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Offline soapit

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would getting rid of live loops improve the experience
« on: January 06, 2010, 11:04:11 PM »
would anyone prefer if they got rid of the hard disks and just took it organic. theres something to be said for totally live music without backing tracks and it might force them to come up with interesting variations on songs to get them to work live.

i was just watching the band commentary on a queen dvd the other day and they were saying how much people rely on hdd's and what a shame it was. they didnt mention any names.

also is anyone interested in this guy whoplays the keyboards getting on stage. i guess i just like to see where all the sounds are coming from so i know how much they're cheating by.



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Re: would getting rid of live loops improve the experience
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2010, 06:49:23 AM »
No.

I'm not a luddite.

If you want to keep it real, get them to hand back the effects pedals as well.

And the autocue.

Edge would be lost without his Big Muff EchoResonator 6000.

Bono would be singing about his Vietnam mother / sisters brother/ streets of broken dreams.

It'd be ACE.

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Re: would getting rid of live loops improve the experience
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2010, 08:44:04 AM »
A more fully augmented live band could get away with it but U2 are only a 3 piece band and so if they got rid of the loops and other effects they would be left with a sparse live sound indeed.

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Re: would getting rid of live loops improve the experience
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2010, 03:51:02 PM »
i wasnt meaning get rid of the effects on guitar vocal etc, i guess i see that as sound which is still created by the band even tho its modified by technology.

i meant these other parts which get played to "complement" what the band are doing. i woudnt mind a bit of an intro like in bad say but when its going throughout the whole song you're not really seeing a truly live show. i just dont want to get to the stage where we got bono lip synching or edge adding extra guitar from tape.

i dont think it would sound too sparse, i dont think they would have used hard disks in their early days (rattle and hum movie) plus other bands do it all the time. they might just need to think things through a bit more.


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Re: would getting rid of live loops improve the experience
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2010, 04:51:03 PM »
no because they would not be able to play their later pieces. U2's music and their technology have evolved over the years, so it's part of the live experience. They are not in danger of being Milli Vanilli anytime soon

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Re: would getting rid of live loops improve the experience
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2010, 05:39:43 PM »
in the old days they used sequencers, now they used much the same, it's no different and I don't see why they should stop.

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Re: would getting rid of live loops improve the experience
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2010, 10:57:33 PM »
U2 was never really a purely 'live' band like many rock bands.  their sound just isn't like that.  edge's effects make his style, and make the music.  i could never imagine a song like Bad without that ethereal backing loop at the beginning!

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Re: would getting rid of live loops improve the experience
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2010, 07:51:52 AM »
I remember reading that they took out a lot of backing tracks during the Vertigo tour.  For example, if you compare the album All Because of You to the live version, you'll hear that the live version is missing the backing guitar when The Edge solos.  I don't think that their use of backing tracks is as pervasive as everyone thinks...don't forget they've got Terry Lawless under the stage playing pianos and synths, so that's not a backing track either.

btw that's got to be the most thankless job ever.  "yeah I play with U2...under the stage." 

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Re: would getting rid of live loops improve the experience
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2010, 07:57:02 AM »
At least he got an occasional shout-out to "Terry Lawless in the Underworld."  And we got to see his hands on the videoscreen.

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Re: would getting rid of live loops improve the experience
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2010, 10:23:56 AM »
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btw that's got to be the most thankless job ever.  "yeah I play with U2...under the stage." 

the most thankless job had to be the guy who played guitar for Korn from behind the amps on that first tour after Head left.

then again, that's the only way I'd do that gig.

#@!

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Re: would getting rid of live loops improve the experience
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2010, 02:05:10 PM »
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btw that's got to be the most thankless job ever.  "yeah I play with U2...under the stage." 

the most thankless job had to be the guy who played guitar for Korn from behind the amps on that first tour after Head left.

then again, that's the only way I'd do that gig.

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Seriously? "Yeah, you get to play with us, but only if no one sees you." Wow.

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Re: would getting rid of live loops improve the experience
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2010, 11:22:04 AM »
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I remember reading that they took out a lot of backing tracks during the Vertigo tour.  For example, if you compare the album All Because of You to the live version, you'll hear that the live version is missing the backing guitar when The Edge solos.  I don't think that their use of backing tracks is as pervasive as everyone thinks...don't forget they've got Terry Lawless under the stage playing pianos and synths, so that's not a backing track either.

btw that's got to be the most thankless job ever.  "yeah I play with U2...under the stage." 

Well, he does get thanked in Unknown Caller basically every time, and now he appears on-screen as well!  :D

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Re: would getting rid of live loops improve the experience
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2010, 06:14:56 AM »
why don't they just let everyone else playing (backup guitarist, keyboardist, sound effect guy...french horn player!) up on stage with them. I don't think the audience would mind at all that U2 was playing with others. U2 would still play the lead for everything, and they could be up front still

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Re: would getting rid of live loops improve the experience
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2010, 04:05:37 PM »
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why don't they just let everyone else playing (backup guitarist, keyboardist, sound effect guy...french horn player!) up on stage with them. I don't think the audience would mind at all that U2 was playing with others. U2 would still play the lead for everything, and they could be up front still

yeah i'd be up for that.  would add to the theatre. however i think alot of those parts arent played live even behind the scenes (french horn surely) it'd be a recording.

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Re: would getting rid of live loops improve the experience
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2010, 06:07:34 AM »
I know... when ever I am watching concert videos, and I see angel of Harlem or Sometimes you can't make it on your own, and the horn parts kick in, I just cringe because I know they are fake and most everyone in the crowd does to, which I think detracts from the concert. Just get rid of them!