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Re: Has Bono lost the plot lyrically?
« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2009, 11:22:26 AM »
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just b/c people dont understand lyrics does not make them bad

agreed,
there is that thing called poetry, and lines like 'Freedom has a scent like the top of a newborn baby's head' are some kind of poetry. In my opinion poetry is a ability to look deeper and feel in a different way and when you think about it that way, you can realise that sometimes freedom can indeed smell, and sometimes that smell can be like a top of a newborn baby's head.

yep. freedom definitely has a smell. And if it's like the smell of a Baby's head, then what we've smelled over the past 8 years has been a soiled rank diaper. And that smell is still wafting through: It was just announced that the Bush Administration OVERPAID 'FOR THE BAILOUT' BY $78 BILLION. $40 MILLION OF THAT WENT TO AIG!! WTF!!!!!The level of corruption is disgusting. We've been lied to so many times.  >:(

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Re: Has Bono lost the plot lyrically?
« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2009, 12:33:10 PM »
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I was listening to 'Mercy' on youtube and have come to the conclusion Bono has become one of the worst lyricists in popular music:

'I know Im weed killer, honey, and youre sugar
If youre the prosecution I get away with murder
If you were ice, Im water
And with your telescope I can see further
Were binary code, a one and a zero'

Or try

'I want the lot of what you got
And I want nothing that you're not'

from Original of the Species.

And this is from a man who can write beautiful words like:

'And I could never take a chance
Of losing love to find romance
In the mysterious distance between a man and a woman

For love and faith and sex and fear
And all the things that keep us here
In the mysterious distance between a man and a woman'



I think those Mercy lyrics are some of his best in ages.  I mean, "We're binary code:  a one and a zero.  You wanted violins and you got Nero," that's just brilliant.  OOTS has some simple lyrics in places but when it gets it right, it knocks it out of the park. 
Do I think Bono's lyrics have changed?  Yeah.  I think he writes about himself too much, as opposed to what he observes in the world around him.  His lyrics aren't meant to inspire his life so much as reflect his life.  I do think this lessens their effect a bit.  However, I'm hard pressed to think of a current lyricist who can compare to him for the sheer romance, intensity, and poetry of a lot of what he does.

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Re: Has Bono lost the plot lyrically?
« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2009, 03:05:54 PM »
Definitely agree. Violins & Nero Line is great. And, whether you love his lyrics or cringe at spots...he gets your attention! I can't really think of too many singers that get people to really tune in these days like Bono. Perhaps that's why the H8ters write just as much about Bono as U2 fans. That level of interest sometimes means that something is worth talking about.

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Re: Has Bono lost the plot lyrically?
« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2009, 03:14:12 PM »
Still not as ad as "a mole, digging in a hole, digging up my soul..."

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Re: Has Bono lost the plot lyrically?
« Reply #49 on: February 06, 2009, 04:41:03 PM »
it's the Ben Harper Syndrome of playing on opposites ... which is cliche and an easy way out. Bono can do better.

Don't get me wrong-- I LOVE THE SONG. Really. But there is something 'demo' about some of the lyrics.

Still, why they wouldn't refine the song and release it kills me.

At least we have the demo.

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Re: Has Bono lost the plot lyrically?
« Reply #50 on: February 07, 2009, 01:38:17 AM »
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And let's not forget Martin Luther King wasn't shot (from 'Pride')

'early morning, April 4th'

more

'late aftrenoon, April 4th'


don't you know the lyrics don't mean sh*t its all about the drums  ;D

No, you're ALL wrong!! It'S A MUSICAL JOURNEY!!!  :-*

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Re: Has Bono lost the plot lyrically?
« Reply #51 on: February 07, 2009, 03:31:31 AM »

If you can't even get some basic historical facts right...

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Re: Has Bono lost the plot lyrically?
« Reply #52 on: February 07, 2009, 06:52:36 AM »
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there will always be Bono lyrical clunkers even on the greatest of albums ("your salt water kisses" ????wtf????)

However, the last album to have consistently great lyrics with minimal clunkers was Pop.




salt water kisses could refer to tears, but i read in a book about the meanings behind U2's lyrics its means something else salty that i don't want to post.

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Re: Has Bono lost the plot lyrically?
« Reply #53 on: February 07, 2009, 09:36:35 AM »
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there will always be Bono lyrical clunkers even on the greatest of albums ("your salt water kisses" ????wtf????)

However, the last album to have consistently great lyrics with minimal clunkers was Pop.




salt water kisses could refer to tears, but i read in a book about the meanings behind U2's lyrics its means something else salty that i don't want to post.

yeah i read that theory too........it was pretty lame........


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Re: Has Bono lost the plot lyrically?
« Reply #54 on: February 07, 2009, 11:53:29 AM »
Achtung Baby was full of double entendres. and one of the themes was a mixing of spirituality and sexuality. "Did I disappoint you
Or leave a bad taste in your mouth?" - umm..not that this line in particular is an example of spirituality, lol.   :P

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Re: Has Bono lost the plot lyrically?
« Reply #55 on: February 07, 2009, 12:28:22 PM »

I presume you're referring to oral s*x. Can I write the 's' word on here?

I don't think 'did i leave a bad taste in your mouth' is anything to do with it...

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Re: Has Bono lost the plot lyrically?
« Reply #56 on: February 07, 2009, 12:39:49 PM »
To go back to the "Killers have bad lyrics" idea, how bout:

"Are we human, or are we dancer?"

Even if it HAD correct grammar, that is a horrible lyric. Worse than "Grace, its a name for a girl". At least that one makes sense!

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Re: Has Bono lost the plot lyrically?
« Reply #57 on: February 07, 2009, 12:55:32 PM »
Achtung Baby was full of references to oral sex. 

"Figure of 8, 6 and 9 again"
"Surrounding me, going down on me"
As mentioned above, "Did I disappoint you, leave a bad taste in your mouth"
"You can swallow or you can spit"
"You better learn how to kneel, on your knees, boy"

As Bono has said, 69 is the most equal sexual position.


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Re: Has Bono lost the plot lyrically?
« Reply #58 on: February 07, 2009, 01:54:52 PM »
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Achtung Baby was full of references to oral sex. 

"Figure of 8, 6 and 9 again"
"Surrounding me, going down on me"
As mentioned above, "Did I disappoint you, leave a bad taste in your mouth"
"You can swallow or you can spit"
"You better learn how to kneel, on your knees, boy"

As Bono has said, 69 is the most equal sexual position.


exactly! Well laid out! I was just trying to explain that there were several themes on this album and a lot of word play. It had me going "Did he just say...umm does he really mean this?". It kind of creeps into your conscious. It's a very suggestive album. And when the Tour came out their was a lot of emphasis on words and phrases on those screens. We absorbed some things that we didn't initially realize because they were flashing so quickly. I remember the big controversy on those screens too....because U2 claimed they were putting up words at random and not really controlling what words were combined, and yet one of the sentences displayed read "Bomb Japan Now" and that obviously was a VERY sensitive thing for our friends in Japan.  :-\


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Re: Has Bono lost the plot lyrically?
« Reply #59 on: February 07, 2009, 01:57:46 PM »
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I presume you're referring to oral s*x. Can I write the 's' word on here?

I don't think 'did i leave a bad taste in your mouth' is anything to do with it...

'sex' isn't a bad word. it's how you got here  ;)