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Re: Teenagers of today liking U2 ?
« Reply #105 on: February 02, 2012, 01:07:52 AM »
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It has nothing to do with point of view. It has to do with the damage it's causing kids.

Using it in a song is different. I don't think Bono could get away with walking around saying the N word in everyday language. Your analogy is fatally flawed.

Since it is considered inappropriate and prohibited to use the N word in everyday conversation, so too should the homonegative use of the word "gay" and ESPECIALLY the F word. If kids are being punished for using the N word in schools, why is the homophobic language allowed?

Because it's the last remaining socially acceptable prejudice.

Here's a question for you: why are you so protective of your supposed "right" to verbally denigrate my sexuality and my people?

Droo please calm down - you know full well I'm not trying to 'denigrate your sexuality'. As for denigrating 'your people' I have no idea who 'your people' are.

The initial point of this conversation was> are certain words (ie N***** or slang terms for homosexuals) acceptable depending on context.

The answer to that is yes as evidenced by, say, bono using the N word. The Pogues song Fairytale of New York uses the word faggot. It doesn't make the song homophobic.

You can't outlaw words either at school or anywhere else - all you can do is educate people to be respectful of others.

I don't know where you live but being homophobic isn't a 'socially acceptable form of prejudice' here in the UK - in fact there are laws against it.

Case closed.

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Re: Teenagers of today liking U2 ?
« Reply #106 on: February 02, 2012, 01:10:54 AM »
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Convent Shoes,

John Lennon wrote a song, titled "Woman is the N***** of the World."  We understood Lennon's point of view and agreed with it.  His lyrics are enlightening, not offensive.  Women were protesting for equal rights, respect in society and the work place.  Having to put up with an unwanted sexual advance.  Was something women had to tolerate from some heterosexual men, if they wanted to keep their job.  Now, it is against the law.

During the late seventies, I went through it.  I had a sleezy boss who was married and thought it was perfectly okay.  To put his arm around me and ask me.  "If I wanted to fool around."  This happened on more than one occassion.  He made me feel so uncomfortable.  I quit my job.  Today, it would never be tolerated.  He would be fired and rightfully so.

Right - so as I pointed out in the first place words are all about context. That's all I was saying and all I'm still saying now so I dont see why everyone is getting in my face.  :-\

In fact a well placed 'offensive' word can often have profound meaning as evidenced by your John Lennon example.

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Re: Teenagers of today liking U2 ?
« Reply #107 on: February 02, 2012, 01:19:53 AM »
The birds are singing, the sun is shining; what a gay day.


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Re: Teenagers of today liking U2 ?
« Reply #108 on: February 02, 2012, 01:22:39 AM »
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The birds are singing, the sun is shining; what a gay day.

Homophobe.  8)

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Re: Teenagers of today liking U2 ?
« Reply #109 on: February 02, 2012, 01:26:02 AM »
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The birds are singing, the sun is shining; what a gay day.

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« Reply #110 on: February 02, 2012, 01:30:07 AM »
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The birds are singing, the sun is shining; what a gay day.

Homophobe.  8)

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Re: Teenagers of today liking U2 ?
« Reply #111 on: February 02, 2012, 02:56:07 AM »
Gay traditionally means "happy", So in the traditional ... Bono is "HAPPY" :) So am IIIIIIII

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Re: Teenagers of today liking U2 ?
« Reply #112 on: February 02, 2012, 03:43:52 AM »
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Gay traditionally means "happy", So in the traditional ... Bono is "HAPPY" :) So am IIIIIIII

I think if I had a net worth in excess of 100 Million, I'd have a smile on my face too.


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Re: Teenagers of today liking U2 ?
« Reply #113 on: February 02, 2012, 05:56:50 AM »
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Gay traditionally means "happy", So in the traditional ... Bono is "HAPPY" :) So am IIIIIIII

I think if I had a net worth in excess of 100 Million, I'd have a smile on my face too.

Bono must be feeling particularly gay today as he owns 1.5% of Facebook which is about to be floated on the stock market!  8)

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Re: Teenagers of today liking U2 ?
« Reply #114 on: February 02, 2012, 06:20:25 AM »
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Gay traditionally means "happy", So in the traditional ... Bono is "HAPPY" :) So am IIIIIIII

I think if I had a net worth in excess of 100 Million, I'd have a smile on my face too.

Bono must be feeling particularly gay today as he owns 1.5% of Facebook which is about to be floated on the stock market!  8)

Just Bono or his investment partnership?


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Re: Teenagers of today liking U2 ?
« Reply #115 on: February 02, 2012, 06:48:50 AM »
A question for our young folks.  What song by U2 got your attention and made you want to listen to other songs they had written?

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Re: Teenagers of today liking U2 ?
« Reply #116 on: February 02, 2012, 07:11:34 AM »
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A question for our young folks.  What song by U2 got your attention and made you want to listen to other songs they had written?

I'm only comparatively young, but it was the release of Desire in 1988 that got my attention.


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Re: Teenagers of today liking U2 ?
« Reply #117 on: February 02, 2012, 07:15:19 AM »
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Gay traditionally means "happy", So in the traditional ... Bono is "HAPPY" :) So am IIIIIIII

I think if I had a net worth in excess of 100 Million, I'd have a smile on my face too.

Bono must be feeling particularly gay today as he owns 1.5% of Facebook which is about to be floated on the stock market!  8)

Just Bono or his investment partnership?

Elevation Partners

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Re: Teenagers of today liking U2 ?
« Reply #118 on: February 02, 2012, 07:18:35 AM »
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A question for our young folks.  What song by U2 got your attention and made you want to listen to other songs they had written?



Performance-wise it was Sunday Bloody Sunday @ Slane Castle, lyric-wise it was either Bad or One.

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Re: Teenagers of today liking U2 ?
« Reply #119 on: February 02, 2012, 07:31:08 AM »
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Gay traditionally means "happy", So in the traditional ... Bono is "HAPPY" :) So am IIIIIIII

I think if I had a net worth in excess of 100 Million, I'd have a smile on my face too.

Bono must be feeling particularly gay today as he owns 1.5% of Facebook which is about to be floated on the stock market!  8)

Just Bono or his investment partnership?

Elevation Partners

If floated, Facebook could have a market cap of over $100 Billion.  :o

That would value EP's stake at $1.5 Billion.

God, how I wish I had got in on the ground floor of that company.  :'( :'( :'(

Hey Mister Bono, you is a sexy man.  :-* :-* :-*