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And can I get extra points for off-handedly shrugging off Motley Crue and Garth Brooks in the same post, while defending the right for someone to like both?

Seriously though, if I remember, the beginning of the song "Dr. Feelgood" is pretty substantial.  Though, I should probably listen to it again.   
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General U2 Discussion / Re: Are we finally not craving a new U2 album?
« Last post by 73October on April 18, 2018, 11:54:42 AM »
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Where did you hear the beck remix if i might ask? I really like Beck and am looking forward to it. Would love to hear it.

On YouTube

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No, I get it.  I don't care for their sound or the people themselves, either.  But, a lot of people must get them, because they were one of the best selling bands for half a decade.  Just because I don't get them at all, or like the genre of rock they come from, doesn't mean I should dismiss them or other people liking them.

Unlike Garth Brooks, for example...  ;)
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When I first clicked on it, I thought it was going to be a joke thread of some kind if I'm honest.  31st is a very specific anniversary.  Then I watched the video and had opinions to express.  Also, I don't think forums should be nothing but a love fest where people agree on everything.  Debate is fun.  There's nothing wrong with people who have conflicting opinions arguing their points.

I'm not sure "still gets heavily played in strip clubs" is a badge of honor.  When U2 had the dancing girl on stage and all of that stuff it was during ZooTV when they were parodying the ridiculous excesses of rock and roll.  Motley Crue are not being at all ironic or satirical.  Just as important, in the Mysterious Ways segment when Bono is reaching for the dancing girl, she has the power in the situation.  He is the fool at her mercy.  That's the difference and the reason the video is dated.  It isn't the visuals or the level of nudity; it's the power dynamic.  The men are in control, at one point actually calling the women "new toys."  If that were released today, it would be publicly eviscerated like the Blurred Lines video was. 

I haven't seen them live either, but I did see them on some festival thing on tv once, and boy were they bad.  Singer was totally off key, but the lead guitar player was pretty darn good and looked like a walking corpse, which worked pretty well with the whole metal aesthetic.  Still though, a band of 50 something men and they have scantily-clad 20 year old dancers on stage, creepy.  I tried looking up an old video of theirs, but I skipped to a random timecode into the middle of a speech about tying a woman to a four post bed and taking turns with her, so I turned it off.

Side note, Garth Brooks is pretty awful, but his song Ireland is f****** amazing.  It's almost impossible to find, no version on YouTube or any streaming service, but if you can find it, it'll blow you away.  Sounds nothing like his usual fake country crap.
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General Music Discussion / Re: One Big Happy Rock n Roll Family
« Last post by imaginary friend on April 18, 2018, 11:41:11 AM »
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Tours / Re: **Spoilers The Boyz in Laval QC for rehearsals.....**Spoilers
« Last post by miryclay on April 18, 2018, 10:19:09 AM »
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Tours / Re: Any news or rumors about more tour dates for E&I Tour?
« Last post by miryclay on April 18, 2018, 10:16:57 AM »
It's a term I made up to indicate when a concert is listed on Ticketmaster either in error or by technical glitch. Often the concert never materializes. Fans in that small market temporarily grasp the taste of relevance but then are ultimately let down back to their lives of quiet desperation.

If you watch urbandictionary.com I might add it there soon.
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Tours / Re: **Spoilers The Boyz in Laval QC for rehearsals.....**Spoilers
« Last post by MPare1966 on April 18, 2018, 10:14:37 AM »
Latest report. In deutsche?

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The Music and Lyrics / Re: If you love 13, sell me on it
« Last post by benpoke on April 18, 2018, 10:00:11 AM »
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Still my favorite track on the new album.  I love Bono singing in his lower register.  I love the melody and the lyrics (listen closely to the second verse especially--that tender rendering of sorrow and confusion, the way Bono eschews words to finish the verse with some melodic mumbling since, after all, what else is there to say there?).  I love that it's addressed to his kids, the world-weary wisdom.  I love that the Song for Someone refrain is sung with restraint.  What puts it over the top for me is the "I know the world is done, but you don't have to be.  I've got a question for the child in you before it leaves..." section.  The way the music almost dies out, that simple tom beat.  The way Bono includes himself in the doubt and pain (not his usual preaching stance) with the "someone like me" line, repeated at the end. 

The song is so authentic and raw.  Bono passing on what he has to offer out of his own mortality and humanity.  Bono sings about love a lot.  This song is an expression of love, saturated with love's absolute vulnerability. 

I cried the first, second, and third time I listened to it.  It still moves me deeply.

To my ears, the best album closer since Love is Blindness.

Basically, what he said.  I have trouble with a lot of U2's 21st century output but this is beautiful.  Bono singing in a register that befits his age, genuine emotion, lovely production and as the guy above said, a superb album closer.  If this was U2's final album, I'd be happy with this as their swan song.

As an aside, I have to say that I probably like this song more as I am a parent of two kids and it sounds like a lovely sentiment to pass onto your kids.  Perhaps you have to be a parent to appreciate it fully?
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Tours / Re: Any news or rumors about more tour dates for E&I Tour?
« Last post by wons on April 18, 2018, 09:36:27 AM »
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Columbus actually had a ghost TM date for this tour.

What is a ghost TM date?

Another thought I had is that they are going to end the tour in November and spend all of 2019 working on Songs Of Ascent. Then in 2020, will get the Songs Of Ascent Tour that will play virtually everywhere. That would be a really fast turn around though for a new album and tour. But it would to some degree explain why they seem to be cutting this tour short.
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