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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2009, 10:44:50 AM »
Anyone noticed that in Swallowed In the Sea that Edge is playing  :o?


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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2009, 11:38:59 AM »
I HATE COLDPLAY!!
I really don't know why people compare U2 and Coldplay!
And U2 and Coldplay DON'T sound familliar!!
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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2009, 12:38:50 PM »
I take U2, and I suspect most willÖ This is a U2 forum after all.

I donít hate Coldplay, though, but I do disagree with a lot of evidence that suggests Coldplay is the new U2 and certain reasons why.

First off, I am not sure Coldplay can be directly compared to U2 just as U2 really canít be directly compared to the Beatles.  All three bands have their unique sounds and all three have had their influences and inspirations.  I wonít discount that Coldplay is big now, perhaps the biggest band at the moment, but currently, they have not shown anywhere near the diversity that U2 or the Beatles (or any of the other greats of the past) have shown over time. 

For those that cite awards and the possibility that Coldplay will win a few this year; Iím not sure how much awards really mean.  Even if Coldplay wins, this will be their first really big win.  U2 have won the major awards a couple of times each and have been even nominated a couple more times on top of that.  Not many artists can have that on their resume.  As a counter, I have to wonder about the Grammyís when an album like HTDAAB wins best album and Achtung Baby doesnít.  Does that help the case for Coldplay?  I think not.  Last, if one really looks at the Grammyís as qualification for success, Paul Simon would have most beat.

There is definitely a time factor.  All bands lose relevancy with modern audiences.  Being the biggest band at the current time though does not really put one at an equal with the previous biggest band, only with the band at that moment.  U2 may be bigger than the Beatles at this moment, but it will be almost impossible for anyone to top what they accomplished over their career.  Coldplay may be bigger than U2 at this moment but they havenít topped U2 at their biggest (late 80ís and 90ís) nor must we discount that U2 may likely equal what Coldplay did last year (and I really donít think they did that much).

Coldplay are a great band, and with A Rush of Blood to the Head, I was very impressed.  The sound was unique to me (after not caring for what I hear with Parachutes).  I still like the second album, but with X&Y, I felt like they were kind of repeating themselves.  It was still a good album and I enjoy listening to it, but it didnít stand out.  Viva La Vida really did not make the progress that others have hinted at.  There sound wasnít far from what Eno gave them to begin with, and I just havenít gotten into it like I did the previous albums. 

There are so many other bands out there that are poised to be the biggest thing and will probably surpass Coldplay if not U2.  The White Stripes or more specifically Jack White is one that is constantly evolving and improving.  Muse is always great and shows some diversity across their sound.  The Killers definitely have the flair like U2 do for the show.  There is a lot out there, and I really think that Coldplayís time at the top if it comes will be limited.  They will be just too stagnant for the evolving music world.

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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2009, 12:55:25 PM »
All very good points, thank you.

What made me compare Coldplay to U2 when I first saw them live is that they are one of the very, very few UPLIFTING bands. This is not something you see very often because most music fans think it's a waste of time.

Remember when Bob Dylan replied to Bono, who had just Bob's song would be eternal : "Some of yours will be eternal too but one will be able to sing them."

This is very true because, IMO Bono is the only one who can do what he does, for better or worse. I mean, who else could sing "In the name of love" without sounding ridiculous ?

Coldplay did that in their own way. A little. But their songrwriting range is very narrow & flat compared to U2's which is all about contrasting moods : think of Bullet the blue sky/Running to stand still for instance.

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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2009, 01:18:23 PM »
The thing about Coldplay for me personally is that once i've heard one of their albums 4 or 5 times- thats it- I know the songs off by heart.
They don't seem to have any hidden layers to their music. Its all to clean n clinical.
Don't get me wrong- I like Coldplay (own 4 of their albums) and they've done some great stuff -Yellow,Scientist,The Message.

Its just that their music doesn't get me going back to it much.

I can put a U2 album on and I can still find something new to hear in their music everytime.


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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2009, 01:25:51 PM »
U2 definately wins by a long shot.
But Coldplay definately is a good band
But U2's just....better :]
They have more power in their music

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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLDPLAY thread
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2009, 01:37:38 PM »
I like Coldplay a lot, but they don't hold a candle to U2. Viva La Vida is a great album, but let's see what else they've done 10 years from now.

On this note, does the line from Violet Hill "It was a long and dark December, when the banks became cathedrals" sound familiar to anyone?

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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2009, 02:05:12 PM »
But the real test of the song is how the younger crowd who have never heard of U2 and don't realise what a megagroup they are, respond to the music. This is the real market and the reason ColdPlay have been so successfull is that they have won the younger crowd over and been able to compete with Beyonnce and Rihanna and The Killers and King of Leon and Lavender Diamond and any number of rap artists who look exactly the same.

The new "good" music is more a mind-set than a genre. It usually employs acoustic instruments, though it's as likely to have roots in progressive rock, free jazz or Brazilian pop as in Appalachian ballads. The musicians often conjure the '60s in grooming and countercultural/utopian/back-to-the-land vibe. And with a tendency toward art that's both homespun and solipsistic, and that shows little interest in music industry trappings, they can seem less interested in Making It Big than in keeping it small.

"that whole psychedelic thing of letting your mind go where it will."


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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2009, 02:26:19 PM »
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I'm guessing you are all going to murderfy me because I'm seeing them in Wembley  :P

Well now you've invented the word "murderfy" I'm showing some mercy.

And no, not "Mercy". Just mercy.

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« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2009, 02:48:20 PM »
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Chris Martin compares Coldplay to U2. The Coldplay frontman, whose new album 'Viva La Vida or Death and All His Friends' is released this week, looks to the Irish rockers as a measure of success.

He said: "U2 once said they were reapplying for the job as the best band in the world. On 'Viva La Vida...' we feel like we're just reapplying to be a band again."

"I always view our albums in terms of U2 albums. 'Viva La Vida' is our 'Unforgettable Fire' in that it's less straightforward, more oblique. It's about sex and death and love and fear and travel and illness. There's light and there's dark."

Despite the critical acclaim the band have received, the 'Violet Hill' singer doesn't think Coldplay are the best band in the world.

Chris added: "The best bands in the world today are probably Arcade Fire and Sigur Ros. I think Coldplay is only the seventh best band in the world."

Earlier this week, Chris revealed he has been dreaming about U2 frontman Bono. He said: "I always dream about other musicians. And with U2 or Radiohead it's always, 'Hey, how are you doing?' And they are never interested in hanging out with us. It's a permanent feeling of being at school and the bigger boys don't want to play with you."


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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2009, 03:55:40 PM »
I think Radiohead's better than both personally.

But this is the biggest band in the world argument and I side with U2.

Although I'm still a fan of Coldplay's music (regardless of how derivative they can be) , but I will say that Viva La Vida was a much much better song than Get On Your Boots.

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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2009, 04:40:19 PM »
Radiohead are so passe.

Where is their commercialism?

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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2009, 04:46:28 PM »
I think Coldplay has four okay songs. Coldplay will never be as good as or as big as U2. I also think that Chris Martin wishes he could be Bono. I don't blame him. I wish I could be Bono (or the Edge). If you watch the iTunes commercial for Viva La Vida Chris Martin was doing the whole jacket thing that Bono did back in 2000. I also think that most of Coldplay's songs sound kinda the same. If you like Coldplay that's fine with me. This is just my opinion. They will never have a place in my heart like U2 does but if you like Coldplay that's fine with me.

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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2009, 05:25:51 PM »
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Radiohead are so passe.

Where is their commercialism?

2 x you, 1 x tee, 1 x eff.

Whilst Radiohead are being thrown into the mix, though, I've finally found Kid 17, of which You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login works eerily well, bar the odd strange phase issue (inevitable, I guess).

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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2009, 07:26:44 PM »
I agree with most of you.  Coldplay is a very good band, and I enjoy their music very much.  My favorite album by far is Viva la Vida, I think it is a very strong album.  Before each album comes out, I am hoping with all my hope, that they just blow my mind.  I believe that their albums are slowly getting better, but they do not have that "thing' yet.  I want them to be the next U2, I really do.  But so far they just don't have that "thing".  Someone said in an earlier post they lack innovation, and I think that nails it right on the head.  They are not trying to push the envelope and blow people away yet.  I know, they are only four albums in, and I will wait it out with them. :)