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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #270 on: February 11, 2009, 04:46:48 PM »
Gag away. It may be nonsensical to you but it the state of modern music. There is a number of bands which are all auditioning for the role of biggest band in the world at the moment. It is interesting that u2 have done it by completing a totally Indie style of album with no singles. Why was Get On Ya Boots the first single? Because the other songs are not your classic single type of songs. U2 are either going to re-invent rock and roll again to give it an operatic like feel or their fans are going to go screaming What have you done!”

In some ways the whole idea of this thread is that ColdPlay have become what u2 used to be and U2 have moved somewhere else. Somewhere which is unsafe. Somewhere that will have a massive effect on the Rock R Roll universe.

We are not sure where that is but from the first live Grammys return, Ms Cyprus has been voted a better live performance than U2. There may be complications to that, I know but to even think that shows how risqué U2 have gone. Like Blade Runner or anything futuristic, no doubt at first they will be canned. It might only be retrospectively that NLOTH is loved.

Meanwhile bands like The Frey and The Killers and Kings of Leon have not only grown huge roots in the rock n roll community especially with the younger generation but now they are expressing themselves with total confidence as the leaders when it comes to the direction that music is taking. All I am suggesting is that there is a new world order. Not the same as the last time u2 put out an album when the industry was screaming for anything. Now there are new and fresh bands out there, with new and fresh sounds. The music industry that U2 finds itself trying to re-enter has re-invented itself.

Meanwhile ColdPlay will continue to chug away, in the space that U2 left in 2001. And if we are to believe the reviews and NLOTH is all experimental then U2 don’t want that space back and are looking for something else. Something that is either genius or it is mad. There is a fine line between the two.

The space ColdPlay now occupy is the kings of middle of the road easy listening pop and rock which the record buying public love. And the record buying public are the ones who drive everything.

U2 have certainly made a big decision to go all experimental.

The results will be fascinating.


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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #271 on: February 11, 2009, 05:21:55 PM »
whatever. coldplay are not occupying U2's space at all. They'd have to 1st make music that actually says something. and selling a lot of records doesn't = good music. We see crap float to the top all the time on the music charts. U2 have always been an unusual band. Even their singles are unusual in that they generally are not the typical radio song. Kings of Leon are the only decent new-ish band you mentioned. They can play their instruments pretty well. In case you can't find the coldplay forum...let me show you the door link: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

I'm sure you'll find plenty of folks who will agree with everything you say over there.  ::)

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« Reply #272 on: February 11, 2009, 05:38:07 PM »
You miss the point of existence. It is all about commercialism. That is why Bono says, 2 bad albums and you are out. But U2 must be so sick and bored of producing the grand anthem music. I mean look at bands like Bon Jovi etc. Sooner or later three cords and the truth sounds like the next song you are playing. U2 are writing an album for themselves and for this they have to be totally commended and it is hoped by everyone especially me that is an epic masterpiece of the highest order.

But it is a risky strategy.

When people on this site are calling ColdPlay boring, they are saying that they occupy a place in the rock n roll spectrum that is reasonably melancholy and reasonably safe. U2 occuped this space over their last two albums with huge success on the back of a brilliant single Bueatiful Day. But now with NLOTH, they are really doing a follow up to POP.

They tried something different with POP and everyone narked up and said how they just wanted stadium music from U2. Well U2 have given you punters what you want for their last two albums. Now they are doing something, again, like POP for themselves. I wish them luck.

ColdPlay will continue to occupy that middle of the road ground now U2 have gone in another direction. There will be those people who jump off the U2 bandwagon when NLOTH comes out and is different. These people will be looking for a middle of the road juggernaut like ColdPlay to hook their musical tastes too.

Me, I like U2 best when they experiment. They are at their most exciting when they gloriously fail like RandH and POP. I like my music to have a crack in it where it is obvious it is not Plastic Bertrand remixes.

So in that type of universe. U2 and ColdPlay music actually complement each other. U2 pushing the envelope and ColdPlay working under the constraints of not being as talented as U2.

If U2 fail too much on NLOTH they will look back at the space that ColdPlay will occupy longingly. I hope this doesn’t happen. I want U2 to be out there!!!

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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #273 on: February 11, 2009, 05:44:23 PM »
rubbish. the point of existence is to CREATE (creation)....not commercialism.

And Bono doesn't necessarily mean 2 commercially crap albums. He's really talking about quality.

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« Reply #274 on: February 11, 2009, 06:04:48 PM »
You are not thinking now. You are in a world where all you want to do is hate. Come back to the good side of the force, Darth Vader. Bono does mean that they have to get both critical and commercial success. A combination of both. But sometimes they are actually mutually exclusive. Sometimes the punters don’t want you to do something different. They want you to put out the same stuff you have put out before. Look at the reviews we have read on NLOTH. There are a multitude of opinions and it is clear that it is a totally different direction from ATYLB and Bomb. Plenty of punters are not going to want this. Hence the rise of ColdPlay who pretty much put out u2 lite albums all the time staying in the sphere of what certain people with limited vision, think U2 should stay.

The existence of ColdPlay, while it might be grotesque to you and make you sick. Also allows U2 to stretch themselves and try to achieve music genius because there is a band that are there to  fill up the space that their more limited fans want their music.

Thisi is why ColdPlay are hugely important in the growth of U2.

When U2 tried to take their fans in a different direction before on POP. The fans were not as prepared to go with them on the musical journey. Because there was no one there to fill the musical void of middle of the road, three chords and the truth music. Now there is, ColdPlay.

For this we should be eternally grateful.

ColdPlay’s existence helps U2 fulfil its destiny.

For this I say, thank you Chris Martin.

Thank you for allowing U2 to be, all they can be.

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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #275 on: February 11, 2009, 08:37:58 PM »
there's more to life than commercialism and being a consumer. but whatever works for you. good luck!  :D

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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #276 on: February 11, 2009, 09:03:15 PM »
In Summary, it is not U2 Vs. COLPLAY

It is U2 and COLDPLAY Vs. The World.

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« Reply #277 on: February 11, 2009, 09:13:06 PM »
whatever helps you sleep at night sister ::) blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah!

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« Reply #278 on: February 11, 2009, 09:19:58 PM »
Hahahhahahahahaha.

You can slag them off all you want to. It seems to be an easy sport for the simple minded.

But without ColdPlay, there would be no No Line on the Horizon.

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Re: The official U2 Vs. COLPLAY thread
« Reply #279 on: February 11, 2009, 09:22:27 PM »
I thread that was bound to go nowhere has reached its destination.

Goodnight everyone.