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I discovered this video some time ago on You Tube and was wowed by it. Yes, U2 being very punk, Bono fearlessly mixing it up with the audience. I love the way he falls over ó clearly not planned ó but turns it into part of the performance by slowly and theatrically rising and then going into his crazy pogo dancing.


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You know, my favorite music tends to be from the 70ís, 80ís, and 90ís too, but Iím also aware enough of the reasons for it. Familiarity, nostalgia, and cultural context affect me as much as the folks deriding the Beatles in the 60ís. We like what we like, and eventually get set in our ways.

Also, I love the idea of insisting we support U2 rather than local music, as if theyíre mutually exclusive, or as if U2 might suffer as a result. FFS, Iím willing to bet U2 would encourage it themselves. The only important thing is to support what you like, really.


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   Look at the bands Wons listed.  Most of them have retired!   

  Bands like Mutemath, Kings of Leon, BRMC.  Snow Patrolís new album is pretty good.  No way is Rock dead!


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Of the 10 bands I listed, 6 of them are still active. So that is a majority.

Switchfoot, Simple Minds, Mutemath, Kings of Leon, BRMC, and Snow Patrol are all old in the sense that they were all releasing music before the start of this decade. Looking at rock artist that released their first album after January 2010, its not easy to find anything of the caliber seen in previous decades.

Do you really think there has not been a single good rock band appear on the scene in the last 18 years?


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No, I said since January 2010 which is 8.5 years, not 18 years.

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It seems like your preference is to have a big crowd gather around an artist to prove they are good before you deem them a legitimate rock band and worthy of giving a listen.  Thatís why you are so afraid people might not be liking U2 as much.  You need lots of other people to like what you like.  One way of ensuring that happens is to only like what lots of other people are already liking.  That might have worked when Rock was mainstream.   


Big Country was never a BIG band in terms of popularity. In the United States, they are regarded as a one hit wonder. But they have 9 great albums and are an amazing band. Sometimes even referred to as the Scottish U2. Their most popular album was the Crossing released in 1983. It went GOLD in the United States for 500,000 in sales. They played theaters and clubs when they toured the United States. I saw then in a bar in West Chester PA in 2013. There were about 150 people there.

I also love PJ Harvey. She has had a long career, but she never sold enough to get even a GOLD record in the United States. She plays theaters and clubs. Best female artist in the world in my opinion!

Sorry, but your theory about me and what I like and why I like it holds no water at all. It it did, I'd be ranking my favorite U2 albums by how much they sold with Songs of Experience at the bottom. I think Songs Of Experience is their 6th best album out of the 14 they have produced.



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Its a lot better to see a band in a 2,000 seat venue than a 40,000 seat arena.

If youíre interested in possibly seeing things you hadnít noticed before, this conversation can be worthwhile.  If you just want to win a silly pointless argument you can set the boundaries up any way you want and make that happen.  You can have the argument.  I just canít accept all the doom and gloom U2 might be fading with its fans/Rock is dead stuff. U2 will make music as long as they are inspired and There is going to be great new rock music, more than we can listen to, until we die.  It will have a resurgence and then fade again but not dying anytime soon.

In case you might have an open mind check out the following bands.  Some are more well-known but have become well-known at least since Coldplay did.  Others that are newer you may not have heard of.  But they are all bands I have enjoyed.  I feel bad that a fellow U2 fan is missing out on some GREAT music.

Spoon
Bon Iver (surely you know this one)
Cvrches (if you like DM)
Gang of Youths (pls check this one out)
Black Keys
Rainbow Kitten Surprise (really good)
Decemberists
Arcade Fire
The Paper Kites (mellow/folk but good)
Imagine Dragons (kind of moved on from ďRockĒ lately



I'm surprised you mention Imagine Dragons. I've listened to a lot of their stuff and don't like it. They do have one song I like though, but thats it.

The Paper Kites
Rainbow Kitten Surprise
Gangs Of Youth
Chvrches

           These four artist are new to me and all appear to have started in the current decade in terms of the release of their first album. I'll check them out to see if any of them are great.


             By the way I've loved several bands who have come after Coldplay's first album, or at least that I discovered after Coldplay's first album like Snow Patrol, The Killers, and Kings Of Leon. Its just that since 2010, it just seems like things have really gone down hill or simply nothing has really caught my interest that is new.

The 18 years was since Coldplayís first album came out.  Coldplay was the latest one on your list to come on the scene.  That is why I was saying 18 years.

Big Country and Simple Minds both suffer that issue of being a one-hit wonders in the US.  If you havenít already, check out Simple Minds more recent releases.  I think they are better than most of what they put out in the 80s and 90s.

Also if you havenít paid attention to Switchfoot, you should see what you think.  They donít sound like U2 but there is aomething there that if you like U2 I think you might like them.  They keep exploring new boundaries and they defy the demise of rock bands!



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Here's another blow-by-blow commentary of a performance video that interested me.

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Out of Control, Belfast (1981)

Fair warning: this performance is a train wreck. But it is a very PUNK performance and there are many gems. So many gems!!!

This is McMordie Hall in Belfast. I don't know the details but several bands were filmed here for a BBC programme. Here we go.

0:19
Adam and his hair!! Bono is very punk in a DGAF sloppy t-shirt or something. The crowd is super awesome, lots of energy.

0:34
Bono sings punk: hopping up and down, he's not trying to sound good (this is a feature, not a bug, in the punk world). First good glimpse of his face and his eyes look a little watery. Diagnosis: Baby Bono is drunk.

Right off, he messes up the lyrics:
Monday morning, woke the world with bawling

Should be:
Monday morning, eighteen years of dawning

0:50
Second verse, he runs into trouble due to the above:

One dull morning, woke the world with... again?

0:54
Soooo punk.

1:01
Bono is right up against the crowd and they are pawing at him in a big way. It's 1981 and U2 are nobody and the crowd is still trying to touch him, pull his shirt, yank his microphone. And he stands there and takes it, because he's all in.

1:13
Bono starts the "Boys and girls" line but somebody in the crowd successfully rips the mic away. I guess they regretted it instantly because he grabs it back easily. He is not upset. He doesn't move away from the crowd or the offender. He just keeps going and all those the hands keep patting and grasping at him. Is anyone else amazed at this scene?

1:25
He leans back into the crowd, basically crowd-surfing.

1:37
He stands back up on the stage, takes a step or two back, and falls right down on his ass, a full-body plant right on the stage.

1:42
Edge steps up for his solo like nothing is happening. His frontman is still horizontally plastered to the stage. Baby Edge does his Edge moves dancing his guitar with his knees-together hip thrust thing.

1:49
Bono slowly starts to haul himself to his feet.

2:00
Oh, god!! The dancing!! Omfg!

2:27
When was Daniel Radcliffe the lead singer for U2?

2:50
Looking three sheets to the wind.

2:59
Back to the audience for more love/abuse. Someone grabs his shirt and won't let go. He yanks himself away and decides he doesn't really need that shirt after all. Plopping down the mic for a sec (you can hear the mic drop too), he pulls his shirt off over his head. The crowd cheers.

3:12
He was already out of control, but this is the precise timestamp that he goes OUT OF CONTROL. Shirtless, sweating, people grabbing, he moves like he's fighting them off and launches into the climax of the song. He regularly has to fight to retain control of the mic.

3:41
Edge gets his cinematic moment, he sings his backup vocal into his mic as the camera gets a closeup of him including eye contact, feeling like slow-motion for one brief second.

4:06
Bono says good night and wishes "Jake" from Stiff Little Fingers luck tomorrow. It's a kind thing to do this shoutout.

Noteable YT comment:

"Thank god Bono eventually overcame his crippling stage fright."

Also, once again I don't have Larry comments. I can barely see him here. I love Larry. He did great.
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General U2 Discussion / Re: Rock Star Midlife Crisis?
« Last post by Inishfree on Today at 01:38:49 PM »
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Is it just me - or does bono seem to be going through the rock star equivalent of a midlife crisis? Thoughts?


Nah,...........Bono is too old now for a mid-life crisis and so am I.    ;D
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General U2 Discussion / Re: Eli Hewsonís Band in Name Dispute
« Last post by Inishfree on Today at 01:35:31 PM »
I watched a couple of videos of Eli's band.  I thought they were quite good for being teenagers and hope they stay with it.  As far as a band name goes, it's more about the music.   ;)

Also, Eli sounds somewhat like his dad while singing.    :)
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General U2 Discussion / Re: Songs Of Experience sales in the United States
« Last post by wons on Today at 01:07:51 PM »
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You know, my favorite music tends to be from the 70ís, 80ís, and 90ís too, but Iím also aware enough of the reasons for it. Familiarity, nostalgia, and cultural context affect me as much as the folks deriding the Beatles in the 60ís. We like what we like, and eventually get set in our ways.

Also, I love the idea of insisting we support U2 rather than local music, as if theyíre mutually exclusive, or as if U2 might suffer as a result. FFS, Iím willing to bet U2 would encourage it themselves. The only important thing is to support what you like, really.


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   Look at the bands Wons listed.  Most of them have retired!   

  Bands like Mutemath, Kings of Leon, BRMC.  Snow Patrolís new album is pretty good.  No way is Rock dead!


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Of the 10 bands I listed, 6 of them are still active. So that is a majority.

Switchfoot, Simple Minds, Mutemath, Kings of Leon, BRMC, and Snow Patrol are all old in the sense that they were all releasing music before the start of this decade. Looking at rock artist that released their first album after January 2010, its not easy to find anything of the caliber seen in previous decades.

Do you really think there has not been a single good rock band appear on the scene in the last 18 years?


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No, I said since January 2010 which is 8.5 years, not 18 years.

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It seems like your preference is to have a big crowd gather around an artist to prove they are good before you deem them a legitimate rock band and worthy of giving a listen.  Thatís why you are so afraid people might not be liking U2 as much.  You need lots of other people to like what you like.  One way of ensuring that happens is to only like what lots of other people are already liking.  That might have worked when Rock was mainstream.   


Big Country was never a BIG band in terms of popularity. In the United States, they are regarded as a one hit wonder. But they have 9 great albums and are an amazing band. Sometimes even referred to as the Scottish U2. Their most popular album was the Crossing released in 1983. It went GOLD in the United States for 500,000 in sales. They played theaters and clubs when they toured the United States. I saw then in a bar in West Chester PA in 2013. There were about 150 people there.

I also love PJ Harvey. She has had a long career, but she never sold enough to get even a GOLD record in the United States. She plays theaters and clubs. Best female artist in the world in my opinion!

Sorry, but your theory about me and what I like and why I like it holds no water at all. It it did, I'd be ranking my favorite U2 albums by how much they sold with Songs of Experience at the bottom. I think Songs Of Experience is their 6th best album out of the 14 they have produced.



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Its a lot better to see a band in a 2,000 seat venue than a 40,000 seat arena.

If youíre interested in possibly seeing things you hadnít noticed before, this conversation can be worthwhile.  If you just want to win a silly pointless argument you can set the boundaries up any way you want and make that happen.  You can have the argument.  I just canít accept all the doom and gloom U2 might be fading with its fans/Rock is dead stuff. U2 will make music as long as they are inspired and There is going to be great new rock music, more than we can listen to, until we die.  It will have a resurgence and then fade again but not dying anytime soon.

In case you might have an open mind check out the following bands.  Some are more well-known but have become well-known at least since Coldplay did.  Others that are newer you may not have heard of.  But they are all bands I have enjoyed.  I feel bad that a fellow U2 fan is missing out on some GREAT music.

Spoon
Bon Iver (surely you know this one)
Cvrches (if you like DM)
Gang of Youths (pls check this one out)
Black Keys
Rainbow Kitten Surprise (really good)
Decemberists
Arcade Fire
The Paper Kites (mellow/folk but good)
Imagine Dragons (kind of moved on from ďRockĒ lately



I'm surprised you mention Imagine Dragons. I've listened to a lot of their stuff and don't like it. They do have one song I like though, but thats it.

The Paper Kites
Rainbow Kitten Surprise
Gangs Of Youth
Chvrches

           These four artist are new to me and all appear to have started in the current decade in terms of the release of their first album. I'll check them out to see if any of them are great.


             By the way I've loved several bands who have come after Coldplay's first album, or at least that I discovered after Coldplay's first album like Snow Patrol, The Killers, and Kings Of Leon. Its just that since 2010, it just seems like things have really gone down hill or simply nothing has really caught my interest that is new.
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Fun and Games / Re: A-Z U2 songs
« Last post by kevtn43 on Today at 12:59:17 PM »
J . swallo
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News and Rumors / Re: U2 makes top 10 on charts
« Last post by Moser on Today at 12:14:01 PM »
Make that #1.

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Bono going into the upper register of his voice on "You go your way and I'll go mine" really takes me to another place.
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This video is a very lovely version of the song.  Thanks for sharing!
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