:

1. Soon - Stingray Guitar medley
2. NLOTH
3. Magnificent
4. Moment of surrender
5. Unknown Caller
6. Winter - The Corbijn version, not the BROTHERS version...
7. Being Born
8. White as Snow
9. Breathe
10 Cedars of Lebanon

I'd be happy with an album like that. Call it experimental if that helps you...

^^^^ that's a much better album than they released... minus unknown caller. I would take EBW and replace it.

Minus Being Born and keep Unknown Caller. :)
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Real World / Re: soapit says goodbye
« Last post by Maximus on Today at 02:25:28 PM »
See you

God Bless and stay safe
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