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Are The Beatles Overated?

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No (They Were Ahead Of Their Time)
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Re: Are The Beatles Overated?
« Reply #45 on: December 26, 2009, 07:38:30 AM »
Are we on the same page on what's "pop"? How can you say A Day in the Life, Strawberry Fields, Eleanor Rigby are pop?

To me, it's putting most of their songs on the same page as Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, etc, which is extremely disrespectful and unbelievably ignorant. Sorry.

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Re: Are The Beatles Overated?
« Reply #46 on: December 26, 2009, 12:40:47 PM »
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Are we on the same page on what's "pop"? How can you say A Day in the Life, Strawberry Fields, Eleanor Rigby are pop?

To me, it's putting most of their songs on the same page as Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, etc, which is extremely disrespectful and unbelievably ignorant. Sorry.

Why do you consider the label 'Pop' is inferior to 'Rock'?

I, for one, am on the same page as Shockdocta and think most Beatles songs sound popish.

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Re: Are The Beatles Overated?
« Reply #47 on: December 26, 2009, 12:42:08 PM »
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Are we on the same page on what's "pop"? How can you say A Day in the Life, Strawberry Fields, Eleanor Rigby are pop?

To me, it's putting most of their songs on the same page as Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, etc, which is extremely disrespectful and unbelievably ignorant. Sorry.

Why do you consider the label 'Pop' is inferior to 'Rock'?

I, for one, am on the same page as Shockdocta and think most Beatles songs sound popish.

i never said Pop is bad though, but songs of theirs do sound a little more Popish, compare Eleanor Rigby to rock songs at the time from say..the Rolling Stones

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Re: Are The Beatles Overated?
« Reply #48 on: December 26, 2009, 12:55:58 PM »
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Are we on the same page on what's "pop"? How can you say A Day in the Life, Strawberry Fields, Eleanor Rigby are pop?

To me, it's putting most of their songs on the same page as Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, etc, which is extremely disrespectful and unbelievably ignorant. Sorry.

Why do you consider the label 'Pop' is inferior to 'Rock'?

I, for one, am on the same page as Shockdocta and think most Beatles songs sound popish.

i never said Pop is bad though, but songs of theirs do sound a little more Popish, compare Eleanor Rigby to rock songs at the time from say..the Rolling Stones

Exactly.  The most perfect pop song of all 'Knowing Me, Knowing You' is held in equal esteem by me as say 'You Really Got Me'.

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Re: Are The Beatles Overated?
« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2009, 01:18:03 PM »
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Are we on the same page on what's "pop"? How can you say A Day in the Life, Strawberry Fields, Eleanor Rigby are pop?

To me, it's putting most of their songs on the same page as Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, etc, which is extremely disrespectful and unbelievably ignorant. Sorry.

Why do you consider the label 'Pop' is inferior to 'Rock'?

I, for one, am on the same page as Shockdocta and think most Beatles songs sound popish.

i never said Pop is bad though, but songs of theirs do sound a little more Popish, compare Eleanor Rigby to rock songs at the time from say..the Rolling Stones

Exactly.  The most perfect pop song of all 'Knowing Me, Knowing You' is held in equal esteem by me as say 'You Really Got Me'.

"Eleanor Rigby" isn't exactly a pop song...

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Re: Are The Beatles Overated?
« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2009, 01:20:19 PM »
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Are we on the same page on what's "pop"? How can you say A Day in the Life, Strawberry Fields, Eleanor Rigby are pop?

To me, it's putting most of their songs on the same page as Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, etc, which is extremely disrespectful and unbelievably ignorant. Sorry.

Why do you consider the label 'Pop' is inferior to 'Rock'?

I, for one, am on the same page as Shockdocta and think most Beatles songs sound popish.

i never said Pop is bad though, but songs of theirs do sound a little more Popish, compare Eleanor Rigby to rock songs at the time from say..the Rolling Stones

Exactly.  The most perfect pop song of all 'Knowing Me, Knowing You' is held in equal esteem by me as say 'You Really Got Me'.

"Eleanor Rigby" isn't exactly a pop song...

Pop + Chamber music. ;D

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Re: Are The Beatles Overated?
« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2009, 03:59:39 PM »
I know some people that claim The Beatles as the greatest yet never listen to their music.  ???

I'd say they're overrated in the sense that they're just the "go-to" band when asked who the greatest band is.

I don't think they're the best, but I do realize what they've done for music in general.

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Re: Are The Beatles Overated?
« Reply #52 on: December 26, 2009, 06:52:17 PM »
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I know some people that claim The Beatles as the greatest yet never listen to their music.  ???

I'd say they're overrated in the sense that they're just the "go-to" band when asked who the greatest band is.

I don't think they're the best, but I do realize what they've done for music in general.

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Re: Are The Beatles Overated?
« Reply #53 on: December 26, 2009, 06:53:39 PM »
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I know some people that claim The Beatles as the greatest yet never listen to their music.  ???

I'd say they're overrated in the sense that they're just the "go-to" band when asked who the greatest band is.

I don't think they're the best, but I do realize what they've done for music in general.
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Re: Are The Beatles Overated?
« Reply #54 on: December 26, 2009, 06:56:12 PM »
So lets say a guy came up to me and played A Day in the Life, Help, I wanna hold your hand, Let it be, and all you need is love, id say thats pretty good, whos it by and they said it was by the Greatest band of all time, i wouldnt agree, so i dont think there the best, but top 25

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Re: Are The Beatles Overated?
« Reply #55 on: December 26, 2009, 07:05:23 PM »
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Eleanor Rigby
Something
Penny Lane
Let It Be
Strawberry Fields Forever
A Day In The Life
All You Need Is Love
Here Comes The Sun
Can't Buy Me Love
The Long And Winding Road
Nowhere Man
Yesterday
Here, There, Everywhere
Blackbird
She Loves You
Norwegian Wood
Hello, Goodbye
Hey Jude

I could go on.... all Pop songs.

Not so laughable.

If those are all Pop songs, then a lot of the Stones output would be considered Pop as well

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Those are just a few I can think of off the top of my head. All those songs are great songs, and I'm a big fan of the Rolling Stones, but I think it's bulls**t to say that "The Beatles were just pop, and the Stones were all rock", or "The Beatles weren't guitar driven, while the Stones were". These two bands weren't "just" anything; they delved into countless different sounds and genres, and both bands have songs that are more pop oriented, and songs that  really rock hard.

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Re: Are The Beatles Overated?
« Reply #56 on: December 26, 2009, 07:07:16 PM »
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Helter Skelter is just a forced attempt by Macca to write a rock tune, no doubt influenced by Led Zep.


No doubt; especially since the White Album recording sessions started almost a year before Led Zeppelin's debut came out

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« Reply #57 on: December 26, 2009, 07:08:24 PM »
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Helter Skelter is just a forced attempt by Macca to write a rock tune, no doubt influenced by Led Zep.


No doubt; especially since the White Album recording sessions started almost a year before Led Zeppelin's debut came out

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Eleanor Rigby
Something
Penny Lane
Let It Be
Strawberry Fields Forever
A Day In The Life
All You Need Is Love
Here Comes The Sun
Can't Buy Me Love
The Long And Winding Road
Nowhere Man
Yesterday
Here, There, Everywhere
Blackbird
She Loves You
Norwegian Wood
Hello, Goodbye
Hey Jude

I could go on.... all Pop songs.

Not so laughable.

If those are all Pop songs, then a lot of the Stones output would be considered Pop as well

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Those are just a few I can think of off the top of my head. All those songs are great songs, and I'm a big fan of the Rolling Stones, but I think it's bulls**t to say that "The Beatles were just pop, and the Stones were all rock", or "The Beatles weren't guitar driven, while the Stones were". These two bands weren't "just" anything; they delved into countless different sounds and genres, and both bands have songs that are more pop oriented, and songs that  really rock hard.


I agree RS has put out pop songs (Ruby Tuesday, Wild Horses, You cant always get..)  but there majority is rock

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Re: Are The Beatles Overated?
« Reply #58 on: December 26, 2009, 07:22:22 PM »
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Eleanor Rigby
Something
Penny Lane
Let It Be
Strawberry Fields Forever
A Day In The Life
All You Need Is Love
Here Comes The Sun
Can't Buy Me Love
The Long And Winding Road
Nowhere Man
Yesterday
Here, There, Everywhere
Blackbird
She Loves You
Norwegian Wood
Hello, Goodbye
Hey Jude

I could go on.... all Pop songs.

Not so laughable.

If those are all Pop songs, then a lot of the Stones output would be considered Pop as well

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Those are just a few I can think of off the top of my head. All those songs are great songs, and I'm a big fan of the Rolling Stones, but I think it's bulls**t to say that "The Beatles were just pop, and the Stones were all rock", or "The Beatles weren't guitar driven, while the Stones were". These two bands weren't "just" anything; they delved into countless different sounds and genres, and both bands have songs that are more pop oriented, and songs that  really rock hard.

Do you have an inferiority complex with The Beatles or something.  Sure the Stones made some pop songs, rhythm & Blues, psychedelic songs, even raggae, disco and funk infused songs.  But generally speaking the Stones made better rock songs and the Beatles made better pop songs like the ones I listed above.  I've said it before and so I'll say it again I don't regard 'rock' as being superior to 'pop'.  If you wish to label the Beatles a rock band and their best songs rock songs then you can.  I consider most of what I believe to be the Beatles best songs as pop songs.  On the other hand I think of 'Jumpin' Jack Flash', for example, as a rock song.

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Re: Are The Beatles Overated?
« Reply #59 on: December 26, 2009, 07:32:03 PM »
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Helter Skelter is just a forced attempt by Macca to write a rock tune, no doubt influenced by Led Zep.


No doubt; especially since the White Album recording sessions started almost a year before Led Zeppelin's debut came out

I rather think that Paul McCartney was aware of the changing musical trends going on around him and the heavier rock sounds of the newly formed Led Zeppelin and others and attempted to incorporate that into the Beatles sound when they composed The Beatles album.